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    1. Steven Evans
      Feb 1 2009, 04:14:33 am

      This review will cover as one package the Elliot Wave International’s three packages, Short-Term Update, Financial Forecast, and Elliot Wave Theorist. The reason is that just buying the Short Term Update (at $39/month) is like looking up close at a Monet Painting (e.g., London. The Waterloo Bridge). You see every stroke and line but can’t really tell what the big picture is all about, while the Financial Forecast gives you the big picture, but you will miss far too much of what this service has to provide if you are just getting commentary once a month. However if you buy the Short Term Update and just one of the others, you get all three for the same in their bundled price — so you might as well think of it as $59 (bundled price) for one package that comes in three parts. So just what is this package?

      The answer to that requires some commentary. The Elliot Wave Theory essentially says that all the commentary you get from all the talking heads on Wall Street is just that — made-up drivel that tells you little. Rather, the market is not a rational reaction to the daily economic news but is driven by an overall social mood (positive to negative), reflected in a subsequent herding behavior, and is essentially fractal (any part is similar to the larger part at any size you select). The market moves in determined and predictable waves, and if you properly identify the direction and status of the wave, you will have a very good picture of the ongoing trend. The Short Term Update gives you this “local” view of the trend, although they do show it in context of the Big Picture, but the other two publications focus on the Big Picture to be sure you understand the overall market direction. Thus this service is offering a compass to ascertain the ongoing direction of the market, both short term and long.

      Although the service may seem initially like a kind of technical charting analysis, it differs significantly from this by being grounded on an underlying theory about how human behavior operates and postulates an underlying wave theory that structures all the ongoing market moves. Virtually without exception, there are no individual stock recommendations whatsoever. It is a compass on where the market is in its cycle, and as a result, where it is likely going. It is actually an order of magnitude more subtle and sophisticated than merely technical charting since it operates with what can be called “a normative theory;” that it, it both describes and explains the markets ongoing moves through these built-in wave cycles being reflected, daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, and even over centuries.

      With all that being said, so what use is it? I can tell you that it has bailed my fat out of the fire for more than two years now — with its compass reading on where the market is and where it is going. For example, gold was predicted to move up (so I profited both with an ETF and specific gold miners I obtained from other regular stock-recommending sites), and as gold reached about $1000/ounce, the Elliot Wave analysis indicated we were through. I sold around $950 using the Short Term Update, and rode gold back down. Using their Big Picture, I turned bearish at the end of 2007 although they called the actual top within a month of it, and the service has served me in good stead all these many months. If you had embraced the Elliot Wave compass, you could easily have avoided most of the bite of the bear. So I am a very happy camper.

      The reason for this long review is that you can see that this service is a bit more cerebral than others, and does not, like most others, itemize a good stock buy this week or a good short. However, now that there are ETF’s, I can in fact short the DOW or S&P or go long on gold, etc. by connecting my purchases of ETF’s with the trends. I should note they have a lot of specialty additional services if you want to focus on commodities, for example, and other areas. Then you could trade specific ones since they track wheat, corn, oil, etc. In my opinion, this service which for my tight budget is somewhat expensive ($59/month) is extremely valuable, gives me what I think is a very good, tight, and remarkable accurate handle on where the overall market is going and where it is likely to go, and then when I couple that with either ETF’s or some individual stock recommendations (for example, Travis’ sleuthing brings us specific stocks that can be good insights), I have been doing utterly embarrassingly well for some time. I will keep with them.

    2. troppo32
      Feb 7 2009, 06:48:34 pm

      What a joke – “Steve Evans” reviews three of Robert Prechters offerings and uses the same commentary for all three. This smacks of a marketing flack shilling his pubs and is not something I would expect from Stock Gumshoe.

      I hope they screen the reviews to keep them honest.

      And, yes, I will post this on all three “reviews”.

    3. custer
      Feb 11 2009, 03:19:38 pm

      While I’ve subscribed, I’ve merely watched their thinking, not used it to guide my investing. I’ve not been very impressed, and have pretty much stopped reading it.

    4. Bill D
      May 1 2009, 12:32:38 pm

      To get the best out of this, one should know or agree with Elliot Wave theory. For the most part, they do a good job of DEFINING the trend once it develops. Since they try and pick tops and bottoms, one has to be wary, as NOT all signals are going to work and you have to have STOPS in play. Once a trend does get going, they are pretty good at keeping you in. They did a poor job from 1990 to 2000, thinking stocks were gonna dump, and it never came. They finally did get it right, but i think a lot of money was lost before this crash. They have consistently remained BEARISH on gold, which in my mind was a big blunder. So, its 50/50 on this one. Like i said, once they are correct on a trend, they do well, but it’ll cost you trying to establish a position at tops and bottoms when they are wrong. UNless your familiar with Elliot wave, it will be difficult to make money with these guys. Otherwise, you have a shot. They only cover the broad markets and hardly ever individual stocks.

    5. William Schraeder
      Jun 11 2009, 10:31:30 am

      Elliott Wave theory is fascinating, and Elliott Wave International (EWI) definitely makes it interesting with their commentary and myriad of products; EWI has quite a business model (racket) going.

      Bottom line: I have been a subscriber to most of their products for over 2 years, and I can say with scientific facts that the short term update (STU) and Financial Forecast (FF) are almost ALWAYS WRONG. While I suspect there may be a play in taking the opposite side of their recommendations, the bottom line is EWI products should be used for entertainment much like tarot cards or lottery tickets—the waves can form interesting confluences of events—-however, they should NEVER be used for real trading. EWI is analagous to reading “tea leaves” or “solar patterns”—interesting, but not something you should base an investment decision on. Morover, Steve Hochberg has got to be the worst analyst I have ever read—-they say even a stopped clock is right once a day—-I cannot remember a time when Steve Hochberg got it right. In fact, I have seriously considered taking the opposite side of his recommendations. For you contrarians out there, Steve Hochberg is wrong almost 100% of the time.

    6. Burned
      Oct 7 2009, 05:10:12 pm

      I got suckered, and it cost me.

      When commodities took the big tumble in mid ’08, it caught me by surprise. Luckily, I was way ahead and got out in time to stay a little ahead. But it shook me up. I went looking for some analyst or tout who “saw it coming.” I subscribed to Elliott Wave.

      Based on Elliott Wave, I lost a lot of money hedging my physical gold position for pull-backs that never came. For six months or so, they were predicting that gold would fall below its recent low in the high 600’s. They kept that up right up to the point that gold hit $1047. I don’t know what they said after that, because I canceled.

      What did not know was that they are perma-deflationists and perma-bears on commodities. Of course they “got it right” during the big de-leveraging event. They had been singing the same tune since at least 2002, right near the start of the great bull market in gold and a decade of high inflation.

      I did not do my homework, and I paid. Shame on me.

    7. Al
      Oct 14 2009, 09:19:58 pm

      Well, I have only been a subscriber since Aug. 24 2009 and was still reviewing their archives when the call went out, by an early issue of Robert Precters’ EW Thoerist, that the odds favored the end of PrimaryWave2Up and the start of PrimaryWave3Down: the longest and most destructive wave down, according to EW Principle.

      Anyways, I’m not a novice, and have my own trading system, so I merely observed the market going down but did notice that it failed to break major support at SPX 992 on 9/2/2009 so I went long.

      In my experience when major support holds, the market rotates back up to test major resistance, which is what happened as the market rotated up and finally neared SPX 1070. Granted, the upsurge was typical PrimaryWave2 behavior, in that there was no let up after major support held, so I give EW FF and STU credit for alerting me about various wave “personalities”.

      Anyways, that was their first and failed call to the end of PrimaryWave2Up and start of PrimariWave3Down. Their second call, also a failure, I will add, happened on Sep. 23. 2009 first by STU(short term update) then later “confirmed” by FF STU. However, once again, the market decline was stopped by major support holding in the area of SPX 1020 which resulted in the recent rally propelling DJIA to 10,000.

      I expect it to continue until it hits the next major resistance, or fibonacci 50% retracement off the Oct 2007 highs and subsequent decline to 666 (March 2009 lows). I will add that once again I followed my own system and went long when I saw major support hold. In both cases, STU did not recommend going long and only had an opinion after the wave structure was complete: that is, after the move was done.

      In summary, though they have had two major market turn calls fail, I will still keep them. EW does provide a sense of the strength of the particular wave underlying the trend and reasonable expectations for its end. In other words, if you don’t already have a trading system to work alongside EW, then it likely won’t benefit you much.

      For an investor with no such system, one solution could be going long Put Leaps of at least 6 months duration for the major market calls. Such a strategy would not require much capital and could pay off handsomely if they are right.

      To be fair, in reading the two books that they sent as a free gift (you pay shipping) for subscribing, they clearly state that their Elliot Wave analysis, by itself, is not a trading system. To this, I most heartily concur. Good luck to all.

    8. Tony of West Tennessee
      Apr 22 2010, 04:11:25 pm

      I am still a subscriber and I have so far lost at least US$50K because of believing in this publication.

      The whole ElliottWave methodology is based on bearish future of man kind (grand super cycle) and the numeric retracement in what goes up must come down in certain sequence and patterns. Yes, you can expect ElliottWave to be right some time but their odds has been much worse then 50/50.

      The problem is you cannot depend on their general newsletters to make trading decisions (which I did). I even subscribe to their short term updates. Looking back, the minute I start trusting this publication was the day I was doomed.

      I started reading the monthly Theorist which claimed that S&P will top around 9500 in September 2009. Since then, they continue to cry wolf. When I added the Short Term update, it made the matter worse. Every time the newsletter comes, they will say the down turn is coming, or soon to come. They were wrong in every count. Any novice chart reader can tell that there is a good swing upward from the February 2010 moving up, yet the Elliot Wave idiots keep on saying the marketing is going down to the ground (and to Dow 400 eventually).

      Whenever they were wrong, they do not appologize. They just explained it in another wave count variation. Of course they could be right some day. Perhaps in year 2011, 2012.

      If it is a small difference, I can understand. How can you explain being wrong for 7 month to date? Oh yes, they can. There is a wave count explanation for that.

      I am still waiting for the huge down turn to come because I shorted and bought so many puts. However, that day may not come quick enough.

      What am I saying now? Anybody selling you another newsletter is like a poor man working in his garage. Otherwise, he would have been a mini Warren Buffett. A conservative bear calling Dow 3000 is as bad or worse than a senseless bull proclaiming Dow 30000.

      By the way, I gave them good marks on consistency because they have been consistently WRONG.

