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“How to ‘Buy Gold’ at $165 an Ounce”

What's the "Gold Supercharger" Teased by Oxford Resource Explorer?

The gold bull market is really back, at least when it comes to newsletter promotions. Probably the quickest off the starting line was Porter Stansberry with his “Metropolitan Club” plan and introduction of the Stansberry Gold Investor service in late March that drove a lot of investor attention to the gold mining sector (not many publishers, if any, can access larger mailing lists than Stansberry)… but many of the major publishers have gotten on board and are pushing gold ideas these days.

The general sentiment for gold, which in shorthand is that negative interest rates and global unease will send gold prices rocketing substantially higher over the next year or so, is clearly being reflected in the mining stocks. Gold itself has risen this year (up 20% YTD), but gold miners have been off to the races (big miners, on average, are up 80%) — and though that’s a recurring pattern we’ve seen for years, where gold miners are leveraged plays on gold, it’s been much more dramatic in the last six months than we’ve seen in quite a long time.

I’ve got some more blatheration for you about the general performance of gold stocks and the connection to gold prices and other “safe” investments, but I’ll save that for the end… for now, let’s just see what another newsletter guy is getting excited about in the gold market…

This time it’s Sean Brodrick, who has been around newsletterdom for many years with a couple different publishers — he’s trying to sell subscriptions to Oxford Resource Explorer ($79), which hasn’t used gold in its promotions for a while that I’ve noticed (recent pitches for that letter have focused on LNG and on Sasol’s GTL “gasoline without oil” plans).

And, as is pretty typical with pitches about natural resources companies, he teases gold miners as a way to buy gold cheap — in this case, “How to “Buy Gold” at $165 an Ounce” … which sounds, especially to folks who are new to resource investing, like a no-brainer. The intro letter from Andrew Snyder that links us to Sean’s ad says:

“So how do you play this situation? Sure, you could buy gold…

“But our own Oxford Club gold expert, Sean Brodrick, has uncovered a backdoor way to play it.

“Sean’s just off the plane from visiting two miners in Mexico

“And he’s found a way to “buy gold” right now at $165 an ounce.

“That’s a 91% discount to gold’s current price… and a 98% discount to $9,053-per-ounce gold.”

Golly, a 98% discount! Who wouldn’t want that? The ad itself then gets more specific, this is how Sean Brodrick gets our attention at the very top:

“Resource Expert Sean Brodrick Predicts Gold to Soar 47% by Year’s End…

“His Odd Recommendation Today: ‘Don’t Buy Gold!’

“Rather, he’s just uncovered a ‘sister’ play with potential 800% gains on its $2 shares over time…

“But you must get in NOW.”

He says that the opportunity to “grab 800% gains” is on the table now, and he thinks the gains will come within 24 months, but that “on September 20 the opportunity will be gone.”

That’s the date of the September meeting of the Federal Reserve Open Market Committee, which meets about every six weeks to make decisions about the Fed Funds Rate (among other things). Everyone in the market freaks out about Fed meetings, as they’re doing today (I’m typing this in the morning, we’re expecting Janet Yellen’s press conference at 2pm as she reports on the Fed meeting held yesterday and today), and there is constant speculation about when or how the Fed might raise rates.

Before a weak report or two and the fear over the “Brexit” vote, the assumption was that they would raise rates several times this year, including in June, but sentiment shifts quickly and expectations are now low for interest rate hikes… but yes, the next two meetings are on July 26-27 and September 20-21, and Yellen’s press conferences are only scheduled for every other meeting, so the next “big” meeting is September 20.

The big catalyst for higher gold prices that Brodrick cites is the same one everyone else is also citing: Negative interest rates. Governments charging you to lend money to them is an abomination in the eyes of pretty much any logical capitalist, and any move to a negative interest rate policy in the US as an attempt to further stimulate the economy would put even more pressure on retirees and the pension funds and insurance companies on whom those retirees depend, and probably continue to crush banks, who would really like to see some gradual rate increases. But it would probably be good for gold. Money has to sit somewhere when it’s not being actively used or “risked”, and if the “safe” investments like Euro, Yen or US$ sovereign bonds have negative returns and banks don’t pay any interest, gold looks better and better as an alternative.

