“Average Joe” Adam Mesh trading systemAnyone had any experience with the Adam Mesh trading system?
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Hey James,
I have but it makes sense because I run it!
We began in 2006 with just me and now have a team of program coordinators and 14 coaches throughout the country. As you can probably tell already, I am a micro-manager and am able to keep in close contact with everyone who comes in the program through my weekly group call. I am also pleased to say we have over 3,000 active members in our private stock market forum. We have the highest accreditation with the Better Business Bureau and love what we do. For more information: Visit adammesh.com or call: 212-774-5977 (see who answers :)).
I think itprobably is a good program but I think the get in money is a bit hig for the “Average” Joe. PLUS when I inquired and paid my initial $50 all I got was a bunch of hard sell tactics. I’m not a fan of that. If he can ake that kind of money what does he need us for? Fame?
yes, 1000 $49 applications is $49,000 in there pocket.
I would like to report your company to the BBB. I paid 67$ to get spam and cannot contact anyone from your customer service (if it even exists). Stay away from this is my advice.
I haven’t been on here for a while but just saw this. It’s certainly challenging to run a business in the technology age. You email over 300,000 people every day, deal diligently with thousands of customers and one guy can come on and say whatever he wants to thousands of people who read this – however irresponsible it is. Well, that’s why you have to micro-manage! Thurston did buy a $67 guide from us in April. Everyone who has bought it knows it is an e-product that comes in your email the second you purchase it. He never called us or emailed us adam@adammesh.com, support@adammesh.com or called the # I have posted several times on here: 212-774-5977. He never simply replied to the email in my box. Without ever contacting us through every accessible manner, he did report us to the BBB. Fortunately, the BBB appreciates the fact that we have thousands of customers and the absolute minimal amount of complaints so in addition to our A rating, they said this:
BBB Accreditation
BBB has determined that Adam Mesh Trading Group, LLC meets BBB accreditation standards, which include a commitment to make a good faith effort to resolve any consumer complaints. BBB Accredited Businesses pay a fee for accreditation review/monitoring and for support of BBB services to the public.
When we got the complaint I sent this internal email on September 21st:
Adam Mesh
Sep 21
to Stephanie
Steph – please see below.
He was sent an e-guide.
In addition, we attempted to follow up and see how it was going but he provided an incorrect #.
Below he wrote: 757-326-XXXX
On the BBB, he wrote: 757-325-XXXX
We will resend today so he has it again but it was sent and he never contacted us.
– As you can see, not only did he never attempt to contact us, instead spending the energy on writing false disparaging remarks, he put the wrong phone number on his initial form so we couldn’t contact him via phone and he was unresponsive through email! (I obviously did not post his full number on here). Any how, let his mistake be your gain. If you read all this and think my explanation is more thorough and based on fact – please shoot me an email at adam@adammesh.com. Have the subject say stock gumshoe post. Let me know how can help and I will do my best!
sir i am naveen and i am from india
earning only 100 doller in a month and i want to learn money making in option and how can it possible please help me sir,
I signed up for their 30 day trial period. Lost $900 on the first trade. Called to cancel, and received a hard time about the refund, plus a high pressure sales pitch to stay signed up. Very difficult to deal with, and very argumentative. BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve been in this business for well over a decade and after speaking to Fred, I got off the phone and immediately said he was the most unpleasant man I had ever spoken to and I guarantee he tries to write something about about me. He wrote in asking for a refund saying he lost $800 on a trade. I called him because I was concerned and wanted to know what trade. I said, “Hi Fred, it’s Adam.” His response, “I can’t believe these high pressure sales tactics you are using.” Incredulously, I responded, “I just said hello?” He said why are you even calling me? I said because you said you lost $800 and I want to make sure you didn’t do anything wrong. He said, are you kidding me, I’ve been doing this a long time, I don’t make mistakes. I said Fred, you are getting a refund so i don’t want you to think this is a conversation about that but what trade did you do? He said UA. I said okay, UA was a paired trade where we went long UA and short IBM. If you were short IBM too then you did not lose that money. He said I didn’t do the IBM just the UA. I said okay, that’s why I called, just to go over the whole trade. He said I don’t care I just want a refund, I said no problem and he was immediately credited. With over a decade in the business and over 10,000 customers serviced, you can read the reviews yourself. He is 1 of 2 people out of 10,000 to ever say anything like this so I’d play the percentages. If you have any questions, or would also like a free trial to my number one service, call me: 212-774-5977.