      In summary, it was my mistake to trust Robert Preachter and his publications. If you want to believe any story like it, just give you money to charity because you will end up losing your shirt anyway.

    9. Greg Pinelli
      Apr 24 2010, 03:23:18 pm

      I’ve subscribed to the Elliot Wave Theorist..Weekly Updates…Financial Forecast and Global Market Perspective for over a year. After reading the previous reviews I can only wonder whether some of the commenters have actually read the Elliot Wave material or any of Bob Prechter’s books explaining the Wave principles.

      Beginning in March 2009 Prechter clearly called the market heavily oversold and said the odds for a Primary wave 2 rebound were very high. Beginning in late Summer 2009 and especially in January 2010 the Financial Forecast and Market updates were calling for a continuation of the market slide seen previously. They clearly warned that this was only probable and that stop losses on short positions should be part of a risk averse strategy. The Primary 3 didn’t develop..and hasn’t. The worst an investor could have done was to be in cash AND have pocketed gains from at least March 2009 thru August of 2009.

      None of the Wave advisories tout individual equities..they provide, instead, a sense of where the markets are moving and where longer lasting, highly profitable trends exist. The only money I’ve lost investing with the Wave principle has been self inflicted! THE WAVE PRINCIPLE DOES NOT..AND NEVER HAS taken an adamant stand in favor of bull or bear markets..it simply calls them as it sees them. They’ve been both bullish and bearish. They now see the current stock euphoria as doomed and a fabrication built on incredible debt.
      If you think unparalleled debt works and can provide the engine for a lasting prosperity then some of the reviews above are spot on..the Elliot Wave letters are not for you.

    10. Kim
      Apr 25 2010, 03:58:03 pm


      As I mentioned already, according to CXOAX http://www.cxoadvisory.com/gurus/Prechter/ Prechter’s accuracy rate is 33%. According to Hulbert, from 1/1/85 through 5/31/09 Prechter’s trading advice would produce an annual loss of -15.4% compared to 9.7% gain in Wilshire 5000 index – http://www.erictyson.com/articles/20090616.

      Makeing random predictions would produce better results. Buying stocks randomly would produce better results as well. -15.4% makes it probably one of the worst newsletetrs.

    11. Pal
      Aug 29 2010, 06:39:53 pm

      I was paying subscriber for six months to the Short Term Update as well as the other basic reports. For three months I evaluated the daily forex anlysis.

      First, let me say that I really really wanted to like the service as I am an options trader and added the service to my list of paying sights to bring more clarity to my understanding of market movements and most importantly to improve my timing of options trades. Keep in mind I was only trying to improve long term trades like 3 months to 2 years out in the future.

      I was incredible shocked to find out how BAD the sentiments were on accuracy. For those not exactly understanding what I mean; timing. It is easy to say the market is going down or going up as you have a 50% chance of being correct on any single day.

      The amazing part of the service was that they could not even get close to hitting 50% accuracy on that simple question on a weekly basis. They, being Steve Hochberg, could not find his way out of a three side room with a single door. For a six week period from July lows in 2010 to mid Aug, Hochberg’s main them is ‘oh, the market is going down basically tomorrow. watch out below’ but to cover his rear he usually but not always lays out two to three alternatives in case they does not happen the other two in order of estimated likelyhood.

      SURPRISE! the least like thing happened 80% of the time during this period and the market recorded a 98% full retracement in five weeks. Hochberg every report relayed the sentiment the market is going down any day now watch out! Finally Hockberg skips town for vacation and hands over reigns to a new guy who drop coverage on the S&P without notice and this guy predicts.. ‘Oh, ok looks like we are going up now!” after five weeks of going up.. BAMM, the next day the market finally goes down. So they missed that call also. It was getting painful now to read the darn thing every three days but I read it dutifully thinking they would get something right.

      Basically, at writing the market has gone up and now sideways for most of two months. I actually kept track and when I cold have flipped a coin and been more accurate on their weekly forecast during this period.

      I also in the first three month paid for daily Forex analysis. Wow was that a joke. Their sentiments were almost never included just reading waves and when they did include sentiments they were wrong about 60% of the time during a month reports.

      Please don’t waist your money on EWI. It seems to me they are more interested in getting on TV and making up claims of how a great they are.. NOT!

      I should say that I have not lost interest in Elliot Wave theory just the Prechtor horse hockey of EWI. Save your dough.

    12. 3 Lions
      Sep 14 2010, 10:41:52 am

      I have been subscribed to EWI Financial Forecast, Theorist and Short Term Update for 7 years with a couple of breaks. I am just about to cancel my subscription FOR THE LAST TIME.

      This is not so much because of the Prechter etc.. but because Elliott Wave Theory is poppycock nowadays. There is some merit for EWT over the long term and Prechter et al.. are logical and I agree with much of their long term analysis. It doesn’t matter which EWT expert you listen to however there is always a “top label pattern” and a “top alternate pattern” and usually one is up and the other down!!!! It is absurd because they claim success whichever is right!!! Prechter has said 3 times a week for 2 years that gold is going down to $600 – one day he will be right.

      When Mr.Elliott devised EWT which is based on herd instinct I am sure he was right but nowadays 70% of stock trades are generated automatically by “nano-second” computers and I am not sure that computers have herd instincts!

      Elliott Wave International is great if you want informative commentary but for making money you might just as well use a MACD chart. Elliott Wave Theory will give you a headache – it is so complicated! Forget it!

    13. Ex-Subscriber
      Sep 19 2010, 01:36:18 am

      I gave EWI 4 stars for consistancy – for being WRONG.  I subscribed to the Short Term Update (STU) over a year ago.  Cost me much more than the subscription.  Below is a copy of the letter I wrote just before cancelling;

      To whom it may concern,

      The STU of June 11, 2010 leaves out a blatant ommission.  It mentioned that the Dow and S&P were below their 200 day moving average, and even drew the line on the Dow chart to illustrate that.  The bearish implications are apparent, and I agree.

      But what the analysts failed to include was that unlike the other two indexes, the Nasdaq Composite IS ABOVE it’s 200 day moving average, and no chart included THAT line.  In fact, the Nasdaq 100 is above it’s 200 AND 20 day moving average, and both Nasdaq’s are above their respective 200 weekly moving averages as well. 

      Unfortunately, this has been the typical unashamed practice of the analysts since August ’09 – not just with charts – but with all areas of data, including surveys, trends, wave counts etc.  I’m certain since then, their biased ommissions have cost them many customers, because their track record leaves the trail.  I’ve wanted to write you about this more often,  only it would have been very time consuming, due to the frequency that it occurs.

      I believe in Elliott Wave Theory,  but EWI customers deserve ALL the facts, even if it doesn’t support the analyst’s one-sided opinions.  A weather man can call for rain every day – dispite contrary evidence – and sooner or later even he will get it right.  

      Yes, the analysts are human and err like the rest of us, they just do it with more consistancy.    In addition – since August of ’09, the omissions, selective analysis and wordsmithing points to a recognition of this fact, and yet it has continued.  None of that hides the track record for any who are sober.

      So where’s the corporate oversight?  Perhaps it’s a top down problem, bias at the top, political presure down the command chain throughout the corporate culture?  Anyone there free to express THEIR analytical results? 

      Objectivity is as important in this field as other fields, and one of the more costly without it.  I’m sure I speak for many others, only they’re no longer around to tell you.  Hopefully that will change.  And maybe too, it will just rain.

      – EWI Subsciber

    14. Brian
      Sep 23 2010, 09:42:23 pm

      I subscribed to this letter for about 2 1/2 years all up on two separate occasions, following their recommendations the first time cost me a fair bit of money, but I gave them another chance because I enjoyed reading their publications, the second time I subscribed I was pretty much wiped out and when reviewing my trading I would have to say it went down hill after subscribing to this news letter, all though managing the money was up to me I am sure that there are plenty of others like me that thought they had an inside edge and went with it.
      With their recommendations generally wrong which just seems to pass by the way side, but you hear it load and clear when they are right.I subscribed to all three publications and finally gave up when the special newsletter came out and said wave 2 is over now is the time to take a fully leveraged short position, it lasted for about 3 days as did my trading account, I wish I could find the actual newsletter so that I could copy the transcript I have an archive but frankly its a too much work to go through for this lot, in summary,their overall bias may well be right and yes they did get it right a couple of times but the wrong out weigh the rights far to often to make any money out of it. Good luck with the trading for all.

    15. Danpar
      Oct 29 2010, 01:34:47 pm

      EWS has been predicted the next big move down for the last 3 months. The market has been in an uptrend for 2 months now. I have been foolish enough to base my trading decisions on a predictive system and now I pay for it.

      One trade that strikes me is silver. I wanted to make a big purchase this summer when silver was around $17. EWI was predicting an imminent move down of al precious metals. I waited and waited for their predicted pullback. Meanwhile siver was making a steady move up and reached $24 as I write this.

      Their wave system is no more than wishfull thinking under the cover of highly technical methodology. If after a couple of weeks the market does not go as predicted they simply reset and rename the waves; very convenient.

      My advice: don’t follow any predictive system. Just follow the trend. Don’t let them influence your trading decisions. You will get locked-in in trades moving the wrong way hoping that their predictions will eventually materialize and you will lose money because you won’t take a stop loss. You will think “the market is going to move my way; EWI said so many times, be patient”.

      They have a market analysis service published 3 times a week.
      The precision and the utility of that trading service is 0. For example, the publisher relies on bull/bear sentiment that can makes weeks or months before starting new trend. Regardless they always give the impression that the move is imminent. And you wait week after week to see the prediction happening and it does not happen and you wait hoping and you lose money in the process.

      The individual publishers of the different services cannot be reached by email. You can only send an email to the customer service. I send a comment once to the publisher and never got an answer.

      The publishers make their money selling subscriptions. You won’t find any model portfolio showing profit/loss.

      I was a member for over 1 year and never lost money so quickly. I was out of the market during sept 2008 because I was following the trend so I did not get hurt when the market crashed. I was back in the market im march 2009 because I was following the trend and started to make money on the long side.

      Then on july 2009 I found EWI and bought a subscription and got a bearish bias that I could not get rid of even when the market was rallying.

      The trend is your friend. There is no way to predict the market.

    16. Steven Vincent
      Jan 28 2011, 06:43:08 pm

      I am in the process of writing a comprehensive critique of Elliott Wave International’s work.