Some folks go further and talk about negative interest rates causing a real societal collapse, and destroying currencies and forcing us to return to some sort of “gold standard” that could drive gold to $10,000 an ounce… Brodrick doesn’t get that specific about his predictions (though his target of $9,053 is close to the number that “gold standard” folks often use), he just implies that he thinks the September Fed meeting will be the beginning of the end as the Fed eases more or goes “negative” and drives more people into gold…. in his words, “On that day I expect the Fed to publicly announce negative interest rates are just around the corner.”

Maybe Yellen’s in the process of raising rates right now, as I type, and will surprise us all with a higher Fed Funds rate at 2pm today and make this point moot… which could easily drive gold back down sharply. But probably the Fed will continue to be “dovish,” keep rates the same this time, and will keep their forecast of only raising the rate once or twice this year an interest rate expectations in the market will continue to be “lower for longer,” and probably gold will be up slightly and miners will, on average, be up a little bit by the end of the day as the risk of a rate hike disappears for at least another month.

So if we assume that Brodrick has a reasonable argument, what are the investments he likes as a “sister” play on Gold?

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Here’s some more from the ad:

“Gold miner stocks aren’t just cheap right now. They’re stupid cheap. Many of them are turnaround stories, just waiting to head higher….

“I use a five-point screening system to explain why I like (or hate) mining companies and their stocks ‘in a nutshell’ after an on-site investigation.

“My main filters include Management, Land, Cash, Opportunity and Plan.”

That’s not terribly different from other mining-focused folks — many of them stress management first, and it’s also clear that projects in “good” countries or near existing mines are favored, as are companies who either have enough money or an obviously clear way to raise money to build their mine. The “opportunity” stuff is just about relative valuation, whether the company is at a good price relative to their “management, land, cash” etc.

Then the specific clues roll in…

“Gold Supercharger Play #1: Turn $5,000 Into $20,000

“Let me show you one of these miners… as an example of how this leverage will work for us in the coming days and weeks….

“Management is as good as it gets. The CEO was the founder of what is now a gold company with a $15 billion market cap.

“He recently saw an even bigger opportunity – and took over this little-known miner that could soon come to dominate the industry too.

“It is already on good land with working mines that generated $15.6 million in cash flow in 2015. It ended the year with $31 million in cash….

“It is in the process of getting permits to mine right next door to Barrick Gold’s largest gold mine.

“It is looking at a total of 4.2 million ounces of gold worth $5.3 billion.

“And the market cap? Just $650 million.”

So who’s that? This is McEwen Mining (MUX), which is run by Goldcorp founder Rob McEwen… and which is clearly one of the “favorite” junior mining stocks that the market has focused on. The market cap was around $650 million about ten days ago, but now it’s over $900 million… that’s how crazy it has gotten of late. They have operating mines in Argentina and Mexico, two mines in development in the US, and one exploration property in Argentina.

They do have about 4.2 million ounces of gold resources (including reserves), according to their website, though it’s always important to remember that resources are not the same as reserves. Resources (measured, indicated or inferred) are what the miner is pretty sure is in the ground after doing enough drilling to understand the potential, reserves (proven and probable) are what the miner and an outside expert have determined can be produced in some feasible economic scenario.

And about half of those resources are in their two development projects in Nevada, both of which are fairly close to Barrick Gold’s huge Goldstrike mine in the Carlin Trend. Gold Bar is the one that’s likely to be permitted and ready to start construction next year, Tonkin is the one that’s bigger and closer to Goldstrike of the two, but also was abandoned by previous owners because it’s got what they call “complex metallurgy”… whatever that means.

McEwen is just becoming profitable, and production is expected to plateau for the next couple years before growth resumes when the Gold Bar mine starts producing, which they expect in 2018. If you want to get a bit more of a picture of the company, they have a very enthusiastic investor presentation here, from their annual shareholder meeting a couple weeks ago, that includes lots of colorful charts about anticipating gold’s rise, and plenty of exclamation marks.

