“One .62 Company Just Perfected Sunless Solar”

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, October 25, 2010

“It’s over 300% more efficient than rooftop solar panels… It generates electricity on any surface… And I recently infiltrated a university lab to see it work for myself…”

That’s how the teaser opens from Jeff Siegel for Green Chip Stocks Premium opens for us — and it certainly has gotten many of my delightful readers all hot and bothered. Like so many ads for this and other alternative energy investment newsletters, the implication is that there’s been a breakthrough and that this small micro-cap company can become the leader of the next generation of stock superstars.

And like most newsletters, this one seems to have employed the services of a first-rate storyteller in crafting their ad copy. Here’s how Siegel builds the excitement:

“For the past several months, I tried contacting the office of a very high-tech company.

“Rumors were spreading that this outfit – right outside Washington D.C. – somehow unlocked one of the largest sources of energy anywhere on earth.

“Not in a lab at MIT… Not on a deepwater rig… Not under the sand of an OPEC nation…

“… But in a tiny office building, across the street from a Starbucks and a KFC, near our nation’s capital.

“To give you an idea how much energy might be at this company’s fingertips, if the rumors were true, its systems could eventually capture more energy in a single month than Saudi Arabia will produce in the next 50 years!

“The breakthrough is what is called a solar window – on steroids.”

And this “solar window” is apparently a huge breakthrough, increasing efficiency, making installation cheap and easy, and it’s just a spray-on film that collects the electrical energy not just from sunlight, but from artificial light sources, too (they give the example of a streetlight — though of course, generating energy is a pretty silly and inefficient use of artificial light on general principle, since the person who pays the streetlight bill is essentially paying a dollar so you can generate a few cents of electricity, though I suppose you can make some argument about using light that would otherwise have been wasted).

The story of this exciting discovery by Siegel takes a turn when he stumbles across a press release, we’re told …

“If this company really could do what it claimed, it’s been kept it under tighter wraps than the alien landing at Roswell.

“I was beginning to have my doubts. And there was no way – without proof from my own eyes – I would dare recommend this company to any investor.

“I was about to toss it by the wayside.

“That is, until I came across an odd press release.

“Apprently, one of the company’s researchers would be holding an exclusive demonstration of their solar window inside a physics lab at a Florida University later that day.”

And so, as you can imagine, our intrepid teaser-meister took a trip down to this lab and paints the picture for us:

“The lab was standing room only.

“Physicists, company executives, a CNBC team, and a few ‘suspected buyers’ gathered shoulder-to-shoulder around a bisected home in the center of a dark room.

“At first glance, it looked like any other scaled down house.

“There were no rooftop panels… no wires… no tinted windows.

“But as the CEO explained shortly before the blinds went up, the windows were sprayed with the company’s one-of-a-kind solar formula.

“You couldn’t tell anything happened to them. They looked like regular windows you’d find on any house or office building.

“Then, the curtains went up, and the sun’s rays hit the windows.

“Immediately, lights inside the house turned on.

“As far as regular, expensive and boxy solar panels would be concerned, it was nothing special.

“Except there were no panels.

“And as the CEO quickly demonstrated, his company’s spray on solar cells weren’t only several times cheaper, and able to be applied at room temperature to ANY window instantly…

“… But this near-invisible solar spray is 300% more powerful than regular, expensive rooftop solar panels!”

So we’ll give a pass to the idea that this is some sort of hot secret, yet there was a CNBC team in the demonstration. Sounds pretty interesting, yes? Solar windows and solar film are the stuff of alt energy dreams, after all, a simple way to generate energy without big solar panels or heavy expenses to retrofit old homes and businesses.

And so we’ve seen some variations on this teaser that say that “Utilities will hate this company” … apparently because we just won’t need to buy power from them anymore. Here’s how Siegel puts it:

“Even in the short time since the demonstration, many think this window will single-handedly transform the energy market, making electric utility companies nearly obsolete… similar to what the PC and Windows did to typewriter companies like Brother and Smith Corona.”

And he says he thinks the stock is about to “go ballistic”, moving up to $4.31 or more in the coming years from the current 62 cents, creating gains of 595%.

He goes on to say that this will be in part because of the breakthroughs of this technology, and in part because of the recent renaissance in solar stocks that has investors searching for the next big thing.