      To read the full article with charts and the subsequent entries in the series go to: http://www.thebullbear.com/profiles/blogs/the-ewi-argument-a-critical

      A Critical Analysis of Robert Prechter and Elliott Wave International
      (March 2009-Present)
      PART 1

      In this article I analyze the recent work of Robert Prechter’s “Elliott Wave International”, evaluating it in terms of the quality of epistemology, methodology, data integrity, interpretation, conclusions, recommendations and results. The analysis is limited in scope to the equities markets since March of 2009. Because of time constraints, counterpoints to much of the EWI argument can only be partially developed here, but I hope to give them a much fuller treatment in my forthcoming book, tentatively entitled, “Apocalypse Not Yet: Wave V and the End of Financialism”.
      The source material for this study is the Elliott Wave Theorist (EWT) and Elliott Wave Financial Forecast (EWFF) as well as numerous writings and audio and video interviews with Robert Prechter and Steve Hochberg. For the sake of simplicity this body of work will be referred to as “EWI”. The author had access to only the following issues for inclusion in this review: EWT issues 09/05, 09/07, 09/11-12, 04/10-12/10 and EWFF issues 09/10-01/11. I have tried to represent the record faithfully from all available sources.
      This report will be delivered in approximately 5 parts with one part released each week. It’s a work in progress so this will be subject to revision along the way.

      Outline of presentation:
      Elliott Wave Analysis
      Epistemological Methodology
      Data: Integrity and Interpretation
      Market Timing
      Alternatives and Conclusions

      General Summary:
      EWI’s Elliott Wave counts are based on an assumption that markets must have peaked at a Grand Supercyle top in 2000 or 2007. There is no consideration of an alternate bullish or bearish scenario on any time frame. It’s epistemology and methodology do not qualify as analysis since all material begins with a predetermined and inviolable conclusion: deflationary depression. Rather than analysis, EWI’s narrative falls under the category of an advocational argument on behalf of a conclusion. In spite of claims that EWI is a technical market analysis service, its reports are comprised primarily of conclusions about the fundamental environment. Assumptions about economic and social fundamentals drive the search for data supportive of the Grand Supercycle and deflationary depression conclusions. Data cited in support of the argument for imminent deflationary depression are in each case highly debatable in terms of relevance or validity and are frequently offset and contradicted entirely by stronger data supportive of an entirely contrary conclusion. All data points are presented to support the base deflationary depression and Grand Supercycle Top assumptions only. The result of a non-analytical, biased and advocational methodology has been consistently erroneous market timing during the period under review. EWI may ultimately be proven right in its argument for the deflationary depression model. There is a viable technical and fundamental argument in support of that view. However, sound analysis must be driven by an objective search for knowledge, understanding and truth. Within the context of a very long term bearish view, the Grand Supercycle Top may yet come but in a time frame far removed from the present and at a much higher price level.

      I. Elliott Wave Analysis
      EWI argues that Elliott Wave patterns in US stock indices indicate a long term top is in place:
      Elliott Wave Analysis: Last month’s “Bottom Line” said, “The rally’s end should come after one more recovery high.” That push is mostly played out as we go to press; when complete, it should lead to a historic downside reversal. Minor wave 5 of Intermediate wave (C) started on November 9 at 10,929.30 in the DJIA. Fifth waves are ending waves, which means that wave 5 will complete the rally from 9614.30, the July low. And the end of the advance from July will mark the top of wave 2, the entire Primary-degree bear market rally that began in March 2009. A top of this magnitude would be entirely consistent with the multi-year extremes in sentiment and the waning upside momentum. (01/11 EWFF)
      Here’s a chart which replicates the most recent long term count from EWI:

      Here the March 2009 low is counted as a Major Wave 1 down and the current high is counted as a partial retracement of that move for a Major Wave 2 high.
      This chart replicates EWI’s count of the move from the April 2010 high:

      Here EWI is calling the April high as the top of a five wave “A” wave, the July bottom as the trough of a three wave “B” wave and the current high as the peak of a 5 wave “C” wave to complete Major Wave 2. Both of these charts represent viable bearish interpretations. I can’t say that they should be dismissed and in fact they should be given serious consideration and in the due course of time they may indeed be proven to reflect the correct market view.
      Let’s look at some equally viable alternative wave counts that any good Elliott Wave analyst should be considering at this juncture. There isn’t time or space here to present the full analysis behind each of these scenarios. In the course of this piece I will introduce some of the background components that support these proposed views. But in this immediate context I merely want to illustrate that there are other, viable Elliott Wave counts which should be considered.

      My current preferred wave count has SPX in a Wave iii of 3 of (3) position. I suspect a subminor ii correction to the zone of the April and November highs, the 61.8% Fibonnacci retracement level of the decline from the 2007 high and the uptrend from the September bottom. If that support does hold then the market is set up for a Wave 3 move four degrees deep. Note the “1-2” punches on at least three (and potentially four) levels of order setting up a Wave 3 combination move. This is just about the most bullish Elliott Wave setup possible. Also note that the 61.8% Fibonacci level of acted as resistance in April and November and was taken out decisively in December. Once that level has been surpassed on a weekly, monthly and yearly basis the chances of a full retracement are significantly enhanced.

      I’ll briefly note in support of the above scenario that SPX has just seen a bull cross of the weekly 50 EMA over the 200 placing the long term moving averages in full bull market alignment. It’s not uncommon for a market to accelerate in a Wave 3 advance off such a flash point.

      An alternative to the above scenario places SPX at the cusp of a Wave 2 correction within a 3 of (3) rally. Wave 2 could easily retrace 50% of the move off the July low and retest the June and August peaks. Recent action seems to make this view less probable.

      An intermediate term bearish yet long term bullish scenario has SPX topping now into a wave B high with a final C leg down to come to complete a large ABC flat correction from the April high. The B wave is a bit unusual in structure and for that reason among others I don’t favor this scenario, but it is worth contemplating.

      In my view, Elliott Wave analysis should at all times contain both bullish and bearish wave counts on multiple time frames and then alternative bull and bear counts as well. The aim is to discover the present (and potentially the future) reality of the market through analysis of its wave structures. In this way the wave principle can be a powerful tool to keep the trader on the right side of the market. EWI apparently uses its wave counts to describe its conclusions about the market, rather than drawing conclusions about the market from an actual analysis of its wave structures. Although its current count calling for an imminent Wave 3 Grand Supercycle decline is definitely feasible there are bullish counts which need to be considered as well.

      In the next segment in this series, I’ll look at EWI’s material in light of its epistemological methodology. What is EWI’s approach to the acquisition and interpretation of knowledge?

    17. Kev B
      Feb 7 2011, 02:12:14 pm

      I’ve been a subscriber for over a year. The most credit I can give them is alternate views so that I do not become so cocky on one side. I remember losing a lot of money in 08 after commodities topped. I didn’t have a good risk management plan in place, but part of that was the rah rah gold, oil, commodities are going even higher.

      They have been uber bearish on silver for quite some time, even though it catapulted beyond their expectations time and time again.

      EWI is useful only because it keeps me aware of dangers lurking in the background. However I will **NOT** use it to as a trading tool. They will not make you money, and will go back to ‘cash would have been the better option’. But there have been spectacular gains that theoretically could have been made (provided you had a good strategy and keep an exit option) while the entire time EWI recommends treasuries.

      I think the general gist is, they may be right eventually – but don’t base your trading stance on them, because their timing may be off by months. You may take a short position as a result, and the market takes off.

      I will give them credit for pointing out certain extremes in the market. However, Hochberg is a regular guest on financialsense.com – so you can get his commentary for free.

    18. Steven Vincent
      Feb 9 2011, 09:42:08 am

      To read the full article with charts and the subsequent entries in the series go to: http://www.thebullbear.com/profiles/blogs/the-ewi-argument-a-critical-1

      A Critical Analysis of Robert Prechter and Elliott Wave International
      (March 2009-Present)
      PART 2

      In the first installment of this series, I examined Robert Prechter and Elliott Wave International’s current wave analysis and proposed some alternate views. In this segment I will examine EWI’s market timing record. First, I’ll run down the history of EWI’s market calls from March 2009 to present. In conclusion, I will analyze a few of the flaws in trading methodology which led to the failed trading results documented here. In subsequent installments of this review I’ll analyze larger issues of data and epistemological methodology that underly EWI’s conclusions of a deflationary depression.
      The source material for this study is the Elliott Wave Theorist (EWT) and Elliott Wave Financial Forecast (EWFF) as well as numerous writings and audio and video interviews with Robert Prechter and Steve Hochberg. For the sake of simplicity this body of work will be referred to as “EWI”. Bold emphasis in quoted text is mine to illustrate key points. All EWI images are drawn from freely available material published online and are linked to their sources.
      To get the most out of this piece it’s best to have a basic understanding of Elliott Wave theory. I selected this tutorial at random from among the many available on the web: http://www.tradingfives.com/articles/elliott-wave-theory-basics.htm.

      II. Market Timing

      For reasons of time and space and access to insufficient data I’ll have to limit the parameters of this discussion to the period of March 2009 to the present. It’s clear that EWI did call a bottom in the US stock markets in late February of 2009 and recommended to subscribers that they cover short positions at that time. Since then Robert Prechter has recommended that subscribers enter 200% fully leveraged short positions on at least three occasions. There is no evidence that EWI has ever called for those short trading positions to be covered and they are assumed to be still open at a substantial net loss. Elliott Wave Financial Forecast has maintained a Primary and Intermediate degree short position going back to at least September 2010 but evidence suggests that that position goes back considerably further, perhaps all the way back to September 2009. Some of the problems of trading methodology leading to the failed results documented here are: a lack of trading discipline, particularly no use of stop losses; a consistent practice of “top picking”; a tendency to regard market analysis as an intellectual exercise rather than a profit making endeavour.

