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By gina, February 7, 2013

Has anyone subscribed to the Ultimate Wealth Report from Newsmax and written by James Rickards and Bob Wiedemer? This seems to be a new publication and I wonder if anyone has any thoughts about it. How would you rate it? It’s being highly advertised but I wonder if they’re just using scare tactics. Any thoughts would be very appreciated.
Thanks.
Regina

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Mike Kegel
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Mike Kegel
August 27, 2013 3:38 pm

The most important Biblical financial principle is tithing; if I don’t trust God enough to give back that 10% (which is His anyway), how can I expect Him to bless my finances? We went through Dave Ramsey’s Financial Peace course, and are following his advice on saving, getting out of debt, and smart investing. Sean is correct about greed, and using $$ to bless and care for others; however, if I’m not trusting God with my money, do I really trust Him at all? It’s ‘easy’ to trust God for things I don’t have now, or see now (eternal things), but to trust Him for today’s bills, food, rent, debts… that’s real faith, and that’s why tithing is the proof of one’s commitment to God.

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Happy
August 27, 2013 7:51 pm
Reply to  Mike Kegel

I understand the point your trying to get across but I think the 10% tithing limitation is from the Old Testament, before Christ.

Dave Radetsky
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Dave Radetsky
September 4, 2013 5:03 pm
Reply to  Mike Kegel

The Bible doesn’t teach a 10% tithe. If you study it correctly you’ll find out that 10% was a minimum and was in place of any national tax for Israelites. In the New Testament we find that giving is to be sacrificial. 10% is fine, but don’t look at it as a Biblical requirement. Also, I know Ramsey’s work quite well. Have been a financial counselor myself and his budgeting program is excellent. I disagree with his investment advice and a lot of people have been hurt with his mutual fund advice. I’d highly recommend his budgeting advice to anyone. But for investing I’d look elsewhere.

Regie
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Regie
October 4, 2013 3:27 pm
Reply to  Dave Radetsky

Tithe actually means a tenth but you are correct on 10% is a minimum

blessothers
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blessothers
November 21, 2013 2:08 pm
Reply to  Mike Kegel

The numbers would say that either Sean Hyman does not tithe or he only makes $500,000 a year. He states that he gives away up to $50,000 per year. This seems like a lot, but for a guru investor and the money he makes from his newletter, I would think he makes way more that $500k.
I agree the Ad is repetitvie, this is normal for marketing, that is how you get people to believe your story and buy your product — nothing at all wrong with that. I would like to be that good with my business.
Finally, I have not bought his products, but I understand the investing plan. Buy LOW. Sell HIGH.

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Eric Alter
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Eric Alter
August 27, 2013 8:41 pm

Please know that Sean does not make money from his investments. He makes his money from his subscribers. His last two services with his old company failed, which is why he is working for Newsmax now. Enough people will sign up for this current scam which will keep it afloat for a while. When Sean starts losing money for people (as all his services have done. Do some research on all of the services he is no longer a part of) subscribers will bail on his service and he’ll move on to the next one. This is all an internet marketing numbers game. You bring enough subscribers on until the so-called “investment guru” starts losing subscribers money and then you move on to the next “service.” I should know how this works. I’m in the same business. The fact that Sean brings God into this is shameful.

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theblindsquirrel
August 28, 2013 10:24 am

