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Can you really “Collect a ‘Cash Rebate’ on Nearly EVERY Single Purchase Made in 2017?”

What's Oxford Club's $42.4 BILLION “Consumer Rebate Program?”

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, November 28, 2017

Ed note: this article was first published in 2015, but the ad continues to run and readers continue to ask about it, so we’re re-posting this teaser solution for you today.

What follows has not been meaningfully updated or revised since it was originally published on March 14, 2015, though some minor updates have been made to keep up with the changes in the ad (they no longer claim that “April deadline,” for example, since that has long passed and they’ve moved on from talking up 2016 to 2017 for this ‘rebate’ on your taxes).. and the original comments from readers are still appended. The focus of the ad seems to be largely unchanged (the latest version being sent out now is still dated January 2017), though they’re now focusing on the “rebate” for your 2017 spending instead of 2015 or 2016 in previous versions…. perhaps it will keep popping back up, since it seems to be working to spark interest — which is, of course, the prime intent of any newsletter ad.

Are you really going to get a big ol’ check from the government?

Well, maybe. But it’s not so secret as the Oxford Club folks would like you to believe… and you don’t need them (or their $49 subscription) to learn about it.

You probably don’t need me for that, either, free or not, but quite a few readers have been asking this morning so I’ll try to quickly explain what they’re talking about.

The ad comes from George Rayburn at the Oxford Club…. here’s the basic idea from their ad that got everyone excited:

“119 Million Taxpaying Americans Can Now Get a Cash Rebate on Virtually EVERY SINGLE PURCHASE Made in 2017…

Bloomberg estimates it could put as much as $42.4 BILLION back in the pockets of the 119 million eligible taxpaying Americans.

“Others predict it could be even more.

“According to an article on Fox Business News, there is ‘no limit’ to the size of your ‘cash rebate.’

“If you have a huge spending year in 2017 (even on credit), in rare cases you could conceivably claim upward of $100,000.”

And then they make it sound even more fantastic…

“This is not a joke.

“I’m talking about an opportunity to collect a ‘cash rebate’ on virtually anything you pay for this year.

“A new pair of shoes…

“Your vacation hotel bill…

“Lunch with friends…

“A new leather sofa…

“Plane tickets…

“Christmas presents for the kids…

“Even big-ticket items like an engagement ring… a wedding… or a new car, boat or RV…

“The government is willing to send you cold hard cash for all of it.”

So what are they really talking about? Can you actually get a “cash rebate” from the government just for buying stuff?

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freemoney2Well, sort of. What the Oxford Club is talking about here is the fairly recent opportunity to choose to deduct either state and local income taxes or state and local sales taxes when you file your return with the IRS…. but by “fairly recent” I mean, “passed into law a little over ten years ago.”

This isn’t new.

Wait, but they said Obama just signed it in December!

Yes, but what was signed in December (of 2015) was the “permanentization” of that tax break. For the past ten years, this has been an exception that Congress has voted in each year — but it wasn’t part of the “permanent” tax code, so Congress had to renew it each year.

Now, it’s a permanent part of the tax code.

Which doesn’t mean your tax calculation will be any different this year than it was last year or the year before… but it does mean that you should be able to have more confidence that the tax break will remain on the books.

(There’s a summary of this omnibus/extender tax bill here if you’re interested in more detail… it made a few deductions like this permanent, and extended others for a year or more, but there’s nothing big or new in the bill that I’m aware of beyond that.)

What does this “rebate” (sales tax deduction) really mean?

Well, this is mostly a way that Congress has tried to make Federal taxes more fair — those who itemize deductions on their Federal returns have always been able to deduct state and local income taxes and real estate taxes when calculating what we owe to the Feds (at least, for as long as I’ve been paying attention), but for many folks without state or local income taxes there wasn’t a Federal tax deduction to offset what they pay to keep their local government services running.

Every state has bills they have to pay, and, just as with the Federal government, that money overwhelmingly comes from individual taxpayers (except maybe for you, Delaware… and you, Alaska) — but states can mix up the way they collect taxes, whether they want to put a larger burden on sales, or on property, or on income, or some combination of the three. Florida, for example, can make itself attractive to retirees by not taxing income… and make up for a lot of that with a sales tax that is partially paid by their huge numbers of tourists (though they do have above-average property taxes as well).

