“Government Guaranteed Zero-Downside Gold?!” Outstanding Investments

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, March 29, 2008

This one has been around for quite some time, but I thought many of my newer Gumshoe friends might have missed it. It’s a teaser for Agora’s Outstanding Investments newsletter — which is their cheapest one at $49 a year. But hey, even at $49 a year, why pay if you don’t want the newsletter? If you just want to know the gold investments they’re teasing us with, read on …

The “Government Guaranteed” gold investment — also called “zero downside gold” — is one of the five ways they’re recommending you invest in gold in their special report, “Bullion and Beyond: Five Stunning Ways to Get Richer on the Epic Metals Boom Ahead.” As far as I can tell, this is almost identical to the ad that they sent out about a year ago (and again and again throughout last year), and it looks like the teaser investments also remain the same.

But the one that really catches the attention of many of my readers is the “zero downside” — especially in this market environment. It can be frightening to buy gold at close to $1,000 an ounce if you vividly recall it trading at a few hundred dollars just a few years ago … or if you recall the collapse from $850 an ounce during the last wild bull run for gold a couple decades ago. So “zero downside” certainly sounds appealing.

How do they describe it?

“This new U.S. government-backed guarantee
lets you own gold with no risk… but with 100%
of the gains should gold prices take off.

Here’s the catch…

You must act on this by April 15 , 2008…
or you risk missing the official deadlineand
getting shut out of this forever…”

How can you resist that? Why on earth would anyone buy regular old gold if they could get this instead?

Well, that’s why the devil is in the details — and in the very misleading “100% of the gains” bit in that teaser.

You see, this “government guaranteed” gold investment is a Certificate of Deposit offered by Everbank. And the latest iteration does have a “funding date” of April 15, 2008 — though it has nothing to do with tax day, and they have consistently offered new versions of this product every few months. This latest one is a seven-year CD, all the previous ones have been five year CDs.

The principal is guaranteed, and it is insured just like any bank CD (up to $100,000). So that’s the good part.

What’s the bad part? The devil in the details?

Well, this is a seven-year CD, and you lose the guarantee on principal if you cash out early. So if you might need the money before 2015, this is definitely not the way to go. But that’s technically true of many CDs, so that’s not the big deal.

The big concern, at least compared with the way this investment is teased by Outstanding Investments, is that you are unlikely to get anywhere near the full 100% return in the spot price of gold over that time frame.

You see, this is not like a regular index fund. It does have the principal guarantee, so you can’t lose any money (unless you consider losing purchasing power due to inflation — you get the actual cash back, no guaranteed minimum yield).

But someone who didn’t read the fine print on the Everbank product term sheets might really misunderstand what their return will be like compared to the return on an investment in physical gold. Especially if they counted on the marketing language in the Outstanding Investments letter (I don’t know if this is still the case, but several times in the past when I’ve seen these products recommended it turned out that the newsletter publisher also had an affiliate relationship with Everbank, meaning they also get a kickback if and when their subscribers buy the CD. This is definitely not illegal and there’s not necessarily anything wrong with it if it’s not influencing their advisory decisions, especially since they disclose it to their subscribers, but it still might give a reasonable person pause).

You see, Everbank’s CD return on these “marketsafe” products is not based on the change in the price of gold from the funding date to the expiration date. It’s essentially based on the average price of gold between those two dates.

As you might imagine, those numbers can be very different, especially in a bull market for the commodity. A look at the back of the product sheet for this CD from Everbank will make this clear to you — in the raging bull market for gold from 1974 to 1981, for example, gold went from just over $100 an ounce to almost $600 an ounce. So if you had held gold for that time period, you would have had about a 450% return. If you had held the MarketSafe CD for that time period (it didn’t exist then, this is a hypothetical), your return would have been 145%.

