Super Shift: Breakthrough Opens $40 Trillion Oil Prize in Monterey Shale (Kent Moors)

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, November 16, 2010

Most of you have probably seen the teasers rolling in from Dr. Kent Moors for The Energy Inner Circle, his new higher-priced and “more exclusive” service that provides weekly updates and buy and sell alerts about his “trigger list” of energy stocks.

Most of you have just forwarded me the email ads, which is fine and much appreciated, but I have had an unusual number of folks comment on the “swollen head” he seems to have as he touts his inside access to the “50 people in the world who control 90% of the world’s energy markets.”

Frankly, you have to dig to find newsletter writers who don’t sound like they have “swollen heads”, at least in the way they present themselves to us through their hype-filled teaser ads … the implication always being, why would I subscribe to someone’s letter if they’re not a lot smarter and wealthier than me? Though, to be fair, not many do this much status bragging in the first few paragraphs (visits to Windsor Palace, a second home in the Bahamas, etc.). And really, he’s a pretty new newsletter writer and seems to be trying to turn his academic and international energy consulting experience into wealth, so his status and connections are the key to what he’s offering.

I can’t tell you much about Dr. Moors’ credentials (if you want to see the less-hypey version, you can check out his site at Duquesne, where he’s got a day job as a political science professor), but I can at least look at some of the ideas and stocks he’s teasing in his ad letter.

Moors tells us that what he’s trying to do is prepare subscribers to profit from “super shifts” — like the Chinese push into shale gas technology, Venezuela’s expected move away from supplying US refineries. These “super shift” moves ripple through the markets and can cause profit-making catalysts for specific companies, which is what he’s looking for.

And there is one “super shift” that more of my readers have asked about than any other as they’ve forwarded this ad to me — they’ want to know what the “$40 trillion oil prize” is in the Monterey Shale, and which companies Moors is teasing that will be the beneficiaries.

Thankfully, Moors (or his copywriters, one assumes) throws a few clues on the pile for us to chew on. Here’s his brief description of the Monterey Shale as background:

“Super Shift #3: Breakthrough opens America’s $40 trillion oil prize

“Everybody knows California’s traditional oil production is declining at nearly double-digit rates every single year. In fact, current volume is less than half of what it was just a few years ago.

“Yet what most people don’t know is that California is sitting on untapped gas/oil reserves equivalent to 500 billion barrels of crude….

“It’s called the Monterey Shale. And unlike other shale-based deposits in the U.S., this one is mostly crude oil.

“In fact, it’s the ‘source rock’ for most of the state’s oil production….

“What’s kept it from being a superstar oil field is the very poor ‘recovery rate’ of Monterey Shale wells.

“Only around 10% of the crude available from each well can typically be brought to the surface.”

So that’s the back story — this oil has been there and known for more than 100 years, but until now it was too hard to extract. That’s where, as you might imagine, his “inner circle” comes in:

“But according to my Inner Circle contacts, recent developments in oil markets and drilling technologies could soon turn this under-tapped reserve into one of the hottest oil properties on the planet…

“One of these is called Managed Pressure Drilling (MPD) … a system of high-tech air injection that combines with a special ‘California Cocktail’ of acidized drilling mud to lift much larger amounts of oil from Monterey Shale wells.”

And he says that this MPD and newer drilling methods (horizontal drilling, etc., I assume) are the “trigger” for this super shift. In his words:

“MPD and other new technologies make tapping this mammoth domestic reserve profitable at just $80 a barrel…”

That still makes it pretty marginal according to my understanding of production costs — I think deepwater oil and oil sands can often be produced for significantly less, but I imagine those costs are rising, too, and if you think oil is going higher and staying higher (as Moors and many others clearly believe — he wrote a “cheap oil is over” article just yesterday), then $80 means these might be highly leveraged plays that could see very volatile earnings — that’s because high cost extraction is always more heavily levered to commodity prices than low cost extraction. (To simplify: If you have a gold mine that can produce gold for $1,200 an ounce, for example, the move from $1,300 to $1,400 an ounce means they double their profit — instead of making $100 per ounce they make $200 per ounce. If a mine produces for $300 an ounce, then the same move would only increase their profit by 10%, from $1,000 to $1,100. Investors lust for growth, so big percentage gains almost always catch the most attention.)

