by Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe | February 9, 2017 2:23 pm
Paul Mampilly[1] is out with a new promo for his Extreme Fortunes[2] newsletter, making this absurd promise:
“Anyone who joins my research service Extreme Fortunes, and invests $10,000 following my recommendations, will have the chance to earn a profit of $100,000… in the next year.”
So before we begin, let’s throw away that possibility. You’re not going to be able to think clearly about a stock if you go in with that kind of lottery-ticket mentality — and $10,000 is a lot more money than you would probably put into buying lottery tickets. Stocks do sometimes make 1,000% returns, though it’s extremely rare for it to be in a single year… and that promise implies that if you invest $10,000 into his basket of stocks or array of recommendations throughout the year you’ll have a chance at $100,000 in profits.
Some of those stocks are going to go down or provide very small returns, that’s just the nature of investing, so that means he has to have at least one pick that provides something far more dramatic, like 3,000-5,000% returns. (Alternately, if he said investing $120,000 a year, $10,000 into each pick each month, would present the possibility of one of those investments returning $100,000, the promise would be a little more rational but far less enticing).
But the newsletter publisher has something going for him: he knows that if Paul picks a stock that goes up 70%, subscribers will be delighted and will forget that they were promised 1,000% returns… and he also knows that while they’re promising those returns, they are NOT offering refunds on this newsletter, for any reason… so I’m not exactly sure what it is that’s behind that promise, other than Mampilly’s belief (probably sincere, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt) that he can turn $10,000 into $100,000 for you.
But then they put “Paul’s Track Record” in the ad, and that makes it a bit more clear — it looks like he’s just adding up the percentage returns from each investment and somehow magically making it look like that’s your investment return. So to cherry pick the best gains he claims, back in January (of last year, presumably) he recommended Coeur Mining, which gave him a 738.87% gain, the GDX ETF, which returned 106.8%, and NVIDIA, which returned 108.56%…. and the ad implies that you can add that 738.87 to 106.8 and 108.56 and somehow turn that into a 950% return. That’s not how percentages work.
Those are great trades, of course, assuming that you could actually make them in real life (the CDE trade, for example, means you bought on his recommendation on January 15, 2016 and then sold at the absolute peak on August 9 for a ~740% return — people almost never sell at the peak and I don’t know when he might have recommended a sale … if you held to today, that return would be more like 400%)…
… but even making that trade perfectly doesn’t get you even close to having a 1,000% return on your investments with Paul Mampilly — just use the example he’s offering today of a $10,000 investment that he says he can turn into $100,000 within the year. If you had $10,000 to invest in those three stocks last January, and divided it equally, you would, according to the ad’s return calculations, end up with roughly $27,900 in CDE, $6,900 in GDX, and $6,950 in NVDA. That’s $41,500. So that’s a lovely return of 315% on your $10,000 investment in January, and a gain probably made in only about a half a year, so that’s worth celebrating… but it’s not the far more dramatic 950%+ return that they claim (they actually claim 1,124.71%, but that’s adding on picks made in May and June and July last year which returned anywhere from 3.5% to 44%). The math isn’t made up, but it’s misleading.
So ratchet your expectations down a little bit, and then we’ll go into looking at the actual “Extreme Fortunes” stocks they’re recommending today. It’s never good to count on 1,000% short-term returns, but it is possible to make huge gains on stocks that are selected well, particularly if you have a lot more time than that… and sometimes Mampilly does choose good stocks (though not always, of course) — right now he’s riding on some attention here in Gumshoedom because he has been banging the table for STMicroelectronics (STM)[3] since late last Spring and that stock has indeed done quite well (and, to be fair, I didn’t like STM when he was teasing it and I don’t like it now, so I’ve missed those returns personally).
That STM pitch was for Mampilly’s less expensive $79 “entry level” Profits Unlimited[4] letter, and when you’ve got some investors who are excited about a good pick or few you’ve made the time is ripe to hit them up for “my even better ideas” — at a much richer price, naturally. So Extreme Fortunes is now being pitched as the “upgrade” letter for $2,995 (no refunds).
Mampilly then runs through a long list of stocks that his strategy would, after “rigorous backtesting” using the “DNA of stocks that are primed to jump,” have identified as potential 1,000% winners. But those aren’t actually stocks he recommended — he has had successful picks, of course, as have all newsletter pundits, but he’s not satisfied with those claims of gains of 355%, 634%, or even 2,539% in Sarepta Therapeutics, which is the example he keeps coming back to — he has to imply that somehow he would, using the system he’s suggesting today, also have found multi-year 1,000%+ (or even 10,000%+) winners in past years.
