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By gator463, May 27, 2012

Anyone had any experience with the Adam Mesh trading system?

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daniel smith
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daniel smith
November 23, 2014 1:55 pm

Hi Adam, appreciate the prompt answers 🙂 and the link. Already checking into it.
Dan

Adam Mesh
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November 23, 2014 2:21 pm

Thanks Dan!

FURQAN ALTAF
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FURQAN ALTAF
February 25, 2015 6:29 pm
Reply to  Adam Mesh

Salutaions Adam my name is furqan altaf ,i am canadian of saudia arabian decent, i am currently a finanice collage student and am 19 years old i have had an interest in trading since i was 6 (guess i watch wall street the moive one to many times) I have been doing jobs and penny pinching for 9 years now getting my first job working for cash as an extra hand at a convenient store and it took me till last month to save up a large enough amonunt of money with which i can profitably start trading with in my personal trading account and realise adequate profits if i trade properly. I have been investing since the age of 13 howver i was with a candian bank that allow you to purchase their stock first hand its called td canada and i made about 6 k them however i am not sure what i am to do in a personally manged account as i want to make that my primary source of income and dont know more than the basic of trading, I have done otehr programs before which taught me the basic but i didi not see unbelieveable results, i howver didi not feel horrble as i only paid a fraction of what the program was worth through groupon. I as of right now need guidence to my goal of making tradingm a life style chocie replacing it as my primary income earner and incresing my portfolio at some point during my life make it to my 10 figure goal, but thats beside the point, I am emeiling you because i dont know what to do i dont have the funds as you know due to my age to dish out a heaft amouth of money only for it to not work and am very skectial of any service offering anything as majority of them are scams you look geniune which is why i am try to contact you. I head that you offer a free paper trading service where you give stock picks and peopl have made decent profits if thats truce could you tell me how to access that just so i can be sure to see if your picks are profitable for me before i dish out somthing major also whats that about the pay as you go. I will really appreciate a reply. My number is 416 831 3883, and my email is furqan.altaf@hotmail.com.

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FURQAN ALTAF
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FURQAN ALTAF
February 25, 2015 6:33 pm
Reply to  Adam Mesh

also would you offer any kind of discount or any accomodation as i am looking for an actual mentor might sound corny, but i am looking for a mentor. Can i contact you personally for help or no ?

ps pls say yes

FURQAN ALTAF
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FURQAN ALTAF
February 28, 2015 2:42 pm
Reply to  Adam Mesh

thanks adam mesh you have been very helpful , very nice individual really cares for his the average joe, He does not lie teats people like family.

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davsal2006
davsal2006
December 24, 2015 11:37 am

Hi Adam,

what about your “Full Contact Trading”?
I am being emailed about this.

Anyone joint this?

David

Bryan
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Bryan
August 22, 2016 12:30 pm

From what I see the “Full Contact Trading” is a system based on a book you can buy on amazon.com for $13 about reptiles

Stephanie Sherman
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August 22, 2016 1:36 pm
Reply to  Bryan

Hi Bryan – thanks for the comment. The Full Contact Trading System is a book for those looking to begin trading in the stock market. It is not a book about reptiles. Thanks again for the comment, hope that helps. If you need further help feel free to email me at stephanie.com

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Mike
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Mike
May 26, 2017 11:35 am

I just realized that I have been scammed

Adam Mesh
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May 26, 2017 2:14 pm
Reply to  Mike

Hey Mike,

I used to get upset if someone like yourself came on here and wrote something like this but now I use it as an opportunity.

You see, we have successfully worked with thousands upon thousands of subscribers so I should know, percentage wise, that there will always be times where someone is not happy.

It’s an amazing opportunity to self evaluate and either confirm we are doing what we need to do or improve.

In this case, I could not be prouder of my team and the way this was handled.

You signed up for a one on one coaching program.

Your coach called you and you let him know you were trying to do your session on an iPad.

He suggested a computer would be better.

Your computer wasn’t working and you became frustrated.

He tried to help and you became belligerent at my coach because your computer would’t work.

The coach was Michael Honig who is the nicest guy I’ve ever met and to that point someone who’ve I’ve never heard be argumentative in the 10+ years we have worked together.