And finally, we get to the brief “tease” for two stocks in the Monterey Shale:

“In fact, I know of two stocks you could use to pour yourself a cocktail of profits from this suddenly accessible Monterey crude RIGHT NOW…

“One of these has 10 billion barrels of oil ($814.5 billion worth) ready for drilling using MPD and other techniques on its 300,000 acres in the Monterey…

“The other holds 1.2 million Monterey acres – and is ready to pour $6.3 billion into new extraction efforts over the next 4 years.”

So … is that enough for the mighty, mighty Thinkolator to go on? Well, you might be worried, my friends, but have no fear. These must be:

Venoco (VQ)

and

Occidental Petroleum (OXY)

Venoco is active in several California energy fields — they have a big operation in the Sacramento basin to extract shale gas, and some offshore and legacy production in Southern California, but with low gas prices they are putting much of their capital investment into the Monterey Shale, and pinning their growth hopes on their large position in that area. And yes, they have claimed to have more than $10 billion of oil in place in their leaseholds, though I think that’s the “oil in place” number, of which even with advanced techniques they’ll presumably be able to extract only a small portion. You can see their latest quarterly report here, including updates on their drilling program and production.

The company is profitable and expects to remain so, but trades at a fairly hefty forward PE ratio (about 26), probably because of hedging losses and falling nat gas prices that analysts probably expect to hurt their revenue numbers, and they also trade at a negative book value per share thanks to debt and, I assume, probably a low carrying value of their Monterey Shale leases (yes, they do hold about 300,000 acres) since those resources are not yet fully defined and producing. Market cap is around $900 million, and they have about $700 million in debt and no cash to speak of.

As of a couple weeks ago there was a pretty big short position in VQ shares, roughly 15% of the float, so clearly some folks are betting that their position is a bit precarious, so it might be that some investors are more skeptical about the Monterey Shale — or just think that they’ll be hurt by low natural gas prices from their Sacramento production, or maybe there are other challenges for Venoco that I didn’t see in my ten minute tour of their filings.

And Occidental Petroleum you probably know, at least by name — they’re one of the “oil majors” with a market cap around $70 billion, though that makes them just a fifth the size of Exxon Mobil. Like most of the big oil companies right now, they have a “fortress” balance sheet, with no net debt, and they’re growing a bit more quickly (as would be expected) than the “even larger” giants like Exxon Mobil or Chevron — and with far higher profit margins, largely because they’re mostly a producer and don’t get into lower-margin refining and retailing.

OXY has made California one of their growth priorities, they’re drilling actively and added quite a bit of CA acreage this year (they’re already a huge producer in California and are active around the world — lots of US oil and gas production, but also oil production and exploration in Oman, Libya, South America … and soon Iraq, among other places). Like most exploration and production companies, they’ve been reacting to the low gas prices by looking for ways to allocate future capital to oil production at the expense of natural gas. And I have seen reports that they’re going to invest about $6 billion into increasing their California production, both conventional and shale, over the next four years, so that’s a good match (that’s about a quarter of their capital investment plan over the next four years, by the way).

OXY also looks reasonably inexpensive considering their diverse assets and their expected 10% annual growth rate (that’s the average analyst expectation), though they don’t carry the super-low PE ratio of an XOM or a CVX, both of which are actually expected to grow faster (or the higher dividend yield of those bigger players — OXY’s dividend yield is under 2%, though they have raised the dividend every year for almost a decade).

So there you have it — I have none of the connections touted by Dr. Moors, and I don’t know much about oil exploration or production, but from the hints and clues he throws out to us I can tell you that I’m pretty sure these are the two “plays” that he touts for the Monterey Shale. What do you think? Ready to plunk down some of your hard-earned money for a piece of Venoco or Occidental? Have a better oil idea? Let us know with a comment below.


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November 16, 2010 2:11 pm

This is like investing in Darth Vader's Death Star… massive profits if you don't really care what happens to the Earth. Extraction industries are slowly but surely destroying essential habitat for many endangered plants and animals, not to mention polluting water and air that we humans need to live… Come on people, there are other ways to make money investing…

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November 16, 2010 2:37 pm

The trouble with teasers is you have to make 'em sound really good in the first place – then how can you give an objective assessment when you reveal the name of the company? And if you don't state the cons as well as the pros,people will wind up overpaying for the stock. – after all,they just paid you to find out what it was.

denny
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denny
November 16, 2010 2:40 pm

