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January 28, 2009 4:36 pm
Of all the newsletter I receive, and I am a sucker for about a dozen, my favorite is Kevin Kerr’s and Bryon King’s Outstanding Investments. You can get a pretty good evaluation of a newsletter’s pitch from its recommended portfolio. I have been a subscriber to OI for a couple of years and I found that their recommended portfolio most accurately follows my own investment outlook. A quick way to observe their investment philosophy is to list the major sectors of their portfolio. First is Oil & Gas, both drillers and servicers. Second is Power, with recommendations in coal and… Read more »
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Tampat
February 7, 2009 9:41 am

I have subscribed to this service for about 9 months. I believe they advertise they were ranked #1 newsletter the past 5 years. When I began many of their rec’s were up a great deal, but then they got killed like so many others with the market downturn. My biggest complaint is they dont seem to recommend when to sell, looks like a long term buy and hold service. They will need some gigantic gains to get back to break even.
They do give good analysis, but I wont renew when the service is up.

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McDrifter
February 7, 2009 9:42 am

I second what Richard said. OI does a very good job at explaining their picks and they are down to earth picks not some obscure fringe stock. I have done well with their picks in the short time I’ve been with them (2 months). The most consistent picks I have come across.

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farley 5
February 7, 2009 5:11 pm
Just a case of being in the right place at the right time and then not telling subscribers when to get out. Absolutely no consideration of supply and demand. Without names, in reverse purchase order, Oil & Gas, -1.89%, -82.52%, -55.35%, -44.60%, -59.32%, -35.58%, -3.97%, -39.32%, -41.96%, +7% sold in5-14-08, -38.07%, -54.62%, -30.35%, +142.59% purchased in 3-10-03, +236.38% purchased in 4-1-01, and +126.70 purchased in 11-1-00. Power, -29.89%, -38.81%, +87% sold in 12-11-07, -22%, -57.48%, -69.46%, and -16.48%. Alternative Technology, -67.03%, -45.90%, -89.60%, -3.58%, -32.16%, -72.31%, +17.10% purchased in 6-9-06, -63.04%, and -48.62%. Precious metals, -83.91%, -79-25%, -61.54%, +45.92% purchased… Read more »
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jchere
February 7, 2009 9:21 pm
I subscribed early last year. I canceled last month. I found that their recomendations looked good until I looked closer. They list the total gain and not CAGR. As a result, the investments of 2-6 years ago have large growth #s. As they seem to buy and hold, several of the older holdings have good looking #s until you calculate CAGR. Some still have good returns but they don’t look so good as the gross numbers. Ie: 150% gain, but they have held for 5 years. Now we are talking 8.4% CAGR. Their recomendations in the last year have largely… Read more »
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adamtapps
February 8, 2009 4:33 pm

All their picks were losers, none of the selections reached
a positive number. Their number one rating was when the market
was doing well. There never was a sell signal on any of their
stock picks. I lost a bundle. The agora newsletter in my
opinion is a scam.

thomas
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thomas
February 8, 2009 7:44 pm
I bought Hecla at 1,, rode it up to 13 and sold, then read that OI recommended to buy it up to 15, will double to 30 in 2 years. I bought it back. Then the stock rather quickly fell to 1, and now is less than 2. Notes to the editor Byron King did not get answered, and I found his attitude arrogant. He never told us when to get out, or acknowledge that the dynamics of the company and sector had dramatically changed. I dont believe he is “the best newsletter performer in the last 5 years”. I… Read more »
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jp
February 8, 2009 10:02 pm

Agora in general is a scam….

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eds
February 11, 2009 7:21 pm

Farley hit the nail on the head. Right place right time-not really much prowess. No sell disciplne, no attention to supply/demand. Has several stocks in the portfolio which are down 80% and should have recommended selling earlier. Completelty missed the commodity crash and continued recommending oil stocks right up to $147 despite the parabolic move.

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Bernie
February 11, 2009 11:28 pm
I subscribed to OI back in 2007 and I noted that most of the stock picks which had made good money had been around for awhile. Example:Eca was purchased originally in November 2000 and as of my last letter dated December 2008 stock had gained 157 percent. I cancelled in December 2008 for a lack of success. The publication is very good for information and the Editor Byron King is a very nice person but seldon ever recomends a sell. Out of 48 stocks only one had a sell and that was to sell half your holdings. Ten of the… Read more »
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Darrell
February 12, 2009 11:44 pm

Still have a couple months left on subscription and have not made any good profits. Don’t see the value.