I had the same experience! Complete pain to cancel. I finally had to cancel my cc.
Homer,
I only have one homer in my system and 2 weeks ago they wrote:
Dear Adam,
Just wanted to tell you I finally got to attend today’s webinar uninterrupted!!! And yes, it was super. So, thank you from the very bottom of my heart….
So I don’t think that’s you. Are you using an alias?
If yes, please let me know what service you were in and why you would have to cancel your credit card?
Almost everything we offer is paid up front and you would only cancel your credit card to prevent auto billing.
The only product we have that recurs is $27 and although that is still money, I promise I wouldn’t jeopardize my reputation for $27,000 let alone $27. We have over 1,000 members in it and it’s really just a way to establish relationships with people.
Any how, something is not adding up but I am curious. Feel free to call me at: 212 774 5977.
11pm on Friday night going on stock gumshoe to blast me, sounds more like a competitor then a customer.
But if you are a customer and you really had a negative experience, call me and we will make it right.
my personal opinion is the same as Deborahs all these guys and their “systems” are garbage if their systems are so great then why are they selling it for , they should be able to make enough money trading. Oh I know cause they care about the individual investor and they want to help us all become rich. please they are selling it cause thats the only way they can make money with their system is charging people to learn it.
Okay now, the downside of being a micro-manager is feeling the need to respond to each and every comment. To begin, the question posed was: “does anyone have any experience with the adam mesh trading system?” . Deborah thinks it is good but she never tried it. She said she paid $50 but unfortunately it was not to me. Deborah, please check your records and you will find you made a purchase through Prosper. I had tried to work with them years ago but stopped it very early because of the reason you described. When I found out they were using my name I asked that they stop that immediately. To be sure, call me: 212-774-5977 and I will send you my product free so you can confirm. Philip, you and I have never met and you are not a customer but I think your point is valid. There are many, many people who get rich selling systems. Here is why I am different. 1.) I put my name on my program where most others do not. 2.) I offer “pay as you go plans” without requiring people to commit to the whole cost up front so that if it is not for them, they can stop. 3.) My trading has been documented by independent sources: http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2000/02/21/273891/index.htm, http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2001/02/19/296866/index.htm, http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2003/12/22/356092/ . 4. I really have to agree with you on one point: When I appeared on television I had two thousand people a day ask for my help so I do agree with you that I DO care about the individual investor. I sold my interest in my trading firm to write a free newsletter that now has over 250,000 subscribers: adammesh.com . The coaching programs were because people wanted more and I set up a program that involves 3 parts: a. weekly one on one coaching b. weekly calls with me. 3. a forum with over 3,000 members. So there are costs because I pay the traders who teach and the people who run the forum and yes, I do make money but for the time I put in, I would be an idiot not to! There are baseball players that make $25 million a year and they get paid to sign autographs. Do you know how much it costs to have 1 share of Warren Buffet’s company and do you know how much he makes? And Bill Gates is a multi billionaire but they still sell computers. I am proud of the program and think my rates are extremely fair considering the level of service provided. I have a question and challenge for you!: Question: when you promoted eght on stock twits, was it at 5.10 and then went to 3.88 or was it 2 years early where it was 1.25 and you were right? Challenge: Try my course for a month and come back on here and tell other gumshoes about your experience!
Sory Adam I did “try” it I paid my intial fee then got a few phone calls saying I needed $5000 to start. Honestly the representaatove was so agressive he scared me away. I see your ads all the time but it was like an MLM pay a little fee then IF you want more it is a bigger fee and so on. I think you probably are a good trader but my concern is that I personally felt like I was being pushed and didn’t feel comfortable with the person you had go after my account. Trust and comfortable feelings are what makes for success. I am always trying to improve my trading but this just plain was too “in Your face” for my personality. I felt like I wasted my money. AND I actually hid from your reps calls. That is MY honest experience.
Adam: I want to be sure I am dealing with you. The person’s name was Josh. Is this your company? I am a little confused because I got an e-mail from YOLO asking for my credit card when you already have my number.