      Bob Prechter and EWI have been calling the top of the presumed corrective wave from the March 2009 low since August of 2009. In July 2009 they began to anticipate the end of the now 23 month long rally after just 4 months:
      On February 23, EWT called for the S&P to bottom in the 600s and then begin a sharp rally, the biggest since the 2007 high. The S&P bottomed at 667 on March 6. Then the stock market and commodities went almost straight up for three months as the dollar fell….The June 11 issue called for interim tops in stocks, metals and oil and a temporary bottom in the dollar. The Dow topped that day and fell nearly 800 points; silver reversed and fell from $16 to $12.45; gold slid about $90; and oil, which had just doubled, reversed and fell from $73.38 to $58.32. The dollar simultaneously rallied and traced out a triangle for wave 4. Bonds bounced as well….Corrective patterns can be complex, so we should hesitate to be too specific about the shape this bear market rally will take. But from lows on July 8 (intraday) and 10 (close), the stock market may have begun the second phase of advance that will fulfill our ideal scenario for a three-wave (up-down-up) rally. (07/09 EWT; The Bounce Is Aging, But The Depression Is Young)
      So by July of 2009 EWI was anticipating a major Wave 2 top to result from a C wave move following the July bottom. In August 2009, after a minor one month abc correction in June/July was followed by a very strong rally to a substantially higher high, the EWI stance turned decisively bearish. In fact, they were so excited by the possibility of a Wave 2 top that they published Elliott Wave Theorist 10 days ahead of schedule:
      Now in his August 2009 Theorist, Bob explains what “the prudent thing to do” in the markets is, based on the same Elliott wave pattern and sentiment indicators — plus the Dow’s 3/8 Fibonacci retracement from the March 9 low…Bob Prechter’s August Elliott Wave Theorist published a week and a half early: he did so to give subscribers time to prepare for what’s ahead. The issue provides a list of levels that mark Fibonacci and Elliott-wave related retracements for the rally. He analyzes which one is the most likely end point, and even explains how you can make the most of the waning rally. Prechter Stands Alone Again… He’s Done the Math
      The Dow has just entered the lower end of its upside target range we cited back in April; the S&P is close behind. Restored optimism for a lengthy recovery at worst – a new bull market at best – is one of several signs of an important peak. All the same markets that recovered together have now set the stage to decline together. And this time there will be no mistake about the next wave down. It will be a “third of a third,” also known as the point of recognition. (08/09 EWFF; ‘Worst Is Over’ Optimism Sets Up Volatile Third Wave Surprise)
      The stock market has been in an upward correction for over two months. Evidence is quite strong that the rally is over. (08/09 EWFF)

      WATCH VIDEO: Bob Prechter on CNBC August 17, 2009 calling an end to the rally.

      Here’s what the market looked like at that time, with the EWI wave count.

      So by mid-August of 2009, EWI called a Wave 2 top following a 38.2% Fibonacci retracement of the decline from the October 2007 high. The market immediately turned higher.

      In September 2009, the warning flag of an imminent Wave 3 decline was still out in spite of yet higher highs:
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      EWI’s view of the market at that time:

      How A Bear Can Be Bullish And Still Be Right: “April 2009 Elliott Wave Financial Forecast calculated a specific target range for the Dow’s rally: the 9,000-10,000 level.”

      In October 2009, EWI sensationally compared the market at that time to the Dow in 1929: Black Monday: Ancient History Or Imminent Future?. Once again, a top was called.
      Yet the extremes in optimism – as measured by unanimously bullish investor surveys and exuberant sentiment readings – point to a dying rally. Momentum and breadth readings support that case, as do telling Elliott wave patterns. From a socionomic standpoint, investor mood has returned to levels of enthusiasm we saw at the high – just as Elliott-minded investors would expect from a wave 2 rally. Once again, EWI analysts are virtually alone in their deflationary forecasts. This issue demonstrates why the mainstream conventional wisdom – just as it did at the top in October 2007 and the bottom in March 2009 – will again miss a major reversal on the horizon. (10/09 EWFF, What to Read When ‘Everyone’ is Bullish)
      [The week of Oct. 12, 2009], the Dow touched 10,000 and the S&P hit 1095, reaching the upper end of our range for a normal rally and fulfilling our original expectations from last March-April. (10/09 EWT; How to Prepare Yourself for the ‘Serious Event’ Ahead)
      For the second time, EWI called a Wave 2 top, this time specifying that the outer limits of its projected range had been met. Later, this “upper end of the range” would magically move much higher with the market. Here’s what the S&P 500 looked like at that time, as EWI moved the C wave higher with the market (red arrows indicate prior top calls):

      This chart from the October 2009 Elliott Wave Theorist attempts to illustrate a rally that is topping due to declining momentum:

      This S&P 500 Chart Tells the Two-Part Truth:
      You see when most of the rally unfolded. Six months of serious worry produces a 373-point climb, whereas “two months of euphoria produces only 57 S&P points.” Now, the two-part truth about this rally is an easy story to tell. It’s literally a few lines and notations on a price chart. Yet have you seen or read ANYTHING like this in the past two weeks? Has anyone else pointed out that over the past two months, the stock market “rally” has in fact slowed to a crawl?
      It’s unclear whether the question is rhetorical, since similar bearish pronouncements were indeed widespread and prevalent at the time. Capitalizing on the overwhelmingly bearish sentiment among traders and investors, readers were invited to access the October 2009 EWT and EWFF for free:
      Eight months ago, the stock market began a very large rally — the gains exceeded 60% in the S&P 500. Everyone knows this. But here’s a fact that has gone virtually unreported: The vast majority of those gains (about 90%) were from March through August. By comparison, September and October were sluggish.
      Yet the past two months have been the very time when the financial press has been the loudest about “green shoots,” “recovery” and “new bull market.” So the question is WHY — why so much enthusiasm, even as the evidence literally fades away?
      No one asks questions like this, never mind provides the answers. The one exception is Bob Prechter. And if most investors suddenly DID learn the details of his answer… well, the information would buckle their knees.
      Prechter does of course provide a detailed answer in his current Elliott Wave Theorist. The latest Elliott Wave Financial Forecast expands on that answer. You can read both award-winning monthly market letters right now for free!
      But let me be clear: The answer is in fact a forecast. What Prechter says is bigger and more important than these two publications. It could prove to be the most important forecast he has offered since the financial debacle began. (Robert Prechter Latest Financial Market Analysis)
      In early November of 2009, while simultaneously citing “declining volume during the rally” as a signal of a top, EWI also cited “record high dollar trading volume” as evidence of excessive bullishness:
      We do know one thing: When everyone is thinking the same, the opposite will happen.
      Right now, record high dollar volume of trading shows that confidence, at least on this basis, has reached a new historic extreme. (11/09 EWFF)
      EWI apparently attempted to pick a top in early November in a short term update:
      EWI Chief Market Analyst Steve Hochberg wrote in his Wednesday Short Term Update, “(On Tuesday), the VIX closed back within two standard deviations of its 20-period moving average, which for the past seven months, has resulted in a near-term rally.”
      On Wednesday, stocks closed up;
      Thursday saw a huge rally.
      On Friday morning, the Dow regained the 10,000 level. But the Update reports that the “next leg (down) … is fast approaching.” (Robert Prechters Stocks Latest Bear Market Update)
      Also in November 2009, EWI insisted that momentum was waning and that a top was around the corner:
      We’re now in mid-November; the move up from March became the biggest rally in more than five years. Yet the facts are these: Gold is the only commodity to reach an all-time high, the Dow Industrials the only stock index to see a new closing high on the year. A seasoned technical analyst knows this is a classic “non-confirmation” — and Bob Prechter is a lot more than just seasoned. Here’s what he says in his brand-new November 2009 Elliott Wave Theorist: “Only the bluest of the blue chip markets in both the stock and the commodity sectors – i.e. the DJIA and gold – made significant new highs, while their lesser counterparts have so far all failed to confirm. This type of divergence in trends is the most traditional of all technical conditions warning of distribution.” The “experts” apparently think that a few months of financial chaos in late 2008-early 2009 was as bad as it’s going to get. They’d have you believe (hope?) that those few months is all it took to reverse a mania that was decades in the making. But our technical indicators aren’t based on hope. They give us the facts and the evidence. That’s why we ignored the experts in July 2007 and February 2009, and why we ignore them now. Don’t allow the recovery hype to put your portfolio at risk. You can read a market forecast that truly is independent. How to Identify the Continuing and Looming Deflationary Forces

      …the just-published November 2009 Elliott Wave Financial Forecast sums up what Elliott investors expect next: “This trend reversal also provides an early warning signal that the economic rebound that so many are hailing is near an end.” Has the Optimistic Bias of the Past Decade Finally ‘Hit the Wall’?

      In late November of 2009, Bob Prechter appeared on CNBC to call the top yet again. It’s interesting that the “Fast Money” crew largely agrees with his prediction that “we are in for a very large decline in 2010…at least as big as what we saw in ’08”, which contrasts sharply with his characterization of sentiment as excessively bullish at the time.

      WATCH VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz5PrY2gjz0

      Prechter then proceeded to recommend a 200% fully leveraged short position to subscribers:

      Here’s what the market looked like at the time:

      December of 2009 was the first month since August that EWI did not attempt to pick a top in the market. It instead focused on fundamentalist arguments for a pessimistic view of future market activity: What the Government Doesn’t Want You to Know and How it Can Hurt You in 2010

      In spite of a continued rally, in late December EWI predicted that 2010 would bring a major decline:
      Back in the late 1990s, when the “unstoppable” NASDAQ began to experience regular days of double-digit drops, it was “Buy-the-Dip.” Now, it’s “buy the entire lost decade.” And, as the Dec.31, 2009 Elliott Wave Financial Forecast Short Term Update reveals — current sentiment readings “continue to show that stock market bears have packed up and moved to Florida for the winter.”
      The Dec. 31 Short Term Update also reveals two mind-blowing charts of the S&P 500 versus Investor Intelligence Advisors Survey Percentage of Bears — AND, the S&P 500 versus the percentage of “Fully Committed” bullish advisors since 2000. The current reading is the lowest bearish percentage in 22 years.
      Take one look at the evidence, and you’ll see that a defining pattern emerges: Low levels of bearishness have consistently coincided with one kind of market move. Combine this picture with the other measures of investor sentiment like momentum, volume and Elliott wave structure, and the evidence tilts overwhelmingly in favor of an unforgettable year. (New Year New Economic Boom? Why 2010 Should Be One to Remember)
      Here’s how the chart looked at the end of 2009:

      The market finished the year above all three of Prechter’s top calls.

