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		<title>By: Stacy Morse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacy Morse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wolfi</title>
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		<dc:creator>wolfi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you checked this one out? Keep up the good work!!</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who provides information to women investors, I always include the ethical considerations involved in companies. I think Enron, etc. showed that it is wise financially to do so. So there are some serious ethical considerations in this Chinese security company, which were covered in an article in the New York Times today:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;China&#039;s Hot Stock: Orwell Inc.&lt;br/&gt;By Harold Meyerson&lt;br/&gt;Wednesday, September 19, 2007; Page A23&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The American economy may be teetering on the brink of a recession, but there&#039;s an industry our hedge fund gurus believe has an almost limitless future: the Chinese police state.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In a stunning report in the New York Times last week, correspondent Keith Bradsher documented the rise of China&#039;s electronic surveillance industry, whose leading companies have incorporated themselves in the United States and obtained the lion&#039;s share of their capital from U.S. hedge funds. Though ostensibly private, these companies are a for-profit adjunct of the Chinese government.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Li Runsen, technology director of the government&#039;s ministry of public security and the top cop policing China&#039;s Internet usage against the occasional appearance of a dangerous idea, now also moonlights as a director of China Security and Surveillance Technology, a company soon to be listed on the New York Stock Exchange.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;CSST, according to Terence Yap, its chief financial officer, produces security cameras and computer software that can monitor crosswalks -- to ensure that demonstrations aren&#039;t forming -- and cross-check the faces of Internet cafe users against photos of known troublemakers. Thus will China protect itself against potential terrorists.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;China isn&#039;t really prey to terrorists. It is, however, subject to strikes of workers who don&#039;t get paid; to revolts over deadly environmental conditions; to religious activists who worship gods other than mammon and the state (the two that are officially sanctioned); to Web surfers enamored of a free exchange of ideas; to Tibetans seeking autonomy; and maybe, someday, to another outburst of Tiananmen Square-like, pro-democracy agitation.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;An authoritarian government can never be sure how many of its citizens would relish its demise, which means the Chinese Communist Party has 1.3 billion potential targets for surveillance. Bradsher reports that 660 Chinese cities have begun installing high-tech surveillance systems. By one estimate, high-end surveillance will expand from a $500 million industry in 2003 to a $43 billion industry by 2010.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;These numbers have drawn Wall Street&#039;s notice. CSST has received $110 million in convertible loans from the Citadel Group, a Chicago-based hedge fund, which it has used to buy up smaller Chinese surveillance companies. Some Wall Street executives have even defended their investments by equating the Chinese surveillance system with the surveillance cameras of London and New York.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To be sure, leading American companies have a long and sordid record of investing in totalitarian states, including Hitler&#039;s Germany, Stalin&#039;s Russia and axis-of-evil Iran (hello, Halliburton). But, distinguish as we must among the various levels of hell, at least those American companies did not invest in the Gestapo, the Stasi, the KGB, the Revolutionary Guard. Maybe that was only because it was hard to turn a buck on the Stasi. Once China turned communist repression into an investment opportunity, however, capitalism responded as capitalism is supposed to respond: It wanted in. There are mega-bucks to be made, the hedge funds concluded, in hedging against democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who provides information to women investors, I always include the ethical considerations involved in companies. I think Enron, etc. showed that it is wise financially to do so. So there are some serious ethical considerations in this Chinese security company, which were covered in an article in the New York Times today:</p>
<p>China&#8217;s Hot Stock: Orwell Inc.<br />By Harold Meyerson<br />Wednesday, September 19, 2007; Page A23</p>
<p>The American economy may be teetering on the brink of a recession, but there&#8217;s an industry our hedge fund gurus believe has an almost limitless future: the Chinese police state.</p>
<p>In a stunning report in the New York Times last week, correspondent Keith Bradsher documented the rise of China&#8217;s electronic surveillance industry, whose leading companies have incorporated themselves in the United States and obtained the lion&#8217;s share of their capital from U.S. hedge funds. Though ostensibly private, these companies are a for-profit adjunct of the Chinese government.</p>
<p>Li Runsen, technology director of the government&#8217;s ministry of public security and the top cop policing China&#8217;s Internet usage against the occasional appearance of a dangerous idea, now also moonlights as a director of China Security and Surveillance Technology, a company soon to be listed on the New York Stock Exchange.</p>
<p>CSST, according to Terence Yap, its chief financial officer, produces security cameras and computer software that can monitor crosswalks &#8212; to ensure that demonstrations aren&#8217;t forming &#8212; and cross-check the faces of Internet cafe users against photos of known troublemakers. Thus will China protect itself against potential terrorists.</p>
<p>China isn&#8217;t really prey to terrorists. It is, however, subject to strikes of workers who don&#8217;t get paid; to revolts over deadly environmental conditions; to religious activists who worship gods other than mammon and the state (the two that are officially sanctioned); to Web surfers enamored of a free exchange of ideas; to Tibetans seeking autonomy; and maybe, someday, to another outburst of Tiananmen Square-like, pro-democracy agitation.</p>
<p>An authoritarian government can never be sure how many of its citizens would relish its demise, which means the Chinese Communist Party has 1.3 billion potential targets for surveillance. Bradsher reports that 660 Chinese cities have begun installing high-tech surveillance systems. By one estimate, high-end surveillance will expand from a $500 million industry in 2003 to a $43 billion industry by 2010.</p>
<p>These numbers have drawn Wall Street&#8217;s notice. CSST has received $110 million in convertible loans from the Citadel Group, a Chicago-based hedge fund, which it has used to buy up smaller Chinese surveillance companies. Some Wall Street executives have even defended their investments by equating the Chinese surveillance system with the surveillance cameras of London and New York.</p>
<p>To be sure, leading American companies have a long and sordid record of investing in totalitarian states, including Hitler&#8217;s Germany, Stalin&#8217;s Russia and axis-of-evil Iran (hello, Halliburton). But, distinguish as we must among the various levels of hell, at least those American companies did not invest in the Gestapo, the Stasi, the KGB, the Revolutionary Guard. Maybe that was only because it was hard to turn a buck on the Stasi. Once China turned communist repression into an investment opportunity, however, capitalism responded as capitalism is supposed to respond: It wanted in. There are mega-bucks to be made, the hedge funds concluded, in hedging against democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a friend who had his entire stock account in GE. He sang its praises when its price was over $50 per share. That was 7 years ago. I was skeptical due to his lack of diversification. He doesnt speak to me anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a friend who had his entire stock account in GE. He sang its praises when its price was over $50 per share. That was 7 years ago. I was skeptical due to his lack of diversification. He doesnt speak to me anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment about GE is quite sad, because it highlights how much industrial America has changed. The history of GE is one of the most fascinating and largely unknown stories of engineering and marketing excellence in the Twentieth Century. Together with the now defunct Westinghouse, GE was THE major cause of the electrification of this country and the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment about GE is quite sad, because it highlights how much industrial America has changed. The history of GE is one of the most fascinating and largely unknown stories of engineering and marketing excellence in the Twentieth Century. Together with the now defunct Westinghouse, GE was THE major cause of the electrification of this country and the world.</p>
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