He calmly said that the conversation wasn’t productive and perhaps you speak later.

Then Josh from my office called to see if everything was okay and you yelled “you are a scam” and hung up on him.

Then you went on here and said “I have been scammed.”

Perhaps, (hey Travis!), stock gumshoe should have a little due diligence before allowing people to write ridiculous things on here but that would hurt their search and lower subscribers and be and for business. In that sense it becomes a vehicle for all those credible and not.

Any how, I attempted to call you and you said, you want your money back.

I said no problem, but why did you become so angry and why did you say we are a scam?

You said, “well, I’ll remove it when I get my money back.”

Your money has been refunded but no need for you to remove this.

I’m proud of Michael and Josh for how they handled it.

Michael never lost his cool.

Josh called immediately to follow up.

As I said, this used to upset me, but it’ a part of growth.

If someone is reading this and deciding if they should work with me then yes, please know we would prefer not to work with belligerent people.

We have a strong, healthy business with a community that we think of like family.

When AMGN opened down 4 points at 53 on Monday and we owned the 60 puts in our service, the email of excitement and joy had me floating all day!

The testimonials on adammesh.com are all unsolicited and well earned.

In fact, we are so real and proud of what we do, we put this special promotion together: http://adammesh.com/accelerator

If you weren’t the real thing you could not do something like that!

I’m a proud owner of the company and I love my team!.

I’m sorry you became frustrated with your iPad and your computer and we’ve all been there.

I’m not mad at you. I just look to learn from every experience and I hope you do too.

While your money has been refunded and it’s best if we don’t work together in the future, I wish you good luck elsewhere.

Please realize the number of people we work with and know that if someone has a bad day and vents on us in a public forum, it’s not a reflection of who we are or what we do.

In fact, we’ve actually grown to the point where I just got this email from my head of digital marketing:

Hey All,

So the following page on adammesh.com is ranked no. 1 on Google for the search terms “how to succeed in the stock market” – a very common phrase

https://adammesh.com/how-to-make-money-in-the-stock-market/

That means when people search how to succeed in the stock market, they look to us

Even on the stock gumshoe site where people go to vent, you can clearly see the majority of community members that say positive things about us.

If anyone wishes to speak to me directly, my number is 212-774-5977 or you can email me at adam.com.

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mia
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mia
June 26, 2017 4:54 pm

i had a brief go around with the mesh team…
with in the last 8 months.
very how do say kind of put up or shut up mentality.
calls were off the cuff un-staged a lot of excitement, unnecessary hype.
unclear to follow logic and reasoning for me..
was disappointed for the wild recommendations loss of 300/dollars mbg
called too refund within 24 hours of signing b/c of the conference call,
ridiculous nature .
was denied refund encouraged to try another service or at least stay in for allotted time since i was losing 300 anyway.
not impressed/ recommendations were way off the mark

adam mesh
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adam mesh
June 26, 2017 5:09 pm
Reply to  mia

This description was a little hard to follow because of the way it was written but I will try to respond. In terms of a “put up or shut up mentality.” That doesn’t sound so bad. I like people to put in the effort and come ready but all questions are encouraged so not sure where that “shut up” idea comes from. As for our webinars, they are the most popular part of our program. “Mia” described them as “un-staged.” That’s true! We do live webinars during market hours and discuss stocks in play at that time. We don’t know what will be in play as it’s happening live so it can’t be staged but who would want it that way?! As far the “unnecessary hype”, I’m not selling anything on these webinars as it’s just for embers. So that’s not hype, that’s pure passion and love of the game. No apologies there either. Bottom line, hundreds of people show up every week for these webinars and participation is off the charts. Can’t please every single person bit that’s not my goal. My goal is to provide the ultimate trading experience for the people that “put up” the effort and participate with us. If anyone is reading this and wants to experience it for themselves, email me: adam.com. Subject: Gumshoe. I will then invite you onto one of these webinars as my guest so you an experience it for yourself. This would be a lot of fun all around! This will be a good test as well to see who’s reading this!