      In mid-January, once again, Prechter recommended a 200% fully leveraged short position: http://yelnick.typepad.com/yelnick/2010/01/prechter-recommends-200-short-again.html

      In late January, EWI cited “cash on the sidelines” as an reason for picking a top in the market:
      Myth — Cash on the sidelines is bullish for stocks: This refrain rang like a gong all the way through the declines of 2000-2002 and 2007-2009. In February 2000, when mutual fund cash hit 4.2% (compared to 3.8% in November), The Elliott Wave Financial Forecast issued its “cash is king” advice. Once again, the word on the street is that there is way too much “cash on the sidelines” for stocks to fall precipitously. This chart shows net cash available to investors plotted beneath the DJIA. In December 2007, available net cash expanded to a new high, besting all extremes since at least 1992, a 15-year time span. Despite the presence of this mountain of cash, the DJIA lost more than half its entire value over the next 15 months. Indeed, as the chart shows, cash remained high right as the stock market entered the most intense part of the crash in 2008. Available cash does correlate with the market’s moves, but the market is in charge, not the cash. –The Elliott Wave Financial Forecast, Jan. 29, 2010

      (Stock Market Crashing Through With Cash, Market Myths Exposed)

      In early February, EWI was ebullient as the market had corrected over the course of a three week period:
      In case you were hiding out Tiger Woods’ style far away from the mainstream media during the past month, let me be the first to say: January saw an abrupt end to the U.S. stock market’s record-setting winning streak. Last count, the Dow Jones Industrial Average plummeted 4% in its worst monthly loss in a year.
      And, according to one Feb. 1, 2010, MarketWatch story, “The time to consider an exit strategy” has officially arrived. Here, the article captures the public’s astonishment turned acceptance of the Dow’s boom-to-gloom shift:
      “The Dow has shocked the bulls out of their complacency. After all, analysts were looking for the bull market to last until at least the second half of the year. Investors were not prepared for such a sharp decline and now at least some of the chatter has gone from ‘how high will the market go?’ to ‘how low will it fall?'”.
      Let me get this straight. The powers that be say it’s time to “consider an exit strategy” — AFTER the Dow has already plunged 700-plus points to land at its lowest level in two months. That’s about as helpful as building a life raft AFTER your ship has begun to sink.
      Then, those same sources go on to say investors were “not prepared” for the degree and depth of the stock market’s decline. This is only partly true. On Main Street, the early January flood of bull-is-back-type headlines gushed in and washed all the bears away.
      Yet, on our “Elliott wave” Street, preparation for a “sharp” decline in the Dow was fast in place. One week before the market turned down from its Jan. 19 high, Elliott Wave International’s Short Term Update went on high bearish alert with this commanding insight:
      “The Dow’s diagonal remains intact and its form is clear. We will afford the pattern a bit of leeway over the next one-two days… but the structure is very late in development. That means a trend reversal is fast approaching. A potential topping range is 10,725-10,740. A close beneath [critical support] will confirm that the diagonal is over and the market has started a down phase that should draw prices significantly lower. Once a diagonal is complete, prices swiftly retrace to near its origin, which in this case is 10,263.90, the very first downside target.” (Jan. 13 Short Term Update)
      Soon after, the Dow peaked within four ticks of our cited upside target; next, it went on to fulfill the second part of its Elliott wave script with a staggering triple-digit slide to “near the origin” of the diagonal triangle pattern, and then some.
      That leaves one question: Are the bears now ready to relinquish control of stocks? Don’t wait for the market action to “shock” you. (U.S. Stocks: Will The Bears Relinquish Control?)
      This pronouncement of a major top was released a few days after the bottom of what turned out to be a minor, garden variety abc correction. For a few days, at least, EWI was in the money. Here’s the chart through that date:

      Later in February, EWI turned to a fundamental argument to buttress its predictions of an eventual stock market decline:
      Bullish expectations (shown by the top three panels) may not be quite as extreme as they were in 2007, but adjusted for underlying economic conditions (bottom panels), the current psychology probably ranks right up there with the most complacent outlook in history. The charts of housing, consumer credit and unemployment show the systemically sluggish state of the economy. We know that fundamentals always lag psychological trends, but the lag is generally only a matter of months. It’s been nearly 11 months since the outset of the Primary wave 2 rally; by these critical economic measures the rebound is barely registering.The wide disparity between the hope of investor expectations and the reality of economic strength shows that the great bear market — already ten years old — remains in its early stages. As the next leg down matures, hope will turn to despair, and it will become impossible to ignore the persistence of the economic contraction.

      (What Chinese Malls Tell Us about the Economic Reality)

      In April of 2010 EWI correctly pointed out a set of conditions which made a market top likely:
      It is rare to have technical indicators all lined up on one side of the ledger. They were lined up this way — on the bullish side — in late February-early March of 2009. Today they are just as aligned but on the bearish side. Consider this short list:
      The latest report shows only 3.5% cash on average in mutual funds. This figure matches the all-time low, which occurred in July 2007, the month when the Dow Industrials-plus-Transports combination made its all-time high. But wait. The latest report pertains only through February. In March, the market rose virtually every day, so there is little doubt that the percentage of cash in mutual funds is now at an all-time low, lower than in 2000, lower than in 2007! We will know for sure when the next report comes out in early May. Regardless, the confidence that mutual fund managers and investors express today for a continuation of the uptrend rivals their optimism of 2000 and 2007, times of the two most extreme expressions of stock-market optimism ever.
      The 10-day moving average of the CBOE Equity Put/Call Ratio has fallen to 0.45, which means that the volume of trading in calls has been more than twice that in puts. So, investors are interested primarily in betting on further rising prices, not falling prices, and that’s bearish. The current reading is less than half the level it was thirteen months ago and its lowest level since the all-time peak of stock market optimism from January 1999 to September 2000, the month that the NYSE Composite Index made its orthodox top. The 30-day average stands at 0.50, the lowest reading since October 2000. It took years of relentless rise following the 1987 crash for investors to get that bullish. This time, it’s taken only 13 months.
      The VIX, a measure of volatility based on options premiums, has been sitting at its lowest level since May 2008, when wave (2) of ((1)) peaked out and led to a Dow loss of 50% over the next ten months. Low premiums indicate complacency among options writers. The quants who designed the trading systems that blew up in 2008 generally assumed that low volatility meant that the market was safe, so at such times they would advise hedge funds to raise their leverage multiples. But low volatility is actually the opposite, a warning that things are about to change. The fact that the options market gets things backward is a boon to speculators. Whenever options writers are selling options cheap, the market is likely to move in a big way. Combined with the readings on the Equity Put/Call Ratio, puts right now are a bargain.
      In October 2008 at the bottom of wave 3 of (3) of ((1)), the Investors Intelligence poll of advisors (which has categories of bullish, bearish and neutral), reported that more than half of advisors were bearish. In December 2009, it reported only 15.6% bears. This reading was the lowest percentage since April 1987, 23 years ago! As happens going into every market top, the ratio has moderated a bit, to 18.9% bears. In 1987, the market also rallied four months past the extreme in advisor sentiment. Then it crashed. The bull/bear ratio in October 2008 was 0.4. In the past five months, it has been as high as 3.4.
      The Daily Sentiment Index, a poll conducted by Trade-Futures.com, reports the percentage of traders who are bullish on the S&P. The reading has been registering highs in the 86-92% range ever since last September. Prior to recent months, the last time the DSI saw even a single day’s reading at 90% was June 2007. At the March 2009 bottom, only 2% of traders were bullish, so today’s readings make quite a contrast in a short period of time.
      The Dow’s dividend yield is 2.5%. The only market tops of the past century at which this figure was lower are those of 2000 and 2007, when it was 1.4% and 2.1%, respectively. At the 1929 high, it was 2.9%.
      The price/earnings ratio, using four-quarter trailing real earnings, has improved tremendously, from 122 to 23. But 23 is in the area of the peak levels of P/E throughout the 20th century. Ratios of 6 or 7 occurred at major stock market bottoms during that time. P/E was infinite during the final quarter of 2008, when E was negative. We will see quite a few quarters of infinite P/E from 2010 to 2017.
      The Trading Index (TRIN) is a measure of how much volume it takes to move rising stocks vs. falling stocks on the NYSE. The 30-day moving average of daily closing TRIN readings has been sitting at 0.90, the lowest level since June 2007. This means that it has taken a lot of volume to make rising stocks go up vs. making falling stocks go down over the past 30-plus trading days. It means that buyers of rising stocks are expending more money to get the same result that sellers of declining stocks are getting. Usually long periods of low TRIN exhaust buying power.
      I always feel obligated to say that indicators such as these do not necessarily pinpoint turns. From October 1998 through May 2008, technical indicators repeatedly reached extremes such as these and sometimes the market kept going up anyway, at least for awhile.
      One of the most interesting things about the coming decline will be its initial slide down the Slope of Hope. The past ten years have seen an unprecedented sustaining of optimism in the face of deteriorating financial market and monetary conditions and a deteriorating economy. Even though the market is about to begin its greatest decline ever, the era of hope is not quite finished. (04/10 EWT; (Robert Prechter, What Do These 8 Technical Indicators Mean for the Stock Market?)
      EWI has presented this same list of indicators at each juncture since August of 2009 (and continues to do so) as representing clear signals that the ultimate top is at hand. I am going to reserve dissection of these data points for the next part in this series, but I will point out that while in part set of conditions has proven to be somewhat useful in identifying intermediate and short term declines within a bull trend, as Prechter himself points out above, but not largely applicable to identifying long term market turns. I also called a top in April of 2010 based on a variety of technical indicators, including many of the same conditions included in EWI’s reports, and the completion of a five wave pattern off the March 2010 bottom. And for some time I did hold out the possibility that the bear market had returned. I turned bullish in August following the July bottom and even more bullish at the September bottom.
      Prechter presented the following commentary and chart to illustrate the anticipated topping zone for the Dow Jones:
      As far as Elliott waves go, the rally since last March is totally normal. Two weeks off the low of March 2009, our Short Term Update published an upside target of Dow 10,000. So we knew a big rally was coming.
      The August issue listed the range for typical retracement as being from 9368 to 11,620. This is a wide range, but there is nothing we can do about it; second waves have a lot of leeway. The illustration shown in that issue is reproduced below alongside an update of market prices. The Dow has so far stayed within the normal range.”
      Even so, I expected the rally to peak in the lower half of the target range then reverse. In August 2009, after 5 months, and in November, after 8 months, I was quite sure that the rally was ending. But instead of stopping near 10,000 at a 50% retracement, it has reached a 60% retracement. (Robert Prechter’s Stock Market Trend Forecast 2010 to 2016)
      Please note that the “range for typical retracement” somehow grew from Dow 9,000-10,000 in April of 2009 to 9368-11,620 in April 2010. I’ll also note that with the failure of the January decline to result in a major top, EWI shifted from labeling the rally as a simple ABC correction to a complex combination correction. In this report, EWI also introduced the concept of a massive long term head and shoulders top in the Dow:

