Is There a Common Theme in Alternative Medical Therapies?

Doc Gumshoe: Will Supplements That Contribute to Health Actually Cure an Illness?

By Michael Jorrin, "Doc Gumshoe", June 22, 2013

[Ed note: if you’re new to Doc Gumshoe, this is our break from investment chatter: He’s our favorite medical writer and he shares his contrarian and thoughtful commentaries with us every now and again. Any opinions and assertions are his own.]

It all starts with an unassailable truth: the healthier you are to start with, the better your odds of fighting off a whole range of illnesses, from Addison’s Disease to Zollinger-Ellison syndrome. The essentials of staying healthy are not deeply mysterious, and if I listed them here, you would likely emit a groan and move on to something more interesting. But another truth, unfortunately also unassailable, is that for most of history, the emphasis in mainstream medicine has been not on keeping people healthy, but on treating sickness. People go to the doctor, not when they want advice on how to stay healthy, but when they are sick. The first medical question the doctor wants an answer to is, “what’s your principal complaint?” If you don’t have a principal complaint, why are you here?

Yes, there have always been wise doctors who stressed staying healthy, and recently health maintenance has been increasingly emphasized by all manner of medical bodies – government, academic, professional organizations, and voluntary groups. Take high blood pressure – hypertension – as an example.

The JNC7 Catechism

The Joint National Committee on Prevention, Detection, Evaluation, and treatment of High Blood Pressure (widely known as the JNC) has, in its past several treatment recommendations, emphasized “Life Style Modifications” as the treatment for persons having what they now term “prehypertension.” Here’s how they classified blood pressure in their latest recommendations:
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[The Seventh Report of the Joint National Committee on Prevention, Detection Evaluation, and Treatment of High Blookd Pressure. JAMA 2003;289:256-71]

And here’s how they say prehypertension needs to be treated:

“Prehypertension is not a disease category. Rather, it is a designation chosen to identify individuals at high risk of developing hypertension, so that both patients and clinicians are alerted to this risk and encouraged to intervene and prevent or delay the disease from developing. Individuals who are prehypertensive are not candidates for drug therapy based on their level of BP and should be firmly and unambiguously advised to practice lifestyle modification in order to reduce their risk of developing hypertension in the future (see Lifestyle Modifications).”

This is what they say about Lifestyle Modifications:

“Adoption of healthy lifestyles by all persons is critical for the prevention of high BP and is an indispensable part of the management of those with hypertension. … BP is also benefited by an adoption of the Dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension (DASH) eating plan, which is a diet rich in fruits, vegetables, and lowfat dairy products with a reduced content of dietary cholesterol as well as saturated and total fat. … Dietary sodium should be reduced to no more than 100 mmol per day (2.4 g of sodium). Everyone who is able should engage in regular aerobic physical activity such as brisk walking at least 30 minutes per day most days of the week. Alcohol intake should be limited to no more than 1 oz (30 mL) of ethanol, the equivalent of two drinks per day in most men, and no more than 0.5 oz of ethanol (one drink) per day in women and lighter weight persons. … For overall cardiovascular risk reduction, patients should be strongly counseled to quit smoking.”

What Happens in the So-Called “Real World”

So here’s what happens, at least quite a lot of the time: our patient walks into the doctor’s office, and his blood pressure is 135 over 85. (I made our patient a man, because men are more likely to have high blood pressure than women.) The doctor tells him, without a whole lot of conviction, that he has “prehypertension,” and that he needs to do some lifestyle modification. (I should note here that the concept of “prehypertension” has not had a lot of take-up in the clinical community; most docs have a reasonably good notion of which of their patients are at higher risk for developing established hypertension and which ones can continue in the “prehypertension” range without progressing to the real thing.)

Our patient already knows what’s coming: more exercise, less yummy food, less booze, no smoking. He knows he should follow that plan, and he hopes he’ll have the strength of character to, by gosh, just do it! And maybe, at first, he sort of does follow it. But the problem is, he feels absolutely fine. He has no symptoms, and therefore no regular incentive to stay with the program.