I just ran across this thread and frankly, I don’t know what to think. Are we REALLY spending time and effort here to (1) discredit or praise Sean Hyman, (2) discuss religion and it’s suggested interface with Wall Street, (3) try to discredit Fox News, and (4) toss stingers at one another for holding divergent opinion on topics where opinion is the only currency in which to trade – no facts available. Really? Is that what this website is about? I don’t think so.
If you want to have a discussion about the Bible and some mystic “code” it may contain on how to make money, go to church and start a discussion group. If you want to talk about the veracity of news stories on Fox vs. MSNBC, go to your favorite political website and fire away. If you want to beat up on or praise Hyman, just go ahead and reward him for his promotional efforts and sign on for a year to see for yourself – you can always cancel and get a refund. Personally, he’s of little use to me.
As for me, I LOVE this site and the work Travis does alongside Myron and Doc. We get a ton of good commentary and the occasional suggestions made here. Plus, we get some decent input from others of the Gumshoe Nation from time to time.
You want to do something that would, in my opinion, be truly HELPFUL in your efforts to become a better investor? Here’s two suggestions – both of which I participate in.
First, if you haven’t already done so, subscribe as an “Irregular” member right here on Stock Gumshoe. For a measly $49 a year you’ll get access to additional info that casual users of the site don’t have. It’s informative (do you know what Travis’ personal portfolio holds? I do.) and it’s interesting. Really .. $49 for a year? Do you have to think about that? That’s less than the cost of a dinner for 2 at Outback, and we all know what that dinner turns into 24 hours later. This information doesn’t do that.
Second, if you haven’t yet discovered it, get onto another website: SeekingAlpha.com . This is, somewhat like Gumshoe, open and free to anyone but also has a subscription feature called SeekingAlpha PRO. This is expensive and for very serious investors only – about $2900 for a year. But the recommendaions there can and sometimes do actually move markets. You get those advisories 72 hours before they appear on the website for everyone else and that can make a world of difference. My mama used to tell me that if I wanted hot bisquits I’d have to come early to the table. Good investment advice, although she had no idea that was what it would become for me later in life. The PRO feature serves hot bisquits.But using the PRO feature isn’t necessary for most of us. I don’t. The info on the regular site is sufficient for me for now.
The great thing about the site is that there are many dozens of “Contributors” that write up analysis on individual stocks and industries. Great stuff, very detailed, very informative. There folks are sharp – some professional, some just very, very good at peeling the investment onion.. You can “follow” them and see the stories they write which are full of useful analysis, data, charts, etc. New writeups are posted every day along with other news stories, etc. It’s almost like having 100 newsletters delivered to your inbox every day. And it has a “follow portfolio” feature that is second to none – the amount of info you get on positions you are watching or that you own is very deep and through. If you’re a serious investor, use them. It’s a perfect compliment to what is done here on Gumshoe.
OK .. now I sould like a shill myself. Just go to SeekingAlpha and use the thing. Once you figure out how to use it all these questions about hyped newsletter subscriptions will fall off the board.
That’s how I see it, folks. Leave religion and politics out of it, or at least take those discussions to places they belong. Let’s exchange IDEAS on companies and sectors and such and try to make some money.
Best wishes to all for successful investing ..
The Blind Squirrel
Jim Skelton

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hipockets
October 19, 2013 9:24 pm

Blind Squirrel speaketh the truth, my brethren. His parables are excellent recommendations and well worth taking as scripture.

I agree wholeheartedly with the information about SeekingAlpha. Their articles are timely and written very professionally, even though some of the authors might not be a professional.

If you are interested in a specific stock, you can search for it and find the latest daily information (52 week high and low, EPS, PE, Yield, etc.) along with a list of recent articles about the stock and a list of its competitors and how they compare to the stock in which you are interested and to each other.

As Blind Squirrel said, it’s very easy to follow all of the stocks in which you are interested. You can even set up different portfolios — for example, one for the stocks you own and another for those you want to keep tabs on. Just tell them the stocks, and as soon as an article is published you will be notified by email. You can also receive a weekly summary if you so desire.

All of this is free!

Another GREAT free site is http://www.investopedia.com/. They have:

A comprehensive dictionary of investing terms,

Many from-newbie-to-advanced articles (a recent one was about how to determine the risk level of an investment, another was how to analyze balance sheets),

An exhaustive list of technical analysis terms along with examples (there are videos for some of them), and

Dozens of tutorials on just about any investment topic you can name.

They even have an investing simulator to check out your ideas, and practice exams if you want to become an accredited investment counsellor.

And, like SeekingAlpha.com, it’s all free.