      I’ll briefly point out here that since the proposed right shoulder has now taken out the left shoulder high the probability that this formation will complete and succeed is significantly diminished.
      Here’s a picture of the market through that date:

      EWI proceeded to call “The Top” of the presupposed Wave 2 correction with its next series of reports:
      Fibonacci Time Relationships Suggest That the Biggest Stock Market Top Formation of All Time Is Ending in 2010 and That a Price Collapse Will Last Six Years, Until 2016.
      Why a Historically Large Collapse Is Likely: Stock-market bulls and most economists think that a new bull market and economic recovery are underway. Most bears are looking for either a long sideways bear market a la 1966-1982 or a hyperinflationary run to infinity. Our Elliott wave outlook opposes both of these scenarios. The most likely profile is a stock market crash of historic proportions. There are a number of reasons why the Dow should decline into three digit territory…
      Obviously, this outlook is extreme beyond all investors’ present imagining. But consider how these socionomic expectations combine to indicate much lower prices: Downward adjustments in stock-market valuations by 60%, corporate worth by 80% and the dollar-based credit supply by 80%—all at the same time—would produce an overall stock-price decline of 98-99%. I consider a forecast of a 92% decline or more—i.e. calling for a triple-digit Dow—to be conservative.
      One of the most interesting things about the coming decline will be its initial slide down the Slope of Hope. The past ten years have seen an unprecedented sustaining of optimism in the face of deteriorating financial market and monetary conditions and a deteriorating economy. Even though the market is about to begin its greatest decline ever, the era of hope is not quite finished.
      Second waves rekindle optimism. Recall the environment after the peak of October 2007. The stock market slipped for a month and then rallied in Minor wave 2 into December; the consensus called for new highs…The decline that begins in 2010 will proceed along similar lines. But this time the entire decline will last four times as long as the 17 months of wave 1, so the entire process of dashed hopes will take longer. The fall will also be much deeper, so it will be impressive to watch how tenaciously investors, government and the Fed cling to hopes despite the market’s continual falls to new lows. The era of hope will end when the last second wave is over and the last cycle has topped, just before the center of the declining structure. (05/10 EWT)
      …the Dow does not yet sport five waves down at Intermediate degree. So, the wave pattern has yet to confirm a new downtrend. But two things strongly suggest that a new wave of bear market is in force. First, volume continues to expand on declines and contract on rallies. Second, volatility has soared since the market’s peak. These two conditions attend bear markets way more often than bull markets. We therefore maintain our opinion that the April 26 high was the end of the bear market rally that started in March 2009. (06/10 EWT)
      As the market bottomed in July and rallied sharply, Prechter proclaimed the end for stocks once again:
      The April 16, 2010 issue of The Elliott Wave Theorist, titled “A Deadly Bearish Big Picture,” provided our roadmap for the next half dozen years in the stock market. Stocks are down from that point, yet as the companion issue of May 8 predicted, financial commentary has remained steadfastly bullish. The majority has hailed every rally since April as marking the resumption of a bull market. Following a gentlemanly article in the New York Times on July 4, my call for a serious resumption of the bear market is being dismissed and ridiculed in the press. This is the way it should be because social mood, which regulates general stock market opinion, is once again historically elevated.
      As for the short term outlook, the stock market rallies of June and July have the earmarks of a “wave 2″, implying that a powerful “wave 3” down lies directly ahead. Even if it doesn’t happen right away, it will occur eventually, so we are maintaining our stance of extreme safety and waiting for the market to issue its verdict. (07/10 EWT)
      At this point three of EWI’s top picks were in the green and two were underwater:

      In August, as the uptrend resumed and made its first high, EWI again called for a resumption of the bear market:
      The stock market has been in an upward correction for over two months. Evidence is quite strong that the rally is over. The July-August rally is taking a wedge shape, especially in the S&P and NASDAQ. Wedge shapes are usually terminal. Times when they are not are resolved with huge breadth and volume in a continuation of the trend. A surge of that type is the only thing that can rescue this market from a downside reversal. The latest stock market rallies have the earmarks of a “wave 2”, implying that a powerful “wave 3” likes directly ahead. (08/10/10 EWT Interim Update)
      In September, as the market made a higher low and accelerated to the upside, EWI signaled a “resumption of the downtrend”:
      Every short-term upward stab in stocks keeps investors hoping that the bear market is finally over. It is not. The larger downtrend returned back in late April, and stocks are setting up for a powerful leg lower…The DJIA’s worst August in nine years (-4.3%) should signal the resumption of the downtrend that began in April, as The Elliott Wave Financial Forecast called for a month ago. As we also pointed out last month, August can be a big month for trend changes. We were specifically referring to a long line of stock market reversals discussed in EWT and EWFF. As the Dow now abandons the territory traversed through this 13-year topping process, the last vestiges of extreme optimism produced by the Great Bull Market will be wrung out and a dramatic bear market alteration of the social order will pick up speed.
      On a shorter term basis, the stock market completed the right shoulder of an eight month-long head-and-shoulders topping pattern on August 9 when the DJIA pushed to 10,720, essentially matching the termination level of the left shoulder at 10,730 on January 19. A close beneath the down-sloping neckline at 9500 will confirm the completion of the pattern and target the area near 8000 for a measured move. Eventually, the March 6, 2009 low of 6470, the low point within the entire 13-year top shown on the upper chart, will fall in conjunction with a significant spike in volatility.
      The August 9 high — 10,720 in the Dow and 1129 in the S&P — marks the top of Minor wave 2, which traced out an upward expanded flat labeled a-b-c. Wave c formed a wedge, which is classic ending pattern. Observe the waning upside momentum in the rise to this high, as depicted by the contracting daily NYSE volume, another attribute of terminating wave….With stocks still descending in a long-term bear market, interest in stock trading has waned, as seen in the dearth of daily trading volume on the NYSE. By some estimates, it is at an 11-year low.
      In summary, the evidence is strong that the bear market’s next leg down is underway. (09/10 EWFF)
      As the markets continued to climb, Prechter insisted that the rally was “a counter-trend move”:
      On April 16, 2010, at the peak of the new orgy of stock market optimism, EWT issued an in-depth study of cycles, waves, technical patterns and indicators titled “A Deadly Bearish Big Picture.” Ten days later, the market peaked…The sideways market of the past four months has been well within our description of how things would play out. The second-wave rally is rekindling optimism…Optimism will remain investors’ default mood during this entire time. We expected a stair-step decline from the April high and said that every rally through at least 2011 and maybe 2012 would be greeted as the resumption of a bull market. This is exactly what’s been happening…The April high in the S&P was 1220. On the day of the “flash crash,” which was May 6, the S&P closed at 1128. It has not closed above even that level for a single day in the four months since May 17. Yet optimism remains dominant…One indicator of slackening momentum during this time does have implications about the future: the volume pattern. Volume has diminished on the rallies this summer, and it has especially retreated during the September rally to date. This tells you that upside momentum, despite investors’ optimism, is terrible. The market has been attracting volume when it falls but not when it rises…the market’s rallies since the April high are counter-trend moves. (09/10 EWT)
      At the end of September, Bob Prechter appeared on CNBC and, even as the markets surged in the strongest ninth month rally since the Great Depression, sensationally predicted that the Dow would fall to 1000.

      WATCH VIDEO: CNBC—Sept. 27, 2010–Robert Prechter, president of Elliott Wave International, tells CNBC he’s extremely bearish on the market and expects the Dow to fall below 1,000 within the next six years.

      At this time 3 out the 5 EWI top calls were in the red:

      EWI incorrectly called a C wave top in October 2010, suggesting that a complex “double three” pattern had completed:
      The set up is very strong for the start of an across-the-board decline in most markets. Several important wave relationships indicate that a return to the larger downtrend is imminent…An across-the-board optimistic extreme over the past four months has lifted stocks, the euro, commodities and precious metals. This rise is almost certainly ending as we go to press. The stock market is on the cusp of completing a second wave rally high, having partially retraced the decline that started in April. A definitive wave structure suggests that the next leg of the ongoing bear market is at hand.
      A time correspondence within wave Y makes the case for a top even stronger…if wave 2 up concludes during this time period, the last upward zigzag of the correction will feature a low-to low equals high-to-high time relationship as well as a low-to-high time correspondence between the two rally legs. Thus, pattern, price and time have converged to make a case that the start of wave 3 down is imminent. (10/10 EWFF)
      The September issue reiterated that optimism will remain dominant for another two years even though markets will be resuming bear trends. This month, optimism has become too extreme to sustain. Elliott waves combined with sentiment measures indicate some imminent turns…The Elliott Wave Financial Forecast made the case that Minor wave 2 in the stock market is ending. Overall breadth today was again very narrow, and the NASDAQ may have completed an ending diagonal at today’s close. Minor wave 3 should carry the S&P down about 400 points over the next few months. A drop of that magnitude would close the chapter on the Right Shoulder of the great Dow top. (10/10 EWT)
      Obviously, the predicted 400 point SPX drop did not occur and the wave count would be subsequently revised to reflect even higher prices. The October 2010 edition of Elliott Wave Theorist concludes with this catastrophic recommendation:
      Strategy update: The only bullish chart in the financial pantheon is that for the U.S. dollar. Investors should avoid everything else. Traders should stay short the S&P and sell short the euro. If you are a speculator who joined us after January 2010 and are not already short the stock market, use this opportunity to take a maximum leveraged short position. If you want to take a flyer shorting precious metals or certain commodities, our Metals and Commodities Special Services track these markets daily. (10/10 EWT)
      MarketWatch.com’s Mark Hulbert noted that Prechter recommeded “that traders allocate 200% of their stock trading portfolios to shorting the stock market” and commented that “this helps to explain why the newsletter’s timing advice for traders is in last place for performance over the last 20 years among all stock market timing strategies tracked by the Hulbert Financial Digest.”
      In November, EWI called the top yet again:
      Stocks continued to rally through October, carrying the blue chip indexes above the April highs. In doing so, however, several measures of investor sentiment hit optimistic extremes that exceed those recorded at the October 2007 all-time Dow high. Yet, the Dow and S&P each remain well beneath their respective 2007 peaks, providing a potentially potent reversal signal…Stocks are near the end of the rise from at least late August. Technical conditions are about as ripe for this turn as they were in late 2007…Instead of resuming the larger bear market last month, as we presumed, stocks continued their upward push. The DJIA’s rise past its April high at 11,258 means that Primary wave 2 is still unfolding. The rally from March 2009 to April 2010 was wave (A); the decline to 9614 in July was wave (B) and the rise since this low is wave (C). A complete (A)-(B)-(C) will mark the top of 2…A new multi-year high in investor optimism is occurring even as the internal strength of the market’s push is lagging. For instance, the 10-day average of the NYSE advance/decline ratio and the 10-day NYSE up/down volume ratio…made their respective countertrend rally highs on September 15. Despite the new Dow recovery high, each oscillator has so far remained beneath its September high…. These measures taken together paint a clear picture: fewer stocks are participating in the rally, which often occurs prior to a trend reversal. These conditions do not indicate that one should be buying the market. They indicate exactly the opposite: that one should be focusing intently on an impending change of trend from up to down. (11/10 EWFF)
      Perhaps sensing that the November decline would not begin the long awaited bear market, Prechter called for “one more” final wave to complete the presumed top:
      In April, the Dow Industrial Average reached a 61.8% retracement of the 2007-009 decline on an intraday basis, and we were sure that was it. The S&P at the time achieved only a 60.8% retracement. The Dow has now traveled to a 64.5% retracement intraday (64.3% using daily closes), while the S&P 500 index has reached a 61.8% retracement on daily closing basis….The best wave count, as shown in the October EWFF, labels the recent high as wave 3 of (C), indicating one more high of Minor degree to come. Within the double top of 2007, the technical condition of the market was notably worse at the second peak thant the first. This year, the technical condition is more bearish in November than it was in April. Upside momentum is far less now than in April, as evidenced by the lower 10-day a/d and upside/downside volume ratios. At the same time, sentiment has crystallized to extreme bullishness. In April, we figured that the highest percentages of bulls since the all-time high of October 2007 was enough for the end of Primary wave 2. Apparently not. In November, the Daily Sentiment Index for S&P traders reached 94% bulls, and the American Association of Individual Investors’ poll reached 57.6% bulls. Both readings are the highest since January 2007, nearly four years ago. Investors Intelligence just reported 56.2% bulls, the highest level since the 56.5% of December 2007. Investors have swallowed the “omnipotent Fed” argument, and it shows. Perhaps this condition (along with GM’s near-record IPO) is fitting for the peak of the right shoulder of the biggest head & shoulders pattern ever formed. As far as I’m concerned, nothing has changed except for the worse. The stock market is a terrible value and a technical disaster, and it has been at all three tops this year. The Fed’s QE2 announcement will probably prove to be one of the most expensive “buy signals” of all time. Stay liquid. (11/10 EWT)
      This marked a change in the structure of EWI’s wave count, but not its trading position, which remained short. At this point all of EWI’s top picks and short calls were underwater with the exception of the April 2010 call:

