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written by reader Gold and Silver Government Rebate: Rule 214(a)(5)

By rjmort, February 18, 2017

Start collecting up to $294 for every ounce of gold you own today!
I’m thinking that this pitch by Uncommon Wisdom Daily, a Division of Weiss Research Inc. is a self storage precious metals IRA.
Any thoughts about what this might be?

https://www.uncommonwisdomdaily.com/reports/grh/loophole/sq2/?ccode=&em=&sc=DARON&ec=7422101

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guanabara
guanabara
February 19, 2017 2:01 am

listening to the recording they call it a loophole on an uncommonwisdomdaily report. They call it a rebate for the gold or silver coins or bars you have. It sounds one those creative ways to get people to buy reports or Numismatic coins subscriptions or to buy “rare” coins at “historic” low prices. Interested to hear what others have to say about this.

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Jeff
February 24, 2017 11:33 am
Reply to  guanabara

I never listen to those videos. If I click on a link and it goes to video, I close it” Sure you want to close this page?”YES!! Then I mark it as spam and delete the email. Videos are a waste of time. Then I look it up on Stock Gumshoe!!

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ABryan
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ABryan
February 19, 2017 10:09 am

I bought into it, paid what I thought would be $49, but was charged $89 . Generally those videos that go on and on taking an hour to tell you what they could on 5 minutes are questionable at best in my opinion. Tarnished Weis research. Haven’t read downloaded report yet. Have to log in to finish download.

jmrsad
jmrsad
February 19, 2017 9:56 pm
Reply to  ABryan

Please post what you find. I’ve googled around and can’t find any reference to the purported rule. Curious.

Patricia
Member
March 13, 2017 9:10 pm
Reply to  ABryan

Write to them for a refund. That would be my suggestion.

Suzanne
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Suzanne
March 21, 2017 8:36 pm
Reply to  ABryan

After reading all these posts I’m hesitant to buy. Does the booklet actually have docs. om what and where to file ? or just scammish ?

prairierick
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prairierick
April 7, 2017 1:21 pm
Reply to  ABryan

It’s now April 7th. What did you find out?
Please post

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James Crane
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April 12, 2017 1:21 pm
Reply to  ABryan

what did you find out

Bob
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Bob
February 19, 2017 7:55 pm

A rebate? Or a trick to get the owners of Gold/silver to disclose their whereabouts. Not a good idea.

Sharon
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February 20, 2017 2:04 am
Reply to  Bob

You could always say that you sold it, right?

leslie7
leslie7
February 27, 2017 2:23 pm
Reply to  Sharon

Sharon,

I suppose you could, but wouldn’t some government agency (IRS?) want to see proof of the sale or proof that you paid taxes on any profits? I don’t see the sale being a big issue now (other than a possible tax issue), but suppose in the not-too-distant future the government prohibits or limits the sale of gold or silver or puts a huge capital gains tax on such sales…or tries to confiscate one or the other (as with gold in 1933)?

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Patricia
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March 13, 2017 9:05 pm
Reply to  leslie7

Hi, I heard about this from Larry
Edelson who is supposed to be an expert. I like you am scared that in the future the government will try to conficate my gold & silver. AT present they have no record of it.

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Conrad
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February 24, 2017 8:20 pm
Reply to  Bob

My very first thought….let’s all tell the Govt how much precious metals we own!
I’d rather have “Double secret probation” than the secret Rule 214(A) (5) hogwash!

leslie7
leslie7
February 27, 2017 2:19 pm
Reply to  Bob

Bob,

I was thinking exactly the same thing! Even if it wasn’t intended/created to disclose the names of those who own gold and silver, it sure WILL do that. How can they send you your “rebate” unless you have told them exactly how much gold and silver you own and where to send the check?

If I had any precious metals, no way would I sign up for such a rebate, even if it is “legit.” It reminds me of the “stings” that police and government agencies use to round up people/information.

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Steve
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February 21, 2017 11:51 am

I receive their newsletters, most of which are marketing ploys to get you to subscribe, buy, invest whatever. For me it’s perspective on a few subjects. This had me intrigued and I emailed them back asking the same question that Bob alluded to. Why in the world would anyone disclose what they have???!!! Even if I had any I wouldn’t tell the government anything. My word. Still, I’m curious and I’m trying to research 12 USC et al for any hint. More to follow… hopefully.

Suzanne
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Suzanne
March 21, 2017 8:38 pm
Reply to  Steve

Wondering if you were able to find or use this tax rebate ?

rosie socha
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rosie socha
March 9, 2017 2:19 pm

Did a little research and found that this relates to IRS tax reporting rules, specifically Section 214(a)(5) which is a predecessor to Section 1091(a). Both are related to IRAs and computing losses, figuring the cost basis of assets, etc. I didn’t bother to go further as, for me, it’s not useful information.

Ken
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Ken
March 15, 2017 9:13 am

I received a mailing from Uncommon Wisdom Daily claiming that I could receive a Rebate on every ounce of Gold and Silver I own (Rule 214(a)(5)). I just had to subscribe to their Newsletters to receive the literature on how to capitalize. I’ve been researching this ‘Rule’ on the Internet but can find nothing. If this was real, I think it would be accessible information. It’s not, and therefore strikes me as a scam to get me to subscribe.

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guanabara
guanabara
March 16, 2017 11:01 pm

it seems it is related to recovering costs incurred with sales tax where applicable when selling the holdings. It does not seem that anyone would be able to benefit if they kept their holdings. As usual this seems to be another tricky publisher with outrageous claims just to get people to sign up to their latest spin.

Evan Neumann
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March 18, 2017 5:05 pm

I would be willing to sign a contract giving 10% of the amount I receive from this program. Well worth it. I don’t hear of anyone, including Crooks, actually getting the money this program implies. Also, it occurs to me that no one on this forum has indicated they have gotten a rebate. Let me know and send me a contract whereby after I receive my rebate you will receive the 10% fee for your assistance. I really do not want to subscribe to the newsletter to chase this obscure proposition. First one to get a signed contract from me wins!

cnnn
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cnnn
March 20, 2017 5:05 pm

Sell your gold and silver put the money into an IRA, then buy gold stocks with it.

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deanbob
deanbob
March 23, 2017 4:46 pm
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A Roth IRA.

Robin Steel
April 17, 2017 12:27 pm

I guess that no one here has “gone to a gold dealer and filled out a few forms”…did any of you figure out if there are such “forms”? If so please tell us what forms you use to get the “rebate”…forms are available from the IRS, but you need to know what ones to use….as far as videos on email…you are right, just a waste of time before they want money for the “free” booklet. I would like it if it were true, wouldn’t you?

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