As far as signing up for a for-fee newsletter, my recommendation is: DON’T !

If you are new to this site, sign up to get the free newsletter and see what you think. After a week or two or three, if you like what it’s all about, join as an irregular. The pittance for admittance will be well spent – you will get a wealth of information from Travis and the supernatural powers of the Mighty Thinkolator. Quite often there will be informative comments from the members, many of whom are seasoned investors.

If you are just getting started in investing, you may be tempted to invest in a mutual fund because you are investing in more than one stock and someone else is making the decisions.

This is another DON’T – except for Fidelity. It’s strange, but there are more mutual funds than stocks – and the majority of them can, because of fees and loads and all too often poor management, actually make you lose money. However, many of the Fidelity funds have a very low fee coupled with no load or transaction fee.

You can search for the type of funds in which you might be interested at https://www.fidelity.com/fund-screener/fund-picks.shtml . Then use SeekingAlpha.com and Investopedia.com to seek out and further check on the Fidelity funds you think you like.

Another good site, but not as comprehensive as SeekingAlpha.com or Investopedia.com, is http://www.zacks.com/ . You can see their ratings of almost all the funds in the funds universe (and stocks, too) for free. I have found their ratings to be meaningful. Not all of thr site is free, however.

Now it’s time to say “ AMEN, Brothers and Sisters ! “ and pass the collection plate.

[ Hey, Blind Squirrel, please do not take offense at this, but I cannot resist the temptation to point out that many of the above posts (not yours but maybe even this one) are downright squirrelly! :>) ]

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triplec
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triplec
October 20, 2013 11:38 am

Nice!! I couldn’t agree more.
I do what you do.
Whats your opinion on Finviz.com

hipockets
October 20, 2013 7:13 pm
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I think it’s a great site, although I don’t go there often.

I like to look at their “Groups” page occasionally to keep up to date on how the various sectors are doing.

Their stock screener is the best I’ve seen. However, instead of screening for stocks that meet certain criteria, I prefer to find ideas through Gumshoe and SeekingAlpha and then research them on my own. There’s just not enough hours in a week . . . . :<(.To those who do not know about the site, they have a lot of features that are worth checking into.

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Bart
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February 18, 2015 11:10 pm

I STRONGLY AGREE with The Blind Squirrel. Do yourself a favor and re-read his post. No, really…I’ll wait. Yeah, it’s even better the second time around. The Blind Squirrel has 20/20 vision. If you decide to take his advise, you will save yourself years of frustration and LOTS of $$$. Investing for several years, I can tell you with confidence The Blind Squirrel is 100% correct. Well done, Sir…well done.

Tim Hillenbrand
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Tim Hillenbrand
September 3, 2013 6:07 pm

Interesting read on Sean …. Watched his video online when I saw the link on another news story page. His ‘theology’ is partially incorrect so do not attend his ‘home Bible study’ (although he has correctly stated it is the LOVE of money that is the problem-not money itself). I would gather, based on the corrupted theology, that he was possibly asked to leave his church? Sounds like a classic sucker pitch for Christians who seem to fall for these guys just because they espouse the Bible. Wakeup-the Bible says be shrewd as snakes and innocent as doves (another person here correctly said the parable of the talents is not about money).

Anyway, as stated by others, his capacity to rightly gauge the market shows in his returns (ALL investments combined). I did not review that but some one else said he is down 3.15%? If that is so, he isn’t very good. His basis of investment is sound-do the hard work to check out fundamentals, technical charts and sentiment. There are other ‘financial letters’ that do the same so nothing special here (I suggest you check out the Hulbert Digest which writes about all the major such investment letters (this one is NOT listed)). Note that most investors do not experience the same returns as these letter’s portfolios because they cherry pick stocks rather than invest in all the suggested stocks. Again, it is the gains of the full portfolio that show the proof of a good financial ‘guru’.