Hi James, confirmed Josh does work in our office! If you have any questions feel free to email or call me directly. Stephanie@adammesh.com or (212)774-5983
Left out my favorite. Check out the date on this article. See where the stock market was and the stocks mentioned in it. Then look what happened:
http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/adam-mesh-squeeze/2009/03/05/id/328626
Visit http://www.adammesh.com to see us whenever we appear in the media.
adam i was not referring to you specifically just “market gurus” in general. obviously not all are alike and maybe you are doin it for the right reasons if i offended you i didnt mean to was just stating my opinion on the whole stock market system scams that are much more common than people who truly do care. i would hope your not an idiot of course i would expect you to charge for your lessons the point i was making is that if someones system is so great why not make money trading it instead of teaching it ?if i had a system that was as good as some people tout theirs to be i would be trading it and sharing it with close friends and family and not be bothered with other people i dont know. as for eght i dont even remember talking about it on stock twit, although i have an account with stock twits i havent been on that site in over a year, but i purchased it at 2.75 and still own it. i wasnt promoting it i truly believe they are a good company and have it in my ira. i just started trading a little over 2 yrs ago and only do it part time . i have a full time job and dont have time to trade every day although i would love to because i enjoy it much more. as far as signing up for your classes and bragging to the rest of the gumshoe followers how good you are i don’t have money to spend on that however i do recieve your newsletter and made a few bucks on your coh call so thanks for that.
Phil, first off, very happy to hear you made money in COH. Also, nice job with the other stock. I can’t speak for others but when I was day trading, I had no time for anything but that. I would trade pre-market, intra-day and after-hours. Then I realized I didn’t have the lifestyle I wanted so I became a swing trader. Now I trade for days, weeks, months and if the stock keeps me in it – even years! I enjoy the trading much more, it’s the style that has been working and I have the lifestyle which does free me up to run this trading group. The community has become a great place for people to bounce ideas off of each other. I love it when members outperform me! I think you are right for having your guard up and hope you keep it there. If people can’t answer tough questions then you need to be protective of your hard earned money. I hope you continue to enjoy my newsletter and wish you much success in all areas of life.
I just wanted to let others know how much I have enjoyed the Adam Mesh Coaching program. When I first looked into this, I had no idea about anything stock related, but had been interested in investing for quite some time.
I did not have a lot of start up capital and was nervous about trading. Adam’s program coordinator’s were great in advising me to save up until I had money that I could trade with free of emotion. My coach has been really understanding and great at moving at my pace. I have learned so much and love that I have the stock club and weekly calls to keep me current with the market even when I do not have a lot of time to focus on it.
Overall, great experience! Thank you Adam!
Hi Tina, how much is that service if you don’t mind?
Hey David, I can’t see which service you are asking about but if you email
me: adam@adammesh.com, subject gumshoe, we will follow up and steer you in the right place!
I first joined the Adam Mesh team back in 2008. I started with a guide and then signed up for their coaching program. Since then my trading account has only gone up. They helped me learn how to protect my profits and keep my emotions out of my trading. I am still an active paying member of their stock club and could not be happier with the service i received from them. This program is great for anyone who is looking for a disciplined trading system. They also always pick up the phone – which is always nice.
I saw this and thought hmmm..I would like for you to send me your program then if I make a successful profit or what you would consider a successful profit (more than $5000k a day right?) Then I can make you a check for $ 47. Come on believe in me! I just don’t have $47 right now as a matter of fact I only have $23 and I still have 12 days til payday…this average joe-julie is financially challenged at the moment.
Shonda,
I have a question for you. If you only have $23 and it’s 12 days to payday, do you think you might have a spending/income problem?
Every self made wealthy person out there had to learn that lesson first. I promise you it is the truth, it is a fact. If you are not saving money (i.e. spending less than you make), you must change that first and foremost! Either reduce your spending or increase your income or both.
I for one can see Shonda’s dilemma. I am a Sr.Citizen on a fixed (& very low) income. I spend money on nothing that is not necessary & just don’t have any extra money. Because I have some physical challenges, I have been unable to find a job & therefore looking for something online. I guess the old adage “you need money to make money” is true, unfortunately.
Don’t mind paying money for a system if the money is well spent..So !! How much and what am I to expect from it ? I have already started trading and have gained 15K over 2.5 months..This was strictly on Gold/Silver and Mining Stock (FNV)..Of course to make 15K took a hefty sum to throw at the stocks and that will never change no matter what anyone will tell you.. I have never traded before but find it to be a rewarding, exciting and sometimes underwear staining experience.. Always looking at ways to learn new things and better myself at what I like to do..This trading stuff is a lot easier than golf..
“Of course to make 15K took a hefty sum to throw at the stocks and that will never change no matter what anyone will tell you.. “
I will tell you I took a trial $8k account (teaching someone else to trade) to $39k between October and December of 2018. Granted it was a very easy time to make money being short, but between mid January and late April of this year, being far more conservative with trades, we doubled the account again, this time being long.
