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Rob L.
Rob L.
March 30, 2009 6:39 pm

Stansberry & Associates: Phase One Investor

Remember this teaser?

“On March 30, FDA results we’ve waited 2 years to receive could make you $195,600, overnight!”

Well, March 30 has arrived! The results are in! And indeed you COULD have made $195,600…if you had SHORTED Arena Pharmaceuticals instead of BUYING it, the way Phase One pounded the table to have you do! Rather than soar over $10 a share, which could “change your life” and “allow you to literally quit work, forever!”…the stock plunged from $4.50 to a low of $2.85 today, before settling in with “only” a loss of 28%, at $3.23.

I’m guessing people will take the next pronouncements from Phase One Investor with an entire shaker of salt. Of course, since the Stansberry folks write such good copy, they might make it interesting enough to stoke some people’s curiosity. Not mine, though.

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Michael Murphy, CFA
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April 8, 2009 2:18 pm

Hey, Rob L., Phase 1 never recommended buying ARNA! They said DON’T buy the stock, buy a call spread. They sold the spread after the announcement for a 40% loss and then recommended selling the July $2.50 put for enough money to get the loss back.

But, overall, Phase 1 does not seem to “get” stock valuation, and tends to gloss over the negatives, so a lot of their recommendations hit their 25% stop loss and disappear.

Plus, it is really expensive.

Disclosure: My newsletter, New World Investor, competes in part with Phase 1. Also, after the sharp drop I recently recommended buying ARNA.

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PAUL
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PAUL
April 29, 2009 11:18 am

Never subscrided to this letter. Subscride to S & A report
so I get all the hype S & A dishes out for you to buy this expensive letter. So my comment will be limited to their
“hawking” of ARNA. Such hype—-2 years of research—$200,000 spent for research—invest 5thou or 10 thou and retire.
It was easy to figure out the name of this stock even though I don’t buy the stock letter (thank GOD). ARNA was in the news, on TV. I wonder what PHASE 1 spent their $200,000 on.
Any way stock doesn’t pass phase 1 and tanks. So I asked them
what happened, to which I received no answer. Asked for their ideas on holding the stock for the test results due in the fall—-no answer not a peep. I have serious doubts about a service as expensive as this one that doesn’t address blown
accessments of stocks.

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Jim in Edmonds, WA
Jim in Edmonds, WA
February 6, 2010 5:34 pm

Over the past year or so, I have subscribed to a couple of Stansberry & Associates “Investment Letters”. They are interesting reading, I keep them in my magazine rack in the “john”. Although, the majority of the email I seem to get from them, is trying to entice me into buying just one more of their financial letters/reports.

This was the case this afternoon. They tried to “hook” me with their special information regarding the “$59.00 Computer” etc., which of course sounded interesting. When I found out how much they wanted for their subscription, I had to laugh. Even their discounted offer seemed ridiculous.

After reading about their special offer to subscribe to “Phase 1 Investor”, I decided to google Stansberry & Associates, to see if there was any adverse press, regarding their company on the internet. In the process, I came across an answer to a question, by at someone from “Stockgumshoe.com”. The answer sounded honest and to the point. I decided to click on your website. I liked what I saw and signed up for your free email addition.

After completing the signing up process, I came back to your home page, an “Lo and behold”, I discover your discussion about Stansberry & Associates, Phase 1 Investor and the information about the “$59.00 Computer” company they were referring to. Then to find who the company is, that S&A was dangling out there like some golden carrot, that was just icing on the cake!

Now I’m sorry, but to me that qualifies as a “completed circle” with regards to information gathering, along with adding some unexpected enjoyment to my Saturday afternoon.

Thanks a lot, Stockgumshoe.com

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Peter Strickler
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Peter Strickler
February 14, 2010 1:20 pm

I have been following them for years and give them some credit that they do have some good ideas now and then like buying FCX when it was 20 bucks, but most smart investors can do that without paying for an expensive newsletter. I did subscribe to their stansberry research, but found that when I got the newsletter it was too late anyway to act. I am also getting all their hype e-mails and with just a little reasearch you can figure out yourself what they are pitching. Recently aside from the $ 59 computer they ran this hype that they flew 12000 miles to discover this great energy company. Buyer beware. It is Inter Oil Corp (IOC)and their balance sheet is harder to understand that the federal goverments budget. Aside from that the stock has already run up and Stansberry is probably shorting it at this point.

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Willem Erasmus
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Willem Erasmus
February 15, 2010 3:31 am

I gave S&A a high rating because I think they deserve it.
They take all the legwork out of stock picking. I have had consistent success with S&A. I am an S&A “Alliance” member, and for $159 per year, for life, I get all their publications.
They do state in the newsletters the ‘buy up to’ prices as well as stop losses. Anyone not following this should only blame themselves. I have found S&A forecasts extremely accurate, front running the crowd. They have some excellent trade ideas. I think S&A’s track record speaks for itself.
If you wanna be in with the crowd, buy and do what everyone else is reading (and then buying), then get yourself the business newspaper.
BTW, I also subscribe to newsletters from other countries (the Fleet Street Letter)

I advise people to first subscribe to the free S&A Digest (sent daily) and/or http://www.dailywealth.com, read it for several months and make up your mind.
Offcourse they will send emails pitching their products.

Don’t be put of by the negative comments. One of the secrets of investing is to keep your wealth and build. Fund managers that say they’ve only lost 5% compared to FTSE’s 10% is rubbish… You got poorer ! It should be a 5%/10% gain while FTSE lost 10% ! Now that is more like S&A’s track record. Recording gains when the market is falling.