Always be skeptical of “my system would have found these gems back then and made you rich, if only we had discovered this fantastic system and shared it with you then” claims — identifying AMZN as a 50,000% winner in retrospect is easy, but it was far more difficult to pick it in the late 1990s, or even after the dot com crash (would you have have sold AMZN when it was dropping by 90% in 2001? If so, you missed a lot of that potential return), and it was more difficult still to stick with it for long enough to generate those absurdly high 50,000% returns. Backtesting makes fortune-making look easy — and backtesting that doesn’t include the possibility that some of the stocks that satisfy your backtest criteria probably lost 50% or 80% or 99% is disingenuous (the “system” itself uses pretty loose criteria, at least as described in the ad, so you could probably use it to claim almost anything you want).
So what are those criteria? What is it that Mampilly says he’s looking for? He says his “DNA” for stocks that are “primed to rally 1,000%” includes a few steps:
First, he says you need to find out “if the company is an industry disruptor” — here’s how he puts it:
“Finding disruptors is one of the foundational pillars of grabbing a 1,000% gain.
“This could be a new drug, new technology, a new system for doing things, a new medical device… the list is endless.
“But it has to disrupt the industry.
“And — this is key — I pay close attention to the potential market size for this disruptive company.
“If the potential market is small, the stock can only climb so much. But if it has a big potential market, the stock can easily climb 1,000%.”
That’s nothing shocking for growth investors, of course — that’s what David Gardner[5] at the Motley Fool[6] calls “Rule Breakers[7]” stocks, and a lot of them fail… but the big winners do, like Amazon or Netflix or Priceline, generate staggering returns.
“Phase II is the number-crunching phase. Once I know a company is going to disrupt an industry, I need to make sure it has the potential to go up 1,000%.
“I look at a lot of numbers. Some are really basic.
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“I also want companies with a market cap of $150 million to $3 billion. They still have a lot of room to go up….
“I want to find companies that currently have under $3 billion in sales, while growing sales an average of 10% to 20% a year.
“At this rate, a company would double its sales within five years … something which — without fail — catapults the stock price.”
And then he says that his other key criteria is “Insider Activity” — here’s how he puts it:
“Specifically, I look at insider buying[8] and selling.
“If the C-level executives of a company don’t own a good portion of their own stock, I don’t want to touch it. Full stop….
“Insiders need to have millions of their own dollars at stake.”
So those are the criteria — small cap stock, low-priced, insider ownership, sales growth… what, then, is the one stock he focuses on as the big buy to lure in investors? Here’s how he introduces it:
“This is the most excited I’ve been about an investment in years. I expect people will be talking about this company decades from now, just as much as they talk about Pfizer in pharmaceuticals. It has all the makings of being a mega-sized company… and just like all those companies, anyone prudent enough to be there, at the ground-floor, stands to make money hand over fist in the months ahead….
“This company is at the heart of a relatively new science … a science already disrupting one of the largest markets … health care.
“It’s called precision medicine.”
What other clues do we get? Here’s what I culled out of the ad for you:
“Early-stage firms have already reaped huge returns — like Illumina, which is up 3,000% so far.
“But the real winner is emerging at this very moment … the company I am going to share with our viewers today. This company is specifically planning to dominate the precision treatment of cancer … positioning it for the $107 billion haul for cancer treatment in the short term…
“In fact, the Swiss pharmaceutical giant Roche just invested $1 billion in this company….
“I project sales to soar 70% by the end of this year, it has a market cap under $1 billion and the stock is priced under $25….
“… in the last year, insider ownership has doubled….
“The Roche purchase woke a sleeping giant … Wall Street.
“Kleiner, Perkins, Caufield and Byers — one of the largest venture capital firms in Silicon Valley — has now taken a large stake in this firm…
“Institutional giants like BlackRock, Vanguard and Oppenheimer quickly followed.
“I expect this company could move very, very quickly. Again, small stocks mean increased volatility, so those following my recommendations should be aware of the risk, keep the buy-up-to price in mind and avoid ‘chasing the stock’ too far.”