Obviously you need options, not stocks, to make that % consistently.
Hi,
I’d just like to know from guys who have gone through the course or from Adam if the system he teaches is applicable to other markets such as forex, because a lot of the program seems to be targeted at stocks. Thanks!
P.S. Thanks adam for taking the effort to address the hard questions personally. It really helps with the credibility.
Adam Mesh is the real deal. The way his system works is technical trading so it could work in any market as long as their are charts to look at. I stick to stocks, but I do know they provide options training as well. As a former stock market loser, i can confidently say the Adam Mesh program has made me a stock market winner.
Aloha:
I just signed up for the course but was not able to get through or continue. After filling the form with my charge card for $47.00 Option 2 I had problem with the Video. IThen I couln’t continue. Second, I could not download and could not continue so I exited. If I could not get the proper instruictions like the Basic Manual, I would like to cancel and get credit for the $47;00. Your earnest reply is appreciated.
Antonio,
Why in the world would you make a request for customer service from Adam and his organization HERE? He has clearly posted phone, emails web site, all you need to do is contact THEM. The person, company or organization you have spent money with is who you need to take your problems to. They have your money, get them to fix what is wrong. Posting about it here is a waste of your time.
Quick Update:
Mr. Garcia was issued a refund for the $47 beginner’s guide on 1/30/13 and we are happy to report he is still a happy subscriber and we just got an aloha from him yesterday!
I run the customer support team at the Adam Mesh Trading Group and as you can see, am a micromanager like Adam!
Email me with any questions: stephanie@adammesh.com
or call: 212-774-5983.
Thanks!
Stephanie
Head of Customer Service – The Adam Mesh Trading Group
Okay, before I go to far, what is the real cost of this program after the cheap $47
to real get into this trading system Adam seems to have mastered.
The Adam Mesh Trading Group responded to my 90 year old father’s request to subscribe to their coaching system. After receiving a book, a few DVDs and signed on with a coach, he realized he had made a choice beyond his geriatric capabilities. When Tyler’s sensitive alert reached Adam Mesh he personally picked up the phone and called my Dad. Adam very graciously solved our issue with a very generous compromise. Both Adam and Tyler were personally sensitive, caring, kind, and compassionate men as they dealt with Dad’s medical and mental limitations. We highly recommend Adam and Tyler as men of integrity who have invested their personal time & efforts in us even though Dad was not able to continue the program. We appreciate their consideration. Thanks, you guys. Claudia
I didn’t see any response to, which is also my question: “Derrell Huff says:
April 21, 2013 at 10:14 am
Okay, before I go to far, what is the real cost of this program after the cheap $47
to real get into this trading system Adam seems to have mastered.”
My other question is that stocks are the only trading vehicle mentioned. Unless you have at least 50k in a trading acct, there is no way you can make thousands of dollars on stocks via swing trading. It can be done with options. I already use technical analysis and right now I am slowly getting bearish (puts) on index options.
Thx for your time
paul
I just signed up yesterday for the coaching program and paid the first of 3 payments. It’s not my place to mention what this was as it’s only appropriate coming from Adam and his employees. I have no affiliation with them and am glad to post my contact info in case anyone wants to know how it’s going. I didn’t let the price stand in my way as I expect to recoup this in multiples. I searched every service I could find and went with Adam Mesh. I answered my own question about why he would teach his success if he can just proactive it but then realized that I know Attorneys earning millions annually who find it prestigious to teach at law schools and universities. Adam mentioned in the open discussion forum thst he might get ideas so it also seems like it’s productive as well as gratifying. So far, any questions have either been answered immediately when calling and emailed me after hours. So far I would give them a high rating although the important part starts tomorrow at 9 am. I am very optimistic
Paul Jacobs
(203) 410-4968
Adam, I agree with Paul & Derrell. You’re better off telling us the real cost of the program. I, like many, am not going to spend a lot of time just to find out what it actually costs. Speaking as one who is interested in learning more about swing trading.
I also agree with James Johnson. Will Some Body (or better, Some Bodies) who has experienced the Adam Mesh system, & who knows what it costs, please write a review
So I’m new to trading and I’m really just looking around to see how it all works.
I think someday (hopefully soon) I’ll be ready for some serious training, but I want to learn more about the basics first. There seem to be a lot of peopel out there selling programs Adam seems to be real whit what Ive seen.
The one thing I noticed on this site is that a lot of people want to know what Adam’s real program costs. My question is why not just call him? I mean he gave you his phone numbers. I’m not ready to do anything, but if you are it’s a 5 minute call.