So what is this company with it’s “solar glass” technology? Well, there are several companies working at developing similar technologies for building integrated photovoltaics (BIPV), but it seems clear that for this tease they’re talking about …

New Energy Technologies (trades over the counter at NENE)

And just to reinforce that assessment, the stock has already jumped up a good 15% or so this morning after the weekend of aggressive teasing by the Green Chip Stocks Premium folks. Not surprising, since it’s got a market cap of less than $50 million and usually trades just about 75,000 shares a day … but has seen over a million shares change hands already today. If you send this much attention pouring into a teensy stock, you’re not going to be able to prevent it from shooting skyward.

Even the attention from yours truly, though I have plenty of doubts about the company’s prospects, will probably spur the shares higher still — when a stock’s this small, just getting the word out makes it move, it sometimes seems as though it almost doesn’t matter what you say.

And of course, maybe Siegel’s right, maybe these guys will be to First Solar what IBM was to Smith Corona … I’m just not holding my breath.

For more information on the company, which did stage a demonstration of the technology in Tampa last month, you can certainly visit their website and poke around a little — this solar product of theirs is called SolarWindow, and their other project is called MotionPower (that one somehow generates energy by collecting extra kinetic energy from vehicles who are stopping at drive-thru windows and tollbooths).

I may not be the last person who could tell you which of the dozens of different nanoparticle-based thin film solar systems will end up being commercially viable — but I would be pretty close to the end of that line. All I can tell you is that all of these companies are losing money as far as I can tell (New Energy Techologies has accumulated about seven million dollars in losses so far, many of the other researchers in this area are private or nonprofit still, like EnSol in Norway, though some big solar companies are also doing R&D in the area) and will continue losing money for probably a long time before a commercially viable product is developed and sold in scale.

There’s no particular point in going through New Energy’s financials — all I really see is a list of accumulated costs that are being capitalized over time as they sell more stock and raise more money and book more losses in R&D, salaries, and administrative and investor relations expenses. Doesn’t mean that can’t turn around at some point, or that they mightn’t have a big solar company swoop in and buy them up for the technology, just that the main reason to watch the books right now is to see when they’re likely to need to raise more money.

The idea for this technology is not new, having been kicked around for over a decade and given a kick start from nanotechnology developments in the last five years or so, but it has proven a tough nut to crack. New Energy Technologies has a research agreement with the University of South Florida that gives them exclusive license to this technology if it becomes commercially viable, but they also have had similar research agreements in the past with Oakland University and the University of Illinois, and those agreements were cancelled according to their last 10-K, for what reason I don’t know.

That’s not to say that you can’t make money from early stage technology companies, of course, just that you’re not going to be making money because they’re making money — this company, like many, is still proving its technology and trying to develop a commercial product, the stock may well move based on the recommendations of fairly high-volume newsletter folks like Jeff Siegel, but those moves aren’t going to be predictable (unless you happen to know what Siegel will say, and when he’ll say it … and even then, no guarantees). Like most stocks where the teaser writer promises lottery-like returns, it’s worth remembering that yes, most lottery tickets get torn up and thrown in the street in front of the 7-11.

I don’t know what will happen with this company, and to a layperson the technology for both their products looks really cool … but that’s not enough reason for your friendly neighborhood Gumshoe to plunk down the college fund on this gamble. If I look more deeply into the company and change my mind, I’ll let you know — and you can do the same with a comment below.

And if you’ve tried a subscription to Green Chip Stocks Premium, let us know what you thought by clicking here to review it for your fellow investors. We don’t have any reviews of this newsletter with that name, but do have several reader reviews of Green Chip Stocks by the same editor (I think that used to be a paid newsletter too, it’s now free and “Premium” has apparently taken the paid slot).


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john
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October 25, 2010 2:16 pm

are you pumping and dumpimng about news that is one month old

Dlst
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Dlst
October 25, 2010 2:42 pm

When the blinds went up, what lights turned on? 1/2 milliwatt bulbs in a toy house? This claim sounds a little too good to be true, but we can always hope. The Motionpower thing was pumped by "Burger King" Lebed a year or so ago and didn't the Gumshoe cover it?

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October 25, 2010 2:52 pm

Lebed. Is he still around? I lost alot of money because of him.