They are expected to produce 99,000 ounces of gold this year, or 144,000 ounces of “gold equivalent” if you include the 3+ million ounces of silver expected. At “all in sustaining costs” of about $900 an ounce, that leaves room for some nice profit as long as gold remains in the $1,300 neighborhood — that means more than $50 million in gross profit potential, and probably other operating costs will be half of that, so perhaps they could be showing $25 million in profit or so by next year. That’s not exceptional for a company with a market cap near a billion dollars now, so I suspect investors are looking either to higher gold prices or to the production increases that are expected in a few years (or beyond).

Beyond that, I don’t know a lot about McEwen, but they do have a very good balance sheet and they are profitable (they even pay a tiny dividend of one cent), and they do have a strong controlling shareholder who is personally very motivated to increase the value (McEwen owns 25% of the stock, and they have not been diluting him or other shareholders by selling more shares). The Gold Bar mine “go ahead” decision is expected in January of next year, they say, and they do have enough capital on hand to fund that construction — it’s not a huge mine, capital costs are estimated at $60 million, and annual production is forecast to be 65,000 ounces of gold, but it should be profitable. They don’t talk about the Tonkin project in their presentation, so presumably that won’t be actively developed for quite some time.

Oh, and no, it’s not really “buying gold for $165 an ounce” — that’s just a turn of phrase that divides the potential resources by the market cap (though with the market cap rising, that number would now be $215 an ounce for McEwen). Gold that’s still buried in the ground is always worth far less than gold coins or bars, of course, and $200 an ounce for resources that are still in the measured and inferred category is not particularly cheap. If it costs $935 in “all in sustaining costs” to produce an ounce, and the company has “equity value” of about $200 an ounce, then you can also use these kinds of assessments to calculate that folks who buy the company now are counting on gold being well over $1,100 an ounce to justify the current valuation of the company (the $200 per ounce that you’re paying to buy your equity stake in the company, plus the $935 per ounce it will cost the company to dig up that gold and turn it into gold bars for the market).

That’s a flawed and simplistic look at the financial merit, to be sure, and it doesn’t count their meaningful silver or copper resources, but if you run the numbers you’re likely to find a lot of other early-stage producing miners or explorers that are trading for a lot less per ounce of “resources” in the ground. That also doesn’t account for the different production costs at different mines, or different levels or risk or taxation or the rate of expected production of those resources or reserves, it’s just a “napkin sketch” that pundits like to use when describing why a company’s assets are potentially more valuable than its current market capitalization.

Interesting? Your call. It’s certainly a favorite of many investors, along with smaller producers or near-producers like Pretium (PVG) and Novagold (NG), but that’s all I know about McEwen.

And we’ve also got two other “supercharger plays” to look into for you from this ad, but I’ll get to those tomorrow. Let me leave you with the general blatheration that was coming out of my keyboard, stream of consciousness-style, as I thought about gold and Brodrick’s ad this morning…

During the second half of last year, when gold was down about 10%, the big gold miners (represented by the GDX ETF) dropped about 25%… and the smaller (but still fairly large and operational) “Junior” gold miners (represented by the GDXJ) were doing about the same.

But since the market bottomed out in mid-January, gold has risen pretty sharply, up 17% … and the miners have taken that lead and rocketed forward, GDX is up 94% and GDXJ 120%, and lots of the “real” juniors — the explorers and small cap names that don’t make the indices — are up far more dramatically than that, some by 500% or more. In five months.

That’s why people love investing in the natural resources space, because small changes in sentiment or commodity prices can make a huge difference for producers and create huge amounts of value… and send some of the little guys really soaring.

Of course, the reverse happens as well… and mining tends to be a tough business, so if you go back 10 years you’ll see that gold is up by 120%, and the big miners (GDX) are down 23%. Gold itself may be a “buy and hold” asset that you want to use to provide some stability to a portfolio, but gold miners don’t tend to be worthy of that sentiment.

Even the royalty and streaming companies, which try to avoid being directly tied to some of the risks of mining (cost overruns, permitting, labor disputes, etc.) have not always done dramatically better than the metal itself — we’re still talking about a short time period (many of the royalty companies haven’t been public for ten years), and Royal Gold (RGLD), Franco-Nevada (FNV) and their smaller competitors have done much better than the average big miner over long periods of time, but sometimes their performance is not necessarily dramatically better than the move in the gold price (FNV has generally been the big winner over most time periods — including during this bull run, when it’s up 130% to RGLD’s 50% and the 94% turned in by the GDX index fund).

