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12:01 pm August 16, 2009
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Does anyone know anything about this gentleman, his web site and/or his "The Wizard Training Course"? I've done a little searching on Google.com but so far have found nothing to indicate that Mitch King, his web site and training course are anything but legitimate and useful. Thanks!!
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6:11 pm November 4, 2009
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I got the same ad you probably did and been trying to find the same thing out. I see it has been a few months – did you go ahead and order his materials?
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8:57 am November 15, 2009
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I just received this sales pitch from Mitch King the owner. Did a little research and could not find any results or reviews after April of 2009. All thier results focus on charts prior to the market collapse. If anyone has currently got involved in this service recently please inform on your results. Thanks – Steve
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12:24 pm November 17, 2009
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I subscribed to this service about 2 months ago so I do not have a lot of experience with it yet, but I will share with you what I've noticed so far.
Every week night except for Friday and on Sunday (usually between 8-10 PM MST) you will get an email from Mitch with several links. One is to a video giving his viewpoint on the day's market and the results and recommended actions regarding the previous night's reco's. If there are new reco's he will mention it there too. The second link is to a .pdf file on his website which also reiterates what was in the video and has a list of stocks that are in play and the action he recommends. In this he lists an entry price and an exit price if the trade was completed along with the P&L %. He does not show any specific stop values although he recommends using them. Also in the newsletter he maintains a list of stocks that should be watched for scalping opportunities if you day trade.
Once you subscribe you will receive a set of CD's (9 or 10) which you need to watch to learn his strategies ( 3 or 4 of them). He also has a workbook which he charges for (about $45). His newsletters are very regular and there are good trades in them. He is honest about the P&Ls too. Although I don't know for sure I believe that he trades his own reco's although he claims to only trade not more than 4-5 at a time and very often there are more than 5 potential stocks on his list (and always more on his scalp list), so it is possible some of his staff trade the others. Part of the newsletter is "Joey's corner" which I guess is a staff member that scalps so he describes his activities for the day.
I've traded some of his reco's on a small scape and have had mostly successes. The stocks in his scalpe list (my area of interest) are quite volatile and move a lot during the day so I can see how one could make money here if you can pick the direction, entry and exit points correctly, something I haven't quite mastered yet. If you use stops you can limited your losses to a reasonable percent although you can get stopped out easily if it's too low for a really volatile stock and completely miss the profits. Also, he will both short and long the stocks, sometimes doing both in the same day.
I don't particularly care for the way he formats his list of stocks and the actions as it is not always as clear as I would like. I'm a relatively new traded so I'm a bit skittish yet, so for a more experienced trader it might be easier to follow along. From what I can tell his service might be more focused on day trading although I might be biased here as that is my area of interest however, there are definitely reco's for swing or intermediate trading but not long term or buy and hold. If I recall he posts some of his older newsletters on his website so you can take a look and see if the format is workable to you.
Please keep in mind that I am relatively new to this service so opinions from others with longer term experience are probably more accurate. Hope this helps.
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3:01 pm November 17, 2009
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Cheech – thank you for your response. I'm just getting back into swing trading and was curious about the service Mitch King offers. It sounds like a slew of other "So called Wizards" that keep there pulse on the market and charge based on there technical skills. Generally the picks are hit or miss and its best to stick with your personal rules and apply them to his selections if they seem valid enough. It took me about 10 years to wittle down my parameters and abide by very specific rules. Having done it all, the simpler your game plan the better. As long as you have established rules that you abide by for getting you into a trade the better off you'll be in the long run.
I only trade in the long direction. The market direction should be in a stage #2 which is just breaking out from a base. Stage #3 is a flat top and stage #4 is in a down trend. Stage #1 is another base preparing for a breakout. Basically a bell curve with attention given to the exact place the overall market is currently in (placing number's 1 through 4 along the bell curve). You'd be surprised how this basic understanding of the overall market position has saved me a great deal of money. And actually made me a great deal of money.
I also only trade the strongest stocks in the market. The IBD 100 as an example is my primary watch list. Shares traded must me at least 1 million shares a day or greater. Volume ideally would be increasing at the turn or upon a breakout.
I also only trade one stock at a time with a risk reward ratio of at lease 3:1. Obviously the more ducks that line up in your favor the better for entering the trade. My current goal is to start at $25,000 and roll over the winnings into each successive trade. I sell when I reach a 5% profit, which isn't that difficult with very strong stocks. If you can do this 75 times compounding your profit each time into the next trade, thats 1 million bucks. I'm currently 15 out of 16 trades based on sticking with my IBD selections. I have no idea if i'll be able to maintain the ability to pull the trigger if I were to get up around the mid forty mark and higher – hopefully that day may come sooner than I think.
Best of luck. Just thought I'd share a portion of the wisdom I've gained from being on both sides of the coin.
Regards – Steve
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4:44 pm November 17, 2009
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Steve:
Thanks for your share, it was informative. I never thought of using the IBD 100 as a source (is it published on their site?). I will check into it, and I'll look more at your approach as it piqued my interest.
Concerning Mitch, I hope I didn't sound negative about him because my opinion is otherwise. Apparently he has been successful using his personal rules which he too has developed over time, something I can not rule out. According to Mitch he trades by these rules even today and makes his choices and methodology known to others, naturally for a fee for which he is entitled. He does seem to put more effort into what he does then the others that I've experienced in that his newsletter is sent out daily and from what I can see he is reasonably successful in his selections. He also has no problem owning up to his not-so-good selections or ones that he has mis-traded.