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Elton's Dad
February 15, 2009 3:16 pm
I have subscribed to OI for 3 years off and on. I lost money a few years ago on the last big downturn. My objection is their advertizing copy (reports) are written late in the year for next year and by the spring they are out of date. You can get sucked in with their write-ups from last year while the whole market tanks. I agree with the thought that some time this year may be a good time for some of their quality pics to recover if you are strong enough to take further downturns and can hold for… Read more »
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MJ
February 16, 2009 11:22 am

I too lost a bundle on Agora’s pick of Hecla Mining. I believe it is still rated a buy on their news letter. In fact it’s worth so little I keep it in my portfolio as a reminder… Can’t say much positive about Agora except that they have a decent fundamental, entertaining out look at the markets and driving influences. They push investing in gold to the point of being obnoxious…

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NK
February 27, 2009 2:45 pm
Agree with farley 5. OI is al about hard assets. If hard assets do good OI does good. When oil was at 147 OI subscribers were the happiest of all. Byron shud have sold off then and he knew that oil prices were too high. But the market sell off took him by surprise too like many others. But really there is no excuse for lack of timing. Otherwise i would running an advisory too. For what it does OI is great. And who knows with peak oil coming of age maybe his portfolio will rise again like the phoenix.… Read more »
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ala
March 5, 2009 4:22 pm
When I first subscribed just over a year ago, I did an appraisal within the first 4 months and saw that the Hulbert praise had shortcomings. Yes, they did not give an exit point or buy more now hold etc., which was the reason I left Maybury’s Early Warning Report. I decided to use a few of their recc. as a basis for my own research. I Isolated a few : MDR, NG,HL,STP,IFX,DMLtsx,TRN. Bought NG at 0.49,IFX at an aggregate of $1.05,deep & at a loss of about48%,HL at $2.60,also about -50%as I write but intend to hold on as… Read more »
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Computer Guy
March 23, 2009 3:59 pm
I subscribed to OA in September 2008, not long before the stock market decided to tank. I have rollover IRA: I’m not currently adding money to it, and I cannot withdraw the funds without paying taxes and a substantial penalty. I am fairly new to the stock market. I figured that some advice would be helpful, but I can’t pay for the advice with funds from the IRA itself. So first of all, OA is an inexpensive newsletter; one should set expectations accordingly. Second, much more savvy stockholders than I have lost their shirts in recent markets. Third, I like… Read more »
Oliver Vandagriff
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March 24, 2009 6:36 pm
I subscribed to outstanding Investments about 9 months ago. If I had followed all their picks in equal amounts of stock, I would have lost more than 8%. I can only guess, but their analysts must have bought more stock (or options) in some of the winners than most of the losers. Of course they don’t share that information. I have looked for trends in trading on specific stocks on the day the email alert is received, and the following day. I have noticed that in 70% of those suggested picks, they will inevitably rise (average 4.3%) then lose it… Read more »
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MichaelC
March 27, 2009 1:40 pm

This one did great as long as oil and commodity prices went up. No stop losses; Byron fell in love with every pick and rode them all the way down so I dropped this service last year. Customer service sucked. Nobody ever returned and e-mail question and it was a pain getting anybody on the phone.