There are only nine states that don’t have state income taxes, but some of them are big (or politically powerful), like Texas and Florida, and all of them except New Hampshire and Alaska have state sales taxes… so for residents of those states there is now a new (since 2004, at least) tax deduction: They can deduct their sales taxes just like most of the country deducts their state and local income taxes. It’s right there on your form 1040, Schedule A — question 5 that asks what you paid in state and local taxes, and you enter either (a) income taxes or (b) general sales and use taxes, whichever is higher.

And yes, as you can imagine, the recordkeeping obligation could easily be overwhelming if you were expected to keep all your receipts for stuff on which you paid sales taxes… 18 cents at CVS for that box of tissues, $11.83 for your dinner at the restaurant, etc. — but the IRS, thankfully, has made it quite a bit more simple than that. They have a website with a handy-dandy calculator that you can use to provide an estimated and “IRS approved” number for your state and local sales taxes, based on your income level and your zip code. You can even add on to that for a few specified large purchases — primarily vehicles or homes (ie, cars, boats, planes, RVs, new home or substantial addition or renovation if you pay normal sales tax on it… not all places tax homes and construction the same way). Or, of course, you can actually try to figure the real number on your own if you think your spending is well above average… but for that, you’d need to have documentation since you’re not going with the average estimates the IRS calculates for you.

It might even be worth looking into for folks who do pay state and local income taxes, since it’s possible that if your taxable income was relatively low but your purchases were relatively large the sales tax burden could have been larger than the income tax burden for any given year.

I am NOT NOT NOT a tax expert — I hire an accountant to do my taxes, and when my tax situation was simpler I used TurboTax. If you use any sort of assistance, either human or software, to do your taxes, then you’ll very likely have already had these numbers checked for you in past years and it will be part of your calculations for 2015. This is, I assume, a very basic consideration for almost anyone who itemizes their deductions, it’s not a secret or a surprise…. though I suppose some folks might have overlooked it.

My guess (again, NOT an expert) is that the biggest group who might have missed this tax break over the past decade are those who retired to Florida recently and who do their own taxes without any help or computer support and aren’t accustomed to the sales tax deduction… or those who have relatively low taxable income (like some retirees, for example) but who made a large purchase, like a retired couple who lives in Massachusetts and pays state income tax but has relatively low income because their investments didn’t do well and they withdrew the minimum from their retirement accounts. If they use some of their nest egg to buy a $100,000 RV, they could have higher sales taxes than income taxes for that given year and perhaps skipped over that “did you buy anything big this year” question from their preparer at H&R Block because they didn’t think it was important (assumptions: a couple with $55,000 in income would pay about $2,500 in income tax in MA and only about $500 in calculated sales taxes… but the $6,000 sales tax on a $100,000 RV would push them to the sales tax deduction for that year). Both those hypothetical examples are well within the core marketing demographic for the Oxford Club, which, like all investment newsletters, doubtless finds its most fertile hunting ground among the relatively affluent Americans who are retired or near-retirement.

You do have to itemize your deductions to get this tax deduction — just as you do with the existing real estate or income tax deductions. Most Americans with low-to-medium income levels don’t itemize deductions on their taxes (only about 30% of households itemize, on average) — and in some cases might overpay just because they’re unaware of existing breaks that could push some of them over the standard deduction, or simply don’t have the time or acumen to follow TurboTax (or other) instructions for a couple hours to see if there’s something they’re missing. It’s really not until you get to incomes of close to $100K that everyone (or 95%+, at least) takes full advantage of itemizing. The sales tax deduction is probably not likely to be enough to push you over the line from “standard deduction” to “itemizing” all by itself if you’re “average,” though it might help push you over the line if you also do have a mortgage or other substantial deductions (medical costs, theft, property damage by natural disaster, etc.)

I just did the IRS sales tax calculations for myself — and, as expected, the IRS calculates that I pay far more in state income taxes than I do in sales taxes… and I haven’t made any massive purchases to erase the difference (no Ferrari, no RV, etc.), so no surprises: I still deduct my state income taxes. (I live in Massachusetts, state sales tax is about 6.25% and income tax 5.15% — you don’t need to know that for the calculator, the IRS knows your state tax rates).