There is a positive flip side in declining gold markets or if you happen to catch a seven year period where the price spikes up and then declines — so for most of the seven-year periods between 1978 and 1997, the CD would have outperformed the spot price of gold. That’s mostly because the CD couldn’t lose money, since the return on gold for most of those seven year periods was negative. For the last ten years, the CD dramatically underperformed the market as gold moved from under $300 to over $800 an ounce.

They calculate the return by choosing 14 dates during those seven years, averaging the spot price of gold on those 14 dates, and giving you the difference between the price of gold on the “Initial Value Date”, which is six months from the funding date, and the average of all the Pricing Dates (including that initial date). So one real key to this is the “initial value date”, but you have no idea what the price of gold will be on that date until six months after you’ve already committed your money. And it can be quite confusing — if gold shoots up to $2,000 and then back down to $500 over the next seven years, it’s going to be a trick of fate, depending on what the price is on those specific 14 days, what your return will be, if any.

The MarketSafe CD isn’t bad or evil, of course, it’s just a financial product with specific terms that share the risk between the CD holder and the bank in a way that they believe will make it profitable to them. It might work out in your favor, and it’s probably a good match for the needs of some people, but it’s definitely not a simple CD that gives you a principal guarantee and 100% of the return on gold over the next seven years — and folks who are used to traditional bank CDs might make some assumptions about this one without reading the details, which could lead to some frustration or disappointment. You can read the factsheet here (and no, I do not have any kind of affiliate relationship with EverBank). They also do the same thing, with similar rules and requirements, for Silver, for Japanese REITs, and a few other esoteric investments.

Oh, and the only investment in actual gold that’s really guaranteed, as far as I know? That’s the gold coined by the US Mint, and they only guarantee that it contains the amount of gold they say it does, not that it will be worth anything in the future. I assume most other national mints make this same guarantee, which is why there’s an active secondary market in bullion coins like American Eagles, South African Krugerrands, or Canadian Maple Leafs. Guaranteed to be gold, but no guarantee that gold becomes more valuable.

What are the other gold investments that they’ve been touting in this email? I don’t know that I’ve looked at all of them before, but the “Gold for a penny an ounce” one is almost certainly Yamana (AUY), which we looked at from another advisor’s ad recently.

The Gold ETF that they call “the safest way to own gold” is almost certainly just what you think it is, GLD, the ETF that represents physical gold that’s held in a vault for you (not an ETF of gold miners, which is also available).

And the “one gold stock to buy if you’re only buying one”, the company that is “ten steps ahead of every other gold producer” is, I’m fairly certain, Agnico-Eagle Mining (AEM) — the details are limited, but the general idea of the company is a match and it does have the identical teased 18 cent annual dividend. I looked at this one earlier, when it was recommended by Robert Hsu for his Asia Edge subscribers.

So more gold stuff for my the fantabulous Gumshoe readers on a lovely weekend. Enjoy, and let us know what you think about any of these investments, or any other grand ideas you’ve got about gold.

full disclosure: I do not own any investment mentioned here and will not trade in any of them for at least three days. I do own a small amount of physical gold and shares in another gold miner, Centamin Egypt.

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Dividends4Life
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March 30, 2008 8:33 am

If you want to invest in gold, you should do it directly. These hybrid investments generally only profitable to those that are selling them. Though the spin is usually good!

Best Wishes,
D4L

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March 30, 2008 9:35 am

Three years ago Agora pumped Seabridge gold. At the time you could get in at under 5 bucks a share. I got in at 4 and out at 16 last spring. It has since climber to 40 and now looks like a bargain again at 24. If you think gold will continue its bull run, SA should make another nice run.

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G IMBURG
March 30, 2008 10:20 am
Gold, a dollar denominated metal, appears to be closely tied to the value of our currency. The dollar on the forex is trading sideways in a range bound channel as the FED tries to prevent futher erosion of larger instituitions as they try to maintain liquidity notwithstanding overwhelming massive writoffs and debt. Essentially,the FED is allowing banks and now hedge funds to borrow money at the FED window to prevent a depression last seen in the 1930s. That was the last time the FED used this expansive program. I think this move only highlights how serious the problem really is.… Read more »
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Bev Fehrenbacher
March 30, 2008 11:59 am

Enjoy your web site.

