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12:27 pm
July 23, 2009


asafp

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Post edited 12:32 pm – July 23, 2009 by asafp


I’ve mentioned this one before. The P&F is interesting. Looks like it should break through the red line and two previous tops at $14.50.
Net 1 Ueps Technologies Inc. (UEPS)
A generally rising market might fuel takeover rumors and this low P/E stock might even get a Navellier pump.

12:51 pm
July 23, 2009


Darrell

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SmileThanks, I like the TECHs a bunch. I'll research it.

3:19 pm
July 23, 2009


dlst

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It's got a Nav. rating of "D=sell" at the moment.

8:44 am
July 24, 2009


asafp

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In my opinion weak earnings from MSFT should not cast a dark shadow on the whole tech sector.

Microsoft raises specter of doubt on tech recovery

MSFT is the ghost of tech past and not an indicator of tech future. Could be a buying opportunity in tech here.

6:27 pm
July 26, 2009


at_the_track

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Motley Fool just issued a "back up the truck" for UEPS:


http://www.fool.com/investing/…..tocks.aspx


It did say that it was cheap because investors were scared of the volatility in South Africa.  however, the company does have $117mm incash.

6:36 pm
July 26, 2009


at_the_track

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The part in the link where it starts out "i found one recently" refers to Barrett Business Services.  BBSI.  It's a microcap.  Motley discovered it at $20, and watched it fall to about $10, where it still stands today.  But they've got about $5.50 in cash.  They're an HR outsourcer.  I don't know what has held them back, but I have to believe the staffing side of their business is soft. 

1:49 pm
July 27, 2009


asafp

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Chaos in South Africa may prove to be a blessing in disguise for UEPS. Any company interested in buying their software or the company, could have the source code transmitted to them in a few minutes. Employees could continue to work from their homes in South Africa or move anywhere in the world and work there. There are few technical limitations on these things these days. I don't know what legal or political hurdles might have to be jumped.

It's a situation that's almost completely different from a miner. You can't transmit a platinum mine over the internet (yet). I've never been to South Africa, but it wouldn't surprise me that a software company would be far less of a political issue than gold miners that have a reputation of rich people and foreigners exploiting the hard working masses.

10:07 am
July 29, 2009


asafp

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"9:22AM Net 1 UEPS Techs announces agreement to repurchase Brait SA's 9.2 million shares for $13.50 per share (UEPS) 14.95 : Co announces that it has agreed to repurchase all Company shares held by Brait SA and its investment affiliates for ZAR 105.98 ($13.50) per share, for an aggregate repurchase price of ZAR 977 million, or $124.5 million. The repurchase is expected to close on or before August 4, 2009. The buyback of 9,221,526 shares represents 16.9% of the Company's outstanding shares."

They are buying back shares at $13.50 (less than yesterdays closing price of $14.95). How they managed to do this, I don't know. But I like it and so does the market. UEPS up over 9%.

9:07 am
July 31, 2009


asafp

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I'm hanging on to this one even though it's up nicely. P/E and forward P/E are around 10. Pretty low for a tech stock and a possible takeover candidate.

We've seen plenty of Great Story, Lousy Stock items here. But I think this is a Great Story and a Great Stock. There is plenty of room for improvement and growth in the Payment Solutions arena. It's not unusual for me to have a credit card transaction denied based on the current fraud detection methods. Then I have to make a phone call. It's a giant pain in the ass. Also, current payment transaction fees for credit cards and paypal are way too high. If these guys can improve on these things, they are worth more than the current market price.

There are also opportunities outside the payment area, such as voting.

What am I missing here?

11:38 am
July 31, 2009


spreadtrader

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Nothing…….great stock, average sector…….way overbought. I'd like to buy it at 13.50 – 15.00. Trouble is, the weekly momentum just turned positive so it may be awhile before it's back there.

10:31 pm
September 16, 2009


spreadtrader

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Well this never looked back, did it?

10:41 am
September 22, 2009


asafp

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Gravity will kick in on UEPS sooner or later.

Another tech stock that looks real cheap right now is YTEC.

9:23 am
October 13, 2009


asafp

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Insider sales on UEPS are scary.

10:21 am
October 13, 2009


stockcrazy10

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Surprised Thanks for the warning!

10:45 am
October 13, 2009


Will

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Time to pick up some UEPS Nov 20 puts for 0.85?

9:48 pm
October 16, 2009


smiling2bank

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Post edited 9:52 pm – October 16, 2009 by smiling2bank


Too Funny! 

On September 9th, 2009 Stansberry pumped this stock.  

On September 10th, 2009 the insiders dumped this stock.

9:53 pm
October 16, 2009


stockcrazy10

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Laugh

2:59 am
October 25, 2009


smiling2bank

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Will,

Did you buy those puts?


4:36 am
October 25, 2009


Will

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No, I didn'tFrown. I threw that out as a question hoping for some feedback but none came and it kind of faded from my radar. If I did, that would be kind of nice because that will mean that I am producing fruits of learning from all of you guys on this great forum. I am still learning but haven't much to show yetLaughNevermind, the market will still be there on MondayLaugh

Have a great weekend!

7:05 pm
October 25, 2009


smiling2bank

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True.  The market will be there on Monday. 

UEPS is definitely breaking down. 

The question is how low will it go?  This is where it would be good to know how to figure out resistance levels.  It looks like UEPS will fall to $XX.00 per share so buying puts might still be an "option." 

I blanked out my guess at how far the shares will fall so that my very poor and unskilled guess would not influence anyone elses decision.

