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TonyM
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TonyM
December 20, 2010 9:32 pm

Bottarelli Research Options

I was a subscriber for four months – a 3 month trial and a re-subscribe for 3 more months.I got out after a total of 4 months with a pro-rated refund and about $6,000 of losses on about 20 trades of the more than 150 he proposed during that time frame.

Bottarelli is day trading options for the most part and this is not disclosed up front. He tries to make money based on quick price movement of stocks. For example, “XYZ has moved down to resistance. The stock is strong, so buy the XYZ ABC Call for a quick move back up”. That move might occur before you can type the option symbol ( or even blink!) and Bottarelli will record a win; or the stock might continue down stopping you out. He provides entry and exit points. The options are usually at the nearest expiration date or maybe the next month’s expiration date and most of the time in the money. You won’t find cheap longer term options here. You won’t have time to wait out a wrong move in the hopes of a reversal. He claims great numbers of wins. He might get out of the position within a few minutes or hours, occasionally days, so you have to be logged on to his website to get the recommendations in real time. He also tries to play upcoming earnings reports, placing strangles very near the reporting date. He is also not afraid to buy options up to expiration day based on any number of reasons he finds attractive. He may make 1-5 recommendations in a day. He might open and close calls and puts on the same stock in the same day as it moves up and down in price. He doesn’t sell puts or write calls. He appears to track 10 or 20 highly volatile stocks doing multiple trades on each.

If you have deep pockets and can pull the trigger instantaneously on a recommendation, execute all of the recommendations, and are not made ill by anxiety, you might make money. This is a fast paced service, not for the light-hearted or those who have other day jobs and can’t pay close attention. There are a lot of losers and you have to get in and out when he says so or you will lose even more. It is almost impossible to get in at his recommended prices. I lost a good chunk of money trading 5 to 10 options at a time and trying to cherry pick his recommendations. I found his claims of xxx% profit on a trade were probably at the prices he got and do not take into consideration trading costs and are nowhere near the reality I experienced. Some of the ones I didn’t play were the ones that made the most money (of course!). Others I am glad I stayed out. Since Bottarelli is looking for quick moves, there is no way to do technical analysis on a chart to help verify the recommendation. Forget about fundamentals. You have to put emotions and rationality on hold, take his word and plunge in.

Like most of these services, you need the capital to sustain a lot of losses in the hopes of hitting the big winners that will inevitably happen – hopefully before you are broke and discouraged!

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Normally Dubious
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Normally Dubious
October 30, 2018 4:19 pm
Reply to  TonyM

Just recently rejoined Bottarelli and yes, often he will suggest an option at 940 am and by 3pm he is suggesting we sell it. Unfortunately my broker isn’t allowing day trading….welll I can do it but then I get good faith violations from broker, etc.
So far, a lot of his recommendations are weekly if not daily options on QQQ plus having you buy both a call and a put on a company about to report earnings, with a history of result swings. That just started today so we will see if there’s any benefit to that.

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Virginia Commonwealther
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Virginia Commonwealther
June 26, 2011 3:33 pm

I accepted a free three-month trial subscription in March. I purchased three of their recommendations. I lost 72%,90% and 92% on the recommendations. Monday of the week the subscription was to expire on FRIDAY, I unclecked auto-new on their web site. On The next day their email read to email “support@bottarelliresearch.com” with “Cancel Free Trial” in the subject line which I sent. On Thursday their email to me was that I had been charge $700 on auto-renew. My credit card was charge on that Thursday. I have sent FOUR emails to support@bottarelliresearch.com about their error and have received NO response. They have no phone number or address listed which the Naperville, IL Better Business Bureau needs when a complaint is filed. My credit card company is working on the problem. My advice: stay away from Bottarelli Research

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VC
July 18, 2011 8:50 pm

Used this service for over a year and was never able to duplicate the returns he reported achieving. Tried all sorts of order methods and trade notice means to minimize as much lag as possible. At the time he was limiting his gains to around the 20% range, but he let his losses run to a point where one loss wipped out 5 profitable trades.Didn’t make sense to me but even with my expression of concerns to him via e-mail this trading pattern continued.

Les
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Les
September 7, 2012 1:37 pm

Bottarelli research does not display the losses correctly. Recently they had a DIA put and it was a 100% loss yet never showed it on their history page. In 1 month had a 10k loss this is a very poor service lock n loose

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PL
October 18, 2012 4:07 pm

Tried this and other Bottarelli services, which all failed to produce. May be an interesting read, but due to consistently losing trades, the overall rating and value are not worth it.

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carlb60
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February 26, 2013 12:47 pm

I gotta agree with the other reviewers. I subscribed for three months since I am retired and can follow the quick in and out recommendations. The prices were never as good as recommended and losses are ignored. I lost an average of about 30% in five or six trades over two weeks and decided it’s like hitting your finger with a hammer; sure feels good to stop.

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carlb60
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February 26, 2013 2:36 pm

Just for grins, I decided to see what Bottarelli was suggesting today. The suggestion was to buy FOSL March 16 100 puts @ 3.60. I thought, what-the-heck give it another shot. Bought 2 @ 3.70. So far I’ve lost $100 and FOSL is up $1.22. Looks like FOSL is going to do just the opposite of what Bottarelli thinks. I’ll give it one more day, but my advice RE this letter is do just the opposite of whatever recommendations are made.

