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9:35 am
August 13, 2009


shredmonster

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Good Morning Pebbles (my smart ass term for people):


Favored Sectors by Relative Strength this week:  Forest Products/Paper & Media

Average Increasing:  Real Estate

Average Decreasing:  Gaming

Unfavored:  Restaurants

10:54 pm
August 13, 2009


candsrr

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new long term high for ny bullish %


http://stockcharts.com/def/ser…..c=$BPNYA,p

8:40 am
August 14, 2009


optimism

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One red flag under most circumstances is when the market trades well on relatively light volume. However, these are not normal times. Trying to make sense of it all using normal measures doesn’t work with conflicts everywhere, both technically and fundamentally. Beware the pundits who are making dramatic claims about the market because no one really knows for sure. If you have followed an advisor who has maintained a bearish stance throughout this entire run of over 50%, has it really been worth your time, and money? The market punishes stubbornness in both directions, and if you can’t learn to recognize change, you will pay dearly.

The traditionally low volume month of August could still see some dramatic moves, and given that the trend of the past 5 months has been up, the chances for further upside surprises are greater than the risk of a big decline at this time. The market will eventually correct, but the real surprise could be how high it gets before a significant decline occurs.

11:34 am
August 14, 2009


Darrell

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What are we seeing today ?? A ton of my stocks, almost 70%, are down and reports from these compamies aren't thatbad. Is this a correction or market selling in prep for Sept. downturn ?? Any ideas are welcome…profit takers ??Confused

12:15 pm
August 14, 2009


optimism

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Darrell, this still looks like a shallow pullback. With no crystal ball involved, the S&P could close above 1000 today. My main concern is the Daily Sentiment Index which recently reported that 88% of S&P traders are bullish. This reading is identical to that of Oct. 9, 2007. On that day the DOW made an all-time closing high of 14,164. A higher reading is still possible, however I would use extreme caution at the DOW 9655-9795 level.

In my opinion, this level could be reached by September where we may see a pullback of anywhere from 5-15% before resuming higher. Time will tell.


12:47 pm
August 14, 2009


Darrell

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Hope your right, but it seems that good news from companies is not even taken into consideration as I look at reports. We'll see !!Confused

6:31 pm
August 17, 2009


Will

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Market is brutal today. Lost about 2.6%. Just watched Martin Weiss's global forum over the weekend and they were extremely bullish about the BRIC countries, and especially China. Most of my positions were protected with puts but I still lost a bundle. I must be doing something wrong. Somehow, the value of the puts do not go up as much as the value of the stocks had dropped.

12:39 am
August 18, 2009


spreadtrader

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All of the major U.S. stock indices except the Russell 2000 have made near picture perfect Fibonacci retracements of their ranges dating back to October 2007. Look at weekly candlestick charts. The Dow and S&P have made 38% retracements, while the NASDAQ has made a 50% retracement. That these markets should find resistance and retrace here is perfectly natural. The fact is, the upward movement of these markets would still be on course if they retraced 38% to 50% from recent highs……and I'm eagerly awaiting that happenstance. It may not drop back that far, but I am certainly hoping so.

Bemoaning the daily fluctuations of the stock markets is a waste of emotional energy. In fact, real traders look at these times as the coming of new investment opportunities or a second chance at opportunities thought lost. Keeping a cool head now and making dispassionate decisions when the time is right will reward patient, disciplined traders.

Will, I hope you've been following the call option prices listed in the option “newsletter” thread on a daily basis. If so, you should already understand that option prices do not move exactly like the underlying stock price, at least until we get near expiration and the option is ITM. Relative price movement depends upon a number of factors. If you think you're “doing something wrong” email me and I'll try to answer your questions.


10:40 am
August 18, 2009


optimism

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Just two market days ago the S&P and the Dow both closed at new recovery highs. The recent pullback can be considered nothing more than the usual breathing action that normally follows a period of strength. At this point in time, there is no indication the dip will be anything more than that until more time has passed and the pullback pattern clears some.