And you’ll be pleased to know that this is one case where the calculating is pretty easy — just go to the IRS Calculator here and follow the steps. They say it will take five to 20 minutes, but you’d have to read pretty slowly or look up all the numbers from your files to have it take more than five minutes — getting a rough estimate will take you no time at all.

So there you have it — I expect lots of you were already fully aware of this, or blissfully unaware because it will never impact on your lives or your tax obligations, but it is real and it has certainly made a difference for folks in no-income-tax states and a few other folks in non-typical circumstances. And it’s also been the law of the land for about ten years, and has recently been made permanent so you won’t have to be on pins and needles each Winter as you watch to see if Congress extends the break another year.

To reiterate: I am not a tax expert, I don’t even do my own taxes… but this particular one is fairly simple. And no, it is not a “rebate to 119 million Americans”… but for at least the 24 million or so households in “no income tax” states (or the ~8 million of them who itemize deductions, anyway) it could certainly make (and in all cases where they’ve been paying attention since 2004, probably already has made) a difference on their tax returns.

So there’s your quick answer for the day — yes, there are newly permanent tax deductions out there that you can call “cash rebates” if you want to do some exaggerating… and no, it’s probably not anything new for you (but it will only take five minutes to double check).

And that is, of course, not the only “special secret” the Oxford Club folks are peddling — they’ve come up with a few dozen things that seem, on the face of it, to be exaggerated variations on things that any financial planner or retirement advisor would tell you…

401(k) Secret #4: How to Keep the Government From Taking a 20% Cut of Your 401(k)” is presumably the quite common advice, “don’t cash out your 401(k) instead of rolling it over, because it will cost you 20%.” I hope most folks know that, but I know plenty of folks who left jobs when they were young and let their employer send a check to them for their small 401(k) balance instead of rolling it over into an IRA, and they missed out on more retirement savings and did pay a tax penalty.

401(k) Secret #2: How to Add $155,000 to Your Account Total” is indeed a tease for anyone nearing retirement — that’s basically their way of saying “read the fee disclosures on your 401(k), because you’re probably getting ripped off by high fees”… which is particularly important for younger workers or those thinking about leaving their 401(k) with an old employer’s plan instead of rolling it over — but if you’ve been paying into a 401(k) for thirty years, you’re not getting those fees back. Here’s a quick piece about that.

401(k) Secret #1: How to Become a 401(k) Millionaire on a $35,000-per-Year Salary” is just a reminder of the common-sense rule: Save more, and regularly, and you can end up with a lot even if your salary isn’t huge. The story that most folks quote about this was in Smart Money four or five years ago, you can see it here… here’s a quote from that article to let you know what that “secret” is:

“Though many savers may be scarred by the past decade of lousy returns, getting to $1 million over the course of a 40-year career should be a manageable goal — even for some lower-income employees, says Greg Burrows, vice president of Principal Financial. Someone who earns $35,000, saves 12 to 13%, including a company match, gets an annual raise of 3.5%, and annual returns of 7% would save a million dollars.”

And there are lots of other hinted-at “free money” kinds of programs, the kind of stuff they used to hawk in late night infommercials as ways to legally steal from Uncle Sam… like this:

Easy Money Secret #4: Get up to $7,500 to Fix Up Your House if You’re Over 62

“If you’re over 62 and planning any sort of specific upgrades to your house… the government might actually GIVE you up to $7,500 to get it done.”

Which, of course, is kinda true — as long as you’re too poor to repay a loan for that kind of work to modernize or renovate your home. That’s the Section 504 Home Loan (and grant) program described here.

And there’s this one: “Easy Money Secret #1: How to Get up to $401,982 in ‘Unclaimed Money’ From the State Treasury” …

… which is just about the unclaimed funds that are often listed in the newspaper or can be searched through state-controlled websites (and some commercial sites that charge fees, so be careful). The Feds have a website linking to various sources here… but the key, of course, is that it has to be YOUR unclaimed money. The example they give for that $401,982 is a butcher outside of DC who got a surprise life insurance settlement and was featured on Inside Edition, though presumably that’s not normal (his father had passed away a decade ago and had a life insurance policy that was never claimed).

