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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Anonymous Bank Wires&#8221; from Income Tripler</title>
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		<title>By: reuve</title>
		<link>http://www.stockgumshoe.com/2008/11/anonymous-bank-wires-from-income-tripler.html/comment-page-1#comment-6796</link>
		<dc:creator>reuve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STOIC is just another HYIP- which is basically a SCAM.
You WILL lose ALL your money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STOIC is just another HYIP- which is basically a SCAM.<br />
You WILL lose ALL your money</p>
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		<title>By: robert zimmerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert zimmerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you go to the website for OPTIONS EXPRESS,  you will find a great deal of educational information, along with a great calculator facility for doing the math on just about any option strategy you want.

The put-call combo you are speaking of cn be explored by looking at the quotes for collars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you go to the website for OPTIONS EXPRESS,  you will find a great deal of educational information, along with a great calculator facility for doing the math on just about any option strategy you want.</p>
<p>The put-call combo you are speaking of cn be explored by looking at the quotes for collars.</p>
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		<title>By: sponger</title>
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		<dc:creator>sponger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CORRECTION to last sentence.  Substitute OTO order for OCO order.  OTO meaning one triggers the other, so that as soon as your stop loss order is triggered, an order to buy to close the option is automatically triggered and entered as a market order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CORRECTION to last sentence.  Substitute OTO order for OCO order.  OTO meaning one triggers the other, so that as soon as your stop loss order is triggered, an order to buy to close the option is automatically triggered and entered as a market order.</p>
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		<title>By: sponger</title>
		<link>http://www.stockgumshoe.com/2008/11/anonymous-bank-wires-from-income-tripler.html/comment-page-1#comment-6706</link>
		<dc:creator>sponger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traders must eventually come to realize that the more complex and fancier you try to get in your strategy the less there is to gain from it.  Every possible permutation and combination of equities, puts, calls, is mathematically rigged to perfection. Distortions in volatility present today can evaporate tomorrow.  Trading is still a game of chance and should be undertaken with less than ten percent of available funds.  Option sellers can do better than buyers, but you need an enormous portfolio -- near institutional size -- to make rewarding gains, because the only &quot;safe&quot; way to do it is to sell calls and puts that are so far out of the money that the premiums are almost meaningless unless there are so many of them that the sum total is rewarding, and even then, if you don&#039;t have heavily discounted commission free, fee based broker arrangements it is hard to win.  Plus,
keep in mind that numerous hedge funds that have used such tactics still ran into serious trouble because of excess volatility.  

As it stands, right now, Nov. 22, 2008, the best chance for investors resides in the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that has come our way, i.e. the forced hedge fund and mutual fund redemptions from our frightened neighbors which allows us to buy at unprecedented low multiples, but only if we begin now, next week, to build positions, perhaps 25% to 33% at a time, averaging in to the position whenever a major market move occurs (say 1000 points on the DOW)down OR up, trying to avoid any value traps (mirage values in vulnerable companies).  For this opportunity it is almost worth investing on margin (up to 50% margin at, say, 7%-10% annually) because of the 50% to 80% or more returns that are possible within 2-3 years. Stop orders should NOT be entered on such holdings.  Along with that, rather than trying to sell options during a viciously volatile market, it is better to simply buy OTM calls several months out or leaps where the maximum returns are unlimited and the downside defined in advance.  As to covered calls, they only make sense with a stock that has ALREADY proven profitable for you, and, in such a case, the best idea is to obtain level five trading classification so that your broker will permit you to enter a tight GTC trailing stop loss limit order under the price of the stock to take effect at the instant that the protection of the short call fails to keep pace with the loss in the stock, using a two part order specifying that as soon as the stock is sold the option is to be closed.  Buy-Write covered calls can be the kiss of death in this market environment, as can naked puts.  Collar trades are strictly for dogs. Long straddles or strangles are also possible option plays but must be given generous time to work out with limit sell orders entered for each leg, OCO -- the execution of one cancelling the other order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traders must eventually come to realize that the more complex and fancier you try to get in your strategy the less there is to gain from it.  Every possible permutation and combination of equities, puts, calls, is mathematically rigged to perfection. Distortions in volatility present today can evaporate tomorrow.  Trading is still a game of chance and should be undertaken with less than ten percent of available funds.  Option sellers can do better than buyers, but you need an enormous portfolio &#8212; near institutional size &#8212; to make rewarding gains, because the only &#8220;safe&#8221; way to do it is to sell calls and puts that are so far out of the money that the premiums are almost meaningless unless there are so many of them that the sum total is rewarding, and even then, if you don&#8217;t have heavily discounted commission free, fee based broker arrangements it is hard to win.  Plus,<br />
keep in mind that numerous hedge funds that have used such tactics still ran into serious trouble because of excess volatility.  </p>
<p>As it stands, right now, Nov. 22, 2008, the best chance for investors resides in the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that has come our way, i.e. the forced hedge fund and mutual fund redemptions from our frightened neighbors which allows us to buy at unprecedented low multiples, but only if we begin now, next week, to build positions, perhaps 25% to 33% at a time, averaging in to the position whenever a major market move occurs (say 1000 points on the DOW)down OR up, trying to avoid any value traps (mirage values in vulnerable companies).  For this opportunity it is almost worth investing on margin (up to 50% margin at, say, 7%-10% annually) because of the 50% to 80% or more returns that are possible within 2-3 years. Stop orders should NOT be entered on such holdings.  Along with that, rather than trying to sell options during a viciously volatile market, it is better to simply buy OTM calls several months out or leaps where the maximum returns are unlimited and the downside defined in advance.  As to covered calls, they only make sense with a stock that has ALREADY proven profitable for you, and, in such a case, the best idea is to obtain level five trading classification so that your broker will permit you to enter a tight GTC trailing stop loss limit order under the price of the stock to take effect at the instant that the protection of the short call fails to keep pace with the loss in the stock, using a two part order specifying that as soon as the stock is sold the option is to be closed.  Buy-Write covered calls can be the kiss of death in this market environment, as can naked puts.  Collar trades are strictly for dogs. Long straddles or strangles are also possible option plays but must be given generous time to work out with limit sell orders entered for each leg, OCO &#8212; the execution of one cancelling the other order.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanine Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanine Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t your stock get called away right away? I am afraid to sell too close to the current price!
Jeanine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t your stock get called away right away? I am afraid to sell too close to the current price!<br />
Jeanine</p>
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