As others have stated, the way to approach these letters is for education. Take the time to read the classics “The Intelligent Investor” (Graham) and “Beating the Street” (Lynch) so you gain an understanding of value investing (which Sean proposes in a round about way). His apparent ‘value’ approach is good. Without knowing all he is ‘teaching’, the promo at least provides enough to whet your appetite with respect to how much you can possible LEARN about investing. His letter may prove to include beneficial information for learning how to invest.

Selling your service based on a few hot stocks that performed exceptionally well while the whole investment portfolio is down or no better than the S&P 500 index would convince me that this is a possible scam-so buyer beware. If you approach it from the education perspective ONLY (as opposed to ideas on what stocks to pick) a person probably cannot go wrong for the $20 for 6 months offer. You can always cancel if the info seems iffy.

Todd Templeton
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Todd Templeton
September 11, 2013 5:58 pm

The Ultimate Wealth Report gives solid, accurate information in a concise manner. I particularly like the fact that it gives the detailed data to support the positions taken. It makes it easy to verify the analysis through independent sources (something every investor should do for every single recommendation that they receive, regardless of the source). It is narrowly focused on value equities for intermediate and long-term investing. It does NOT give trading advice, only investment advice. It also does not cover ForEx trading, options, futures, or any other complex instruments. It is an excellent source of information as evidenced by the fact that my investment advisor is seriously impressed with the way I’ve position my portfolio and the performance that I’m getting. Sean Hyman provides an excellent service at a very, very fair price.

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jose villanueva
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jose villanueva
September 11, 2013 6:00 pm

i am new to stock investing,started Oct.2008 bought ford stocks when i heard that ford wasn’t going to ask for government bail out.to make the long story short i pulled the trigger at $1.01 a share about 10,000 shares.4 years later i was watching Sean Hyman on tv taking about best buy turn out he’s analysis were correct. in July 2013 i watched his video about biblical theory of investment and use the parables of the talents as a text.i subscribed for his ultimate wealth report.so far i am very please with his recommendations.i think an investor looks for someone that thinks like them.”birds of the same feather flocks together”.

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Thea
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Thea
September 11, 2013 6:44 pm

When I first listened to The Biblical Money Code, I wanted to believe it, but the skeptical part of me said not to. Then I prayed about it and contemplated it. I decided I didn’t want to study and learn all about stocks, but I wanted to try trading. So after feeling like it was the right thing to do, I blindly followed a guy named Sean Hyman. When I received the newsletters and updates I, again, was hesitant. But then I did it. I bought my first stock ever! Then I bought 4 more stocks over the next week. It has been 2 weeks since I bought my first stock and I have a gain of $500 already! I faithfully listen to Sean’s updates follow what he says. It’s easy and it’s for real!!!

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hipockets
October 19, 2013 9:55 pm
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Thea, it’s great that you have done so well so quickly, but you shouldn’t become too infatuated with Sean (or anybody else) to quickly. It’s very likely that at least part of your good fortune is in the timing of your purchases.

You have to remember that the market as a whole, and many individual stocks, have gone up appreciably since our elected officials finally agreed last week to not cripple our country by not raising the borrowing limit.

Every one of the stocks in my portfolio have gone up since Tuesday, 10/15. The overall gain is a tad over 12%. It wasn’t my stock picking as much as it was the whole market going up.

So don’t get carried away. You should always do additional research on stock recommendations from any source – not just Sean.

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Larry Gammell
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September 11, 2013 7:26 pm

I had some money and wanted to invest it for growth and preservation but didn’t know what to do. I started subscribing to different newsletters and found The Ultimate Wealth Report bySean Hyman. I am so thankful to have found Sean and have learned so much about stocks and the market. The monthly issues are very good and just full of info. More important to me is the Weekly Updates where he really gets to the heart and soul in teaching us why we are investing the way we are. Also the education behind these updates have made me a much more confident invester. I would highly recommend Sean Hyman and the work that he puts into his newsletter.