Okay, a year or two later he’s back at the doctor’s, and now his BP is 150 over 95, and the doc tells him that he now definitely does have hypertension. The doc asks him, perhaps more out of duty than really wanting to know, whether he has stuck with his lifestyle modification plan. Maybe he weasels, maybe he fesses up. The doc knows, however, that the chances are that our guy has not stuck with the plan. So now the doc tells our patient that he has got to get on that plan and stick with it, and he’s going to prescribe an antihypertensive drug to go along with it.

Now he’s facing the prospect of being on an antihypertensive drug for the rest of his life. Or maybe two, or even three different antihypertensive drugs.

The Alternative Treatment “Solution”

Then, this pops into his in-box:

“SECRET REVEALED: Lower Your Blood Pressure
Without Medication”

“How to Lower Blood Pressure Naurally Once & For All!”

“Top-Secret Ingredient From the Deep Sea Found to
Naturally Lower Blood Pressure
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Skipping down a bit, there’s this …

“Big Pharma and conventional regimens will have you confused, over-medicated, and frustrated because you aren’t treating the major triggers of elevated blood pressure.

Not only do you lose time and money, you end up losing faith that there are answers.

Here’s the secret: you lower your blood pressure by reversing the major triggers of elevated blood pressure at the cellular level … and by inhibiting the #1 Blood Pressure Enzyme.”

Of course, there’s a link to a video, which starts off with this banner headline:

“Deep Sea Secret Scientifically Proven
to Fight Real Cause of High Blood Pressure
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Then follows a little line warning you that the 25% savings expires tomorrow. No matter when you click on the link, the 25% savings always expires tomorrow.

The video continues:

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Okay. The video goes on and on, and eventually – eventually! – it reveals what the ingredients are in this amazing miraculous cure:
The first is …

“Seanol™: An extremely rare seaweed extract (from Ecklonia Cava) proven 100 times more powerful than any land-based antioxidant.

Over 15 years of research and nearly $40 million worth of clinical studies back it up.

It’s the only FDA-approved Ecklonia Cava marine-algae extract in existence.

Not Only is Seanol More Potent… It Stays In your body 12 Hours, compared to Land Based Antioxidants that work on for 30 minutes…”

The second is …

“Super Ingredient #2:
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A deep-sea omega-3 discovery that blows away every fish oil in existence!

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  • Mood swings or depression”

… and the third is …Vitamin D3!

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It’s never been done before, but we’re bringing you the first age-busting formula that combines Seanol and Calamarine.

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Why D3?

Because it also includes a superior form of vitamin D…

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Well, we can easily see why our patient would be sorely tempted by these blandishments – live to 120 in good health, why not? And the ingredients in this remedy all sound on the up-and-up – an antioxidant, a source of Omega 3, and Vitamin D3. These couldn’t be bad, and who knows, they might even help with his hypertension.

For the moment, I won’t go into the reservations that have been raised about the effectiveness of antioxidant supplements. I will do no more than suggest that those evil free radicals that they’re supposed to counteract may indeed have some necessary function, and that perhaps we shouldn’t be in a hurry to extirpate then utterly. (There will be more about that in a future commentary.) But here’s the issue:

Will Supplements That Contribute to Health Actually Cure an Illness?

We’re in agreement that the better a person’s baseline health, the better his or her chances are of warding off all manner of illness and disease. But once that disease raises its ugly head, will taking steps that contribute to overall health do much to reverse the course of the disease?

Let’s go back to high blood pressure as an illustrative case. The pathophysiology (medicalese for the processes that lead to the illness) of hypertension is complex, and I’m sure you don’t have the patience for a digest of Braunwald’s 2000 page Heart Disease text. But let me present a simple example of a common cause of high blood pressure, and try to explain how it plays out.

Suppose a person eats a really salty meal. Here’s what happens: first, the concentration of salt in his (yes, it’s a guy again!) blood stream rises. As the blood passes through the kidneys, a precise regulatory process takes place. The sodium concentration in the blood needs to be kept at a constant level, so if it gets too high, the blood needs to be diluted by adding water – i.e., our patient gets very thirsty, drinks water, and the total fluid in his blood stream increases. But the total capacity of his circulatory doesn’t increase, so what happens is that the blood is under greater pressure – i.e., hypertension. Now, this hypertension could be temporary. The kidneys will then pass the excess liquid from the blood into the bladder, and into the toilet it goes, restoring our patient’s BP back to where it was before he scarfed down all those salty snacks.