OK, so that is a fairly easy pile to chew on for the Mighty, Mighty Thinkolator — we’ll have to use the electric start during this snowy weather, but I got it chugging along pretty nicely, shoveled the whole pile in for you, and got the answer out right quick: This is Foundation Medicine (FMI)[9].
Foundation Medicine is indeed a “personalized medicine” stock, focused on cancer treatment, and it fits all Mampilly’s criteria — it has a market cap of about $850 million, is growing revenue at about 15%, and has a huge investment from Roche (Roche spent about a billion dollars to get a majority stake two years ago — that sent the stock flying, since Roche paid a huge premium for that controlling stake, but it fell back down starting a few months later and has spent most of the past 18 months bouncing between $15-25… it’s at the top of that range right now, and it appears to me that it’s probably Paul Mampilly’s pressure driving it up, since the stock has climbed about 25% in two days.
I don’t know whether the company’s fundamentals mean it should be trading at this $25 price, but I don’t see any fundamental change between Monday and today, and it was trading at $19 on Monday… so in these kinds of situations it’s always important to be a bit wary. Buying pressure doesn’t necessarily keep stocks moving up forever, particularly if it’s just buying pressure from a newsletter recommendation… that newsletter will move on and recommend different stocks, or the pundit might even suggest a sell at some point, you never know. Or maybe it’s the beginning of a massive blaze of enthusiasm, and the fire has just been lit — I tend on the side of skepticism after these kinds of pops, but I don’t know the stock well.
Analysts are predicting continued revenue growth for FMI, but not anything that will be in danger of tipping them over into profitability anytime soon — they’re expected to lose $3 a share when they report in about two weeks, and another $3 a share in 2017 and $2 a share in 2018 on 20%ish revenue growth. They have already pre-announced 2016 numbers, in a press release that came out on January 9[10] and had little to no impact on the share price, so it seems silly to count on the earnings providing a positive surprise beyond that.
And the company also noted that this year, as they transition to a new CEO, they have the following non-financially-specific outlook:
“As part of Foundation Medicine’s commitment to being a partner for the patient journey, the company expects to advance a number of key business objectives in 2017. These include: advancing its universal, pan-cancer companion diagnostic assay through the FDA[11] and CMS parallel review process to decision and launch in the second half of 2017; broadening Medicare and third-party payer coverage for its clinical CGP products; growing clinical volume across its product portfolio, including expanded global market presence; and expanding its biopharma business, including additional companion diagnostic collaborations and SmartTrials clinical trial access programs.”
The business essentially develops and sells genetic tests (comprehensive genomic profiling, CGP). These are used both in testing patients and identifying strains of cancer, and in making assessments about which treatment is best for which variety of tumor a patient might have. That is certainly an interesting business, though I don’t know what the competition is like or whether FMI is likely to see their market share in the testing business balloon because of any specific tests they’re hoping to roll out this year.
And with that, I’ll leave you to it — it’s not a stock I’m buying, but the Roche investment is an important foundation for the shares and they do have positive trends in terms of sales and testing volume so there is a real business that is improving… whether that means it’s worth the $600 million market cap it had before Roche invested a couple years ago, or the $500 million it fell to a year ago, or the $850 million it popped to this week when it hit $25 a share, I have no idea — that’s a lot of volatility for a company whose numbers do not change all that much, and which is nowhere near profitability even with pretty solid revenue growth projected, so you’ll have to make your own call. Let us know what you think with a comment below.
P.S. On the “insider ownership” bit FMI has been hit or miss over the past few years — they do have some substantial insider ownership, though it pales compared to Roche’s giant stake, but there has not been any buying over the past six months, just the (fairly typical) steady stream of relatively small sales from insiders. Having insider owners in itself is generally “a good thing,” all else being equal, though if you’re looking for the impact on shares the only real academic research into this indicates that the only thing that indicates a stock has a better chance of rising is when multiple C-suite insiders buy shares with their own money (i.e., not just getting a grant of stock or stock options[12] that don’t cost them anything). Having employees who buy stock is far more compelling as a “tell” for possible good things happening than having employees who are given stock as part of their compensation.