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Tim J
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Tim J
September 11, 2013 8:09 pm

great insight from a sound biblical perspective. i am new to the game, and sean’s detailed approach to investing is perfect! he definitely knows his stuff, and i would recommend highly to anyone looking to do real long-term investing!

David S
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David S
September 17, 2013 3:18 pm

I think a couple of readers had a good idea, it you want to try it. Pay the $47 for the year it’s subject to a full refund. Then create a dummy portfolio of his picks based on his market timing. See how successful he is.

If it doesn’t bear out, cancel the subscription and get you $47 back and go eat that dinner for two at Carrabas or Outback.

PS I listened to the long, long pitch on the NEWSMAX site… it is massively redundant.

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Andrew
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Andrew
September 22, 2013 9:27 am

I am a born-again Christian (I believe in salvation through faith in Jesus Christ, the Son of God) and a conservative one (I believe in the Creation and that abortion and homosexuality are sins and so on). I am also a Chartered Financial Analyst (google CFA Institute to see what this means). I would advised all fellow Christians to be extremely careful with the claims in these Sean Hymen videos and his related websites. Professionals in the investment industry will see through these claims immediately. But this comment is of course not helpful enough for non-investment professionals. So, look at this: with all his years in his business, you would think that he had analyzed lots of companies and sent out many many investment newsletters? Then the very fact that he selected a couple as illustrations (eg. Best Buy) is highly suspicious. If he is genuinely as good as he claimed, I would have thought that he would rush to tabulate systematically all his recommendations throughout all his newsletters against all the profits that could have been made, complete with dates and all necessary data for verifications, and show (nay, loudly proclaim) to the whole world, proving once and for all his superior investment secrets (or whatever). Otherwise, it is outright deception if he was right in 2 out of say, 100 recommendations and then tell us about that 2 while keeping quiet about that remaining 98. So, fellow Christians, be wise and do not be taken in.

Eric Alter
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Eric Alter
September 23, 2013 6:39 pm

People, please investigate this charlatan before handing your money over to him. He does not make money on his investments. He makes money from his subscribers. He used to work for an organization called the Sovereign Society. Both of his newsletters with them were losers. That’s why he no longer works there. Ask to see his previous track record. It’s terrible. The fact that he uses Christ’s name to scam people is shameful.

Felix
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Felix
October 11, 2013 6:04 pm

I just fell over the presentation and watched it out of curiosity.
The underlying idea of his Investment style basically Points toward the value-strategy. Graham, Buffett or someone younger: Phil Town.
What REALLY bothers me about the whole thing is: first, the repetitive way of presenting and second, the fact that, as an ex-pastor, who wants to spread his system only to help people, he CHARGES money. IF he was so successful with his investments, he would not have to take peoples’ money.
To me, it smells like a marketing-strategy cut out to scam christians.

Has anyone around here actually demanded and received the refund?

Felix
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Felix
October 11, 2013 6:06 pm
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Of course, as it is with personal views, I could be totally wrong and that guy is a truly honest fella…

Marian
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Marian
October 12, 2013 5:48 am

I’ve been involved in investing, in one capacity or another since the 1950s. I have never heard of trailing EPS (or is it trailing P/E ratios?)
Could someone enlighten me?

Thanks, – M.

Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe
October 15, 2013 11:10 am
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That’s a common valuation metric — trailing EPS is generally the earnings per share for the past four quarters in a row, the “trailing twelve months” or TTM, and the trailing PE is the current share price divided by that trailing year worth of profits.