I may have mis-lead you a bit by referring to the stocks he names as reco's as they are more of a his selections to be watched. He will give you the direction that he believes they will move in and for swing trades when he anticipates the stock will move in the stated direction, and if one is only comfortable or otherwise chooses to trade in the long direction there are selections for each. From that point on your left to your own due diligence on whether or not to take the trade and how to set it up. Of course one should watch the videos as it describes what to look for (his signals if you will) and how to setup your charts with the appropriate indicators and such. He does have trading and money management rules that he follows and publishes for you to either use, supplement with your own, or ignore if you so choose.
I haven't followed his swing or intermediate trades as closely as his scalp list but if you're interested in day trading and are satisfied with scalping (and the requirements that go along with it) a buck or more off a trade every day or so using his selections, as I mentioned one can be successful, more often than not. Also, he does not recommend newbies take on any more than 1 to 2 trades at a time until one develops a comfort level, and as I stated he rarely goes more than 4-5 himself.
Good luck to you too.
Regards,
Cheech
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10:51 am December 6, 2009
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Post edited 10:55 am – December 6, 2009 by BillyBob
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If you check these he didnt do very well. I have looked at others and he has not done well there either (these just easier to see @ bottom is list.
Gurus dont do well in my 10yrs of study. I can do much better with what I have learned by working long and hard at it. Most of what everyone says works doesnt. That's how the BIGs win. Get you going wrong way!
Even a blind squirrel has to find a few acorns or he'd be dead! I regularly beat guys on live webinars, some with their own software dont follow it! (TradeGuider). If they dont follow it why would you buy it?
Do the time… learn what works from your own studies, it works much better.
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7:44 pm January 28, 2010
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Just saw the promotion video. Guess will check it out Monday since it offers the 14 day free trial and will report here how it goes.
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12:07 am February 11, 2010
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Jose – can you update on how your experience has been with the 2 week trial ?
Thanks
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10:53 pm February 22, 2010
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Cheech said:
Steve:
Thanks for your share, it was informative. I never thought of using the IBD 100 as a source (is it published on their site?). I will check into it, and I'll look more at your approach as it piqued my interest.
Concerning Mitch, I hope I didn't sound negative about him because my opinion is otherwise. Apparently he has been successful using his personal rules which he too has developed over time, something I can not rule out. According to Mitch he trades by these rules even today and makes his choices and methodology known to others, naturally for a fee for which he is entitled. He does seem to put more effort into what he does then the others that I've experienced in that his newsletter is sent out daily and from what I can see he is reasonably successful in his selections. He also has no problem owning up to his not-so-good selections or ones that he has mis-traded.
I may have mis-lead you a bit by referring to the stocks he names as reco's as they are more of a his selections to be watched. He will give you the direction that he believes they will move in and for swing trades when he anticipates the stock will move in the stated direction, and if one is only comfortable or otherwise chooses to trade in the long direction there are selections for each. From that point on your left to your own due diligence on whether or not to take the trade and how to set it up. Of course one should watch the videos as it describes what to look for (his signals if you will) and how to setup your charts with the appropriate indicators and such. He does have trading and money management rules that he follows and publishes for you to either use, supplement with your own, or ignore if you so choose.
I haven't followed his swing or intermediate trades as closely as his scalp list but if you're interested in day trading and are satisfied with scalping (and the requirements that go along with it) a buck or more off a trade every day or so using his selections, as I mentioned one can be successful, more often than not. Also, he does not recommend newbies take on any more than 1 to 2 trades at a time until one develops a comfort level, and as I stated he rarely goes more than 4-5 himself.
Good luck to you too.
Regards,
Cheech
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10:59 pm February 22, 2010
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Steve- you are trading your entire account value with each trade? if you are using a sell stop what percent loss are you accepting? how is your strategy working?
the trades i have made using IBD picks have made me the most money. can you explain your bell curve some more? good luck
– LW
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2:12 am February 23, 2010
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well signed up for the trial, got the course, but have not finished it. Still with it, trying to trade recommendations with options. Still figuring it out. Mitch King does offer a better deal if sign up for a year, so will try this month to see if worth the subscription price. I guess he mentions stocks and what to look for and he has been wrong and right so still trying to see if more right than wrong.
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5:10 pm March 19, 2010
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I have the Wizard Course and agree with all here that Mitch does offer a regular service and he does inform that one should follow the course teachings which includes not leveraging, using Stops, and he generally does not use Options Strategy's. I personally have an over $2M account with Optionshouse and another lesser $200K account with TD Ameritrade and have been Trading since the early 1990's. In these kinds of accounts it is not difficult to Short Stock itself if they are available to do so, and Mitch trades both Long and Short, almost always in Stock, not Options. Just so everyone will know, I started Trading in Commodities Futures and Options so the concepts of Shorting a Trade is simply another skill set learned. What Mitch does is searches for Volumn indictors backed (or not) by News, Rumor, and in all cases with an eye on the overall Index trend. He teaches how to set up your Indicators for Scalping in his CD courses, so it is up to the Trader to determine from what they see happening on Level 2 (if scalping) which Trade to enter or not. He offers ideas on Swing and some Position Trades as well. One thing the beginning Traders need to remember is that even an expereinced Trader can always still pick up an idea or two from others. Not to say there are no scams out there..there are..but Mitch does not offer majic bullets, he has always staed to be careful out there and not let emotion influence your trades. Just for an example he recently offered an idea on AIG Short for a Swing Position using either Stock or Options. I closed the Short Stock position (got lucky in finding Stock that was avaialable to Short!) that did well.
We're also still Long TM. Probably good to the Mid 80's as of 3-19-2010. Both are current examples and a reco.
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