We had an unclaimed funds “windfall” a couple years ago as well, which amounted to about an hour of paperwork and something like $50 from some old account that had been forgotten… so there is money out there, but it has to actually be yours and you have to do a little work to search for it and claim it, and oftentimes the amount of money is relatively small (which, perhaps, is why you or your relatives forgot about it at the time). I don’t know what the odds might be of huge amounts of money, but presumably life insurance payments and old retirement accounts would be among the larger sources of the big “surprise” unclaimed funds — so while you’re at it, check out the Insurance Institute’s best practices for updating your own policy, telling your beneficiaries about it, and telling your insurer where to find those beneficiaries.

I didn’t look into all of the “secrets,” but presumably they’re similar in nature — and heck, if you’ve got a favorite “free money” secret, feel free to share it with a comment below.

I can’t imagine you want to discuss taxes, and I can’t provide any great insight, but our friendly little comment box is available below for that, too, if you’re interested in using it… enjoy!

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Betty
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August 12, 2016 8:03 am

I think it is sad that we have people out in these places willing to help do bad things to hard working people
What is it they get paid to help hurt struggling people. Why not the government just jump start by giving everyone once a year $3500 to start for a rebate, watch how people help give the government a big boost

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Mona Bloom
August 22, 2016 8:32 am

Ii am retired on a pension and social security..I pay over $3000 in federal taxes, no state taxes *()Pennsylvania) and have nothing deducted from said income..because I would not have enough to live on..what can I do?

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August 22, 2016 5:40 pm
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Mona – It’s not clear what you mean when you say that you “have nothing deducted from said income”, unless you mean that you have no federal withholding during the year, and pay all the $3,000 when you file your tax return the following year. If so, I’ll only note that if this is your situation, you COULD be subject to interest charges by the IRS because of underpayment of taxes. You’d be better off getting the Social Security Administration, or you pension company (whichever is easier, but not both) to withhold $250 per month from your check. Yes, you’d have less money during the year, but at tax time, you wouldn’t have to come up with $3,000.

I do hope you’re using the AARP Tax-Aide program to prepare (for free) your taxes – see http://www.aarp.org/money/taxes/aarp_taxaide/ – or otherwise are not paying someone to do your taxes. Based on what you say your situation is, your tax return seems quite simple to prepare, certainly not worth paying (say) $200 to a professional tax preparer.

There really isn’t anything magical or simple that you can do to reduce your federal income tax amount. But if you’re having a difficult time living on your income, AND you own your home, one option is a reverse mortgage. These aren’t for everyone; a good place to start is at https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0192-reverse-mortgages , a government web page that doesn’t try to sell you anything.

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David Burks
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August 23, 2016 12:18 pm

Will that rebate continue for 2016?

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John Broughton
August 26, 2016 9:51 pm
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As the main article states: “… what was signed in December [2015] was the ‘permanentization’ of that tax break. For the past ten years, this has been an exception that Congress has voted in each year — but it wasn’t part of the ‘permanent’ tax code, so Congress had to renew it each year. Now, it’s a permanent part of the tax code.”

So the answer is your question is “Yes, unless Congress decides for some reason to change the tax code again, to eliminate this tax break – and that is very unlikely.”

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phil kime
August 23, 2016 6:29 pm

the Oxford club makes it sound so believable I was going to join, but after reading this article no way now,just another con man.

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Mary H
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August 26, 2016 12:09 pm

Oxford Club indicated that there was a Retiree Rebate of $1,680, which pertained to tax code 408, can you shed any light on that?

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John Broughton
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August 26, 2016 10:40 pm
Reply to  Mary H

Tax code 408 is 26 U.S. Code section 408, Individual retirement accounts (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/408 ). I’m not sure how the $1,680 was calculated (I can’t back into it).

There are actually TWO potential benefits of making an traditional (not Roth) IRA contribution (that is, adding money to a new or existing traditional IRA account). Neither are called a “rebate” (that’s not an IRS term), but the Oxford Club is known for coining new phrases in order to obscure what they’re talking about (to encourage you to buy their newsletters).

Those benefits are:

* The amount contributed will reduce your taxable income (the amount is entered on form 1040 on line 32, as an adjustment – decrease – to income). So, for example, if you’re in the 25% tax bracket, a $4,000 contribution (the maximum is $5,500, unless you’re 50 or older, in which case the limit is $6,500, for a single person) would reduce your taxes by $1,000. [You’d be in the 25% bracket if your adjusted gross income (AGI), on line 37 of form 1040, was between $75,301 and $151,900.]