During that interval, while he was having an episode of hypertension, warning signals were being sent from his circulatory system to his brain. Most large arteries have nerves which sense the pressure within the artery; these are called baroreceptors. The way they work is that when pressure increases in the artery, it stretches to accommodate the pressure, and the nerves stretch, and they send signals to the brain stem saying, “Do Something!” The brain then sends signals that reduce heart rate and relax arterial muscle tone, lowering blood pressure.

These baroreceptors work very well indeed, but for a short time only. When there are rapid changes in blood pressure, the signals go off quickly, at really short intervals. However, their function is short-term modulation of blood pressure. After as short a time as a couple of days, if blood pressure remains elevated, the baroreceptors stop sending these alarm signals, and accept the increased BP as the ”new normal.” This phenomenon is sometimes called “resetting the barostats.”
What that means is that if our patient regularly overloads on salt, his body essentially has no way of sensing that he has high blood pressure. His kidneys will do what they need to do to keep his sodium level at an okay concentration, but as far as blood pressure regulation, his brain now accepts that 150 over 95 is normal. It’s getting no alarm signals from the baroreceptors.

Other Mechanisms of Hypertension

I don’t want to leave you with the impression that every time you eat potato chips, you’re risking a lifetime of drug treatment for high blood pressure. Some people are more salt-sensitive in this regard than others; that seems to be particularly the case in people who are genetically programmed to retain salt, perhaps because their ancestors lived in parts of the world where salt was scarce. Another common mechanism is the renin-angiotensin system (RAS). Renin is an enzyme produced by the adrenal glands, adjacent to the kidneys. Renin eventually becomes a substance called angiotensin, which promotes constriction of the arteries, increasing BP, and boosts the heart’s pumping action, also raising BP. Some individuals are more renin-sensitive than others and therefore more prone to hypertension.

There are many effective and (by and large) quite safe drugs to treat hypertension. I’m not going to try to evaluate the different classes at this point, but if you would like to hear my personal views, please post a comment to that effect and I could devote a piece to those issues.
However, the bottom line here is that once hypertension is established, changing the lifestyle factors that led to hypertension isn’t going to do much to make it go away. Disease processes are in place, and these need to be attacked directly.

But What About Those Healthful Supplements?

Okay, that particular combination consisted of three ingredients, all of which actually do have some healthful credentials.

First, antioxidants. There is some evidence suggesting a connection between oxidative stress and factors that increase blood pressure, and at least one study reported that some hypertensive patients that took a supplement, pycnogenol, based on pine bark, were able to reduce the dosage of their antihypertensive drug by about 30% without their BP rising significantly. But so far data about this association is scant, and antioxidants vary all over the map, so on this front my guess is that treatment for hypertension with antioxidants of any kind is a shot in the dark. And data on the antioxidant in the “Marine D3” preparation, ecklonia cava, is slim.

Second, Omega 3 supplements. These do have a beneficial effect on lipid balance. They tend to raise HDL cholesterol (the good kind), lower triglycerides, and have a small effect on LDL cholesterol (the bad). People with elevated cholesterol frequently also have high blood pressure, but the two conditions need to be treated separately – fixing one doesn’t fix the other, so I don’t see Omega 3’s as an effective high blood pressure remedy.

Third, Vitamin D. Here the story is more interesting. There is strong evidence that persons with low levels of a hormone (calcifediol) which is metabolized in the liver from Vitamin D3, have increased cardiovascular mortality and increased prevalence of hypertension. The suggested mechanism is that Vitamin D3 may inhibit the RAS, through which heart rate and arterial pressure are increased. So you would think that taking supplemental Vitamin D3 might actually lower blood pressure. However, so far, evidence that it actually works as a treatment for hypertension is absent.

My bottom line: these supplements might well help to maintain health, but they’re highly unlikely to control established high blood pressure. Staying healthy and treating disease are two separate projects, and each one has to be addressed individually. This is not only true for hypertension, but for most other diseases, despite the rosy pictures painted by the merchants of alternative treatments.