      In December, EWI seemed a bit desperate to defend its crumbling credibility, looking to Wikileaks, junk bonds and sovereign debt to spark the predicted collapse:
      A top in stocks may not be in place just yet, but the credit/liquidity crisis that roiled financial markets beginning in late 2007 is re-asserting itself. This alignment suggests that the next phase of the bear market will encompass nearly all freely traded markets, just as it ultimately did in 2008. For stocks, the rally’s end should come after one more new recovery high. The backdrop of multi-year, optimistic extremes in various sentiment measures is already in place. The fear of default on junk debt has waned to a level that also indicates the start of the downturn is rapidly approaching.
      In October 2007…The Elliott Wave Financial Forecast cited the critical importance of “the forecasted credit contraction,” which was “very much in evidence,” at that time. “Liquidity is clearly drying up as confidence wanes and a steady movement toward an across-the-board decline is happening,” stated EWFF. November 2010 represents a larger version of the same scenario. Fears of default are once again mounting, in the same manner. The current threat moved from Greece in the early part of 2010 to Ireland, as the Dow pushed to a November 5 high. Last week, the debt fear spread rapidly to Portugal, Spain and Italy. According to the latest accounts, it is now moving from the “euro-zone periphery to the core, with Belgium coming under the most pressure followed by France.”
      The best wave formation indicates that stocks are tracing out Minor wave 4, which started at the November 5 highs. Since wave 2 was a sharp pullback, the guideline of alternation indicates that wave 4 should be a sideways correction. A triangle or flat, both members of the sideways family of corrections, would fulfill the guideline. In both near-term scenarios, wave b of 4 is complete, or very nearly so.
      The big takedown will come in 2011 when Julian Assange, the publisher of secret documents through his website Wikileaks.org, says he will turn his attention to Wall Street. He compares Wikileaks’ next Megaleak to the “damning e-mails that poured out of the Enron trial,” as stocks slipped lower in 2001 and 2002.
      Of course, the emerging bear market in mood is huge, so it’s not as if the media needs evidence. On November 22, The New York Times was already asking, “Can Wall Street Justify Its Existence?” A subsequent New Yorker headline seemed to answer: “Much of What Investment Bankers Do Is Socially Worthless.”
      After years of social adulation, it will only take an incremental reduction in risk assumption to tip the scales against the markets.
      Our view remains that this environment is perfect for eliminating any and all junk debt from one’s portfolio, as deflation will ravage everything but the highest quality bonds. The torpedoing of European sovereign debt and the biggest monthly drop of the year for U.S. tax exempt municipal bonds means that the trend toward increasing distress is probably already underway. (12/10 EWFF)
      As the year wound to a close with no sign of an end to the bull trend, Prechter seemed to run out of bearish items to support his thesis of a decline to Dow 1000, vaguely asserting the beginning of a “panic into cash”:
      To summarize the situation, the technical condition of the stock market is compatible with an approaching resumption of the Supercycle-degree bear market under the Elliott wave model. By definition most other traders, investors, advisors, money managers and economists view a bearish outcome as remote. Sentiment is crystallizing so strongly that economists and market strategists have rushed to raise their estimates for 2011…Since December, despite continuing new highs in the S&P, new highs on the NYSE have continued to slip…The entire picture is one of lessening upside momentum over the past eight months, five weeks and one week…I have been warning for a long time that there will be a panic into cash before this bear market is over. Even though investors are intensely bullish on stocks, precious metals, commodities and junk bonds, there has nevertheless been a stealth move toward holding cash. (12/10 EWT)

      WATCH VIDEO: Bob Prechter on CNBC, December 30, 2010: “Not a bear among them”

      The New Year did nothing to dampen EWI’s enthusiasm for a disastrous future. Once again, they called a top:
      Can you feel the excitement toward stocks as 2011 arrives? It’s palpable. This sentiment extreme combined with a complete wave structure places the stock market on the cusp of a major decline. There’s a good chance the New Year will start with a bang across the breadth of the financial markets. Check out this front page headline from the December 17 USA Today. According to the story, “Five Wall Street heavyweights say it’s time for individual investors to get over their fear of the U.S. stock market.” Follow-up headlines in the Money section added: “In 2011, It’s All About Stocks” and “5 Top Experts Agree: New Year’s Looking Great for Stocks.”…It seems that not a single major money manager interviewed by the financial press is telling people that 2011 will be a down year…Let’s be clear: These firms and individuals are highly talented and successful. But a crowd is a crowd, no matter how much talentnd money it may possess. When opinion becomes so lopsided that there is not a “bear among them,” it almost always pays to take the other side of that stance…High % bullish readings (i.e. 90% or higher) suggest that a short-term top is developing or has been made. Low % bullish readings (i.e. 10% or lower) suggest that a short term bottom is developing or has been made…Last month’s Bottom Line said, “The rally’s end should come after one more recovery high.” That push is mostly played out as we go to press; when complete, it should lead to a historic downside reversal. Minor wave 5 of Intermediate wave (C) started on November 9 at 10,929.30 in the DJIA. Fifth waves are ending waves, which means that wave 5 will complete the rally from 9614.30, the July low. And the end of the advance from July will mark the top of wave 2, the entire Primary-degree bear market rally that began in March 2009. A top of this magnitude would be entirely consistent with the multi-year extremes in sentiment and the waning upside momentum. (01/11 EWFF)
      In spite of a continued bull move in January, Bob Prechter predicted that 2011 would see a bear market:
      2011 Should Be a Down Year Across the Board: On the heels of record optimism in two dozen markets, the year 2011 is setting up to be a down year in every popular investment. ..Cash should outperform virtually everything…the NASDAQ 100 should soon begin tracing out wave c down, which will bring it substantially below its 2002 low of 95.25…I suspect that the Dow will fall back below the 2/3 retracement level with just as much enthusiasm as it showed in getting above it. Second waves can retrace 99% of first waves, but they usually don’t, and at this point I’m out of expected levels…Despite the market’s tendency to stretch on the upside, the great Head & Shoulders top formation in the DJIA dating from 2000 has so far managed to maintain its structure. Because it has a down-sloping neckline—i.e. the 2009 low is below the 2002 low—I expected a lower peak on the right shoulder. The high reading on the left shoulder in January 2000 is 11,750, and the high reading so far, on January 5, is 11,743. If that day marks the high of the right shoulder, the market went as far as it could without skewing the normal shape of the pattern…The last time the Dow ended an Elliott wave of Primary degree on the cusp of the year was 1976, 34% years ago. Then Primary wave 1 topped on December 31; this time Primary wave 2 may have topped on January 5. (01/11 EWT)
      Into early February, as the markets closed at new rally highs, EWI remained committed to a nearby rally top:
      While stocks have extended their push, the structure of the rise appears to be a clear Elliott wave that is terminal. When the bear market resumes…our analysis leads us to conclude even more strongly now than in 2007 that a powerful across-the-board decline will be the next major financial event. Here again, the Wave Principle and historically high optimism are the primary reasons. After impulse waves down ended in December 2008 through March 2009, world stock indexes as well as commodities, oil and many financial markets have rallied in a synchronized (A)-(B)-(C) pattern that is the hallmark of an Elliott wave correction. 2011 should see a resumption of the bear market and the beginning of another crushing deflation that will sweep across all of these markets…The blue-chip stock indexes continued higher through January. Overall, measures of the market’s breadth and upward momentum remain consistent with the wave interpretation shown on the weekly S&P chart. Tuesday’s NYSE advance/decline ratio was strong at 4.6:1, but there was no follow-through, as breadth was negative the next day. Moreover, this week’s new recovery high in the Dow Industrials was not confirmed by the Dow Transportation Average, which made its closing high on January 13, thereby intensifying a bearish Dow Theory non-confirmation. These events are compatible with a rally that appears terminal…Now, some readers ask why we won’t simply turn bullish on stocks again since Primary wave 2 has surpassed the targets EWFF set for the rally in April 2009. After all, this is what many others are doing. In our experience, these questions tend to intensify near market highs when we are too far ahead of an important turn. Similar critiques hit EWI’s email inbox in 2007, as the Dow Transports and many secondary indexes were topping out in July. The blue chips held up until October, but the ensuing decline into the first quarter of 2009 turned out to be historic. We should have done a better job of honing in on the start of the turn, but, as the intensity of the decline in 2008 showed, it’s critically important to be safely out of the way of this bear market. (02/11 EWFF)
      Elliott Wave Financial Forecast has maintained a Primary and Intermediate degree short position going back to at least September 2010 (probably much earlier). At this time all of EWI’s top calls or short recommendations are deeply underwater:

      Here I will try to examine just a few of the problems of trading methodology which have contributed to the disastrous performance of EWI during the period under review.