Marlin
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Marlin
July 13, 2017 12:27 pm
Reply to  adam mesh

Based on the overwhelming percentages with “bad” experiences with you “system” I believe your continued “pitch” is now like “barking up a hollow log.”

adam mesh
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adam mesh
July 13, 2017 3:12 pm
Reply to  Marlin

This is very hard to follow. Overwhelming percentages with “bad” experiences. No idea what this is saying. i had one Marlin in for a couple of weeks but it would be impossible for this to correlate with him. I had 290 people on a webinar today that watched with glee as we closed out a big one day NVDA win. I try to make everyone happy but I guess that’s an uphill battle. Anyone is welcome to test my response time by emailing me adam.com or calling either 212-774-5977 or 212-774-5983.

mystic100
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mystic100
October 4, 2017 1:50 pm

So I got the email from Adam Mesh and I usually simply delete anything I didn’t solicit, in other words my address was obviously purchased from someone who had it (I expect this these days even when people say they never “share” an address, that doesn’t mean they don’t “sell” it. Whatever … that’s the way of things nowadays).
Anyway, I have been a Gumshoe follower for years and use it as a resource for getting through hype, which is the mission Travis is on and I want to keep supporting.
Adam Mesh’s responses over the last few years are laudatory, so that goes in his favor. I found this thread useful.
I went ahead and ordered the $29.95 Full Contact starter package, partly because he won me over in this thread and also because I am definitely looking to get my act together on my investment strategy for retirement (which I have already entered into as I’m in my mid 60’s now).
I will take him up on his invite to audit one of his member calls if that is still available.
I’ll also report back here my experience of entering into this “community” and the quality of attention that is truly offered.
By the way, I am a professional coach and trainer who has worked privately with executives and organizations and taught hundreds (if not thousands) in the art and skill of coaching. So I think I know some things about what excellent coaching and customer service and satisfaction look like.

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stephanie
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October 6, 2017 4:08 pm
Reply to  mystic100

Hi Mystic100 – we hope you are enjoying the Full Contact Trading and look forward to seeing you on the weekly webinars. If you have any questions about your purchase or subscription feel free to give us a call at anytime! Welcome to the Adam Mesh Trading Group!

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j diaz
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j diaz
December 8, 2017 1:11 am

Although I use stockgumshoe to look up new investment ideas, I’ve never posted on this or any other review site. So here goes a first. Two years ago, I started reading/researching for a way to supplement a very small retirement income. Convinced I could do it with the right effort and instruction, I started with Stansberry. Learned alot even with their inexpensive offerings. Had some success, but those are medium to long term investments. I needed quicker gains starting with limited funds and options appeared to be a possibility. I lost most of my starting capital following different gurus, then signed up for OWM, one of Adam Mesh’s services. (They love acronyms!) It wasn’t a good fit so I called to cancel and get a refund. After explaining what I was trying to accomplish, they extended my refund period and put me in a different program. I had more winners than losers. The weekly calls were real and engaging. It didn’t eliminate the frustration of losing trades, but I was learning more than just following recommendations. Even with that, I almost gave up when we went through a losing streak. Then things turned around last month. I’ve now made back all that I had lost…from this service and others! Glad I stayed with ’em!

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cer656
February 5, 2018 11:42 pm

Thanks for your comments everyone. I will stay away – far away…
CER

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Bill Hooker
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Bill Hooker
February 7, 2018 3:03 pm

I took the average joe trading course roughly 10 years ago. Adam held weekly meetings and Christian was my tutor. Occasionally I still read the book and watch the dvd for a refresher. I found it quite valuable and informative and thought it was money well spent. I haven’t purchased any trading services. Ultimately any trades, suggested or not, are your own decision. Market fluctuations make it impossible for all trades to be winners. Take profits while they are there and cut losses quickly and you can overall make a lot of money. Optionistics, Yahoo screeners, and vantage point I have found to be excellent and invaluable sources of Information also.

Mark Hirschhorn
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Mark Hirschhorn
July 9, 2018 8:07 pm

I was with them for a month ending today.
They would probably admit this was one of their worst months ever.

But besides wrongeard picks I think it would be very difficult to make money with them.
Firstly , you get a dispatch – at no particular time, which means: if you answer another call, eat lunch go to the bathroom or work you are going to miss trades. And then of course the biggest winning ones.
When the “advice” to buy said option at $1.90 you’ll be lucky to see $2.40.
NO I don’t believe they are criminal, yet it doesn’t seem likely to earn with them.