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Let me remind you – “Doc Gumshoe” is not a physician. I’ve been a medical writer for 30 years or so, and, while I stick up for my capacity to understand the medical evidence as well as anybody else, I don’t give specific medical advice. Physicians treat human patients; I deal in scientific (I hope!) information. I am exceedingly grateful for any kind of feedback and can try to address specific questions. And if there are general topics that you would like to hear more about, please let me know!
Michael Jorrin (aka Doc Gumshoe)


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35 Comments on " Is There a Common Theme in Alternative Medical Therapies?"

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archives2001
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archives2001
June 22, 2013 8:13 am

Interesting comments Doc…
One subject to tackle next time is inflammation and the part it plays in all of this.
More and more research has come out disclosing it to be the # one etiology in
most cardiac and stroke issues.

Orva Schrock
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June 22, 2013 8:46 am

Thanks, Doc, interesting as always. Those who suffer from poor-health issues are often very vulnerable to the offerings of [perhaps well intended] quacks and greedy health/medical ‘experts.’
Your work undoubtedly saves some folks from disappointments and loss of money.

RICK PASEK
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June 22, 2013 9:53 am
TO TRAVIS..i have been on your sight for almost 1 year now..and i dont remenber when i joined your sight…so pls email me back and let me know when i joined your sight.because you have a v.good sight.and you tell people a lot for the price we have to pay the your sight..so pls email me back and tell me when i joined your sight..and also pls give me your address so if my 1 year is up…so pls again email me your address..so i can send you the 49.00 dollars…thanks again mr.thinkolater..TRAVIS…FROM RICK PASEK….my email is { rickpasek33@wowway.com }… Read more »
darvince
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darvince
June 22, 2013 9:58 am

Inflammation has been found to be required for soft tissue repair after an injury. However, inflammation left go unchecked does cause damage to the circulatory and nervous systems. A discussion on inflammation and how to identify it and how to control
would be very beneficial.

carroll richard
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June 22, 2013 10:08 am
Interesting article,I always enjoy reading about how people prey on other people’s desire to be healthy WITHOUT doing anything different other than taking a “magic pill”.The truth is in order to be healthy everyone needs to moderate what they eat,lower salt intake,exercise at least 4x weekly increasing HR to 50-100% over normal at rest,get a good nights sleep,do not smoke, and limit alcohol consumption. This is the only “true” way to be healthy and interestingly,most doctors and pharmacologists will tell you that supplements are at best dubious in their effect on the body’s mechanisms and that a good diet trumps… Read more »
Solyom
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June 22, 2013 10:09 am
When I was a medical student many years ago, we employed certain strategies no longer in vogue but which worked quite well. A common medication used back then (I take this for my hypertension) was hydrochlorothiazide. It causes the kidney to waste Sodium but also has the same effect on Potassium. Its effect on Sodium last longer than its effect on Potassium, so we would have the patient not take it on weekends (I don’t). It made my severe hypertension easy to control. I was never a big salt eater but now I use none and use KCl instead. When… Read more »
Donna Mackey
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Donna Mackey
June 22, 2013 10:29 am

A pattern of interest regarding all these ‘miracle’ supplements – how come most of them seem to have a base price of $39.99 for a month’s supply?
This seems to be what these marketers have discovered ‘the traffic will bear’.
And some of the most popular ingredients, such as Vit D3, cost literally pennies.
They often quote the aggregate price of taking theiingredients separately, but don’t ever seem to be looking for the best prices!

vivian lewis
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June 22, 2013 11:21 am
re: hydrochlorothiazide My late mother who died of a stroke and as a widow became was part of a trial of hydrochlorothiazide run by (Dr. Ralph; full name available if anyone needs it at Columbia-Presbyterian Hospital in New York). Mom was told to eat a banana every day to offset the drug which not only cut her sodium, but also her potassium. The banana replaced the potassium, apparently. I am not sure what her drug regimen was being trialed against or how she was designated for the trial. She had a mini-stroke at age 80 or 81 (I cannot recall… Read more »
Barb
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June 22, 2013 11:38 am
Hmmm…. your article is on target but your title seems off base…… alternative therapies are wide ranging (acupuncture, holistic, homeopathy) yet your main theme is supplements. While I agree that the marketing of magic bullets is rampant, that applies to western medicine as well as the vitament supplement industry . Your idea of the responsibility of the patient and his or her lifestyle is key. Yet we are bombarded in the media with the idea that the little purple pill (as example) can resolve the problem indicated and while encouraged to change lifestyle in the small print, the overall message… Read more »
Barb
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June 22, 2013 12:02 pm