But still, those are huge numbers no matter how you slice it — and they’re more dramatic than the last time we saw a big spike in gold and in gold mining stocks, which was back in 2012. That time it was the “taper tantrum” inspired by Fed Chair Ben Bernanke’s comments about cutting off some of the easy money from the Fed’s QE programs, which drove up interest rate expectations a bit… but it was also one of the heated times of panic about “Grexit” in Europe, and gold had just fallen 20% from the highs a few months earlier — lots of crazy sentiment then. Gold went up about 15% from May 15 to October 2 in 2012, and the mining stocks jumped up 36% (that’s the GDX… And yes, the royalty guys outperformed then as well, RGLD and FNV were both up close to 60%).

So this is a big deal, caused by fears of negative interest rates (which are great for gold if you think of it as a currency) — and probably stoked both by the fearmongering of an election year and by the general unease in global politics (Brexit, Syria, ISIS, oil, etc.).

That doesn’t mean gold will go straight up this year, and we’ve already seen a huge move that dwarfs the leverage that miners had to gold the last time gold had a strong few months… but lots of folks are certainly expecting higher gold prices — and if the Fed fails to raise rates, that probably will continue to help. One impediment to gold as a “place to hide,” beyond the fact that the gold market is pretty small by institutional standards, is that it has carrying costs — it effectively comes with a negative interest rate, because you have to store it. For the past five years the other “hiding place” for global money has been US Treasuries, and falling interest rates have made it far more profitable than gold — the 10 year note ETF (ILTB) has a total return of almost 50% over five years, while Gold itself has fallen 18% and the GDX has a total return of -50%.

I am very sympathetic with the assertion that gold should go higher in this environment, but I’ve certainly been wrong about that a few times in recent years. There could be really, really sharp moves up and down in both large and small miners as this shakes out over the next year or two, and I still like having some exposure to gold miners personally, but I’m very mindful of not levering too much of my portfolio to gold. It’s when you’re profoundly certain of a particular macroeconomic outcome that you’re likely to make the biggest mistakes.

Right now, beyond my physical gold holdings that I try to gradually add to from time to time (and which I really consider to be “savings,” not investments), I personally have exposure to a few genuinely tiny juniors, and I’ve taken some of those profits off the table particularly for time-sensitive holdings (warrants and options) as gold has soared in recent months — but I’m keeping a good allocation to my favorite gold miner fund, the Sprott Gold Miners ETF (SGDM) and to LEAP options on the GDX index, and continue to have a substantial position in Sandstorm Gold (SAND) as well as exposure through both equity and options or warrants to a few smaller players that tend to be pundit favorites, like Brazil Resources and First Mining Finance…. but I also think it’s pretty reasonable to avoid getting too deep in the weeds with specific small miners and focus just on the big ETFs or royalty players — those aren’t going to go up 500% in six months, like Brazil Resources has this year, but they are likely to provide pretty substantial leverage to gold and they don’t carry the same “fall 50% overnight on bad news” risk as the smallest junior stocks. My equity portfolio is roughly 10% in gold stocks now, after taking some profits in the last six weeks, and physical gold makes up about 30% of my savings.

I’ve also been kicking myself for not adding a little exposure to silver miners during the early part of this year, since those tend to have extra leverage (silver tends to move with leverage to the gold price, and silver miners are levered to silver), but we’ll chatter about that another day … perhaps tomorrow, as Brodrick seems to be looking at silver with one of his other ideas (perhaps that’s what he means with that “sister” play term). More to come… and if you’ve got gold thoughts to share, or thoughts about McEwen in particular, let us know with a comment below.

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goldstockbull
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June 15, 2016 4:33 pm

Goldcorp founder John McEwen… should be Rob McEwen.

Thanks for the great work Travis!

Cheers,
Jason Hamlin
goldstockbull.com

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jon
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jon
June 15, 2016 4:43 pm

Just for the record its Rob McEwen not John……. And you also gain some substantial exposure to silver with McEwen mining,, Another excellent article . Plenty of upside here with McEwen and Marin Katusa likes it .

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Willey
June 15, 2016 4:46 pm

A very informative article. Thanks.

