ZYX Change Method?

By blufox, January 18, 2012

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Is anyone familiar with this service that presumeably uses a unique technical analsysis system to develop longs, shorts, et al? The site is :
http://thearorareport.com/ZYX%20METHOD.htm
I was reading Marketwatch ”Precious metals will fall if IMF sells gold” by the apparent creator of the site, Nigam Arora. I have never run across this site nor him before as I usually never read this type of article, preferring to do my own research and technicals. Thanks,
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Dennis
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January 20, 2012 10:36 pm
I’m a week into a free trial for this site. I wasn’t impressed with the comments on gold falling to $1200 if the IMF sold gold to raise cash to address the crisis in Europe. It seems implausible based on the amount of gold holdings they have. They’d only raise $140-ish billion if they sold it all, which they can’t come anywhere close to. So any gold sales they could make would raise sums inconsequential to the task at hand. The last time they sold gold, amounting to an eighth of their total at the time, over half the sale… Read more »
John
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John
January 22, 2012 5:56 pm

The Arora Report has correctly called every single major turn in both gold and silver markets since I started subscribing in 2007.
They recommended backing up the truck and buying silver when it was at $17. They also told us to sell silver when it was $50.
When gold was at $1900 and everybody, I mean eveybody was saying buy buy buy, they told us to sell half of gold.
Regarding IMF, I trust whatever Arora Report says because they have lots more data and analysis power than most of us do.

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mfdiva
February 10, 2012 4:31 pm

Have you reaped reward on any other recs besides those calling precious metals? I would be very interested in what others with a year long exposure to this methodology have to say about the various newsletters, especially the short sell recs. Thanks.

John
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John
February 13, 2012 8:48 pm
Gold and silver are only a small part of recommendations. The arora Report covers the gamut from equities to currencies to commodities to bonds. These guys are highly data driven . I have made more money from their services than any other service. I have subscribed to dozens. The most quick money I made on the short side was when I followed their recommendation and shorted CCJ on Friday at $38 and covered it on Monday at $28. You have to have some dedication and discipline to follow their method. ZYX method involves more work than other newsletters but it… Read more »
TedGeisel
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January 22, 2012 10:57 am
IMF is selling gold by all measures, but doing it very slowly to avoid a significant impact on price. I have looked at Nigam’s website and understand what he has developed. While I think that some trend systems are fantastic for the emotionally stable and I like Nigam’s theory, I simply don’t believe that any system doing what is proposed in zyx change is mathematically possible for a long period of time. Calling reversals is almost impossible imo, and I have been darn close a lot in my career, but sometimes, like 2011, I have had to wait out 20-30%… Read more »
greg
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October 19, 2012 7:05 am
I have been trying out the subscription for a couple of months. His research may be good, but the results he publishes are not right… His picks are fair but he has taken positions based on his fundamental research which is often exactly the opposite way the stocks go. Since he often pick stocks that trade at a low volume, it is difficult to get in and out at the levels he says he has got in. He does not use options to hedge the positions. (Selling covered calls/ getting into a position by selling a put and we cannot… Read more »
jack
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jack
October 24, 2012 9:39 pm
What are you smoking? In my years with The Arora Report, I have done hundreds of trades. Only twice out of hundreds, I had difficulty in getting the stock for short sale. Do AAPL, JPM,WMT,GLD, SLV, SLW, ABX, WAG, INTC, INFA, RHT etc. seem like low vlume? They trade millions of shares. Greg, you are missing something. Believe me I am cheap, I do not like to spend money. After my 3rd month, I quit all four of their subscriptions because I came across chartpatters.com that claimed to do everything arora’s 4 services did for 20% of the price. After… Read more »
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donspeaks
October 31, 2012 1:50 pm

It’s good to hear from somebody who’s had good experience with Arora. I am thinking of joining too, and have studied their website and comments carefully. One thing I cannot find is, do his positions need to take much price action AGAINST him while he waits for them to turn a profit? Coz if one is shorting, there may be significant margin calls since he doesn’t seem to use stop losses much. So I’d really like to know about the volatility of his model. Thanks.

jack
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jack
October 31, 2012 5:47 pm

You are right about shorts. Arora does a great job of risk control, but you will have to learn their techniques. It is a combination of tranches, stops, and quantities . Stops are used about 80% of the time. Rest of the time other techniques are used.
I like it coz nothing worse than stop hitting and stock reversing.
They provide details of how to manage trades.
if you get on board, carefully read guidelines and you will do just fine.

donspeaks
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donspeaks
October 31, 2012 11:16 pm

Thanks for your feedback Jack.

donspeaks
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donspeaks
November 1, 2012 8:35 am

Jack, I totally agree about getting stops hit just to see price move back in my direction again. Nothing worse. But just to clarify about shorting, if you don’t mind, would one get many margin calls if I were to follow Arora’s trades exactly and within the right percentages that he recommends for my portfolio size? Also, can his returns be truly replicated if I follow exactly what he instructs? Thanks so much for your help, since I cannot find anybody else who has had so much experience following Arora’s advice.

jack
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jack
November 5, 2012 9:28 pm

donspeaks, I have done better than them on some trades and worse than them on other trades. On the average I have great returns. I have never had a margin call. Arora does not take leverage.

Not-Jack-Not-John
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Not-Jack-Not-John
February 13, 2013 3:58 am
Hi Phil, I came to your page here while googling on this so called Mr Nigam’s claim released a few hours ago on forbes.com (see link below). http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2013/02/07/gold-traces-bullish-chart-pattern/ Any 2 years old child can draw a triangle like that. Seriously! I’m surprised that forbes would allow this to be published on their site! Anyways, my point here is similar to your earlier post on January 2012: “I have never run across this site nor him before as I usually never read this type of article, preferring to do my own research and technicals.” So, I am just wondering where you… Read more »
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steve
May 27, 2013 3:07 pm

The Arora Report called the right call to buy gold and silver.they sold silver at the top and then gold at the top. This is all documented at seekingalpha.com. l started subscription after verifying the calls. So far I have traded 16 of their calls. All made money. I subscribed beause arora had a call to buy palladium but he has cancelled the call. He has not answered my email. Does anyone know of another service about palladium. I think palladium is going to double and want to buy now but want to see analysis.

steve
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steve
June 7, 2013 10:13 pm

Nver mind.i found The Arora Report analysis on Palladium. I was not looking at the right place. Arora also has an article on palladium on market watch.

Mike
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October 14, 2014 2:48 pm
I’ve subscribed on and off over the last few years. Probably made more money than lost following his trade orders. Sometimes his buy range is too constrictive and you won’t be able to go long or short, but then he closes out that position at some future time and trumpets his victory, when his rec probably initially came out after the move in the stock beyond his range. I think what keeps me coming back to him is that he is like an artist with his recs. Very unconventional and contrarian which I like. I usually just pick the midpoint… Read more »
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