David
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David
October 25, 2010 3:20 pm

I don't understand why it's called "sunless:

Carbon Bigfoot
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Carbon Bigfoot
January 19, 2015 10:13 am

Because their pulling the energy out of their arse. I could list all the technical problems,
let alone thermodynamic issues, but I have better things to do like take a sheet.

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archives2001
May 28, 2016 6:37 pm

Better poke a couple holes in it b4 u put it on your head..lol!

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May 28, 2016 8:56 pm

Their premise will not stand up to examination in the light of day,, thus must remain sunless. IMHO

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October 25, 2010 4:30 pm
sooku
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December 24, 2014 8:27 pm

Your links are about Octillion, which is now NENE. From NENE’s most recent Form 10-K: “We were incorporated in the State of Nevada on May 5, 1998, under the name “Octillion Corp.” On December 2, 2008, we amended our Articles of Incorporation to change our name to New Energy Technologies, Inc. “

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Sam
January 19, 2015 6:13 pm

That’s good, because you would be the right person to answer my question.
Do you think that your stock would go to$4.31?

irreg16
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October 25, 2010 4:56 pm

Lebed, i believe, is also part of NIA, the National Inflation Association, but keeps a low profile.

CS

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October 25, 2010 7:43 pm
Back in year 2007, Gumshoe reviewed a similar story from Siegel (angelnexus). That story was also about a "solar window", which had characteristics repeated in Siegel's recent story. Even some of the same phrases– "could produce as much electricity in one month as Saudi Arabia produces in a year" and "nano-size particles coated on windows– (my paraphrases, without rereading). At that time, one of two candidate companies was going to make us all rich–Octillion (OCTL) & Open Energy (OEGY); last reported trade in Yahoo was resp., 17cents and 6 cents a share, Nov 17 (2009)? CAN ANYONE STOP THE BS… Read more »
Bob
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October 25, 2010 7:45 pm

This is right up there with cold fusion….if it were true and ready to go there is no doubt it would be worth a lot of money. But…if something sounds too good to be true, chances are….

rodoc
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October 25, 2010 8:31 pm

Back in year 2007, Gumshoe reviewed a similar story from Siegel, also about a "solar window". Even some of the same phrases "could produce as much electricity in one month as Saudi Arabia produces in a year" (my paraphrase, without rereading). At that time, two possible companies were going to make us all rich–Octillion (OCTL) & Open Energy Corp (OEGY), last Yahoo quotes were 17 and 6 cents per share, resp. Sound familiar?

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October 25, 2010 10:08 pm

>>any light passing through is energy lost.

Good point…if the sprayed windows really appear transparent like normal glass, it means they're not absorbing visible light. It'd be more impressive if the spray turned the glass opaque black. Less effective for a scam, though, as we need to see thru windows.

Robert Michael
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October 25, 2011 3:19 am
“Although much is unknown, does not mean it is unknowable”-You don’t even comprehend how much you don’t know….so what if a percentage “passing through” windows equals lost energy-if it captures just 1% of sun’s energy power, it can blow away Sunpower’s best PV setup. The real question should be; the ONE I have-where’s Concentrated Solar Power disappeared to? I was reading about a kid genius from India-I think he was 12, had improved THE BEST CSP-which is already ten times better than best PVs, thinking about calling my good friend-a quadriplegic Engineer at Sandia NL here in ABQ (home to… Read more »
Jan
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October 26, 2010 12:15 am

Sunpower has the most efficient panels converting close to 25 % of the Solar energy to electricity which is getting close to the theoretical limit (not sure what that is exactly)

So I don’t know how it could be 300% more “efficient”

Now it might be able to be more cost effective eventually but it will be impossible to be 3x as efficient

Robert Michael
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October 25, 2011 3:25 am

“Scientists arrogantly proclaimed the atom was the smallest (unit) there is”. NOTHING is impossible-unless you believe it is-then, in your world, it is. More correct to say “…known to man At This Time…”

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macann
October 26, 2010 12:34 am

I confirm the OEGY comment. I bought on the strength of a very similar write-up from Jeff Siegel – and lost my money.
A geo-thermal company that was supposed to go 'gangbusters' is just chugging along, despite having met all its objectives.
Don't put your money where Siegel's mouth is.

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October 26, 2010 12:38 am

Comment from Rodoc "At that time, two possible companies were going to make us all rich–Octillion (OCTL)" Octillion is the old name of New Energy Technologies.