Griffin
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June 15, 2016 4:52 pm

$MUX long, McEwen makes all the right from what little I know. I hope I can double my position on the next pull back. The 1% dividend is looking down right awesome.

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Sam
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Sam
June 15, 2016 5:11 pm
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“I also hope I can double my position on the next pull back”.
I have compared MUX with many other Gold Miners stocks for growth and noticed that MUX is the best.

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cjaugust
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cjaugust
June 15, 2016 4:54 pm

McEwen is holding an “ACE” in the hole In “LEXVF” (.19) which is held mostly
by him. Very active lately–It once sold for more than a $1.00. Will he merge it into MUX??
VERY INTERESTING

carlosrivers
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August 6, 2016 4:54 pm
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Looks like Lexum is a sleeper. I might adding some more to my portfolio

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arch1
June 15, 2016 5:13 pm

$MUX may be a good investment. Right now I still think the most money is being made by sellers of newsletters pushing buying (or selling) gold. Example;
https://orders.dentresearch.com/BNB495LONG/WBNBS102/index.htm?
No endorsement, just showing there are different opinions. Take all these hypes with a grain of salt and do not bet the ranch you will be rich rich rich! real soon. I hold some gold stock but at present not $MUX. That may change.

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Normally Dubious
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June 15, 2016 9:10 pm
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GDXJ Almost doubled my money on a $30 call early this month, while only the most recent GDX call made more than about 10%. There seems to be some benefit of playing GLD andGDX and GDXJ over and over again. Oops, I said that out loud – was I supposed to get you to pay $1950 for my newsletter instead?

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June 15, 2016 5:27 pm

I hear lots of advertisements for companies selling gold and silver on the radio but have read an equal number of negative comments on the internet about most of them. Is there a particular seller of actual gold and/or silver coins that you feel has the best prices and integrity?

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Gordon Thorne
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June 16, 2016 7:53 pm

I second what Travis said about APMEX being a good and reliable source for buying. I started buying metals, mostly silver coins and bullion, about 6 months ago, and have purchased from Silver.com, JMBullion.com, Provident Metals, Modern Coin Mart, and Royal Canadian Mint. I’ve consistently found APMEX to be very competitive, several times less expensive than the others, and with prompt delivery.

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oldguy
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June 18, 2016 11:28 am
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First Majestic sales their silver on the web site. I’m waiting for a pullback.
The US vs Candian gives more leverage.

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waseem77
June 20, 2016 7:16 pm
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I am new, and am not sure if websites can be posted. I bought on ebay, then saw apmex/jmbullion but the cheapest prices I have seen are on goldsilver.com. Check all sources out there first. Ebay, Amazon, apmex, jmbullion, goldsilver. compare prices for same item. i.e 1oz royal canadian gold bar, or 10 oz royal canadian silver bar, and buy from cheapest.

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jamespaul108
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June 21, 2016 9:34 pm
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Some say that there are Chinese sources of counterfeit gold coins that contain tungsten on the inside because it has about the weight per unit volume as gold. These same sources say to purchase from a reputable dealer who stands behind their product.

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waseem77
July 6, 2016 3:07 pm
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apmex is very well known. You can also take your large purchase to a local dealer to have it checked. Right now they have sound based? tests that can test the inside core also.

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frank
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June 15, 2016 7:12 pm

I am not interested in gold, but I would like to hear from you guys about the black box that Michael robinson is touting, is it orbc, swir, or a different one, thank you guys please help.

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June 15, 2016 9:04 pm
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over the next few days probably everyone who writes for money Map press will be writing you about that black box cell phone tower. Just like they did with “The hooke”

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hendrixnuzzles
June 15, 2016 9:23 pm

$MUX…no position. It’s nice mine and I like McEwen, but do not see how it is superior to PVG. PVG has larger reserves, lower AISC, and will produce 400,000 oz per year.

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h dhirani
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June 15, 2016 11:00 pm
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Stellar performers, MUX $3.45 has gained 200% to market cap of almost a $1 Billion while PVG $9.30 gained 100% to market cap of $1.65 Billion during 2016. Perhaps someone did point out the potential of these stocks before they took off, but I did not pay attention and now find myself loath to take a position at these lofty levels.