* A retirement savings contribution credit of up to $1,000 ($2,000 if filing jointly), as described here: https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/retirement-savings-contributions-savers-credit . [A credit is a dollar-for-dollar reduction in the tax you owe.]

However, the retirement savings contribution credit is aimed at low-income households; if your AGI is more than $61,500, then you get no credit at all. Plus there are 10% and 20% rates for the credit (rather than the maximum of 50%) if your AGI, filing jointly, is between $37,000 and $61,500. So, for example, if your AGI in 2016, MFJ, was $60,000, and you contributed $4,000, then you’d only get a credit of 10% – or $400. Moreover, if you have made any IRA withdrawals in the same year as the contribution, or in the two prior years, then the credit is reduced or eliminated, depending on how large the withdrawals were.

And if you’re still reading at this point, then you should note that most retirees have only pensions, Social Security, and/or investments as their sources of income, which they CAN’T USE to make regular IRA contributions. You need **earned income** (a part-time job, for example, or even alimony) to be eligible to make IRA contributions. So this “rebate” isn’t actually available to the large majority of retirees.

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jan
September 1, 2016 4:38 pm

does anyone have a suggestion for a website to look into money for college

michael
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September 2, 2016 12:57 pm

What a great service you’re providing. I am so tired of tying to figure out which of the many “GREAT DEALS” I am “privileged” to receive each week are scams and which are worth additional effort.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, I was about to spend $49 for this before seeing your article.

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September 2, 2016 8:01 pm
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J. Flannery
September 3, 2016 11:07 am

Great explanation of what smelled like a dead fish to me! Thanks

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Abe Matar
September 4, 2016 9:22 pm

Its amazing what the Federal Trade Commission lets some companies and Corporations get away with!

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Alex Hamilton
September 5, 2016 1:32 am

Govt ‘s job is to shafts you and make themselves right , they aren’t giving anything to you for free, they don’t have your updated info. So they play a rure to get you to come in and depending on the charges , hold you until you agree to a settle mentioned of some kind !

Linda King
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September 5, 2016 12:32 pm

How do I go about collecting this rebate?

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September 5, 2016 6:54 pm
Reply to  Linda King

It seems you file out your tax forms with accurate data. Specifically taxes paid, income tax, luxury tax, property tax, sales tax, and such. An accountant, H R Block employee, or Turbo Tax system is able to get you your “rebate” of whatever percentage is deemed correct for your location, income, and taxes paid, providing you ITEMIZE your expenses. Little is what most qualify for without major purchases jacking up the amount we pay in taxes each year. In general many take the standard deduction as it is larger than the amount determined after hours of figuring out the answers on our itemized tax forms.

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September 17, 2016 10:11 am
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File a 1040 tax return and claim the general sales tax refund

Timothy
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September 19, 2016 1:31 pm
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Tell me also. Why all the red tape to get the rebate. If it is true then give it to all of us Americans!

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Kiki
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September 27, 2016 1:40 pm

Well why does the guy says specifically and adamantly, this is a rebate not a refund

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September 30, 2016 2:24 am
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Because he wants you to buy his $49 dollar report and subscribe to get more of these “little known secrets”.

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October 2, 2016 1:58 pm

JFOR OF WHAT I HAVE READ, IS A SALES TAX RETURN OF GOOD AND SERVICES; AND EVEN IF YOU DO NOT PRESENT RECEIPTS, PEOPLE IS GOING TO GET A MINIMUM AMOUNT, BUT THEY DO NOT SAY HOW MUCH; MAYBE SOMEBODY KNOWS WHAT IS THE AMOUNT.oin the discussion

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October 2, 2016 1:55 pm
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I THINK IS GOING TO BE ASSING TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SHOW RECEIPTS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SOMEBODY KNOW HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO BE?Join the discussion

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November 26, 2016 10:46 am
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You need to read the WHOLE article, very carefully. Go here to to figure it out: https://apps.irs.gov/app/stdc/stdc.html?_page=11&_cancel

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October 22, 2016 2:21 pm
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Only those who pay tax are eligible. So people who are on welfare and don’t pay taxes are not eligible.