Chill out Paul….Patrick has made a good point

herman
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herman
November 16, 2010 2:59 pm

what impact do you guess from ls9

herman medow
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herman medow
November 16, 2010 3:05 pm

What guesses about the impact of ls9 on energy and other petrochemical uses- not
available as a stock, altho contract with PG for microbial production of cleaning product-
produce microbial gasoline, diesel fuel, and oil with no need for refining facilities- they
have more than bank of patents- some vehicles in Brazil use their product – this sounds
like a really disruptive trechnology

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Henry
November 16, 2010 3:14 pm

I put my money on Paul. Drill baby, drill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gee
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gee
November 16, 2010 3:32 pm

For a new oil extraction technology, the safe bet would be twice the estimated cost in double the time frame with half the projected yield

Tom T
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Tom T
November 16, 2010 3:42 pm
I agree Travis, The hype on this is too much, and it is likely the copywriters creating it. Moors does appear well connected on the inside of international oil dealings, but big payoffs from his reccomendations remain to be seen. He does in fact reco an oil services company regarding the Monterey Shale story. This reco also seems connected to the comments regarding China's desire to acquire our shale drilling technology. Bigger issues are at hand here- The Feds plan to devalue the dollar has been trumped by the problem in Ireland. As the EU tries to contain the Ireland… Read more »
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November 16, 2010 5:19 pm
I subscribe to his introductory service. I keep a screen of his stocks, and also separate screens of oil service companies, E&P companies, and drilling and equipment companies, along with one of things I own. So far, we own only CHK in common. Best I can tell – but just from daily visual looking on – haven't charted actual numbers – he seems to do no better or worse than the rest and I believe my own picks out perform his. I always wonder why someone so fabulously rich and famous as he touts himself would waste time writing a… Read more »
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Eddy
November 16, 2010 6:25 pm

Nice post, Tom T.^

I've subscribed to Dr. Moors letter for several months and found myself a bit dismayed when Dr Moors "glazed-over" the environmental damage which results from "hydro-fracking." Nonetheless, the shale gas industry is booming in the Marcellus Basin and elsewhere, the Planet be damned.

I have no plans to renew my subscription to Energy Advantage.

Thanks for the posts.

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November 16, 2010 9:28 pm

Thanks Brian. Haven't looked at TRGL in a while, that was a very active teaser pick about a year ago, if you bought in July you caught a nice dip. I haven't written about them since but that first "oil under the Eiffel tower" teaser was written up here: http://stockgumshoe.com/2009/09/profits-in-paris-

shredder
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shredder
November 16, 2010 9:33 pm

I subscribed to his first service, which was just a feeder to the higher cost one. I get so many freaking teaser ads…where's the beef I paid for?

Jack
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Jack
November 16, 2010 9:41 pm

http://WWW.CLIENTSRFIRST.COM is a place to go for those that might get burned by rip off artist in the investment fields!

Ralph Hallock
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Ralph Hallock
December 19, 2013 11:15 pm

Stupidly I signed on to try his recommendations and promptly lost two grand. STAY AWAY!!

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November 16, 2010 10:14 pm

New subscriber to Dr Moors' newsletter and for once you are not close, gumshoe! I am quite surprised. Think Dr. Moors has some great picks here and plan to follow his lead. Seems to have connections with many people involved with many energy companies. Knows a lot more than I do, so I will take his advice on this one.

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Lukester
November 16, 2010 10:21 pm
I subscribed to his introductory service also – only a week after subscribing I had the intution that Dr. Kent Moors is indeed a very well connected oil industry analyst, and that he's also a ho-hum stock picker with just an average nose for where the livest part of the actionable trend will be strongest. I echo Fred's astute comments above exactly. I like Dr. Kent Moors well enough and I believe he is certainly knowledgeable in his field – he parlayed that long experience probably very quickly into initial subscriptions to the low cost service. Having said that, I… Read more »
Lukester
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Lukester
November 16, 2010 10:23 pm

Uhm, that was mistyped – meant to say: "NOT hugely better at weeding out good mainstream energy picks".

Roger
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Roger
May 11, 2012 6:16 pm

LOL Except for maybe the fact that the fresh water they use for these wells never makes it back into the water table???

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boband
November 16, 2010 10:34 pm

I am amazed at the comments on drilling and oil production technology…fracing, horizontal drilling, etc. Most of this has been done for years, almost as long as oil and gas have been produced…so why the sudden condemnation of ….hydrofracing for example. In the big picture of what harms the planet this comes very very low on the list. Use of toilet paper is a far far larger environmental issue.