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DrH
March 28, 2009 11:11 am
I subscribed to OI last month. They sent me a packet of 6 folders. All of the information was old (probably 12-18 months old). They had some recommendations for companies (on their HOT LIST) that said “buy now at $32 … up to $34”. That stock is currently trading at $13 and hasn’t been $32 for over a year. Not impressed. Over all, the companies they recommended seem to be good and their explanations for why they recommended them are good. But, with the market collapse, all of those companies are down. Now might be a good time to start… Read more »
john
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March 29, 2009 1:41 pm
I have subscribed to OI for 2 years. I am not sure whether I will renew or not. It is relatively cheap as newsletters go and if nothing else it is a “good read” providing lots of information and interesting stories. As far as buying something because they recommend it goes, I have not done that very often and when I have it hasn’t worked out well. The problem? stories are so engaging that it is far too easy to to fall in love with the companies and forget that the whole purpose of investing and trading is to make… Read more »
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Greg
March 30, 2009 9:21 am
I’ve subscribed to Outstanding Investments for about six months now. They are the good, the bad, and the ugly of investment newsletters. The good is they provide some interesting ideas and a good general education into market segments that should have some long term value. The bad is as previously stated, they don’t adjust their portfolio or holdings to account for the substantial market turbulance that we have today, rather sticking to more of a longer term buy and hold philosphy which is risky in today’s bear market. The bad is they have a horrible “read non-existent” statement of risk.… Read more »
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NYCguy
April 25, 2009 9:22 pm
I have subscribed to OI for many years (from shortly after Meyers left as editor). OI picks in the natural resource sector, especially oil/ngas were very good. However, their timing is non-existent. So if you were an early subscriber like me, you might have made 100% or more on some of the picks, but if you didn’t sell you’ve given it all back and then some. I can’t recommend this newsletter because it doesn’t take profits, use stop losses, or use any sort of hedging technique to minimize the risk. However, I do enjoy Byron King’s writing, and Kevin Kerr… Read more »
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Max
April 29, 2009 7:56 am

They had a good run for 5 years on PM, energy, oil etc. but they never sold anything even though their other newsletters warned about the impending doom that came late 08. At the top the portfolio was up huge, but at the bottom? early 09 out of maybe close to 100 stocks only a few were in the black. Stocks went from +190% to -50% in few months!

This newsletter is concentrating mostly PM, oil etc. so until they start moving again there is no hope for it. Only thing that is good is the price: $69.

John
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John
May 2, 2009 4:22 pm
I just cancelled my subscription after 3 months. With the low price, I did not expect a lot. However, it has less to offer than I expected. I like their areas of focus mentioned in the first review, but their picks are pretty conventional. You can come up with a lot of these yourself without a lot of work. They take a couple of pages to review each pick, but there are very few original ideas in the writeup – most of the info can be found on the company’s website. Also, there is very little follow up of previous… Read more »
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Barbara
May 26, 2009 12:14 pm
Overall, I’m a VERY happy subscriber. That is, I’m a happy “$1-per-week” subscriber to a $50 newsletter. I subscribed to Outstanding Investments in May 2008. It was just as oil was running up to $147. When I signed up, I vowed that I would not just plunge in and start buying stocks just because some newsletter writer was talking about them. For a $1-per-week newsletter, I wanted to spend a couple of months just reading the email updates and other issues. I figured I’d just take it from there. At $50 per year it seemed like a good way to… Read more »
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JHEII
July 14, 2009 2:09 pm

Been a subscriber for several years and just have not got the hang of this newsletter nor made any good profits. Today’s email gave almost 20 sells almost all will be losers so Agora must be planning something new or they think the world is ending.

I will not resubscribe as I am trying to extricate myself from all the Agora Publications which have all been losers for me.

Kevin
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Kevin
July 15, 2009 12:56 pm

Just look at the stocks on the back of the newsletter – the overall performance has been a disaster for the last few years. You can agree with their long term philosophy, but that does not make them good stock pickers or market timers. They claim to be long term “buy and hold”, but they occasionally give sell recommendations, but always on a stock in which they have lost a fortune. I can not recall ever seeing them give a sell recommendation on a stock which they had made money.

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oilman
July 30, 2009 11:17 am
I subscribed to this for one year, but fortunately didn’t buy anything they recommended. The paper losses were about 80% loss in one year! If you note their “up” picks, they picked them several years ago. Anything they have recommended in the last year or two has been an absolute disaster. If you were lucky enough to buy in Jan-March, sure they are up, but so is everything. Look at their recommended purchase price, and where it is now. Disaster after disaster. Customer service was non-existant and they refused to answer my emails. Agora Publishing basically has over 150 newsletters… Read more »
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wesm
August 24, 2009 6:46 pm

Outstanding Investments–Agora Financial Group. Well written. Seems to give in depth analysis, but like all advisors I read, the picks are not up to much. I think advisors problem right now are the tricky times were are in. Wesm

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GudStock
September 9, 2009 4:40 pm

Subscribed early ’08 to Out. Inv., after seeing them ranked so highly in Hulberts. You can imagine their ‘performance’ the next 1-1/2 yrs., however I DID renew since every newsletter(as well as almost every investment)TANKED! I still like them, I subscribe to several newsletters, however THANK GOODNESS I finally discovered “Stock Gumshoe,” cause those Teaser ads drove me crazy! Thank you, Stock GumShoe.