Whoops….do “NO” harm but I guess you have to know the harm before you not do it…lol

who noze
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June 22, 2013 12:38 pm

imto was on hydrocthorizide until I developed gout no longer on hydro==

vivian lewis
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June 22, 2013 12:48 pm
what I was trying to say was that all the ethical lapses were not only by the vitamin peddlers with their $39.95. My mother was put on hydrochlorothizide for a trial without either her nor her daughter being briefed about the risks. Moreover Dr. Ralph did not meet the gold standard for trials because she and he both knew she was on hydrochlorothizide and not getting a statin. In a proper trial neither the doctor nor the patient knows which arm the patient is in. What I wonder is whether the counterpart 80-odd year old thin little old lady who… Read more »
vivian lewis
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June 22, 2013 1:13 pm
here is the only article I could find. Mom lived in Northern Manhattan and was among the c18% of patients there who were counted as European; she was born in Germany. Original Article Treatment of Hypertension in Patients 80 Years of Age or Older Nigel S. Beckett, M.B., Ch.B., Ruth Peters, Ph.D., Astrid E. Fletcher, Ph.D., Jan A. Staessen, M.D., Ph.D., Lisheng Liu, M.D., Dan Dumitrascu, M.D., Vassil Stoyanovsky, M.D., Riitta L. Antikainen, M.D., Ph.D., Yuri Nikitin, M.D., Craig Anderson, M.D., Ph.D., Alli Belhani, M.D., Françoise Forette, M.D., Chakravarthi Rajkumar, M.D., Ph.D., Lutgarde Thijs, M.Sc., Winston Banya, M.Sc., and Christopher… Read more »
Dusty
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Dusty
June 22, 2013 2:22 pm
Your mention of vitamin D3 touched a nerve. If you can, please publish a discussion of vitamin D/D3? I am well past ‘full’ retirement’ age. Had several severe, common, medical events in the standard age range times. Came to a stage where more things inside me seemed to be in a state of decline and was severely limited in what foods/liquids I could eat. I found something in one of those ads for a ‘miracle’ fix (probably on a car radio ‘infomercial’ ??) just like the patter you described at the beginning of your discussion today; that made me add… Read more »
Albert.
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Albert.
June 22, 2013 3:14 pm

Would you care to give a report on Hydrogen-Peroxide (H2O2) Therapy. ???

Gumshoe Gambler
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Gumshoe Gambler
June 22, 2013 7:04 pm
Well this is disappointing. Yet another shill for the cut-burn-and-poison school of treat-the-symptoms-maximize-the-expenses style of medical greed-mongering. The author states in the disclaimer that he’s not an MD, yet takes the exact stance approved by the AMA (which is a high-pressure, special-interest political lobbying group). The author assures us that, beyond a number established by the AMA, a person with elevated blood pressure CANNOT heal his ir her own body. Above 150? Too bad, sucker! NOW you MUST take our poisonous harmaceuticals for the rest of your LIFE. Your body has not ability to heal itself, no matter WHAT you… Read more »
hipockets
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June 22, 2013 9:10 pm

Hi, Doc Gumshoe.

‘Preciate your articles.

Immediately below the disclaimer in today’s article (“Is There a Common Theme in Alternative Medical Therapies?”) there is a cartoon (an ad, in truth) about “1 Tip for a tiny belly”.

The link takes the reader to a spiel about losing weight with Garcinia Cambogia.

Was the placement of this ad an example of Murphy’s Law, or does the medo-thinkolator have a sense of humor?

Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe
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June 23, 2013 12:16 am

Ha! Ads are served up automagically by Google, so everyone sees different ads, but we do sometimes see ads from the very newsletters we’re covering crop up next to the articles.