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November 17, 2010 12:07 am

I also joined, for same reasons as eaglefl – refundable, so what the heck. I watched several videos with Kent Moors in his professional capacity which added some credibility. I also keep in mind what our beloved Gumshoe just mentioned – teaser hype is most likely not written by the professional behind the stock selection. I will say, however, that this IS clearly Kent's voice on the audio presentation and I think he DOES have a large ego. I don't care if his picks are solid.

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Tom
November 17, 2010 7:08 am
Investing through emotion will most certainly lead to fortunes.(NOT) The energy industry provides well paying jobs and a much needed resource that we will continue to use for the foreseeable future. If we stop all drilling and stop all transportation then what type of life would we have my Greenie friends? We lucky folks in New York have stopped the drilling of Marcellus shale only to find out it is progressing to the south of us in Pa. There have been 3 bank failures in New York so far this year and none in Pa. Wonder whats shielding the banks… Read more »
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Richard
November 17, 2010 2:03 pm

It seems that fire extinguishers for flaming ducks and water filters should be good investment opportunities according to our green friends. Any stock picks?

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roger036
November 17, 2010 2:19 pm

Further Natural Gas drilling here in Louisiana is put on hold. The drillers are now going after Petroleum as the profits are 3 times as much.

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November 17, 2010 4:13 pm

The video I watched that caused me to sign up for the inner circle focused on "shifts" and gave several examples. I don't recall him mentioning or hinting at service providers or a pipeline company that you alluded to. Was there in fact another video or was I dozing off?..which I have done on some….lol

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November 21, 2010 10:34 am

all comments have good points,,,but if this man is talking to the top 50 people he so said,,why is he giving info to other countries, instead of helping our own county,,and why isn't the gov watching him close,,,,giving secrets away??? just thinking out loud…

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November 21, 2010 7:43 pm

Check out Northern Oil and Gas (NOG). They are basically a couple of rich, frat boys from Minnesota, with oil operations in the Williston Basin in North Dakota. The stock was at $2 per share, and then you look again, and it’s at $16 or $17 per share. A fluke? Or are they for real?

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November 23, 2010 4:16 pm
I've followed Moors emails and services since their appearance last Spring. First a free email service. Second a $49 dollar subscription service. I subscribed and bought some of his picks. Third, an inner circle service discounted at $695 (I think it's around there) with even better picks than the other two services. The price of this service will be $2000 when this special offer expires. Now there's something wrong with all this. Are we being led by the nose, teased into greater investments of our capital? Pooh! If Moors had real 'insider' info, it would be illegal to use it… Read more »
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November 26, 2010 12:24 pm

Mikpo,
Great advice. I've actually learned more from this blog, than the teaser ad. We all know we need to do our home work, before investing. There is indeed no easy way to make money.

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November 28, 2010 6:39 am
ok you guys check this out for OVER HYPE http://www.moneyandmarkets.co.uk they massively over hyped andi was lead by the greedy nose to the chopping block to the loss of $350.000 yep 350 thousand dollars and yes i admit i am a PILLOCK ( check this word out its from the UK ) Think to the BASICS… IF THEY ARE SO GOOD WHAT ARE THEY DOING WASTING THEIR TIME WRITING TO US?…. are they all god fearing persons that like to share their knowledge with the world, or do they live off our subscriptions? HERES THE BRAIN TEASER TO TEASE YOU… Read more »
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Londonian
December 1, 2010 9:15 am

I've just checked and Big Gold comes free with International Speculator

BOW
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December 5, 2010 8:11 am

Please anybody please tell me of ANY subscription out there thats is doing 30% profitable suggestions, i know of non that are doing it in reality as they are all lying!
i ask again!!! why if they are as good as they claim dont they just trade for themselves and make them selves multi TRILLIONAIRES IN NO TIME?
i assume this is a very very stupid question that i keep asking as nobody out there in the real world ever answers it.

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December 5, 2010 11:42 am

I just got a last chance notice from Hillarity Kramer to take advantage of her fantastic labor day deal. It's Dec 5.

Years ago, I think it was Salomon Bros that said rare coins went up 30% a year. If it worked that way, I'd have put $1,000 into coins in 1980, and have $2,620,000 worth today, and could remove $786,000 a year to live on.