Martin C
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Martin C
September 14, 2009 11:31 am

Outstanding Investments Byron King
Picked the beleaguered oils early this decade. Superior performance.

Gary Nole
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Gary Nole
November 18, 2009 12:57 pm

I bought the Outstanding Investments newsletter for the gold recommendation. It said that NG(Nova Gold) was its best gold recc. I have found now that of all of the minor gold stocks available that NG is the very worst of them all performance wise. It has stagnated, gone up and then gone down to about where it started. All I will say is O. I. reccs are not very good on gold.Very disappointed .

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November 23, 2009 12:02 pm

This newsletter is about picks from oil and natural resources
industry. During 2003-2008, anybody could have thrown a dart
at any company in these industries and made money since
every company in this industry was going up. After the energy
bubble bust, most of the picks have lost over 70% value.
Unless you think that the energy boom has legs, I would stay
away from this newsletter. My take is that the easy money
in energy industry was made during 2003-2008. From this point
onwards the future results are bound to be disappointing.

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hfj
February 15, 2010 6:41 am

An interesting newsletter with a long term view and a focus on natural resource picks (I would say – in order to make the comment relatively short – that it has the same qualities and limitations as, a.o., Leeb’s Complete Investor).

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downtrodden
February 23, 2010 2:01 am
I subscribed to this letter a few years back and dropped it, but succumbed to a two-year, $98 come on in late 2008. The result, more money flushed. As others have noted, it does little good that a recommendation from five years ago is up 300 percent if the subscriber came onboard within the past two years, when most of the recommendations have, to put it charitably, stunk. And, remember if you check the current portfolio, many losers have been sent to loser Heaven, dropped from the portfolio, along with their putrid performances. But what bothers me most is this:… Read more »
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Lukester
February 23, 2010 11:44 am
I subscribed to OI from 2003 to 2007 and consider it a very high quality newsletter for picks in the commodities space. Kevin Kerr is a very bright guy. Reading through the posts here I’m struck by the same issue I’ve seen in ALL the other newsletter reviews. There is a disconnect in people’s ability (or is it willingness?) to view the stock market as an arena that ***regularly*** hands out danger and mishap to ***all investments***. What does this mean? The markets primary purpose is to buck as many “long term investors” off it’s back as possible, and it… Read more »
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downtrodden
February 25, 2010 10:13 pm

Lukester,

Interesting “screed.” But …. Kevin Kerr no longer is with Outstanding Investments and hasn’t been for some time. Byron King is flying solo . . . and largely crashing.

So, in case you were thinking of re-subscribing for more Kerr wisdom, don’t bother.

If you opt to sign up, you will be provided losers to sit with for multiple years to give it a fair test.