The markets are down around 3% from their recent highs, and the strongest support levels are about 3% lower for the Dow, S&P, and Nasdaq, so there’s still room for the market to gyrate. The believers will use this dip to add to bullish positions in the improving Health Care and Industrial sectors. The doubters will do nothing.

11:18 am
August 18, 2009


stockcrazy10

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I'm a believer, but I'm leery of the healthcare sector until the components and status of the proposed healthcare legislation become clear.


Are there any 'safe' healthcare plays (able to profit regardless of changes in healthcare regulation and administration)?


(I guess I should be kicking myself for selling VTR under 5.00.  Cry)


4:49 pm
August 18, 2009


asafp

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When I invest in healthcare, I usually get my head handed to me on a stick. Today’s good news has a nasty habit of becoming tomorrow’s bad news.

The best method might be to buy the rumor and make sure you get out before the facts come out. The facts always make life suck.

8:14 pm
August 18, 2009


stockcrazy10

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I've owned TEVA for years, as well as JNJ and Medtronic…but other healthcare stocks may outperform these in the current environment.


Any suggestions?

9:08 pm
August 19, 2009


spreadtrader

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Check these out:

ALGN, DXCM, HLT, HMA, NKTR, OSTE, PODD, STAA, SVA, VVUS

Some of these stocks need a tinge of a pull back and some look ready to take off. Don't ask me what they do…because I don't know.Surprised

8:16 am
August 20, 2009


asafp

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Does anyone here have opinion on ISRG? It’s one of those that everyone loved in 2007-2008 and now you don’t hear much about it.

8:25 am
August 20, 2009


Darrell

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ISRG is at 222.00/ share, many folks are waiting for a correction of market conditions. Will it get to $300.00 again, will government healthcare aide or hurt, are other companies might be introducing newer better products. I would just say, no confidence in the market, etc.

9:09 am
August 20, 2009


optimism

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The market is working higher up after its big down day on Monday, however the advance-decline and new high figures are running behind the market strength. This is indicating that a narrower list of stocks are responsible for the strength and says that the advance is in the maturing stage. This doesn’t mean that the market can’t go higher, but it does imply that the advance is closer to a top than a bottom. The advance is at about the 2/3 mark between the bottom and a meaningful top. There is still room to go, but the stocks that are participating seem to be thinning into the more defensive and late stage names that commonly bring up the rear of an advance. This is why the opportunities are still in healthcare and industrials.

4:43 pm
August 20, 2009


perfectsim

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When about should I abandon ship and buy an inverse fund? I mean, I'm going to do it eventually, but which one should I buy and how soon a timeline are we looking at here?

2:08 am
August 21, 2009


Will

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I had some success with RYURX (an inverse mutual fund). RSW is 2X inverse of S&P500 and moves very fast. At its peak in Feb 2009, it was selling for $179. Right now, it is $73. I hung on to it for too long and got burned. Be very careful with inverse ETFs.  Others include TBT, DOG, PSQ, EUM, SEF. As for timing, that is the $6M question. Optimism may have more insight on timing.

9:32 am
August 21, 2009


optimism

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Hey perfectsim, the market has no set time or date for a pullback. There is nothing etched in stone & the market doesn't have to do anything. What we all have to do as investors & traders is follow the tape. I still believe this maturing rally is at the 2/3 mark, so it still has some upside. For now, I'm long & bullish. The first sign of trouble would be if the benchmark S&P Index broke and closed below the 975 level with next support at 950. Stay tuned.

10:31 am
August 21, 2009


stockcrazy10

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I just heard a pundit say “the market has no choice but to go up” (on FBN).


That's an interesting concept…a market with 'free will' or NOT. Wink

11:11 am
August 21, 2009


optimism

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Hey stockcrazy, it's my belief that the “pundits” are out there wanting to seperate you from as much of you hard earned capital as possible. They use the oldest trick in the book, ”hope” & “fear”. Level 2 anyone ? I'll let the charts do the talking. Have a great weekend ! 

