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Gold and Silver Moves

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12:31 am
October 14, 2009


Will

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spreadtrader said:

Great questions……and you have the answers (which we'll get to in a second Smile). I chose ABX because it jumped out at me. I didn't look at charts for the other miners you listed. Depending upon your own analysis you could definitely apply this trade to other stocks (not just metals, either). But remember, you have to be content with the possibility of owning whichever stock you select in whatever quantity and at whatever price you choose for selling the puts.

In order to be thorough, you should definitely compare the basic idea with other candidates. Let's focus on two of the three you mentioned…..GG and KGC. Between ABX, GG and KGC how do you tell which of the three would be the best choice of the three to do this trade presently, using P&F relative strength analysis????? (Ain't this fun? Laugh)

I'm no expert at P&F, so let's turn this into a teaser. Which of these three stocks would be the best bet from a RS perspective using the P&F method? (I know which one I'd pick Wink).

After we pick the stock, we'll do the options……we have some time.



ST:

We have picked the stock. Of the three GG is the strongest. Actually GRS is even stronger.

I had previously posted the following:-

GG's charts seems to hit resistance at 42/43 and has support at 37/38. Seems like this would be a candidate for a similar strangle strategy. Would  a Jan 45 call at $3.10 plus a Jan 38 put at 2.25 work? We can sell 5 Jan 34 puts to put some money in the bank.


Likewise, KGC's chart has resistance at 23 and support at 20. We can buy 1 Jan 26 call @ 1.35, 1 Jan 21 put @ 1.45 for a total cost of 2.80. To cover the cost of this strangle, we can sell 3 Jan 19 puts @ 0.80 to recover 2.40.

Finally, GRS options expires in Dec 09, or Mar 2010. Seems like either too soon or too far away.

Today, all three busted through their resistance line with gains ranging from 1.6% to 3.07%. From DWA, GRS is the strongest, followed by GG, ABX, and KGC. So shall we devise a strangle for all four.

For GRS, buy 1 Dec 12.50 call for 0.15 and 1 Dec 7.50 put for .30. Total cost of spread is 0.45. Sell 4 Dec 5 put for 0.10 each to cover the cost. (Actually, there are no bidders for this put so it may not work outFrown).

10:50 am
November 7, 2009


Will

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Post edited 11:08 am – November 7, 2009 by Will


Will said:

With all that is going on in the precious metal market, I think it is time for a status update. I went through some old posts and came up with a list of gold, silver, and commodity stocks.

ILVCA, CMIN, MNEAF, NAK, OSK.TO, ZINC, TC, EGI, GBG, FCX, IVN, GG, ABX, KGC, GRS, TGLDX, UNWPX, and USERX.

I suggest we split this list up and take a few for further research and update each other on this forum. I will take GG, ABX, KGC, and GRS.

Hope we can get something going and be ready for Monday's opening. Happy researching.Smile


With gold having punched through the $1,100 psychological barrier, India having bought 200 metric tonnes of gold, Sri Lanka having announced their intention to follow suit, it is high time that we continue our research/dialogue on the above precious metal stocks.

It is interesting to note that while the price of gold had shot through the roof, gold mining stocks have actually gone down since October 10. Any explanations?

2:44 pm
November 7, 2009


perfectsim

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I got into GRS back in the lower 8's. As much as I hate to see the decline of the USD… I have some student loans to pay off and some large gains would really help me out.

9:54 am
November 8, 2009


Darrell

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Many were effected by market correction/pull back, I believe, however, many are still up and moving forward. Mining stocks are still low in my opinion and will regain and move up even more if the demand is still there or if the economy tanks.

10:39 am
November 8, 2009


dlst

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11:49 am
November 11, 2009


Will

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I think silver has some catching up to do. It has hardly moved while gold was making all-time highs everyday for the last couple of weeks.

On the other hand, Marc Faber is predicting gold will drop back to $800. If it does, that will be our last opportunity to buy.

http://www.moneynews.com/stree…..ode=90A2-1

7:12 pm
November 15, 2009


Will

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Post edited 7:12 pm – November 15, 2009 by Will


Despite efforts by Russia, Thailand, and others in buying up the greenback, gold continues to soar. On 11/15/09, it reaches 1125 on the 24-hour spot market. I think it is beyond just the weakness of the US $ that is causing gold to go up. I think a big portion of buyers are doing it as a store of value rather than mere investing so a few points up and down doesn't cause a panic selling and most of them are not interested in taking profit of 10~15 points.

Any comments?

1:50 pm
November 16, 2009


asafp

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Don't forget platinum. SWC up 15% today and still well below 2008 level.

2:43 pm
November 16, 2009


stockcrazy10

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Post edited 2:45 pm – November 16, 2009 by stockcrazy10


The SWC January 7.50 calls are up 58.33% today.  Surprised 


Thanks to spreadtrader for suggesting them…Laugh


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