Instead, I took a position in a stock presently flying under the radar. Northern Vertex Mining Corp NEE.V on Canadian Venture exchange. Reasons – Directors, their family and friends own 38.5% of the shares; 435,000 oz gold resource has been established, All-In Sustaining Cost $624/oz gold; Feasibility Study showing payback of 2.4 years at $1,250/oz gold. Mine production concept proven by pilot project that already produced 5,000 oz of gold on site. Capable management aiming at fast progress to production in mining friendly Arizona. Stock price is CAN $0.37 at market cap of CAN $35 Million. Check it out at http://www.northernvertex.com/s/Presentations.asp

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hendrixnuzzles
June 16, 2016 7:06 am
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Thanks, dhirani for your contribution. Keep us posted on Northern Vertex.
It is really a different type of speculation, a few of them have been introduced to the thread recently…a small operator, not an exploration play, but sort of like a Mom-and-Pop gold mine. I have no experience with this type of investment.

My guess is that this type of company can do well, but it is extremely specific and depends a great deal on the character of the owners and operators. It strikes me like making an investment in a gas station in a good location, as opposed to investing in XOM or DVN. It can do very well but is very, very small.

Northern Vertex has some good attributes. I think you are right in that it is under the radar but could have high leverage, the costs seem under control.
The negatives for me are the relatively small size of reserves, and the forecasted mine life, and the grade of the deposit (under 1 gram per ton). I would also like to know a lot more about the individuals involved before putting my own money into it.

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hendrixnuzzles
June 16, 2016 7:16 am
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Hi dhirani. Another thought on this type of investment.
In a good bull market, one of the factors on the demand side will be the gold funds and ETFs. If your investments are in companies that are too small to be in these indexes, they will be structurally disadvantaged in terms of exposure to huge amounts of capital demand
that will support the stock prices of the larger players. On the other hand, a tiny company like Northern Vertex has high insider ownership and it is more likely to provide a windfall if the management decides to make a distribution or dividend. They are in it to make a profit.

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Griffin
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June 16, 2016 12:57 am

HN, I don’t know that there is an answer to your questions. As there are intangibles in Biotech there are also intangibles in miners. Several articles from Seeking Alpha have tried to say Rob McEwen is not that great. Public relations, Investors relation, and ‘Pump and Dump.’, whats the difference, they all affect share price. The difference is how well does the business communicate their business, what the goals are, what they are doing, how well are they doing. how often are they in the news, trade articles, mention in the stock trading forums. Public relations is an inclusive term but that is what some business have, they bought a PR degree. You get all the required publications. There are also Firms that specialize in Business Relations or investors relations. I a stock that the rehired their PR Firm and jumped 10-20%. An officer of the business maybe adept at IR. I prefer to buy miners in the western hemisphere, eh. I’ve noticed that there seems to be some consolidation and acquisitions in the miners sector. The perceived benefit of these acquisitions is probably some ratio between expenditure and market cap. I think this ratio favors the smaller market cap. There must be more but it is late enough for now.

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Myron Martin
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January 11, 2017 11:38 pm
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Seeking Alpha certainly has the right to their opinion like anyone else but have they mentioned his track record in building Goldcorp? Furthermore have they mentioned that he owns 25% of his company personally and takes only a $1. token salary so he only makes money consistent with all shareholder, does any other CEO do that? Compare that stance with the favourite of institutions and hedge funds major miner Barrick presumably because they are the worlds leading gold miner who paid an executive they wanted a $11M signing bonus. Now guess which management team I would feel most comfortable with?

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Griffin
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January 12, 2017 12:11 am
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I surely agree with about One analyst(?) at seeking Alpha and the articles he wrote on McEwen Mining were an attempt to short. I haven’t seen anything since about the first of last year from. There is one analyst at SA that I’ve been following Matt Bohlsen his articles don’t have the details your columns do. Bohlsens’ though present a good overview of market for the article subject. I’ve posted a few of the articles in this column and also in;
http://www.stockgumshoe.com/2016/07/microblog-storage-of-electricity-batteries-big-image/
$MUX appears to be starting another run. I sold a few shares last month to buy a Biotech now I’m hoping to replace them soon.