Lukester
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Lukester
February 26, 2010 10:53 pm
Downtrodden – Yeah, I know they’ve had quite a bit of turnover at the helm of that letter. Maybe itsa notsa good as it useta be? It’s definitely hit and miss with those Agora guys. And by the same token, it’s definitely “lotsa gravy” for the publishing house owners, with all that big fat river of subscriber subscriptions coming in, eh? Agora are a real “slick” piece of work, no doubt about it. In the pejorative sense. I just plain don’t like them as they are just too darn glib and packaged to be palatable. But a few of their… Read more »
Danny K
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Danny K
March 18, 2010 10:39 am
I stumbled accross this newsletter in 2003 and was very enthused with the theories of its editor – John Myers. Specifically he talked about the inevitability of sky-tocketing prices in the area of non-renewable energy (oil and gas) and precious metals. I subscibed and did extremely well for 3 years. The editor was replaced with Byron King and the portfolio has stagnated and crashed. I still read it, but have stopped acting on the recommendations in the last 2 years. I still own stock i should have sold when it peaked – years ago – VLO, TSO specifically. I dont… Read more »
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walid
April 8, 2010 12:26 pm
In his article about the oncoming horrible predicted war in the middle east, and in order to stir the fear inward readers,Mr. Byron King narrating funny stories, filled with historical and geographical mistakes such as: 1- Hormuz strait connects Persian gulf with the Indian Ocean but not with Mideterranian sea,(geographical mistake), 2- Bab Al-Mandeb in Arabic doesn’t mean the door of tears, it means the door of feeling bad towards a dead person(interpreting mistake), 3- The coast which is rich of oil is the coast of the Persian gulf but not the Caspian sea(geographical mistake) 4- pointing out all aspects… Read more »
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J to the E to the F to the F
April 30, 2010 3:24 pm
I think a lot of folks that subscribe to this kind of investment material think that they’re going to invest in recommendations that are going to give instant gratification – and if they don’t, then it’s a ‘scam’ (remember when you assumed your home value would keep going up 8% a year?). I’m enjoying the irony of all of those commenters from last year that formed a negative opinion about OI from the Hecla Mining recommendation (just one example). Well with a little hindsight, that worked out well, didn’t it? Look, you bombed out on the SAME stock that I’m… Read more »
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Dick
May 12, 2010 8:01 pm

I subscribed for a year or so and dropped it because it underperformed the market. Since Hulbert ranked it high I resubscribed, but again it underperformed and I wont reneww

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Dave in AZ
January 29, 2011 11:25 pm
I appreciate and found Byron’s insights into the oil & metals field very interesting. That aside, after paying and signing up, I found all of the materials they sent were clearly out of date by about 2 years!! All this talk of deep water drilling, and no mention of BP or how public perception may have changed since the accident! They clearly try to disguise the age of the articles; there are no dates anywhere in the articles. But most importantly, the articles mention great gains on all these investments, but it is not clear the timeframe they are talking… Read more »
thomas glynn
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March 8, 2011 9:35 pm

i approciate reading this review. what i want to say is what people might have forgetten is to use a “good ’til cancel” order as protection against loss. use those fibinacci ratios/charts to find support and resistance levels. do not take more than 5% to 7% loss. ok so what if the stock goes up after it was automatically sold? well thats just the insurance you pay for disaster.

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Mark Hall
March 13, 2011 9:32 pm
I have been a subscriber for over 5 years. I have consistently made money on their recommendations. They pick the cream of the crop of the natural resource sector, mostly large caps plays. Yes, these resource stocks tanked when the market crashed a couple of years ago along with EVERYTHING else. But almost all of them have recovered to pre-crash levels and then some. I have only two complaints: There are a ton of stocks in their portfolio and it may be hard to buy all of them if you follow other services as well; and they don’t follow a… Read more »
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figuringitout
February 26, 2013 12:27 pm
The most vexing aspect of receiving this letter is the deluge of manipulative pitches (averaging 3 per day) that arrive in the inbox of subscribers. I have repeatedly asked to receive only the newsletter in question and not any other related offers and updates and customer service does not respond to my emails. I have written customer service three times and received nothing in response. The overtly smug political tone of everything they send also makes a huge assumption about subscribers that is annoying, to say the least. But that’s just the personality of this service, how about the performance?… Read more »
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February 26, 2013 12:29 pm

I subscribed for a couple of years then dropped it in a newsletter cull. It was always an interesting and educational read from a geological standpoint. I never lost money on any of the recommendations, because I never bought one!

jrlowelljr
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February 28, 2013 2:36 am

Well written, have had some good picks.

pbormann
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pbormann
September 17, 2013 1:47 am
Byron King maintains a high rating for his OI investment letter by keeping 12 year old picks in gold funds/stocks that were made by his predecessor. He rarely ever issues a sell reco or takes profits (in the three years I subscribed), just keeps piling up ever larger portfolio that no one could possible keep up with. Doesn’t use trailing stops so large losses can and do occur, like during the gulf BP disaster. But the most money I lost was with his Energy & Scarcity Investor letter. I lost many multiples of the over priced $1500/yr I paid ONCE… Read more »
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Bruce Harding
July 30, 2016 7:39 pm

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