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Joyce F.
October 26, 2010 1:48 am

I bought OCTL three years ago. Kept the stock, followed agressively – the company became NENE, saw the demo myself and I was amazed at the progress. I'm buying more shares – NENE holds 75 international patents…I knew three years ago it was a good investment…this one will pay off.

sooku
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December 24, 2014 8:29 pm

Pump and dump alert! How do you sleep at night?

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October 26, 2010 4:07 pm

IIf If something seems too good to be true, it is foolish to fall for it.

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October 26, 2010 4:17 pm

Ressurecting an old concept. Years ago, xsunx touted solar windows as THE answer to efficient solar power. Bought some at .90, doubled at 1.50, Up to 2.00, oh, oh, back to 1.50. Bye,Bye. Xsunx is now developing a new solar panel, more traditional with a unique convergant system. Selling for .10. They are diligent and will keep plugging away until they are successful or go broke. I wish them luck, Segal has been around for a long time, getting into the "Green" area long ago. He is sharp, but there may be better places for your USD.

Robert Michael
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October 25, 2011 3:30 am

ever hear of a trailing stop? Sure, you’re getting over 100% returns in a short time-but you ARE (or would have been) getting 100%++returns.

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October 29, 2010 1:42 pm
Let’s have some fun with typos. First, we have this from the copywriter: “If this company really could do what it claimed, it’s been kept it under tighter wraps than the alien landing at Roswell.” Did you get it? No? Read it again slowly. I will give you a hint. It’s in this part of the sentence: “it’s been kept it.” Next, “Apprently, one of the company’s researchers would be holding an exclusive demonstration of their solar window inside a physics lab at a Florida University later that day.” Did you catch that one? Hint, look at the very first… Read more »
Rusty Brown
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January 19, 2015 11:29 am

Yes, indeed. And thank you.
It’s all about credibility. You can tell at glance whether what you’re reading is worth the time just on the grammar, spelling, syntax etc.

John
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October 30, 2010 7:24 pm

Does anybody know what Jim Nelson of Agora Financial, "Scandinavian Income Certificate, a government backed Pension from Norwegian National Petroleum Fund"
is? Supposedly a new research report he is offering for a new subscription to his financial wealth news letter.

mark
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January 19, 2015 3:36 pm

Possibly Statoil (STO).

Fabian
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January 19, 2015 11:16 pm

Certainly Statoil.

Skipper Dipper
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November 1, 2010 10:21 am

Kender Solar has built 2 prototype generators that they call "Solar" but really it functions like a heat exchanger. It produces electricity from the heat in the atmosphere as well as direct solar when it's available. Works at night…even on cool days. A game changer if they can make it commercially…

Rusty Brown
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January 19, 2015 11:36 am

Sounds like a next-generation heat pump. Clever, but not so new.
I remember when Don “Mr. Wizard” Herbert was flogging heat pumps on GE Theater, back in the 1950s with a guy named Ronald Reagan speaking on behalf of GE.
So now they can use them to generate electricity. Clever.

jerry richards
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jerry richards
November 1, 2010 2:51 pm

My first post also. Has anyone read anything about this "spray on" film washing off in the first rain? Has this been even tested?
JR

blackjack
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November 1, 2010 10:18 pm

anyone know what RObert Kurasaya from Conspiracy of the rich is talking about

Also, I’m back in the stock market, investing in one solar company. The stock price just moved to $5 a share. This company was recently awarded a rare certificate, the only company to be awarded one, opening up whole new markets. I believe the stock will go up, even if the stock market crashes. I have strong faith in solar, especially since I live in Phoenix.

he is referring to a co awarded a rare certificate and so not many clues

thanks

blackjack
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November 3, 2010 12:21 am

i have searched for a solar company that has this award and come up with nothing
surely someone in the know can advise what award this company has as it says no other company has it
I assume its an American company
any clues anyone

Sav
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Sav
November 3, 2010 10:22 am

I have also looked for this company but none of them seem to match and the ones that were close were not in the $5 dollar range.