Arun Chandru Sekar
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Arun Chandru Sekar
August 20, 2018 4:38 pm

Did you happen to find a good guru ? Pls advise me at firefly.arun88@gmail.com hangouts

adam mesh
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adam mesh
October 27, 2018 2:44 pm

Hey Mark,

I must say your post was written in a very fair way. In our TPM service, July was our worst month ever. The unexpected after hours china trade war news sent all 3 of our positions down along with the rest of the market. We exited losing over 1k of the 2k risked. That stinks but it is part of trading. The thing I must say is that overall, the service has done incredibly well on low risk. If you can make 2,4 and even 10k risking less than 2k then small loses are worth it. I read about a lot of other companies on stockgumshoe that give our industry a bad name but I’m proud to say and many would agree that I’m a good guy , our team is made up of good people and our community is made up of fantastic members. Our trade alerts are sent via email and text but yes, if you are out to lunch and miss a trade, it could have moved while you are not there. Sometimes a better price and sometimes worse but always in motion. You might see a 1.90 buy for 2.40 but it definitely works both ways. We recently put out a sell alert on LULU after a around 30% gain and watched as it would have been a 300% gain just hours later so definitely works both ways. For any one person that says they can’t win with us, I’ll find 10 that say they win because of us. Happy to discuss or have you back any time! My # 212-774-5977.

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Dennis
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Dennis
October 26, 2018 3:46 pm

Have been a paying subscriber for 4 years. All the successful trades combined for the whole 4 years would not pay for even one of my subscriptions. Christians’ chart analysis is what kept me in. Tho their trades are sh*t, the analysis helped in all of my other trading. I trade mostly the indices, and felt Christian had a handle on watching trends and charts.

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two4ac
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two4ac
October 27, 2018 9:33 am
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I used to take the OTHER side and did pretty well. You could do a coin flip and make more money. Now I strictly day trade and have never been happier. I don’t agree with the majority of what CT has to say or his analysis as it usually goes against mine. Thank God they have a large customer base to generate income because the stock picks SUCK for the most part.

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Adam Mesh
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October 27, 2018 1:02 pm
Reply to  Dennis

Hey Dennis,

It’s Adam. First, thanks for being a subscriber for 4 years. That certainly is appreciated. It’s a little frustrating that after 4 years as a member rather than reaching out to me to voice a complaint you went to a public forum. That said here we are. To say our trades are not good is just not something I could accept. There are thousands of members that would agree with me as well. Now if you came on and we had a bad month, sure that could happen. But if you’ve been a member for 4 years then you have had ample time to see that not only are all of our subscriptions highly positive, it’s well beyond the cost of a membership. In fact, the only reason I can offer more services is because of the success that members have with the existing ones. I can’t be sure because you only said your first name and we have multiple members named Dennis but if you have been in for 4 years I assume you are in the options money machine. From April through September it made around 25 trades and only one was a $50 loser. So my guess would be you only make a couple of trades? If you only make a couple of trades on a credit spread service that is built for income not wealth then it could stand to reason that it’s not working for you. The most important thing is consistency so I would ask you to let me or us know if you actively participate or occasionally. You can call me any time at 212-774-5977 or email me adam.com. Our results are awesome and it just strikes me as strange for you to have said what you did. I’ll go so far as to say here, publicly, if you reach out to me via the # or email given and can show me that our subscription has not made more than your membership price since you joined you can have your money back. I stand by what we do and I’m very proud of the trades we make. So is the best community in trading there is.

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catherine
catherine
October 27, 2018 4:28 pm
Reply to  Adam Mesh

Adam, it doesn’t surprise me at all that Dennis shared his opinion here, among friends, rather than calling your office to say he wasn’t making money. I’ve been a subscriber to newsletters, and never thought to call to tell them how well, or not well, I’m doing.
The only exception to that was when I was losing so much that I called to cancel an auto-renew, and they specifically asked “why?”.

It’s a nice offer you made to return his subscription price if he’s lost money with your service, and your tone overall is cordial, so I thought I’d just take a minute to add another perspective.