11:19 am
August 21, 2009


shredmonster

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Post edited 11:20 am – August 21, 2009 by shredmonster


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm……………….is Mr. MARKET perhaps liking the fact that socialized health care is

tanking ?Wink


I don't trust this market.  I am taking profits as it goes up.

11:35 am
August 21, 2009


Darrell

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opti, I don't understand why OIL is rising as we supposely are still in Contago, but I'm still holding in oil and gas. I remain long in metals and am still in Bio's. I hope your right on the 2/3 with more to come, but I'm looking for a pullback and more buying opputs in the NEAR future…what you think ?

11:36 am
August 21, 2009


stockcrazy10

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I know I am (liking the fact that socialized health care is tanking).   


I should probably be taking profits.  ConfusedEmbarassedConfused


optimism, thanks for your words of wisdom.  Have a great weekend!  Smile


6:44 pm
August 21, 2009


smiling2bank

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Speaking of socialized health care . . .

I was wondering about XBI.

Would one of the experienced chart readers on this forum please look at XBI for me and tell me what you think?

Thank you in advance.

7:45 pm
August 23, 2009


Timothy B Favero

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smiling2bank said:

Speaking of socialized health care . . .

I was wondering about XBI.

Would one of the experienced chart readers on this forum please look at XBI for me and tell me what you think?

Thank you in advance.


It looks like XBI has been moving with the market the last four days, but didn't do much on Friday, it opened higher than the Thursday close, but fell $0.08 to close the day at $54.16, (it opened at $54.22).  Reading the charts, this is a doji, and we will have to see what happens on Monday, and perhaps Tuesday to find out if it's going to reverse course.   Additionally, the 10 day moving average has fallen down to meet the 20 day exponential moving average but hasn't crossed it.  If it does cross, chances are XBI will start coming down.  Monday and Tuesday will give you a better idea.   Below is a chart with moving averages and some chart tools.  the Williams %R, the money flow index and MACD are all neutral and don't give any indication of which way XBI is going to trade.    http://finance.yahoo.com/echar…..icator=sma(10)+ema(20,30)+wpr+mfi+macd;charttype=candlestick;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

9:44 pm
August 23, 2009


smiling2bank

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Thanks Tim,

So the only good news is that there is no bad news.

By the way, this is my long call position that I am second guessing.  Just like your UNG position. Wink

Time is on my side and the market trend is up.  I will hold. 

10:09 pm
August 23, 2009


smiling2bank

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Getting back to “The Market Outlook”

I am liking the fact that socialized health care AND cap and trade is failing.  I think these two uncertainties are holding back businesses and the market.

However, I am selling on the way up.  I am having one of those “this can't be right feelings” like I did back in the internet bubble.  I see too many people out of work and unwilling to return to work because they would loose their unemployment check.  I see too many cars, boats and whatevers with for sales signs.  I see too many perfectly good roads being torn up and rebuilt.  I have never seen so much lumber stacked up at the big name local sawmill.  They have at least 10 times their usual inventory and the usual 24/7 operation has been reduced to one day shift for five days a week.  Something ain't right…

10:12 pm
August 23, 2009


perfectsim

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I agree. I've also noticed a decrease in railroad traffic but I also haven't had to go over the tracks too much lately.

9:15 am
August 24, 2009


optimism

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The Current Trends:

Investor Sentiment is at historically high levels but not peaking yet.

Advance-Decline Line is moving up in confirmation of the market’s strength and suggesting further upside.

The VIX is still falling, and not yet near historical peaking levels.

DJ Transports are lagging the industrials but very close to breaking out and confirming the bull market.

DJ Utilities are confirming the general market strength and projecting more upside.

US Dollar is testing the low at 77.50, and has risk to around 70 if broken.

Gold remains in a neutral range of 88-96 on the GLD with no indication of a breakout yet.

Oil is breaking through resistance at 72-73 with potential to rally to 90.

Natural Gas as a commodity is still weakening, but the stocks are rallying.

10-Year Note is neutral in a 33-39 range that could last for several months.

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