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Tim Manley
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Tim Manley
October 15, 2013 11:03 am

Thanks people for all the thoughful comments. Each and ever one.
This is after all about an author that discusses God, the Bible, and Money so the topic of discussion can encompass a wide range of thought.
I tried to research this on the web and saw many so-called articles about him and his newsletter but alas they all included a link to his promotions. This seems to be common with this type of product. I would like to point out as well that although the cost of this newsletter is comparatively inexpensive (i don’t subscribe to ANY paid newsletters), if you take that cost and multiply it times his claimed 57,000 members you will realize he is making a killing from this.

moorethoughts
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moorethoughts
October 17, 2013 9:58 am

WOW! You can certainly see and hear the bias and anger that some bring to their discussion on Sean’s newsletter. Hope they don’t trade with that kind of emotion!!! Here are the facts from my experience (I joined on August 2 this year — a two year subscription for $109, which includes printed copies of monthly reports delivered to my home via USPS). I have bought and took profits on 7 of the positions he recommended for an APR gain of 62.44%. I purchased VALE at $13.81. As of 9:34 am, it is $16.54, a gain of 19.4% (an APR of 94.4%). I currently have 17 of his recommended positions in my portfolio with a 15/2 gain/loss ratio. If I were to liquidate all 17 positions today I would realize a 6% gain in just 75 days; that’s a whopping APR of 29.2%! Obviously, past performance does not guarantee future results, but I am well satisfied with his stock trading philosophy. It is a conservative approach that seeks to minimize risk (not eliminate it) through sound research of fundamentals, technicals, and sentiment. Oh, VALE is up to $16.63!

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moorethoughts
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moorethoughts
October 17, 2013 10:16 am
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Here’s a footnote comparing the DJI with the 17 positions I have taken from Sean’s recommendations. At 10:10 am, the Dow is down 0.6% and my positions are up 1.2%. “Just the facts, mam!”

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kycautious
kycautious
October 17, 2013 5:16 pm

I too have had great results with Sean Hyman’s Ultimate Wealth Report. He is a contrarian investor, that buys low P/E and high market cap stocks, with large amounts of cash on hand, that are down in price, for one reason or the other, & when most analysts hate the stock. The analysts probably hate them because they bought when it was a high price and now it is low price. You must have patience with this technique for the stock to get into good graces again, but within a 12-18 time frame, you should see profits. I joined in early July 2013, and I bought the following based upon his recommendations. And based upon today’s results, October 17, 2013, in just 3 months, the big winners are:
AAPL, up 20%
ECA, up 5%
FCX, up 19%
FXI, up 10.5%
MT, up 42%
TCK, up 19.5%
TOT, up 15.7%
VALE, up 30%
all the other positions I have from his recommendations fall in the -4% to +4% range in the same 3 months and I’m holding them, expecting good returns on these too. I’m sold on his detailed business & chart analysis.

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Lukito
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Lukito
January 7, 2014 2:05 am
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VALE if you buy on bottom 9 Oct 14.9 then sell 17 Oct 16.83 profit 1.93 = 28.7% in 7 trading day. It’s timing luck

Eric Alter
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Eric Alter
October 17, 2013 10:06 pm

People, please investigate this charlatan before handing your money over to him. He does not make money on his investments. He makes money from his subscribers. He used to work for an organization called the Sovereign Society. Both of his newsletters with them were losers. That’s why he no longer works there. Ask to see his previous track record. It’s terrible. The fact that he uses Christ’s name to scam people is shameful.

kycautious
kycautious
October 18, 2013 12:00 pm
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I don’t know what investment strategy Sean Hyman used in those other newsletters, but in the Ultimate Wealth Report, he uses, as I said before, a contrarian strategy, which appeals to me. I am an investor to make money to increase my retirement account. When I buy good companies at or near their lows, that makes sense to me. It makes much more sense than buying stocks that have already caught fire and take the chance that they will go up further. I am not investing to analyze a person’s faith or the fact that he makes his money through subscriptions. His investment strategy is working for me based upon the huge gains I have already made in the last three months. And I plan to depend upon most of his recommendations until I am proven wrong.
Thanks for your concern, but I’m sticking with the Ultimate Wealth Report and Sean Hyman and, of course, Stock Gumshoe. And for growth & dividends, I like the Dividend Machine written by Bill Spetrino.