1:08 am
October 26, 2009


Will

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Based on what I know, UEPS is awfully close to breaching the first significant support at 23.6% retracement (19.10). If it does that, the next support level is at 17.75 but that support appears weak and probably won't hold. The next significant support will be at the 38.2% retracement (17.00). If that doesn't hold the next support will be the 50% retracement at 15.34. If that doen't hold we are looking at 13~14.00.

I wished I had bought the Nov 20 put for 0.85 but that ship has sailed. The next best thing to do is to buy the Dec 20 put for about 1.70 or better. To cover the cost, you can elect to sell 3 Jan 15 put for 0.3 for a net spread of 0.8 (1.7 minus 0.9). You run the risk of owning 300 shares of UEPS at 15.00. If at expiration the price of UEPS is somewhere between 20 and 15, you would gain a maximum of 4.2 per share (5 minus 0.8). If it crashes below 15 and 300 shares of UEPS got putted to you, you should have no problem getting some defensive puts to protect those shares with the profit you made with the Dec 20 put.


A less risky and hence less profitable move is to sell 1 Dec 17.50 put for 0.6 for a net spread of 1.1 (1.7 minus 0.6). Your maximum gain would be 1.4 (2.5 minus 1.1) per share. The breakeven price would be 18.90. Likewise you might end up with 100 shares of UEPS.


ST: Please feel free to review/comment and/or add new strategiesSmile

7:12 am
October 26, 2009


spreadtrader

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Let's step back and ask ourselves whether we want to own this stock and if not, is it worth risking a swim against the tide to sell it (buy puts). The broad market is trending up. The sector is favored and this stock is outperforming the broad market. Are you sure you want to go against the grain here? Why is the stock "breaking down", because I haven't looked at it in months?

You can fashion a trade out of just about any chart….but there are a lot of charts and a lot of stocks. Will, you're catching on very well with some newfound trader's tools. Try to keep using them in situations that you see on paper and track how the hypothetical trades would work (or not work). But insist upon being very selective about how you commit your actual capital. If you miss a trade, track what you would have liked to do and move on. Better yet, plan for what you will do when certain events happen (or don't happen); and execute when the circumstances are right. Make the markets come to you. Planning, not reacting is the way to success in this.

Let's look at this chart in relation to Fibonacci support and resistance. Your Fibonacci assessment is very good as far as it goes; and you're catching on quickly. There are a number of ways to apply this technique; and again, it's often good to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. The more you work with it the better you'll get. On a weekly candle chart there is strong overhead resistance at 33.00. There is also strong long term support at about 8.00. The 50% retracement for that range is then about 20.50. You can see that this area has provided a lot of chart support over the past 5 years and recently it has provided resistance. It is apparent that it will take quite an effort to punch back through this area. On the other hand, the stock is a strong performer from a relative strength perspective, so the down side may also be limited. Next support is in the 17.75 area as you have pointed out, with stronger support at 14.00.

Up above I said several months ago that I'd like to buy this stock at 13.50 – 15.00. Unfortunately, I'm not seeing much of an opportunity presently to do that. Selling puts at various strikes and calendar months won't achieve that for me yet. So I'd watch for now, and wouldn't do anything. Certainly, somebody else may see it differently; and I'd be interested in knowing what is going on in the board room on this one, especially in light of the comment about heavy insider selling.

1:04 am
October 27, 2009


Will

United States

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ST:


Thanks for the encouraging feedback. I am learning from the best (as far as I am concerned-you will probably disagreeSmile)


I think timing is very important, i.e when to enter or exit a particular trade. When the broad market is rising, it is hard to sell short or buy puts, no matter what the charts say. Are there any resources that you would recommend that deal with market trends and timing issues?


Sector rotation is also very critical. I would say that my portfolio has taken an abnormally hard hit because I am heavy into oil/energy and precious metals and these two sectors were hit hard the last week or so. Likewise are there any resources that you would recommend dealing with sector rotation.


Once again, thanks!


Will


4:03 pm
November 6, 2009


asafp

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UEPS reported earnings after close yesterday. Since it's a foreign company, they reported two different ways and since I'm not tax attorney, it's confusing to me.

Market seemed to like it with shares up over 5% today. Still, with the insider sales, I'm staying away.

12:13 pm
November 25, 2009


asafp

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Insider sales appears to be a false alarm. Looking at the detail, it's mainly one insider who sold right before the stock took off.

5-Aug-09 BRAIT S.A.
Beneficial Owner (10% or more) 9,221,526 Indirect Sale at $13.50 per share. $124,490,60

Net1 Announces Acquisition of MediKredit Integrated Healthcare Solutions

I like the move into healthcare. Should be a good synergy.
I'm re-establing a small position.

9:23 am
November 27, 2009


Darrell

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Will the passage of National Healthcare effect this company ?? I'm scared of what effect the passage of this leg. will have on any heath related company.

11:02 am
November 27, 2009


asafp

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With it's latest acquisition, UEPS has a small footprint in the US health industry. Most of their business is in South Africa and developing nations. If that US footprint expands, that would be a giant bonus to stockholders a few years down the road. But there is little risk that anything the Congress does here will harm UEPS.

I am very excited about small innovative software companies in general. Recent advances in hardware (greatly increased performance for less money and improved battery life), software, and mobile computing have created great new opportunities. I believe we are moving from the era of computers as game machines and glorified VCR players into a new generation.

11:19 am
December 7, 2009


stockcrazy10

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The CEO of UEPS sold 148,900 shares on 12/2/09.  He sold 196,669 shares on 9/10/09 and 75,000 shares on 7/14/09. 

The 2009 sales are his first since 5/25/06 when he sold 478,333 shares at 27.70 per share.  He owned 2,084,955 shares after the 2006 sale.  The latest sale reduced his holdings to 955,772 shares. Confused


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