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November 6, 2010 11:36 am
The only way that a panel could absorb energy from light, yet appear transparent is if it is very effective in absorbing long wavelengths in the ultraviolet category while not absorbing the visible wavelengths. This kind of function is aalready vailable in sunglasses , however, they usually have a light absorbing layer extending through the visible region.. I recall that Octillion first worked with the University of Illinois who actually discovered the technology of enhancing solar collector efficiency. The article, Silicon Nanoparticles Enhance Performance of Solar Cells, seems so explain the mode of operation http://scitizen.com/nanoscience/silicon-nanoparti… "In experiments where solar cells… Read more »
Robert Michael
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October 25, 2011 3:49 am

Poor reasoning, Proof it-you and I correct every typo we see-even on Nice restaurant menus. I tried to get on staff of an Internet Marketing Guru making SOLID Eight figures a year-he liked typos. They “show(ed) (he is) human-like (his) buyers!” -My changing his wording in preceding sentence is correct, but even YOU must see that it makes for bad copy. Did you catch that part? Let me say it again–SOLID 8 figures, as in around $23Million-likely greater than the entire readership here-Entrepreneurs-esp. super successful ones, are Risk Takers, by definition.

Robert Michael
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October 25, 2011 3:57 am

LOL, and poor comment positioning on my part-the preceding comment was for Proof It, while I was going to give Bud a TY for explaining much more clearly what I was saying Philosophically to the latter, higher post-athough I read it earlier-is that the theory of relativity as it applies to time? Or is my now beleagured rants a better example of time-as in “I’m rambling so badly, gumming up the convo here….it must be well past TIME for me to sleep-nite all! ;o)

Brian H
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Brian H
November 13, 2011 11:02 am

Duh-dum(b)! “long wavelengths in the ultraviolet category”??? I dung thang sew. UV is very short very energetic waves; Infra-red is the long stuff. Shorter than UV is X-rays, then comes gamma rays, all the way down.

Be keerfool wit’ yer kerrekshuns; they mite be rong!

sooku
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December 24, 2014 8:34 pm

And the link in his BS doesn’t exist.

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November 7, 2010 10:36 pm
The only thing I have come up with is BTU it matches but is about 7.50 bucks and it did win an award a few years back in EU i think On another issue I think after the advent of GRAPHENE and NANO carbon rods we are going to see solar power efficienies get to a realistic ROI. I have been reading everything on graphene and wondering where to get in – should I buy into the mining (no as there seems to be plenty of it) so I suggest looking into the value added side of it and some… Read more »
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November 9, 2010 7:45 pm

A lot of the energy from the sun is in the INFRARED region of the suns rays which are NOT visible to humans.

m.a.
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November 29, 2010 4:10 pm

I think I found it. They make flexible solar panels. they won an award in 2010 and got an IEC certification.

ELISSA JUNG
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December 31, 2010 6:17 pm

SOUNDS LIKE AN ALTERNATE ENERGY HOLDING INC…

Henry
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January 5, 2011 3:37 pm

I wI

Henry
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Henry
January 5, 2011 3:40 pm

EnI was looking at NENE when the share price was around 60 cents….now it is around @2….guess I missed the boat on this one, or escaped the noose, as the case may be.ter text right here!

james moylan
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February 11, 2011 12:36 pm

I have a web site where I research stocks under five dollars. I have many years of experience with these type of stocks. these type of stocks rarely work out. whenever a company makes extraordinary claims about a product or service this is a warning to stay away from the stock.

jc guyton
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March 5, 2011 10:38 pm

when is it market ready forspray on

Solar Matthew
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October 27, 2011 5:25 am

Be careful! There is much real, verifiable solar film tech in the world, such as solar window film know your market and you could make millions – imagine eht google of the solar tech co’s…

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November 13, 2011 11:15 am

Here’s a 4+ yr chart:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=NENE.OB&t=5y&l=on&z=l&q=b&c=
Spiked as high as $18 a few years ago, even around $8 in Jan ’11. Now $1.81. Oh, well. Time to buy! Or not.

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January 30, 2012 10:54 pm

Why does it have to be on a window. do people need to look out it for it to work, or is galss tha expensive that you could not put on glass and install on roof or a wall. He doing it again jan 2012 and the stock is under $2 has been to over $14. I guess watch the chart starts moving buy low and sell if it starts moving.

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July 2, 2012 3:28 am

Hi all. I am interested in NENE and have been following this counter for about a year.
I realize that there is a significant risk that this company might be a dud, given that it has not been able to produce a decent revenue stream to date.