My 2 cents. Happy trading
Hmm… the $47 question still lingers…
I have discovered after many hours of research that all the teaching and trade following sites are a scam. As we all know and ask “why would somebody who has made millions as a floor trader, money manager, etc, now want to teach people?” To a man, they all say they want to help the “little guy” beat the institutions. Some, I think, are sincere, but all of them over time lose money and sometimes big money. The only people who you will see endorse the services are either “plants” or entered the service during one of their short winning streaks. You are better off getting free training (in my case think or swim with tdameritrade). No endorsement for them just an example of extensive daily training that is free. I am sure the other big brokerages offer the same type of training, after all you will probably trade more often after learning. Another 2 cents worth from:
paul
Hey Paul. I obviously feel the need to respond to your post. You referenced tdameritrade. I am a fan of there system, specifically for options (I prefer fidelity for stocks) but they also did buy investools. Their standard program starts at $8,999. So they do sell coaching. I am not familiar with their coaches but I would put the real world trading experience of my coaches against anyone in the industry. Regarding the rest of your post, I have responded to a similar one but wanted to respond to you as well. Also, please note there is a huge difference between coaching and subscriptions. Here is what I said:
You and I have never met and you are not a customer but I think your point is valid. There are many, many people who get rich selling systems. Here is why I am different. 1.) I put my name on my program where most others do not. 2.) I offer “pay as you go plans” without requiring people to commit to the whole cost up front so that if it is not for them, they can stop. 3.) My trading has been documented by independent sources: http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2000/02/21/273891/index.htm, http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2001/02/19/296866/index.htm, http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2003/12/22/356092/ . 4. I really have to agree with you on one point: When I appeared on television I had two thousand people a day ask for my help so I do agree with you that I DO care about the individual investor. I sold my interest in my trading firm to write a free newsletter that now has over 250,000 subscribers: adammesh.com . The coaching programs were because people wanted more and I set up a program that involves 3 parts: a. weekly one on one coaching b. weekly calls with me. 3. a forum with over 3,000 members. So there are costs because I pay the traders who teach and the people who run the forum and yes, I do make money but for the time I put in, I would be an idiot not to! There are baseball players that make $25 million a year and they get paid to sign autographs. Do you know how much it costs to have 1 share of Warren Buffet’s company and do you know how much he makes? And Bill Gates is a multi billionaire but they still sell computers. I am proud of the program and think my rates are extremely fair considering the level of service provided. I have a challenge for you!: Challenge: Try my course for a month and come back on here and tell other gumshoes about your experience!
adam mesh says:
June 3, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Left out my favorite. Check out the date on this article. See where the stock market was and the stocks mentioned in it. Then look what happened:
http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/adam-mesh-squeeze/2009/03/05/id/328626
Visit http://www.adammesh.com to see us whenever we appear in the media.
Hi Adam
Sorry, I completely forgot about my post here. You sound like a sincere person, but I think you still missed my main point. I would think that your coaching staff would constantly be changing, because they would all be millionaires eventually using their own trading and money management skills. I would gladly take you up on your offer if I could pay 10% of any profits I make and if I lose money I pay nothing. That is truly “pay as you go”.
now I am up to 4 cents worth
paul
I did’nt get very far with them because of the high pressure sales.
It was a total turn off and red flag.
Nobody deserves to be treated the way I was.
I don’t care if there system works or not. I don’t want anything to
do with it.
Steve,
I’m not sure if that is your name as the last Steve anyone spoke to in my office was two weeks ago. It would be weird that this would then be written today. But we can agree on Steve :). Feel free to call me directly: 212-774-5977 if you would like to discuss anything. Please know this, I would probably make an extra 300% in revenue if I employed a call center like most people in the industry do. The reason I do not is because I do not want people that I have never met and don’t know what I am about, representing me or my company. Instead, to be a program coordinator, that would mean you have been trained by me and must work out of this office so I can see and hear everything going on. I am around all the time and have jumped on the phone countless times to answer a question or just confirm I am really there!
I work very hard to maintain a top tier reputation and so does my team. The only downside of having a smaller, more distinguished team is that there are less people to answer the phones. So if you did ask for a call every month for a year as some people do and they asked you to please either make a decision or stop requesting a call then I don’t think that’s unreasonable. If you feel that someone was rude though, I do apologize and would be happy to speak with you. As always, I want to be counted on for the highest quality, highest level and most professional service . Please let me know how I can help and any questions you may have.