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Eric G
December 5, 2010 2:06 pm

http://www.checkthemarkets.com/index2.php?option=

An article written by Dr. Moors himself touting both OXY and VQ

'Nough said"!

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December 6, 2010 8:18 am

BOW, I ask myself the same question. if someone that important and well connected as he touts to be< why is he wasting his time doing a teaser? his phone would probably be ringing off the hook he would not have time for this; moreover, he would be so busy in more important things.

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December 7, 2010 5:18 pm

The same old shit! nobody answers the question about subscriptions , if there was one subscription that was doing any GOOD it would and they would be world famous and the stock markety etc would fear them.
They would not need or have time to write to their subscribers as they would be too busy making trillions. Carlos are you the only one out there that gets this CON?
Well done MATE! check this out http://www.moneyandmarkets.co.uk it will show you how big this CON is.

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December 7, 2010 11:26 pm

If I have $100,000 in silver and sell it for a 2% profit, and repeat that every week,I have $200,000 at the end of the year. Will silver double in that time? Doubtful, but my way will double my money.

If I pick stocks that go up 25%, I make $250,000 if I tie up $1 million. If i sell 5000 people a $50 advisory, I make the same money with $0 investment.

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December 12, 2010 7:44 pm
I see an abundance of negativity here in regards to investment services, some of which is rightly deserved . But like people, these services all come in different size, shapes and forms, so to blanket them all as hocum is just plain simplistic. I think Travis would even agree with this, as would many of his followers here. I've subscribed to a number of services over the past decade and all have had their share of winners and losers, but overall the winners are well ahead. The hardest part for a subscriber though is often deciding which of any service's… Read more »
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December 15, 2010 4:21 pm
Man alive what absolute crap markS please please answer the rotten stinking question WHY DO THEY BOTHER AT ALL WITH SUBSCRIPTIIONS IF THEY ARE SO GOOD ,WHY NOT JUST TRADE! Christ Almighty! read the news flick a coin and DO IT! Thats what they do as most of them are stateing in small print that 80% will fail…… so think do everything opposite to what they say and you will be 80% in profit. And yes i have done that and turned 10K into 150K IN 5 WEEKS. But think the irony is you have to pick a proper wally,… Read more »
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December 19, 2010 10:00 am

$2.08 Silver???

NEIL
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December 23, 2010 8:09 am

4 2011 wealth creations.. Agora

NEIL
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December 26, 2010 10:58 am

Not ONE, not TWO, not THREE but FIVE MARKET WEALTH QUAKES!!!! Go get therm GUMSHOE!!! AGORA FINANCIAL'S 10,720 % Gains in the next 13 months?????

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January 12, 2011 7:17 pm
I just sent this note off to Money Map Press in regards to this service being discussed here and had to split it here in 3 posts for its length "I'd like to send a message to Dr. Kent Moors regarding the Energy Inner Circle service: possess. Dear Sir: The advertising you did for this service with the video message was unsually conceited or maybe justly cocky ( I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt as of yet ) , even for an industry of investment news services that is wont to such vanities. Of course in… Read more »
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January 12, 2011 7:25 pm
"that we can forget about all those other sectors because the energy markets are the real McCoy with more potential than any others. Well Mr. Insider, when can we expect to see your money ( that is our money ) where your mouth is? I'm willing to wait a few more months to see if your supposed connections really merit the higher subscription fee, being that your employer here, Money Map Press, is gracious enough to offer the 6 month money back guarantee, which I will be all to happy to cash in if I see I've been had by… Read more »
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Robert
February 3, 2011 5:46 pm

why in the world would major oil companies need the advise of a college politic science teacher?

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Mike the Greek
February 10, 2011 12:33 am

I got the same ad today for his 695.00 deal, now, he is telling me to expect profits in or over a 12 or 13 month span…wait a minute! his guarantee is only 6 months! ok, why not 12 or 13 months? red flag red flag.

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March 18, 2011 12:54 pm

So what do you thing some of his other stocks are besides va and oxy. Who are the ones with experience in managed pressure drilling . do you think one is wft. Any real smaoll caps?

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peter
March 5, 2012 12:10 pm

Hi,

Golar LNG was recommended 20th of april 2011 by Kent Moors. The share price was then US dollars 30. Today it is 42. Is that bad or good? In my little investing world a 40% rise in 11 months is rather good. What do you think?