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Adam Mesh
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October 27, 2018 6:35 pm
Reply to  catherine

Thanks Catherine. The reason I asked why he never called is because if others are succeeding where he is not, I want to help. We have someone who’s entire job is “head of customer experience.” He let’s us know if texts aren’t going out or any thing we publish doesn’t make sense. My biggest thing is it’s better to ask a question then lose money because you were afraid to. That’s why I wanted him to reach out. 4 years is also a long time! Catherine, if you’d like to try a free month in our community, email me adam.com. Put – stock gumshoe as the subject line. Then if you like it you can let your community know about it :)!

Tom
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Tom
October 27, 2018 5:47 pm

Hi Adam,

Since it looks like you are active on this blog today, I thought I’d ask a question as well. Some of your answers here reference specific services either in full, Options Wealth Machine, “TPM” an acronym for something else.

Meanwhile your web site has links for:

Coaching (self-explanatory I think…)

Services:
– Mesh Insider
– Income Advantage For Life
– Smart Money Elite
– 5 Star Trading Academy
– Ultimate Beginner’s Guide
– Full Contact

I get e-mail from you occasionally about something called “The Quest”

Maybe it’s just me but I can’t seem to map the different services you describe in e-mail or here against the services that appear to be available on your web site.

Is there a definitive list that describes the services, just bullet points even, i.e. this is our credit spread service, its name is “Options Wealth Machine”, this is our stock pick service 1 – you get N picks per month -its name is XYZ, etc.?

I don’t understand why some of these things don’t appear on the web site.

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adam
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adam
October 27, 2018 11:37 pm
Reply to  Tom

Hi Tom,

Thanks for reaching out. You can also always email me adam.com with follow up questions.

The Ultimate Beginner’s Guide to The Stock Market was the very first thing I wrote when I started my company back in 2006. After listening to what everyone else had to say, I added a lot of what I thought was not being said.

Full Contact Trading combines my favorite trading book ever with a system built around it.

Our first options service was a credit spread service. It’s designed to go after trades for income with defined risk. It’s usually 1/2 trades per week. That’s OMM.

The follow up was OWM. This is diagonal calendars so we look for capital appreciation as well as premium collection. We also some times “leg in” so the trade just begins directionally.

TPM is straight calls for 1/2 weeks based on a proprietary pattern identified by my a CMT, someone I have worked with for over 12 years.

The 5 star and Smart Money are stock based services. Smart Money incorporates unusual institutional flow.

There are different people involved with each.

For option traders, omm (credit spreads) is what I like to see people start with as the trades we do usually have higher than a 70% win rate so members can experience success early on and I think that’s so important.

Again, for any follow up, email me adam.com.

Going to watch the rest of the world series now, have a good night!!

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alliec65
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alliec65
January 11, 2019 10:04 am

Ok, I can no longer say I never join discussions like this. Today is the first. I cannot understand how people find the time to write about their anger and disappointment they feel due to some investment failures. I hear disappointment and sometimes anger directed at someone or something else when I read the negative comments. These come from beginner investors and investors that say they have been investing for 30 yrs and all the years in between.
I always randomly choose websites that have reviews on a company or individual I am considering to invest my money in for a service they are offering me, however, I never allow what I read to be anywhere close to a deciding factor. I have found over the last few years that negative reviews about a person or company that sold someone an informational product should never be used as a deciding factor. It’s interesting actually how people (and if this does not apply to you then I’m not talking about you so there is no need to get mad at me will blame someone else for a purchase “they” made, for money they have lost OR for the money they have money they have not earned based on decisions they made. All of the “theys” I used are referring to the person who made the 6

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Rob
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Rob
January 12, 2019 1:41 pm
Reply to  alliec65

Alliec65, would you please finish your comment with a Part 2? Your initial comment ended with “All of the “theys” I used are referring to the person who made the 6” and I am curious what the 6 refers to. Thank you

Ken Chesman
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Ken Chesman
July 6, 2019 5:57 pm

$595 for 6 months

first trade made over 1000 but I missed it because I did not know how to follow instructions

second trade made over 2000 but I couldn’t get filled ( my fault)
next 2 trades were small losses.

my only complaint is the number of trades is far short of 1 or 2 per week.
they offered an additional system to make up for it and extended time.

still no trades

I think they are honest but I’ll reserve judgement for now

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