The S&A crew regularly remind their readers:
Do not put on more than you can afford to loose, Never invest in something you don’t understand, Do not put more than 5% of your net worth in one stock, keep stop losses, keep to ‘buy up to’ prices in mind – wait for price to move into the buy up to prices, do not get emotional about a stock and do your own due dilligence and lastly, markets can stay irrational for longer than you can stay solvent.

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arthur
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arthur
February 17, 2010 8:29 am

THINK YOU HAVE THE BEST RESEARCH
AVAILABLE.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

john arguimbau
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john arguimbau
December 9, 2010 2:20 pm

Best site for anyone even thinking of buying any micro-cap based on URGENT Junk Mail !

Mum
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Mum
December 11, 2010 12:46 pm

I’ve been a.follower of Curzio’s podcast for years and honestly P1 is not his cup of tea. I’ ve been a subscriber of most of his penny newsletters and they worked pretty well, specially if you didn’ t follow his 25% trailing stops which worked miserably and recently realigned up to 50%.

I tried the P1 $5.000 bargain for 3 months and then unsubscribe for a 10% breakup fee ( fair enough for me) because it ain’t worth the money. Their picks are volatile, tiny & recently china focused because of a 2week trip Curzio made. If you time prudently your entries and cherrypick you can earn very decent returns but clearly not worth $5k/year when you can get Curzio’s penny newsletter for $99/ year.

Additionally, they pick the closing price of the prior day to their recomendation so you can never achieve their initial price and do not have neither a track record nor a benchmark to compare returns.
His podcast is very educational and rely on his good network of friends/ex-colleagues.

PS Price of the P1 newletter is being promoted this week @$3k (40% off) so I guess others subscribers
are also abandoning the ship.

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Capt Brian
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Capt Brian
December 26, 2010 2:29 pm

I have not fallen prey to one of their huge pricey letters, but have sent them a little money for being ‘on board’. I have much experience, and know what Penny Stocks are, and why they are pennies per share. BUT,with that said, I keep my ear to the ground, and on occaision am able to follow or even invest with one of these carnival touts. Ususlly, it is a loser. I find, the longer the presentation, and the more you pay, the lower the results. I found this site, [Gumshoe] by taking a few of his hints, [S & A], and plugged those into my browser, and got gumshoes column here. Glad I did. I just paid $49 for one of S & A’s deals which is supposed to return big bux, and I was not told anything I did not know. These P & D (pump and dump) specialists are great at the prelims, and very scarce on the thousands of %’s profits seen carefully worded so as to not run afoul of the law.

I like a newsletter that just gets to the point, and the more they continue to talk, the more I doubt the advice or value. I am in the middle of S & A advice, so ask me later.
Happy Grins & good luck.

Capt. Brian
The Lost Navigator

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10 yr subscriber
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10 yr subscriber
February 1, 2011 10:48 pm

OK I finally had to do this . I go crazy every time i see a plug from this group HYPING Phaze 1(it changes names and head analysts every few yrs)and these ridiculous returns. I can tell you i have 10 yrs of personal investing in all of there products ,and the hype from this 5000 p yr(no i never paid that just would cxl after i got the report)I would kill myself if i ever did . 15 recomendations and i have to tell you 1 home run and even they got out early IDBE was bought out and they did recomend at single digits,but that is the ONLY one in 10 yrs like that there are a dozen biotech nitemares, and then the name product and type of stock (when bio was a die-o they changed it to phaze 1 and FAZED OUT BIO then changed manager and now did again WHAT A JOKE and it bothers me b/c these guys have a good product BUT this was a PR and marketing scam that just hyped making u think u were a select ground floor subscriber . I guess u were cuz after the hype the rest only went down…………..to the basement

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bowmacwood
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bowmacwood
February 9, 2011 12:58 am

I too have listened to Curzio for years from when he was with Cramer. I have followed his Stocks under 10 and PennyStock Specialist. These services are fine for the price, they picks are fun and volatile but at least they are liquid.

I just laugh at “phase 1” and it’s huge fees for micro caps. It is all manipulated and I am sure S&A are in some way either paid or pre invested, just like Dines, but Dines at least admits it. When Dines puts out an alert, there is almost zero chance that an investor will “get in” at the buy up to price. I am sure glad I found gumshoe! I am seeing great ideas and will surely pay for the service!

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C Jacoby
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C Jacoby
March 7, 2011 4:06 pm

The letter is focused on identifying real wealth building opportunities. But, in my opinion, the short term reality of the worth of their advice is generally overstated; as was the case with this investment. While I generally believe there may be significant minerals to be found underwater in these areas, and the technology to receover same is available, there are significant hurdles to overcome (some of which you identified in your remarks). From my investigation, I did believe that the company had obtained clear rights to explore the area. If and when they identified an outstanding location to mine, your suggestion that more legal battles would ensue is probably correct. As I was only a short time subscriber, Phase One did return my money as advertised.

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Chuck Richards
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Chuck Richards
May 15, 2011 9:34 am

I had a Phase 1 subscription 3 years ago. Phase 1 gives reasonably decent stock picks – BUT, and this goes to my real issue – there are village idiots who subscribe to this and many other investment advisories who haven’t a clue about LIMIT orders – and my problem with thinly traded picks or small cap companies, such as the ones I saw during my subscription with Phase 1, was that as soon as the picks became known to the subscribers the price went through the roof – I suspect due to Market orders. So after a year I let the subscription die – even though sometimes I found waiting 2-3 weeks after the initial call one might be able to pick up the stick for the “buy up to” price.

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KFr
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May 26, 2011 1:21 pm

Very good value and education. Have been an Alliance member for a year, and highly recommend the Alliance and Phase 1 vs any other offerings.

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Dave
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April 20, 2012 1:23 am

Just want to know if anyone has used this service with any success.
Thanks, Dave

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