Sagacious
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Sagacious
June 23, 2013 1:51 am
Studies have shown that only about half the population is susceptible to blood pressure increase due to salt intake. Furthermore, the real issue is how much potassium a person ingests relative to sodium, which has a lowering effect on BP. Additionally, natural, unrefined sea salt contains many minerals which seem to render the salt quite innocuous in its influence on BP, unlike the high amount of white, refined table salt Americans consume. I know of an Alternative health physician (granted he is a vegetarian) who says he regularly consumes high amounts of Himalayan (natural unrefined) salt and his Blood pressure… Read more »
blackjack
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June 23, 2013 3:26 am

try cinnamon
i did and it works
lowered the sugar too

for inflammation go to turmeric – new studies prove benefits

theaccusersgift
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theaccusersgift
June 23, 2013 9:13 am
About vitamin D3: it’s better if you get it from sunlight during the spring, summer, and fall. Depending on how naturally dark your skin is, you need 15-60 minutes of daily noon-day sun (with no sunscreen). One investigator found regular sunlight exposure produces the following: 1) Vitamin D3 (fat soluable) 2) Vitamin D3 sulfate (water soluable) 3) cholesterol sulfate (water soluable) 4) Nitric Oxide (lowers blood pressure by expanding the arteries). 5) 5th yet undetermined substance that affects health positively. There may be more. Vitamin D3 supplimentation is only recommended by some doctors during the winter and sunlight during the… Read more »
Dusty
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Dusty
June 23, 2013 10:03 am

To: theaccusersgift:

Thank you. This is more definitive than most of what I was able to find. 15 to 60 minutes in the sun every day? I have never seen a timeframe for length of sun exposure of any kind before. Also, the additional things you listed are new to me. Not things that advance the agendas of most sources of information. I will struggle with Google limiting the search engine results to what they have paid ads to promote and see what I can find.

jonken
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jonken
June 23, 2013 10:44 am
A personal note on Vitamin D: I am well into my seventies. Recently I came under the care of a new urologist. The first thing I told him was “I started having calcium kidney stones over 50 years ago – passed most. However, I’ve had virtually none – certainly no large ones – for at least five years since an Endocrinologist had me take a once/week Vitamin D pill containing 50,000 I.U.” He raised his eyebrows, shook his head and could not explain the reason for those results. I’m still on the Vit. D. every Monday. Please don’t bother telling… Read more »
shueladi
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shueladi
June 24, 2013 8:52 am
I have been taking anatabine as anatabine citrate (trade name Anatabloc) in the unflavored tablet 3 daily and have had these results: BP dropped from 140/90 to 118/65( meds got it to130/80); an arthritic trigger finger is now fine which the chiro and the ortho docs said they couldn’t totally fix; a varicose vein in my foot no longer swells; an inflammatory bowel situation no longer has me living close the the bathroom. I know the improvements in these conditions are not cures as all the symptoms return when I am off my 3 daily for a week or so.… Read more »
Bob A
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Bob A
June 24, 2013 10:36 am
Bravo Travis….nothing like an article like this to bring out some strong responses. I am firmly in the camp of “good science” when it comes to medical and health issues…although knowing which is “good” and which is “bad” science is always a challenge. Most things I see or read appear to me to be based on conspiracy theories of one sort or another….drug companies, “big pharma”, doctors in collusion with….etc. etc. I feel pretty safe rejecting any of those sorts of pitches immediately. But it is hard to find good balanced consensus science based information sometimes because no one really… Read more »
John Harris
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John Harris
June 24, 2013 1:31 pm
You don’t need good science or vit. D or lower blood pressure. You need exercise. Sure a mostly vegitarian diet helps, and 100 mg of Vit D3 a day will prevent your next cold or flu. But if you are told you need statins, go take a long hike or better yet run as far away from that doctors office as possible. I suppose there may be rare individuals where exercise is not enough (I have never heard of it) but if you are anywhere near normal, If you run or jog 5 miles 4 days a week, heck even… Read more »
Michael Jorrin,
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Michael Jorrin
June 24, 2013 6:01 pm
A major part of the fun of doing these Doc Gumshoe pieces is seeing your varied & interesting comments, for which I thank you. A few comments in response: Several of you mentioned inflammation, a complex & important topic, about which I can’t do more than make a passing comment. But let me tell you, it’s usually not inflammation itself that’s the problem. Inflammation is a response to some kind of pathology – the body fighting off infection, or attacking a foreign invader, or sending scavengers to carry off dead cells, or trying to repair tissue damage, or a host… Read more »
rigdale
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June 24, 2013 10:29 pm
I had a heart valve repaired, but the others were also leaking, so I was tested for a heart transplant. I thought I would age out, 77 then, but they said I had young arteries and young veins. My kidneys knocked me off, they said I was within a week from needing regular dialysis. I was given a heart prescription which many people take, but for me, it took away my ability to breathe. I practice breathing all the time, whenever I think of it. I try to breathe in for 2 full seconds, out for 3. 2 years ago,… Read more »
denno
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denno
July 2, 2013 12:44 am