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Mark
March 30, 2008 12:12 pm

Hey man, thanks for this website, it is really helping me out. I also own shares of Centamin and trust that it will do well over the next few years considering its size.

Myron Martintakeprofits@rogers.com
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Myron Martintakeprofits@rogers.com
March 30, 2008 12:19 pm
THINKER SEZ: Thanks for the fine print sleuthing one the Everbank CD, the copywriters are often very loose with the truth. What particularly bugs me is the liberal use of the word FREE in the teasers, which in my vocabulary means “with no strings attached” ! A REPORT being offered for FREE is not really free if you have to buy a newsletter for $4900. or even $49. for that matter Saying you get a years newsletter service for FREE is also misleading if you have to BUY the first year and then supposedly get the SECOND year for free.… Read more »
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Bob
March 30, 2008 2:20 pm

I just stumbled onto your website recently. Thinks for your valuable comments. This is an excellent site.
I do have a CD at Everbank in Nordic currency that appears to be doing well (around 11%). I was wondering if JINSHAN Gold Mines and Centamin Egypt can be bought on the NYSE, Nasdaq, or other marked listed here in the good ole USA?

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March 30, 2008 2:46 pm

Hi Bob. No, they are both available through pink sheet listings but neither is listed in the US. Both are listed in Canada, and Centamin at least has some dual listings — in Australia and London, I think.

Bud Devlin
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March 30, 2008 6:21 pm
If Visa is as i believe a good inventment then why is this ad necessary ? I was just in New York City to hunt down 3 new GameChangers for you. My meetings began at 6 in the morning, so I stopped at the Wall Street Starbucks (a GameChanger in the midst of turnaround, as you know) and, as I drank my coffee, I checked how people paid for their lattes. Out of the 26 who used a credit card, almost 100% used Visa. At that very moment, across the road, the Visa IPO was storming the stock exchange. Offering… Read more »
Bud Devlin
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March 30, 2008 6:23 pm

why does Georges Yared think we need a subscription if Visa is a good investment ?

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March 31, 2008 1:58 am

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StarCruzer
March 31, 2008 6:00 am
To Myron and all re: ‘Free’ Newsletter subscriptions I’ve been in and out of most of Agora’s and Stansberry’s newsletters. Always pay attention to the length of time each allows for a 100% refund following your evaluation. Staying within those windows and canceling accordingly makes the subscriptions ‘free’……. less time value of money. Most of them, if not all, will grant a prorata refund after the evaluation period. In my experience, both publication houses have honored their refund policies promptly and courteously. I still subscribe to a select few of them. This site, to which I recently was introduced, is… Read more »
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JoeG.
March 31, 2008 9:23 pm

I stumbled into this site while trying to find out about USG-4 reports. This is a great service and worthy of financial support. Thank you for saving me money and keeping me away from the financial hustlers.

Kay McGuiness
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Kay McGuiness
November 11, 2008 1:27 pm

According to the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Georges Yared died on September 7, 2008.

Rich
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Rich
July 25, 2008 2:49 pm

With all due respect Mr Yared, you are off topic and way wrong so far. SBUX went from 40 to 13 and V went from 89 to 66.

Bigg Fredd
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Bigg Fredd
October 21, 2010 9:41 pm

"The 1.5 billion Visas out there will double in quantity. The $2 billion in Visa transactions will double, too. "

I hope Visa is averaging more than $1.33 per card in transactions…

Bigg Fredd
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Bigg Fredd
October 21, 2010 9:36 pm

"A REPORT being offered for FREE is not really free if you have to buy a newsletter for $4900. or even $49. for that matter Saying you get a years newsletter service for FREE is also misleading if you have to BUY the first year and then supposedly get the SECOND year for free. "

One "guarantee" was if you don't make money after using our system for a year, we'll give you another year FREE!

Why would I want to lose money for another year?

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