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Also, not to defend Banyan Hill Publishing, but there is another legit reason why they charge $3000 for the service- that is to keep every John and Joe on the street from having access to the information. Some EF subscribers might think they are helping themselves out by giving out the pick in the short run to pump it up, but in the long run, if EVERYONE on the street knows the pick, you are just hurting yourself! Besides, you paid crazy money for it, why would you want to share it with everyone in the world for free?? At least charge for it! Most people on these discussion forums just want it all for free; they wouldn’t even pay to become a member of StockGumShoe, which is only $59 per year! I definitely have a problem with that.:)
On a different note to my fellow EF subscribers out there, I think Banyan Hill has gotten really sneaky with their possible “front runners activity” with the EF stocks. Not sure if everyone knew, but Paul supposedly released an announced “Special Report” pick after the market closed on Friday 1/19/18, so that stock didn’t spike at all that day. But if you look further back, that stock actually spiked 30-40% already the day before on 1/18/18! So my guess is they loaded themselves big time on with the stock and when everyone goes in to buy, they will sell. I was surprised to see that the stock continued to climbed today! Regardless, I think all the subscribers need to write to them, question them and complain again!:) In the past, the stock would spike like an HOUR BEFORE release, now it’s the DAY BEFORE. They have gotten smarter…..
You are wasting your time. Griping will get you nowhere and it could make you more frustrated, by trying. They are not going to stop doing what they are doing. More importantly, if the pick suggested is a good advice then the stock will just go on itself, making all your concerns moot.
That said, its Banyon Hill’s information to disseminate whenever they want (just reread your own thoughts). Indeed it sounds like they are selling right when you are buying…which, if so, defeats a major gripe you had for all of us buying on “free” information.
As for EF, from what I can discern, their picks, excepting FMI, have been dismal. Now it seems KNDI might be in a free fall which would make, from what I know, more total losing stocks than winners! Now that’s expensive; and that is a problem.
I’m guessing TM is working out better (now) than the EF program.
All that said, for those that made the FMI trade, EF has been worth every penny. You just had to buy it on Day 1. And more after that.
One more thing-
This has been the biggest bull market in 100 years. Hence, it could be we really don’t need this “expert advice.” Just by buying 25 of the 30 Dow stocks would have served each one of us fine.
There are literally a 1000 stocks that have “True Momentum” right now.
Hank,
You are a wise investor. As much as I like to rip on those “free loaders”, you always have good advice to share. You are alright in my book.:)
Well I did buy KNDI. I bought into the the China story but I have some Chinese stocks that are going up and not behaving like KNDI is.
KNDI did a quick double and I took my eye off the chart. (So that wasn’t good.)
I unloaded some KNDI at the opening bell today and I’m unloading more tomorrow; after that I’ll have 33% left and I won’t be bothered.
I hope everyone here read Saturday’s Barrons. I wrote down every symbol and then looked at every chart picking out the ones which had patterns I liked. Then I went back and read all the commentary to find which comments I liked and picked two of the stocks that had both a chart I liked along with comments I liked. (I found three.)
Every year the Roundtable has about 5 stocks that triple but its hard to pick the ones that do. (As most know, the Roundtable also has disasters.)
We need to get a break from Mampilly every now and then.
Hank,
Since you always have good insight to give. I am going to share something with you too. Paul explained on last week’s podcast why his EF stocks are so volatile. This is what he said,
“Market makers are in this business to make money themselves. Just like any other store or business, they’re looking to make a profit. The way the make a profit is that, when you go to sell them something, which for them is just like any other piece of merchandise, in our case it’s our stocks, they’re going to mark that stock down so they can resell it for a profit to somebody else.
When you go to buy the stock, they’re either going to take it out of what they call their stock inventory, and mark it up by 10% or 15%, and sell it to you. This back-and-forth movement as buyers and sellers come in is what causes the up-and-down movement.
Because of the fact that there aren’t that many buyers or sellers on a day-to-day basis, it causes this huge band of volatility that our stocks trade in. If a large seller comes in, they will knock the stock down 15% or 20%. You’ll see that at the open in some cases.”
I don’t know about other people, but I would never invest in money that I can’t afford to lose. Unless you invest a fortune on his EF stocks, he (Paul) actually has a lot more to lose than most investors. His reputation and career is on the line. If he fails to deliver this year, he can pretty much kiss his EF service good bye.
And I am sure all those people voting down on me are freeloaders. If you are not, you would’t have a problem with what I said. At least I created a stimulating discussion thread for everyone.