Sincerely
Peter

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November 16, 2010 2:31 pm
You must live in LA LA Land, California. You guys love to drive fast cars and use lots of natural resources. But don't drill here – do it anywhere but here. I might smell a refinery or get a 1/2 ounce of oil on the beach – oh no!!! Until you are ready to stop driving a motorized vehicle and having modern convinences and electricity, don't preach to others. This is also about a way to reduce our dependancy on foriegn countries, like Venezuela where they have little to none environomental programs. Or the middle east where they can pass… Read more »
steve
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steve
November 16, 2010 5:45 pm

they great thing about oil spills is that if you want a picknick on a beach all you have to do is light a duck

dave
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dave
November 27, 2010 9:07 am

stop i,m all choked up.

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November 16, 2010 2:43 pm

Points well taken — though to be fair, I suspect that in most cases the person actually choosing the stocks and doing the analysis is not the same person who's writing the overhyped teaser copy (even though the ad letter often goes out with their signature), copywriters are charged with turning an analysis into a strong sales pitch — whether or not that influences the way the actual analyst/editor (Moors, in this case) acts or thinks is a question I can't answer..

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November 22, 2010 7:39 am

Where is the beef? The one you paid for? Dr. Ken Moors ate it!

dave
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dave
November 27, 2010 9:12 am

That was the whole point of the video! suppliersEnter text right here!

eaglefl
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eaglefl
November 27, 2010 10:08 am

I took another look at the video..I'm back on track now. I was thinking about a different video. I had a dummy senior moment I think! I bought calls on both the pipeline company and the service provider.

eaglefl
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eaglefl
November 27, 2010 10:13 am

I'm back on track now. I had a different video in mind. I bought calls on both the pipeline company and the service provider for what its worth.

BOW
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BOW
November 28, 2010 7:00 am

Can anybody name 1 subsciption that is doing just not bad!
i have been looking for YEARS and have be burnt time after time.
They all lie! their past trades are mostly made up and they get away with it all the time…. why?

BOW
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BOW
December 12, 2010 2:32 pm

well thats 2 people that get the con! not bad eh?

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December 12, 2010 6:01 pm
Kudos, Paul I'm as big a a nature lover as just about any Greenpeace or Sierra Club members. We recycle with the best of them and I do want a healthy clean planet that saves wildlife from extinction and doesn't overgraze the seas, and whether global warming is fact or fiction I still believe it's an ongoing scientific debate that should be viewed with open minds from both sides of that battle. But the thing that really sticks in my craw is how the liberal media and academia have for years now created an image for all our youth that… Read more »
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December 12, 2010 6:06 pm
The disconnect from reality that has been encultured is not only disturbing, but frightening, knowing that those that come to power will harbor many of these indoctrinated prejudices against man made efforts to extract the very substances that our modern societies pivot upon. If the effort to teach to our youth became just a small percentile devoted to showing children how and where the things they buy and use come from, and how almost all these materials are in a finite supply and many are coming or are past peak usage, and therefore to not be taken for granted, along… Read more »
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December 12, 2010 7:46 pm

So we buy these services for the same reason we come to Gumshoe and that is to fiind guidance through the murky waters of the vast stock ocean so as to pre-qualify some stock picks we probably wouldn't have thought about otherwise. Even Travis' writeup here, if you read ibetween the lines is not a put down or a cheerleading of Moors, but more a wait and see attitude, with a reasonable amount of patience and caution.

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December 15, 2010 6:39 pm

Hope its not gumshoe

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January 12, 2011 6:58 pm
HaHAA Mr Bow my my , I do appreciate you're respectful reply um It always amazes me the amount of anonmosity people will express to others they never have met personally, with the bravado that the anonymity of the internet provides them … I stated an honest opinion for which I still stick to my guns, that there are good services as well as lousy ones, and unless you have seen each and every one it might behoove you to withold your judgement on all till you've seen them all …like the service I cited in my first post that… Read more »
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markS
January 12, 2011 7:20 pm
"That's why after 2 months of mediocre returns from your picks I'm already scratching my head. In that time, despite the fact the overall markets have been on a tear, your picks might just be keeping up or even behind. It seems all your picks so far have been ones that have already had good runs by the time you're recommending them and not ones that have been overlooked and ready to rocket. It would seem to me – a guy that had to think very hard about plunking down $647, when he's used to $49/year ones ( Capital and… Read more »
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