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September 19, 2016 2:37 pm
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No expert here, but if you itemize your itemization needs to exceed the standard deduction you can take based on your marital/head of household status. Its not a rebate – you deduct the amount from 1040 Schedule A or the standard deduction from your Adjusted Gross Income before calculating the Federal Taxes you should have paid.

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October 2, 2016 1:52 pm
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I DO NOT FILE INCOMETAX, I DO NOT HAVE RECEIPS, HOW CAN REQUEST THIS REBATE AND HOW MUCH IT IS GOING TO BE?Join the discussion

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October 7, 2016 9:51 pm
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I don’t file a tax return because of low income. Can I still benefit?

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John Broughton
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October 8, 2016 12:40 am
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No. What is being discussed is a tax REFUND. Your low income means that you don’t PAY any federal income tax. Since you don’t pay any tax, it’s impossible for you to get a refund.

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October 16, 2016 6:33 pm
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Terri, you should ALWAYS file a tax return. Low income does NOT exempt you from filing. Period. If you ever get to the place where you do have income, and you file, the system will then kick out the info that you did NOT FILE for such and such a period, and then you WILL have problems!! Just do it.

And you can’t benefit from what is being discussed here until you file a return. End of matter.

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John Broughton
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October 16, 2016 10:39 pm
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Sorry, TR, you’re wrong. The IRS specifically says “You must file a federal income tax return if your income is above a certain level …” That means you DON’T have to file if your income is BELOW that level.

https://www.irs.gov/uac/do-i-have-to-file-a-tax-return

And no, someone can’t benefit from what is being discussed here just by filing. To benefit, a person needs to (a) owe taxes [which they won’t if they have no filing requirement], and (b) have enough itemized deductions to make it worth preparing a Schedule A.

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October 18, 2016 9:13 am
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Does gas tax count towards the itemized amount? I am in Florida.

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October 22, 2016 2:24 pm
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no

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October 22, 2016 2:23 pm
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If you don’t file income tax, you’re not eligible.

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Lovina York
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December 12, 2016 12:45 pm
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How much does this cost.

CrimsonRollTide
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December 14, 2016 11:17 pm
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Lovina York….Are you and about 75% of the people on this page illiterate? READ THE ARTICLE !!! Like the rest of us had to do to answer our questions. Why is everyone so lazy anymore???

dennis
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September 5, 2016 7:01 pm

Thanks for your time on the research and TRUTH about the Ox people, You saved me time and money. they were beleaveable but thanks to you post I learned to read on before signing up for anything. I thank You. Your a good man and your right if you have something worth sharing, just do it. postit and do not charge.

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September 8, 2016 5:43 pm
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Dennis,
I agree that Travis saves us time and money, and the very best money you can spend anywhere in my opinion, is to become an IRREGULAR member here.
You can go broke buying Newsletters, and I have bought many in the past, but have only bought one in the past 20 years since I signed up for the Oxford Club. They are far and away the most helpful to me in making my financial decisions. I am an Oxford Club Member, and can truthfully say they have helped me grow my portfolio and well worth the price.
But nothing takes the place of doing your own due diligence.
Respectfully, Hugo

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November 17, 2016 4:24 pm
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Dennis, you are right. He is a good man for sharing for free but if you spend your whole day studying and analyzing stocks, why should you not charge for your craft? I am sure you had a craft at one point and charged for it. If he is right for not charging, you must have been wrong to make a living. I am only using your logic.

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September 5, 2016 9:20 pm

what are those 4 magic words?

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September 7, 2016 11:57 pm
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that is what I was wondering!! 🙂

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September 11, 2016 5:37 pm
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If you check out the Huffington Post online. The Magic words are for an expired time limit to collect debt that has been sold to another debt collector. The magic words are “SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE”. The new company usually has no evidence as to how the debt was accrued, ie: where, how much, when, etc….

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michael Dee
September 17, 2016 1:33 pm
Reply to  Linda

a sucker born everyday?

