By jr9114560, November 17, 2016
Does anyone have information on the Stansberry ”Dirty Thirty List” ?
68 Comments on " Seeking Information"
I listened last night but can’t drop that kind of money. Was hoping to find some info here too.
You should pay for it. It costs money to make money. Work harder
“I worked for 32 years on Wall Street”
and after those 32 years do you need advice from anybody?
There are always new questions and new things to learn regardless of ones years of experience
You’re absolutely right, i worked on Wall Street for a number of years and more than half of these publications are BS plain and simple. If you plan on becoming rich from them guess again.
I am fairly certain Avis (CAR) and Canadian Natural Resources (CNQ) are on the list.
DNR, NBR, NBL, SU, WFT,
ENB, ETP, HCP, CLI, PAA, WMB,
Thank you for your reply
add DVN & LNG. Wouldn’t be surprised if TSLA is on there as well seeing some nibbles on the lower 1/18 strikes. Also, seeing buying in ALLY puts, used to be GMAC. PS loves to recycle research papers and presentations more than I did in college.
ALLY, TSLA yes
COF, DVN, LNG no (but Dirty Thirty-three wouldn’t have had the right ring to it)
HTZ, AKS, AVP, S, VIAB = 30
As someone who has the full list, I can tell you for certain that 5 of the symbols so far discussed above are NOT on the list…
Here are the 30: DDR,GGP,JCP,TCO,VNO,WPG,CNQ,DNR,NBR,NBL,SU,WFT,ENB,ETP,HCP,CLI,PAA,WMB,ALLY,GM,NAVI,SC,CAR,F,HTZ,TSLA,AKS,AVP,S,VIAB. Plus, I’ve seen LNG (Cheniere) mentioned as a Dirty Thirty but not on the original list of 30. Def put on your radar as they have $20b in debt and low revenue.
Thank you Andrew for the solution and criteria.
Thank you jr9114560 for establishing the thread.
Happy Thanksgiving week and beyond ALL! ~ Ben
I must have subscribed to a different service because my Dirty 30 list is different! Are you a decoy posting symbols to take heat off the real list of 30?
Porter said that the list would evolve. I expect changes
I think anyone who make money off this list should help Andrew pay for his monthly maintainance of the newsletter
Agree with your list, Andrew.
Peter, I have the exact list as Andrew. It would be interesting to see the 5 you have that are not on our lists.
Won’t general publication of the list benefit the Stans subscribers who got in first? what am I missing?
Caution! These 30 outperformed the mkt YTD so you’re fighting their momentum. (26% vs 8% for SP5000. Choose carefully…
True! I’ve bought about 8 or 9 of the positions we’ve guess on and they’re underwater at the moment. Be patient, people. The Trump rally may cause them to raise the recommended strike prices for these turkeys.
To sum it up you’re buying put-options on these companies, but what’s the time-frame suggested? 1 year from now?
What you’re essentially paying for is their research to know exactly WHEN the debts on these companies become due. It certainly isn’t about buying puts on every one. Each month they release info on exactly which puts/strike/expiry etc to purchase, based on when the debts are due to go bad… some are long dated, others short dated. If you get that bit wrong you’ll probably lose all your money.
Yeah, that makes more sense 😉 Thx
I agree completely. I too am finding it difficult to figure out when each company has its debts due. Any Venmo or bitcoin users interested in coordinating a shared account?
Or anyone in the Los Angeles area interested in sharing an account?
I would join and share in the cost.
I would also join to share in the cost. Doing it alone is to costly.
I am having trouble accessing this group. Do you have it set to private? Thanks in advance, and also FYI Porter is closing the Big Trade tonight.
Email doesn’t seem to be correct?
Thank everyone for joining in. I think that most of the information was given
(other than when debt becomes due). It helped a great amount.
That is the only information to be interested in, John: when the debts are due for these overleveraged dirty thirty. Otherwise, as Peter mentioned above, the chance of losing money is very high.
I can’t find it on Google groups, either. More info, please.
Have requested to join the Google Group. Until you accept, we cannot post any comments in the group discussion.
I have requested to join the google group. It won’t let us post in the group until we join. Seems we have enough interest to legitimately share an account.
I saw that the service has been shut down to new subscribers. I will be happy to join you if the offer is still open,
I think that you can get the money from us and apply for the service. Let me know if this makes sense. All would just have to trust you. I have no problem with this.
I am willing to trust you. I see it if Warrenator buys it (or someone else does), then we send him the split before he sends us the newsletters/updates. I can’t imagine him not doing it. We’re investors, not thieves!
I do not quite understand what you hope to accomplish by sending SBT 3K…You have the tickers…
Now maybe the group can break up the research and come with a time frame on each company’s debt obligations, management, outlook, etc.
Great job Warrenator getting a group together.
Best2All ~ Ben
Check out some possible 10-baggers the Gummune bio-team is analyzing here: http://www.stockgumshoe.com/2016/11/such-a-pleasant-stay/
Becoming an Irregular at Stockgumshoe.com is THE best investment I’ve EVER made.
Thanks for the little “push.” I’m in 🙂
Are you using the same handle – warrenator?
Don’t forget to actually sign in – you can start accumulating thumbs up symbols now.
Yes, I am 🙂
HI I would like to get in on the shared info group if we can get enough people
I’ve tried to join but can’t seem to quite figure it out
Be careful of the symbols listed here… a plant feeding false info may be in the midst…
Peter, ha! I think (especially after this horrible election season) that everyone is aware of that possibility.
Now if you were Irregulars discussing PBT for example, and a mole was planting false info, that person would be challenged by someone who was researching the stock in question.
Warrenator, are still looking for an additional person in on the group? If so I’m in as long as we button up the details and obviously get approval from Stansberry!
We blew off the idea on a group subscription. S & A doesn’t allow sharing. Sorry.
warrenator – don’t forget to sign in to get credit for any likes to your postings!
Our group is nearly full and almost all members have paid up. If not completed by Sunday night, I can take 2 more members.
warrenator are you guys full on the SA group?
Couldn’t disagree with you more! I have been an Alliance member for a decade now (meaning i get access to every Stansberry service)… I have taken a $200k portfolio to over $950k during that period using NOTHING but the Stansberry recommendations (primarily Stansberry Alpha, True Wealth and Doc’s options service). The biggest gains came from seabridge, which I invested $40k in (turned into $320k and I banked the gains… it actually went even further, but I was very happy with the gains so I closed out a little early!).
Each to their own though!
I am sorry that I have not kept up with the posts, but, if you are still trying to find people to join the group, please let me know how to do it. There seems to be some confusion as to “if more people are needed or wanted” , who is going to lead the group, how is the information to be sent out and how do we pay.
Hi warrenator, fyi: To provide the link to a post click on the chain symbol of the post, which is located immediately to the right of the time-stamp…copy/cut and paste to location of new post. So your December 1, post at 2:14 pm LINK is: http://www.stockgumshoe.com/2016/11/microblog-seeking-information/comment-page-1/#comment-4909579 #Best2You&all ~ Ben
I don’t know if people saw this reply post from Noble Leader Warrenator a few days ago:
Or anyone in the Los Angeles area interested in sharing an account?
November 29, 2016 1:37 pm
I’d be interested. Ideally a group w/ a max of 10 people (just $300 bucks that way!) could be created; maybe a Google group?
Irregular (yup, he’s an Irregular now)
December 13, 2016 8:21 pm
No can do, folks…they won’t allow it.”
But in the words of my most unfavorite saying, “There’s more than one way to skin a cat.”
A reader asked that some of his/her comments be removed, which messed up the order a bit. Sorry for the confusion.