      TRADING DISCIPLINE AND STOP LOSSES: EWI appears to exercise an astounding lack of trading discipline. At no point does EWI instruct its followers on stops, stop levels or alternate scenarios which would call its bearish assumptions into question. This defies the most basic, elementary, generally accepted rules of trading and risk management. EWI assumes that it will eventually be correct due to an infallible “analysis” and that all will eventually be made right and whole when “The Big One” hits the markets. This is quite simply the mentality of the amateur speculator. Having said this, I will reiterate: Indeed, in the final analysis all bearish errors in analysis and timing may be forgiven when and if the markets do go into a deflationary bear market. This is a possibility. It is however not the current message of the market and the mere possibility of an eventual bear market does not absolve the analyst and the trader from maintaining discipline. Not even the great Jesse Livermore himself could defy the rules of risk and money management. It was his failure to keep fast to his own trading principles in this regard which led to his ultimate demise and suicide.
      In “Elliott Wave Principle”, Robert Prechter discusses the risks of falling into subjective analysis:
      Bolton used to say that one of the hardest things he had to learn was to believe what he saw. If the analyst does not believe what he sees, he is likely to read into his analysis what he thinks should be there for some other reason. At this point, his count becomes subjective. Subjective analysis is dangerous and destroys the value of any market approach.

      What the Wave Principle provides is an objective means of assessing the relative probabilities of possible future paths for the market. At any time, two or more valid wave interpretations are usually acceptable by the rules of the Wave Principle. The rules are highly specific and keep the number of valid alternatives to a minimum. Among the valid alternatives, the analyst will generally regard as preferred the interpretation that satisfies the largest number of guidelines, and so on. As a result, competent analysts applying the rules and guidelines of the Wave Principle objectively should usually agree on the order of probabilities for various possible outcomes at any particular time. That order can usually be stated with certainty. Let no one assume, however, that certainty about the order of probabilities is the same as certainty about one specific outcome. Under only the rarest of circumstances does the analyst ever know exactly what the market is going to do. One must understand and accept that even an approach that can identify high odds for a fairly specific outcome will be wrong some of the time. (p.42)
      I’m in full agreement with the principle being expressed here. Unfortunately, like Livermore, it appears that Prechter is engaged in a catastrophic failure to apply his own rules to the current market. There has been a subjective determination of the inevitability of a deflationary depression. Since no alternate count is presented EWI has effectively “bet the farm” without a stop loss or any defined risk management parameters on a crash that may never come or may only come in a time frame so far removed from the present that maintaining any current short position would prove disastrous.
      Some may claim that EWI’s real position is the safety of cash, but as I have documented here they have clearly advocated 200% leveraged short positions on at least three occasions and have clearly called “The Top” on at least 8. When a top or bottom is clearly called it is also a call to take a position in the direction of the call. There is no evidence that they ever called for those positions to be stopped out; in fact the most recent EWFF maintains a long standing Primary and Intermediate short call. The “safety of cash” defense does not wash.

      TOP PICKING: EWI also consistently engages in one of the most amateur of all trading practices: top picking. This selection from the Wall Street classic “Reminiscences of a Stock Operator” illustrates Jesse Livermore’s painful experience with top picking:
      I was nearly twenty-seven years old. I had been at the game twelve years. But the first time I traded because of a crisis that was still to come I found that I had been using a telescope. Between my first glimpse of the storm cloud and the time for cashing in on the big break the stretch was evidently so much greater than I had thought that I began to wonder whether I really saw what I thought I saw so clearly. We had had many warnings and sensational ascensions in call-money rates. Still some of the great financiers talked hopefully at least to newspaper reporters and the ensuing rallies in the stock market gave the lie to the calamity howlers. Was I fundamentally wrong in being bearish or merely temporarily wrong in having begun to sell short too soon? I decided that I began too soon, but that I really couldn’t help it. Then the market began to sell off. That was my opportunity. I sold all I could, and then stocks rallied again, to quite a high level.
      It cleaned me out.
      There I was right and busted!
      I tell you it was remarkable. What happened was this: I looked ahead and saw a big pile of dollars. Out of it stuck a sign. It had “Help yourself,” on it, in huge letters. Beside it stood a cart with “Lawrence Livingston Trucking Corporation” painted on its side. I had a brand-new shovel in my hand. There was not another soul in sight, so I had no competition in the gold-shoveling, which is one beauty of seeing the dollar-heap ahead of others. The people who might have seen it if they had stopped to look were just then looking at baseball games instead, or motoring or buying houses to be paid for with the very dollars that I saw. That was the first time that I had seen big money ahead, and I naturally started toward it on the run. Before I could reach the dollar-pile my wind went back on me and I fell to the ground. The pile of dollars was still there, but I had lost the shovel, and the wagon was gone. So much for sprinting too soon! I was too eager to prove to myself that I had seen real dollars and not a mirage. I saw, and knew that I saw. Thinking about the reward for my excellent sight kept me from considering the distance to the dollar-heap. I should have walked and not sprinted. That is what happened. I didn’t wait to determine whether or not the time was right for plunging on the bear side. On the one occasion when I should have invoked the aid of my tape-reading I didn’t do it. That is how I came to learn that even when one is properly bearish at the very beginning of a bear market it is well not to begin selling in bulk until there is no danger of the engine back-firing.
      In this particular case Livermore was ultimately proven correct in his assessment that the market would eventually go into a deep bear market. He was able to make up his losses when his timing improved because he had controlled risk by using stop losses. But what would have happened if Livermore, like Prechter today, refused to manage risk, continued to average down a losing position, and had ultimately been wrong in his assessment of market conditions? His name would be unknown to us today because he would have never met with his great trading success. Top pickers think they are smarter than the market and so possessed of market knowledge that they don’t need to wait for the actual trend of the market to change before shorting against the trend. Livermore, like all great and astute masters of market trading principles and discipline, teaches us to develop a criteria for a recognition of a trend change in price before committing capital to the other side of the market. There are many different systems that can be used. One is the Elliott Wave system.
      Let’s consult “Elliott Wave Principle” on this matter:
      Most other approaches to market analysis, whether fundamental, technical or cyclical, have no good way of forcing a change of opinion if you are wrong. The Wave Principle, in contrast, provides a built-in objective method for changing your mind. Since Elliott Wave analysis is based upon price patterns, a pattern identified as having been completed is either over or it isn’t. If the market changes direction, the analyst has caught the turn. If the market moves beyond what the apparently completed pattern allows, the conclusion is wrong, and any funds at risk can be reclaimed immediately. Investors using the Wave Principle can prepare themselves psychologically for such outcomes through the continual updating of the second best interpretation, sometimes called the “alternate count.” Because applying the Wave Principle is an exercise in probability, the ongoing maintenance of alternative wave counts is an essential part of investing with it. In the event that the market violates the expected scenario, the alternate count immediately becomes the investor’s new preferred count.Of course, there are often times when, despite a rigorous analysis, the question may arise as to how a developing move is to be counted, or perhaps classified as to degree. When there is no clearly preferred interpretation, the analyst must wait until the count resolves itself, in other words, to “sweep it under the rug until

    19. Scott Diering
      Feb 14 2011, 09:28:56 pm

      I subscribed to the Elliot Wave Theorists this past year, 2010. I acted on the predictions which they confidently made. They were all, and are still, WRONG. Upon further research, the EW group is about 28% correct in their predictions…well below the 48-51% average for stock and market analysts.
      If your goal is to make money, avoid these self-aggrandizing, pedantic losers.
      If you want to make more money than you would make following their advice, hide your money in your mattress.

    20. Doug Ralston
      Jul 26 2011, 01:02:29 pm

      Ever since the low in 2009 I subscribed to the weekly service that gave updates 3 times a week. I had told myself that if the DOW exceeded a .618 retracement of the decline(approx. 11,250) that I should cover my ‘shorts’. I only wish that I would have stuck with that but I continued to believe(can’t rmember his name) the analyst that wrote the updates who continuously made me feel like a decline was imminent. I even wrote that he would not include certain things such as bulllish consenus or many other indicators when they did not favor his position……….like a politician.

      To say that I have lost all faith in Robert Prechter would be an understatement. Just as a broken clock is right at least twice a day………..he will again be right but not before losing his subscribers a lot of money.

      Doug Ralston

    21. Gregg White
      Nov 30 2011, 12:08:25 pm

      I make no apology for venturing into this forum for a second time in the last year or so. By now nobody should even consider any investment/trading service that uses Elliott Wave theory & that includes the Financial Forecast service. It may well have been the case in the days of ‘honest’ stock & commodity markets that EWT worked. I have no doubt about the integrity of “Mr. Elliott” himself but markets are now so manipulated by Wall Street that this system which relies entirely on the ‘herd instinct’ cannot work unless just by luck occasionally. I stopped my EWI FF about a year ago but would disagree with the stats about 28% of trades working. That is overstated. I have a lot of respect for Robert Prechter especially in regard to his socionomics which are brilliant. I have been with another trading service for 5-6 years which has gradually moved toward EWT trading & has deteriorated since. EG in November 2011 there has not been one single trade in spite of the massive moves in any of the markets. This is due to the constant ‘alternatives’ that EWT throws up making the whole thing totally indecisive. It is worse than a Libran trying to decide whether to have a latte or a cappuccino in the line at Starbucks. As I have said for years EWT is no better than a plain old moving average because 90% of the time EWT deals with hindsight and the train has left the station well before an EWT makes up its mind. So the problem is not specifically the EWI FF it is the theory itself. Quite frankly all the sub-waves & the alternate patterns give me a headache not an improved bank balance. Good luck if you can make money from EWT – announce it from the hilltops!

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