Eat garlic!

Robb Moss
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Robb Moss
July 2, 2013 11:44 am

Throughly enjoying your blogs, Michael. Can’t often agree, but am always amused, informed and interested.

Doug
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Doug
July 22, 2013 2:01 pm
A healthy amount of skepticism is a good thing. However, I have personally observed a close relation, who was given two weeks to live by board-certified medical specialists, and lived years longer due to judicious use of non-prescription supplements. As the saying goes “seeing is believing”, and I now believe that the vast majority of our US physicians are not properly educated on the medicinal use of non-prescription substances. That’s a shame, but also a reality, and nothing new. In the late 1940s, before the Salk vaccine, Duke University Medical School graduate Dr. Fred Klenner was curing polio cases with… Read more »
John Harris
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John Harris
July 22, 2013 3:52 pm
Intravenous vitamin C has a long history of curing most any bacterial or viral infection but alas most medical doctors have never heard of it or discount it for lack of double blinded randomized trials. But it can’t be patented so no one will pay for such trials. Finding a doctor that will offer it is tough but I have read the testimony of some folks who have and recall one saying anytime she feels a cold coming on she gets the intravenous Vit. C and it is gone. Indeed mega vitamin C orally (and I recommend lots of Vit.… Read more »
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Doug
July 22, 2013 6:54 pm
I read about one remarkable case from New Zealand in which a patient was on life-support due to flu, and his family was advised to disconnect the life support. Instead they absolutely insisted on massive doses of intravenous vitamin C, and the given-up-for-dead patient walked out of the hospital several weeks later. My physician daughter advises me that so far only one patient is known to have survived rabies, and I can’t help but wonder if that fatal viral illness would also respond to massive doses of intravenous vitamin C. It seems there would be nothing to lose in trying.
Michael Jorrin,
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Michael Jorrin
July 22, 2013 4:57 pm
After Linus Pauling asserted that mega-doses of vitamin C would cure just about anything, there was a lot of close scrutiny on it’s efficacy. Unfortunately, about 15 clinical studies came up motly empty. Currently, 60 clinical studies are being conducted on Vitamin C in cancer, including prostate, pancreatic, colorectal, liver, multiple myeloma, non-Hodgkins lymphoma, uterine cancers, includng in patients who have not responded to all other current treatment. Many of these trials are being done in academic centers, for example, the University of Kansas is studying intravenous vitamin C in cancer. Pub Med lists 1794 published papers that discuss cancer… Read more »
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Doug
July 22, 2013 7:41 pm

Vitamin C isn’t known to cure cancer, but IP6 (Inositol hexaphosphate) just possibly might. Anyone who is concerned about cancer might wish to read a book by Professor AbulKalam Shamsuddin MD PHD (U Maryland Medical School), or else start with this free ebook by two of his admirers:
http://www.inocell.com/pdf/toogoodtobetrue.pdf

As Dr Shamsuddin writes, the government stopped researching IP6 after calling it “highly promising” because it didn’t fit their experimental protocol for chemotherapy: large oral doses instead of small intravenous doses , non-toxic instead of toxic, etc.

Best of health to everyone!

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