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crimsonrolltide
December 15, 2016 1:34 pm
Reply to  Linda

“you are a sucker”

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Pamela jackson
September 6, 2016 12:32 pm

Why is it that no one knew about consumers rebate

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tessie3958
October 22, 2016 2:29 pm
Reply to  Pamela jackson

It was in the local news where I live. Just because it didn’t make the national news on Christmas weekend doesn’t mean no one knew. It was in effect for 2015 as well. You had to file by 4/18/2016. it was included in your refund. So, it’s not a great deal of money unless you have a lot of larger purchases!

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Mike Williams
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September 6, 2016 2:54 pm

Oxford Club…sending emails about a refunds of taxes of purchase for 2015 and 2016…answer 7 questions get min….have a car purchased 2015, but am paying the taxes full year 2016. Where is this IRS website – to sign up and begin the process to secure min or larger funds back? Thanks Mike

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September 11, 2016 5:27 pm

You will find the information your looking for in the irs.gov web site. In the search box put, Consumer Rebate Program. The next page will come up with a Top Recommendation. Click on the Consumer Rebate Program, this brings you to another page that provides Schedules, Publications, Forms and the very last one is the Sales Tax Deductions Calculator.

Jewell S. Fields
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Jewell S. Fields
September 6, 2016 9:01 pm

With regard to the “bill Obama just signed it in December”, I’d like to read the actual bill for myself. Can you tell me how to identify it?

John Broughton
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John Broughton
September 7, 2016 12:29 am

Sure, the text of the bill is here: http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20151214/121515.250_xml.pdf . News stories about the bill can be found by doing a Google search on this: permanent tax breaks December 2015

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Bernadette
September 11, 2016 6:42 am
Reply to  John Broughton

It’s 233 pages long, this will take awhile to read and digest. Has anyone read about the Consumer Rebate Program in it? Florida does not have a State Tax, so where does that leave us?

John Broughton
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John Broughton
September 11, 2016 9:13 pm
Reply to  Bernadette

There is no “Consumer Rebate Program” in the document (you can do an internal search on that phrase; you don’t need to actually READ the document to confirm its non-existence).

Florida DOES have sales taxes; it just doesn’t have a state income tax. The “Consumer Rebate Program” was about the sales tax, not using state income taxes paid.

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September 13, 2016 9:31 am
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Oh, okay – Thanks for that clarification John. I did glom from several articles that i read that you need to use the form (now i forget what they called it) that itemizes your deductions on your income tax….??? But those are deductions not Sales Tax purchases… But, you said “there is no Consumer Rebate Program? WTF are they trying to do to us then, just sell their newsletter publications? I was looking into this for my mother actually who spends money like water, and has had many over 100,000 purchases in 2015 and 2016, but she has had the same CPA for over 30 years and he is pretty savvy but she has had some pretty hefty tax implications over the years, maybe he isn’t as swift and everyone thinks he is… ??? She purchased a house and paid Cash (not her primary) I dont think there is Sales Tax on houses in Florida, is there? I’m so confused!

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John Broughton
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September 13, 2016 11:53 am

No, there are no sales taxes on the sale of homes, anywhere in the United States.

Yes, in states with an income tax, it’s generally true (for those that do itemize – use Schedule A rather than taking the standard deduction) that taxpayers pay more in state income taxes than they do in sales taxes (or, if you will, more than the sales tax figure generated by the IRS calculator). The exception, as Travis has pointed out, is when there are “big ticket” purchases – a vehicle, boat, or RV, for example.

And it’s worth pointing out, again, that most taxpayers do NOT itemize – use Schedule A, and thus the sales tax discussion is irrelevant. Why don’t they itemize? Because they don’t have enough deductions (typically, they don’t have a mortgage) to get the total on Schedule A to be larger than the standard deduction – so they take the standard deduction ($6,300 if filing single, $12,600 if filing married, in 2015) instead.

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CrimsonRollTide
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December 14, 2016 11:27 pm

Jewell S. Fields….Just GOOGLE Bill signed by Obama in December 2015 Oxford Club’s $42.4 BILLION “Consumer Rebate Program”
Just use common sense and make sure you go to US.GOV

Vincent Seifert
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September 7, 2016 1:00 pm

I called and said I just wanted book no.1 23 way’s to get rebate’s, the explicitly said I will sent this book free of charge and shipping the lady I talked to said I had to buy the subscription, I told her that was false advertising, an I am going to report it.