Thanks EF but, IMO, PM’s ‘bread and butter’ is his PU membership which has 100,000 subscribers. (Or is it 200,000?) PM could kiss EF and TM away, leave BH, and still have his following.
Yes, I like PM…but he is NOT my guru: no one is. He is just one guy I listen to among several.
And yes, I know about the market makers. I just see a possible breakdown pattern for KNDI and I’m lightening up.
I can always get back in…………which I would hope to.
In other words, I can “afford the loss,” but I’d rather go elsewhere…even go elsewhere immediately with another Chinese stock that is performing NOW..
I am always learning……….learning about myself…. and how to trade for myself.
Hank, EFtrader and all, for good ideas where to invest in the biotech check out this ETF https://ark-funds.com/arkg
I bought the ETF myself and I also bought some of the stocks they have in their list (CRISP, NTLA, and EDIT). I missed on Juno…but I am researching some of the other stocks in their portfolio. I also like their innovation ETF, but I do not like the large exposure to Bitcoin. Cheers
The market makers spiel is what he says about every other month. Funny that wasn’t included in the sales pitch. Nearing a year now for EF and you NEVER hear about the original pitch of 1,000% gainers, 40/yr on average. Tired of the market makers excuses. I still believe most of the picks will bode well in the future. That was not the premise to which EF was marketed. A few of those “homeruns” would be nice. OK, how about just one!?
I might add that ‘spiel’ is as old as the Bible itself. It’s old news and anyone who ever traded a single stock much less been in the business 40 years as I have knows you often get bad fills on both ends, you get bad advice not just from others but from yourself!
You can get caught “in the chop” for months while other’s have positions that flourish. The very best traders made make expensive mistakes. The list goes on.
Hence, such advice about ‘market makers’ is explanatory yes (somewhat helpful), but essentially worthless.
Here’s something we all know:
PU was worth it; FMI was also a brilliant pick (with $30 bucks upside still to go?), and that’s about it so far for PM. As for TM, we’ll see how that all ends, but momentum, of course, goes both ways.
I’ve said this before: the biggest problem in trading is ourselves, our own naivete, our lack of experience around here which I’ll say again: YOU CAN’T BUY!
You can read wisdom and the words of the smartest people all day long. It doesn’t impart. Experience comes over decades not years. And that experience still might NOT make you rich.
There is another ‘get it’ factor that has to kick in after the experience thing. In other words, things work well for about 10%.
Good luck to all. Read the WSJ, Barrons, IBD every day. IBD has ideas every day. Study IBD. Keep records. And buy charts books and read them.
Eventually we ALL have to be our own Paul Mampilly.
Hank, What is going on with IVAC these days? I see increased activity. Is it time to get back in? Is the chart forming a cup?
Archegos
Arch. I never got back into IVAC. It’s still on my board but, like PI, it appears to me as a ruined stock. I am more surprised about PI’s “ruin” frankly, but I think Paul Mampilly spoke to such ruin in his best commentary ever–his last letter for PU members.
In that missive Paul mentioned his failed pick regarding Albemarle. Paul essentailly said he wasn’t going to stay in front of that freight train or falling safe. He got out with an immediate and significant loss.
Everything about that recommendation went off the rails.
Paul went on to mention that it appeared the “market makers” went after Albemarle on purpose so they might own the stock themselves at a far lower price.
Of course I don’t know if such shenanigans really take place, but I have wondered the same. Paul mentioned the rules whereby the ‘market makers’ take stocks down at the bell. In other words, the loss was instantaneous.
As a derivative trader, and one currently in an active position I can attest someone–big money, hedge funds–play vicious games. And they are good at it. One has to have an inordinate amount of confidence to stay in many positions and often we find “we” find we DON’T have that confidence.
Arch, IVAC, at this price, could be a takeout; it might be worth a 200 share gambit; but for me, I don’t see a “cup pattern–or a cup and handle.” I see a powerful downtrend that will never end.
For me, betting big is the only reason to be in IVAC. I don’t have the feeling and confidence to bet big on IVAC.
As with PI, I’m going to put my money elsewhere. There are so many things out there that interest me more.
Yes, I agree. That’s why I think Paul has to deliver this year, and I think he has more to lose than the average investor.
Don’t you love it when Banyan Hill Publishing still has the nerve to ask you to sign up for the “Lifetime Membership”? People should never fall for that. You have to make them work for it. If they want your money, they have to produce results. Giving them money in advance gives them even less motivation to deliver what they promised.