Yet, I am encouraged by its highly visible work with the NREL (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/energy-technologies-inc-national-renewable-131500473.html)(http://www.newenergytechnologiesinc.com/new-energy/new-energy-technologies-inc-and-us-department-of-energys-national-renewable-energy-laboratory-fabricate-institutes-largest-ever-organic-photovoltaic-device), the appointment of Patrick Thompson to head the commercial development of the SolarWindow (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/energy-appoints-proven-executive-introduce-131500388.html) and its credible science team (http://www.newenergytechnologiesinc.com/new-energy/new-energy-appoints-business-partnering-and-scientific-experts-to-advance-technology-able-to-generate-electricity-on-see-through-glass).

Is there enough credibility in today’s NENE to take on risk?

Jon Loren
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December 18, 2014 2:43 pm

What s’ Up Doc = Anything New ?

Art Dude
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January 19, 2015 9:39 am

I have been following an energy reseller stock [symbol PRHL] that almost seems too good to be true and don’t understand why it hasn’t taken off yet. Anyone else know about this one?

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January 19, 2015 11:41 am

Sounds like b.s. to me.

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January 19, 2015 5:29 pm

Bill K says:

After recently selling my 2 year held NENE for a tax loss, I get this glowing up date directly from the company on their progress in the development of the solar window. Not having seen any company news release in this same period but observing much volume and stock
gyrations, this had all the appearance of real market manipulation. Having been in the market too many years to count, I will admit that some stories are just too good to
resist as are some women.

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January 19, 2015 6:41 pm
New technologies knock out the mindsets that declare “That is not possible!” I so enjoy each knock-out blow. One reason I so enjoy investing is that it keeps me aware of new technologies. And OCTL / NENE has been a cutting-edge sort of company and a fun stock for me. In 2007, I followed the news as NENE’s solar windows were demonstrated on various college campuses, raising interest (and raising the stock-price). Then the focus seemed to turn mostly to motion-power….with vehicles passing over a strip generating electricity. The strips were installed at fast food places in the take-out lanes,… Read more »
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January 20, 2015 7:59 pm

I believe if you check the pump and dump website, this hs been on their list for years. I just recognize the symbol. The name change is a red flag and i bet they have had reverse splits.

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sveasgrandad
May 22, 2016 7:33 am

What about WNDW?
http://solarwindow.com/

deCarabas
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deCarabas
October 25, 2010 2:27 pm

I just go the email from Jeff S. today so although some may have gotten this a month ago I didn't.

BizWiz
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December 6, 2010 4:09 pm

Green chip stocks wreaks of a boiler room

Devin65
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October 25, 2010 4:09 pm

If you read the article it can produce energy without using light from the sun.

Dlst
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October 25, 2010 4:41 pm

Which is pretty silly. "Dear, please turn on the lights—we need to generate some electricity so we can turn on the lights!"

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October 26, 2010 9:55 am

I don't think so, but it's certainly possible.

Gravity Switch
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October 26, 2010 9:56 am

Absolutely — makes an inefficient process even more so … though I always appreciated when my little solar calculator ran down it could run off the fluorescent lights. Of course, that was 25+ years ago, in high school.

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October 26, 2010 9:57 am

I didn't remember this, but should have checked — Octillion is the same company as NENE, I think, but haven't dug into the details. As I noted, they've had similar research deals with other universities for years that apparently went nowhere.

And for what it's worth, I don't think I ever specifically wrote about Octillion, though it was certainly brought up in comments and on the forum. It's possible, but doesn't ring a bell in my brain or ding on an archives search (both of which are imperfect, I'm afraid).

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October 30, 2010 8:14 pm

Put "Scandinavian Income Certificate" in the search box at the top of the page

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November 1, 2010 9:43 am
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November 13, 2011 11:06 am

That’s “reeks”. You’re wreaking mayhem on the English language.

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Craig
November 7, 2013 12:51 am
This comment from 2010 says it all, but no one seems to understand the point of see through glass Solar. This comment was made, about why would you turn the lights one to power the lights you just turned on…then this comment…Absolutely — makes an inefficient process even more so … though I always appreciated when my little solar calculator ran down it could run off the fluorescent lights. Of course, that was 25+ years ago, in high school. The point is the glass can power light from the sun AND the Lights burning from its own power. Making the… Read more »
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