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carlb60
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February 27, 2013 12:51 pm

New report: I got “stopped” out of FOSL (thank goodness) at the recommended stop price. Lost $170 per contract in one day. If you want to make money with this (I hesitate to call it a) service, do the opposite of what is recommended

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forddriver
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forddriver
August 12, 2013 11:02 am

I subscribed to both Botarelli Options and their Professional services. I lost money on both. More importantly, there was one recommendation that fell until it hit the stop loss they recommended, a couple of days later at 9:32 am, they send email saying it was time to “sell this stock now.” The stock the started up and 15 minutes later they changed recommendation to hold onto the stock. Eventually they said to sell. They posted the results as a profit in their history of trades in spite of the fact that, according to their recommendations, one should have sold the stock on two separate occasions at a loss. The data of their trading history is obviously wrong. I did ask for a refund, initially they gave me less that I was due, but when I pointed their error out to them, they made the correct refund and, as a measure of good will, extended one of my subscriptions for 2 months. Overall, I made a profit because one of the stocks they recommended was not one I was following. After they brought it to my attention, and I took a position on my own criteria, it made a nice profit. So, I came out ahead in spite of their recommendations. Overall, I can not recommend any Bottarelli services.

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mobupin3
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mobupin3
January 30, 2016 3:40 pm

Unbelievably bad picks . Do yourself a favor and stay away. Lesson learned. Wish I would have found Stock Gumshoe before I wasted my money with Bottarrelli.

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prose
April 26, 2016 1:46 am

I have been using Bottarelli for about a year and a half and they are the best service that i have subscribed to and i have tried probably more than 20. I tracked them carefully for about the first 4 months that I used them and for a $2000 investment I was up about $40,000. usually trading 10 contracts – my guess is that they are right about 80% of the time and have a uncanny ability to pick a stock that is just about to go up or down. They have so many followers that one needs to act quickly when they send a text to buy or sell because it immediately spikes the option price. Some of their trades last only a few minutes and some a few days. I trade all day so i am able to respond quickly.

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manny
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manny
September 15, 2016 10:29 pm

Can’t seem to track the performance they claim, in fact a couple of times the return was way negative, they would claim it was positive return on the trade they recomended…. would stay clear away from this publication.

MachineGhost
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MachineGhost
February 2, 2017 3:20 pm

What is the real-world performance of Bottarelli Research Live?

The posted hypothetical track record looks like B.S…. good luck getting in and out of an option for just a .36 gain given the spreads and volatility expansion / crush.

I’ve been tracking the free Live trades for about 9 months and so far of the closed trades trading the underlying, a 69% win rate and avg profit/loss is 6.55% selling at roughly +/ 15%. Open is currently 62% win rate and 1.45% avg profit/loss.

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Don
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Don
February 23, 2017 10:36 am

I too tried the “free” trial last week and the track record they give themselves is very generous. They open a bunch of positions during the trial expecting you to subscribe so they can help you get out of them. They were all losers really. Lost almost $1000 in one week…not so free. I called and emailed as well with no reply. Stay away.

Donna
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Donna
November 21, 2019 8:36 pm
Reply to  Don

I’d like to thank this group for your comments. I was thinking about joining Bryan Bottarelli’s War Room but I always check out the company name + scam on Google to read real testimony or complaints before I make a move. I won’t be joining it now. When I practiced with paper money trading this past year, I lost once and that was only $20. I turned $5,000 into $35000 in 62 days. I am so much better off without these delusions of grandeur.

Dan
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Dan
January 23, 2020 3:26 pm
Reply to  Donna

Dang Donna, have you considered starting a service? I am retired Marine at 65 needing a winner to follow. Great job. I too almost fell for the War Room and thanks to Stock Gumshoe, which I use daily, no way I’ll go near them.

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Ian
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Ian
March 25, 2020 10:42 am
Reply to  Dan

Try stock-options-made-easy.com Mentorship Program! It is a paid service but a lot cheaper and easy to follow.

Len Pittsacado
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Len Pittsacado
April 22, 2017 7:32 am

Bottarelli is a flat out crook. Here is why I feel that way. Last year I took a one year subscription to one of their services. 6 months in I received an email saying they are combining two of their services into one more complete offering that will add weekly options to the monthlies I subscribed to. Because this new service is more expensive, they’re cutting my remaining time in half and adding a month. So my 6 months of paid for service became 3 plus 1 = 4. What did I get for losing 2 months of service? 6 out of 10 weeklies are losers, some of them 100%. As the their monthly record, it has gotten so bad that I am afraid to invest in them. Roughly half work out but getting 3 or 4 losers in a row is not uncommon. Their free email tracking option activity does as well as what you pay for.

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dave
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dave
April 28, 2017 4:02 am
Reply to  Len Pittsacado

The guy is a crook. He lets his losers run and cuts his winners short. Ifhe was so good he would be trading hisown account or managing a hedge fund.

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William
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William
April 29, 2017 9:40 pm

The only reason I even checked one star was because there wasn’t a lower choice.. I’ve been waiting more than two years for my “guaranteed” refund. Brian must have graduated from Trump U. and majored in – How To F..k Your Subscriber By Butt Dragging -.

leftfoot75
June 1, 2017 9:25 am

Hi there, I keep getting emails from Bottarelli research live, and boy do they ever sound tempting!!! Reviews on line have been pretty unfavourable. Wondering if any Gummies have had recent experience?

Best,
LF

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green chang
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green chang
July 20, 2017 9:22 am

This service is a total scam. If they would use a real account, the return will definitely be negative. Very dishonest.

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C Drake
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C Drake
August 4, 2017 12:28 pm

This report is terrible. Save your money

jpeters98
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jpeters98
November 27, 2017 3:01 pm

JPeters98
Took spring trial and before I could cancel my ccard was charged – eventually got refund since they used an old e-mail of mine to inform me of the pending charge.
I now follow the free daily updates on large options trades. I tracked them in a practice account for several months and found that very few actually made money- which tells me that there is a lot of stupid money out there!

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