Just food for thought. On last week’s EF podcast, Paul explained that there is no way Banyan Hill Publishing could have participated in any “pump and dump” or “front runners” activity because all the editorial staffs are prohibited from owning any stocks they recommend the readers to buy. But Paul’s EF stocks are supposedly touted to generate 1,000% returns right? So it just makes you wonder how much money are the editorial staffs getting paid? It’s only logical to assume whatever they are getting paid, have to be more than 1,000% return potential to make it worthwhile right? 🙂
So I am a subscriber for TM and PU.. I got an email that TM subscribers in less than a year, are sitting on a total gains of 325.42% .. and I was like, that doesn’t makes sense and as I read through the email, I realized that they add individual gains of each stock and claim those huge numbers. In other words if he recommends 100 stocks and each has a 10% profit. he claims a total of 1000% 🙂 I was like WTF just happened.
@Lammaster: I got a promotion offer for TM for $2K from PM. I am debating whether to purchase or not. How many of his 24 stocks from last year made more than 10% profit? what was the real total again from his picks?
Does anyone have any experience or feedback with the 2 new premium services that Banyan Hill is promoting: namely Ian King’s Crypto Profit Trading and Matt Badiali’s Front Line Profits? Both promise over 1,000% return and of course again no refunds are allowed. Would love to hear what others think or if anyone actually subscribes to them. I have Extreme Fortunes and a few other services that I will be more than happy to share and exchange. If interested, please feel free to email me EFtrader2017@gmail.com to discuss.
Thanks.
Great article, very thorough dissection of the marketing hype. I just received an e-mail about this and it is still the same presentation, over a year old! So Foundation Medicine is now $81 (well done Paul) but should we still buy it considering he recommended it at $25?! The least they could do when promoting a $2,900 product is have an up-to-date presentation.
Extreme Fortunes I think is pitching MYGN ticker symbol but I don’t see much upward movement at this time. Maybe just watch it but it is in the personalized medicine category to end all disease. What I have come to realize is by the time you join a newsletter the pitchers have already been in and bought the stock at low price and when it escalates they can give you the 100% gain stories, etc. If you don’t sell off everything you already own and buy into their portfolio it won”t work as they describe. I bought jr gold miners a year+ ago and just watch it edge up a notch and down and lower now so need my money to work so buying some dividend and some growth. Would like to know the 5 hot chinese stocks that Louie Navellier is pushing now. Sounds interesting but his price way too much for my budget and everything hyped to the moon. Thanks for reading.
Knowing when to sell requires a genius that few to none of us have, including Paul Mampilly. Selling is, without a doubt, the single biggest unknown and, perhaps, the single most important thing TO know.
In Mampilly’s case, it doesn’t look like he has a ‘technical’ guru on his staff, hence, he has zero shot in telling us how/when to sell our winners as technical analysis is everything regarding this conundrum.
He just has a formula–so to speak–for selling only his losers.
IS THIS TIME TO SELL AND SIT IDLE FOR SOME TIME???
I bought into Extreme Fortunes as well as a couple other Banyon Hill publications and lost thousands on their recommendations. Embarassed to admit I just bought into Agora Financial and Zach Scheidt Black Box front trade pitch . Supposed to include a tablet computer in the very expensive price. Have called and still no tablet and “shipping the end of the week” is the standard answer. The recommendations are sent early Wed mornings so everyone can buy along with the “front traders”. I think no truth can be found here. Something really fishy here as the recommendations mostly drop like rocks and you immediately start losing money. No recourse as the fee is not refundable. These smooth talking advisors will gladly separate you from your last dime and then tell you that investing has risk. Stay far away and study Buffets method. He studies a company and gets to know before he buys and pays no attention to all the “noise” out there. Better to buy the top stocks at lowest prices and be patient in waiting for an entry point even if it takes months to do so. Learning to invest is like a college degree…expensive.
“I bought into Extreme Fortunes as well as a couple other Banyon Hill publications and lost thousands on their recommendations.” I know this is really no comfort at all for you, but, you are not alone. Plus, Magic Box? No.
FMI – any advise on holding this stock ?
PM says hold for now
Well, it’s about time. Paul finally hit something big for EF and TM.
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After this windfall I can afford to get into one of the services not covered. How do I get hold of you?
Email me at EFtrader2017@gmail.com
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