Scott
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Scott
September 8, 2016 3:22 pm

The plural of way and rebate are ways and rebates, not way’s and rebate’s. Sheeesh.

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Dennis C
September 15, 2016 4:02 am
Reply to  Scott

Scott,

Keep in mind the phrase “if you can’t say anything nice don’t say anything at all”.

Clinton J Harrold
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October 11, 2016 12:44 pm
Reply to  Scott

Oh Look everybody!, it’s an unemployed english major!

Sandra
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Sandra
September 7, 2016 2:58 pm

What are the 4 magic words” regarding credit cards?

DLH
September 7, 2016 4:43 pm
Reply to  Sandra

How about “Can I use yours?”

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SoGiAm
September 7, 2016 5:24 pm
Reply to  Sandra

“Cut it up quick”

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Mister
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Mister
September 8, 2016 2:43 pm
Reply to  Sandra

The magic words are “what’s in your wallet?”

Debbie
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Debbie
September 11, 2016 5:40 pm
Reply to  Sandra

Show me the evidence

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Buckethead
September 17, 2016 8:04 pm
Reply to  Sandra

“Cut It Up, Now!”

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James
September 7, 2016 11:03 pm

The seniors, the disabled & the Vets will not get a raise to our miserable checks in 2017 for the 4th year in a row yet the prices on everything keep going up yet we cannot claim this rebate. The politicians left & right have dipped into Soc Sec since Vietnam to finance police actions around the world, only Ron Paul had a well thought plan to return the trillions the politicians have stolen from us. This is not welfare, we PAID into Soc Sec. To make it even worse, the Wet Foot/Dry Foot Program passed by pinko Kennedy & re-approved by the flag burner, weed smoker Bill Clinton continues to shower the Cubans with every benefit under the sun the minute the evade our Coast Guard or cross the borders & touch U.S. soil, no questions asked, starting with SSI checks, Welfare, Medicare, etc. Two weeks ago the Latino channels showed 50 Cubans floating on a raft trying to reach Miami, the Coast Guard stopped them while the Cubans in Miami DEMANDED they be let in. This has been going on since Kennedy’s time but the media doesn’t report it. Foreigners & citizens over 65 get SSI checks, Medicare, etc. even if they never contributed to the system. Now the hundreds of thousands of African & other “refugees” are bleeding the system as well. I hope Mr. Trump who knows how to handle trillions at the int’l level fixes this mess.

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Scott
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Scott
September 8, 2016 3:23 pm
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That horrible “pinko” FDR is the guy you can thank for not having to eat cat food in your miserable declining years.

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Jim Foote
September 13, 2016 10:45 pm
Reply to  Scott

Even though we don’t enough we do pay sales tax on every dollar we spend. We could file a 1040 and ask for our sales tax rebate.

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John Broughton
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John Broughton
September 14, 2016 1:20 pm
Reply to  Jim Foote

Assuming that you were trying to say “we don’t have enough income to need to file a tax return”, and that you were asking a question, the answer is “No, if you don’t owe any taxes, then filing a 1040 and putting a sales tax amount on Schedule A isn’t going to get you a refund from the IRS.” That’s not the way the calculations on page 2 of the Form 1040 work. Once you’re at zero taxes owed, the only thing that matters is whether you have refundable CREDITS, such as the Earned Income Credit. The sales tax DEDUCTION isn’t a credit.

If you were trying to say that “we don’t have enough deductions to itemize”, then the answer is “No, you can’t claim the standard deduction AND also claim PARTS of Schedule A (where the sales tax deduction is listed). It’s an either/or decision (standard or itemized).

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Jollyfert
November 14, 2016 8:42 am
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http://blog.ssa.gov/an-increase-in-social-security-benefits-in-2017/

James, I found this article, maybe informitive regarding your 9-7-16 comment.

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crimsonrolltide
December 15, 2016 1:38 pm
Reply to  James

James….Once Trump is in office, I am sure he will do something to make sure that does NOT stand. He LOVES all Americans and esp. ALL Veterans!!! And btw, I KNOW this group of people….”seniors, the disabled & the Vets” ALL deserve it!!! And he will also make CERTAIN that NO MORE illegals get ANY benefits!! They should be in jail, not taking our American’s benefits away!

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