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Jeff Cooper
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Jeff Cooper
October 18, 2013 5:29 pm

The people saying they have been making huge gains from Sean Hyman are lying. His newsletters have failed wherever he has been. Do a little research on him before sending him your money. Talk to the people at the Sovereign Society where he used to work. They will tell you the truth about this guy. He’s no different than those scam preachers on TV using God’s name to make money. It’s really shameful. He doesn’t make money on his investments. He makes money on all of the suckers who subscribe to his newsletters. Don’t let yourself become one of the suckers.

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Ron Moore
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Ron Moore
October 19, 2013 11:17 am
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You paint with a broad brush, Jeff, while stating, “The people saying they have been making huge gains from Sean Hyman are lying.” Similar to Darrell Nation I signed up around the first of August. I’ve already taken profits of over 62% APR on 7 of his recommendations (he did not recommend selling all of these positions; I just wanted to balance my portfolio a bit). I currently have profits on 15 out of 17 of his recommended buys for an APR or 32%. Now, if you will take your own advice and “do a little research,” you’ll find that these results are, indeed accurate. Just look up the price of the stocks on or around the end of July and the first of August, compare them to the closing prices this past Friday and you’ll see for yourself. But, alas, it is much easier to say everyone is lying!

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kycautious
October 19, 2013 2:48 pm
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Thank you for your well stated response, Ron. I was having a difficult time responding to someone saying I was a liar. That’s a new one for me. BTW, I am not even aware of all the talk about the religious statements made by Sean Hyman advertising. I’ve gone back and looked at his monthly newsletters I receive and the only reference to God is his sign-off salutation, just before his signature, where he says, “God Bless!” That does not sound like a fanatic to me. I think people would be better off looking at his recent investing results.

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sagenot
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sagenot
October 19, 2013 10:19 am

Sorry I missed this discussion about Sean’s letter. I’ve asked Sean to explain why it costs $50. extra for the hard copy of his fine letter. Either he doesn’t get this correspondence or his mktg. people ignore same. There must be 50+ market letters out there that will give you hard copies for $39./yr., it’s normal really. Yes, most then hike the price at renewal time, but the more efficient letters have 2 yr. subscriptions that save you even more $$.

If Sean researches this himself, I think he discovers why his sub. rate isn’t as high as it s/b. He is both a tech guy & a fundamentalist, not all advisers can handle this dual role.

Great column Travis, a blend of interest that helps your folks in their decision making.

Ron Moore
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Ron Moore
October 19, 2013 11:27 am
Reply to  sagenot

“Sagenot,” that’s an interesting compound word that should never be applied to someone who is a seeker of wisdom! But to the point. There must be some misunderstanding somewhere because from my recollection the cost of getting hard copies via USPS was something like $8 to $12 extra per year, not anything near the $50 you mention. That price may have only been available at the initial subscription for the newsletter, I don’t know. I just know that I didn’t pay anything close to the $50 you mentioned.

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October 19, 2013 12:07 pm
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https://www.newsmaxstore.com/newsletters/uwr/economist.cfm?promo_code=132DC-1

$47. + $50. = The $97. that The Ultimate Wealth Report costs if you want that hard copy of his letter, it has nothing to do with USPS Ron.

I was once a member of The Motely Fool (I’m a 20yr.+ veteran of Wall St. + being a CTA, CPO, Trading Floor Mgr., etc.) Almost every MF advisor has a “Not” after their MO. So my nickname of Sage became SageNot, & yes you need a contrary sense of humor when dealing with Wall St. types. I think Travis would agree.

Good Investing Ron!

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October 19, 2013 11:21 pm
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Thanks for the link, Sagenot. I checked it out and found that it was different from the one I saw and responded to. From reading all the different statements from different subscribers and others who have come across the advertising, it’s apparent that there quite a few DIFFERENT price structures out there, depending on what advertising message was seen and when it was seen (pardon the run-on sentence; they’re faster and easier to write!). I guess that is to be expected as all these SPECIAL OFFERS are designed to be time sensitive and probably targeted as well. Anyway, thanks for the explanation about “Sagenot” because I really thought it came from a humble heart and was a good play on words — which I suppose could still be true!

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