God to see you here, hope your health is improving.

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cabaoke
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cabaoke
June 16, 2016 2:40 am

Damn I love this neighborhood. The epitome of open interchange of information without prejudice (with possible exception of H dhirani . To be honest you kinda come off as a promoter. Hope I’m wrong. Just saying) Thank you all!!!

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h dhirani
h dhirani
June 17, 2016 11:41 pm
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Thank you cabaoke for commenting on me without prejudice!
The details I shared for the benefit of the esteemed denizens of this neighborhood are public knowledge found on the website of the company. The purpose of posting was to save them time while providing a flavor of the investment that they can then pursue if they are interested. The other motive was to see if the sharp cookies here would find a flaw in my understanding of the merits of the company. If that is promoting in your book, then so be it!

arch1
June 17, 2016 11:53 pm
Reply to  h dhirani

If you please everyone all of the time something is amiss.
post as you please, if some are unhappy so be it. I see nothing wrong in your posting.

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waseem77
June 20, 2016 7:20 pm
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The line “Directors, their family and friends own 38.5% of the shares” really had me wondering.

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K zvetkova
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K zvetkova
June 16, 2016 4:20 am

Thank you, Travis, but in this discussion about buying gold before a possible Brexit, why is platinum collapsing compare to gold to its historic low? Should not we be buying platinum?

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Rusty Brown in Canada
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Rusty Brown in Canada
June 20, 2016 10:19 am

Aha! I read a comment earlier about electric cars being bad news for platinum and couldn’t understand why. It’s the catalytic converter, of course!
Mystery solved!

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Alex
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Alex
June 16, 2016 4:45 am

Where can I buy the gold for this price ? My englisch is not enoug to understand the whole article

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Griffin
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June 16, 2016 2:46 pm
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I haven’t personally bought gold yet (other than stocks) so I can’t recommend any particular source. I don’t know that I would buy gold at this time silver would be a better buy. Check silverprice.org they have a list of places to buy gold and silver.

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hendrixnuzzles
June 16, 2016 6:09 am

$MUX…Please don’t misunderstand me, I do like MUX. What I meant was that I do not see that the mine is superior to PVG, in terms of the available metrics pertaining to their operation, such as size of reserves, reserve grades, AISC, and other measurable statistics. I made no such statement about the relative value of MUX
stock, the recent price performance, or other things such as their ability to promote themselves. In terms of stock price performance, MUX be do well and exceed PVG on account of its cap size or some other reason; but I am not myself persuaded of this
sufficiently to invest in it.

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hendrixnuzzles
June 16, 2016 7:10 am
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…and I do like McEwen a lot. He is very tuned into shareholder value and the company’s perception in financial markets. I am not taking issue with anyone who believes in the comapny.

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Griffin
Griffin
June 16, 2016 11:05 am
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I didn’t take your comment as a negative on $MUX. What I was trying to convey was that there are a lot things that will determine how we perceive a business. We may not be consciously aware of all the things that make up our perception of the business. I have a higher tolerance for risk than most so I’ve invested in some stocks that you wouldn’t. A couple months ago a newsletter said that a stock was going to go up by 5 times current SP. The current SP was about a dime, so I bought in without any DD. I don’t do that often and when I do it hoping Irish Luck pulls it out. In this case the Irish prevailed and I’ve doubled my investment.

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9sec93lx
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9sec93lx
June 17, 2016 2:44 pm

I am currently long MUX (bought @ 2.40 on 6/3/16) and am happy with my 1.00 increase in share price in 2 weeks. How long I’ll hold onto my shares remains to be seen. Thanks for the info Travis.

SoGiAm
June 17, 2016 11:54 pm

Those interested in ongoing precious metals investments, due diligence and discussions may be interested in this thread: http://www.stockgumshoe.com/2016/06/microblog-gold-bull-investments-for-the-next-leg-upjune-2016/comment-page-1/#comment-4847016 Best2All – Ben

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dealerdeb1
December 10, 2016 9:37 am

Porter Stansbury is now touting a Gold Venture Fund anyone know what that one is? It is a Venture capital vehicle I’m sure but you have to pay $99 to find out unless of course Travis can tell us for our already paid membership fee

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