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D. R. Barton
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Money Map Press
Description
Fast-paced technical trading service.
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I’m surprised nobody has reviewed Stealth Profits Trader being touted through Money Map Press, by D. R. Barton. The service costs $2000.00 annually. Has anyone used it or heard about it or is it out of the realm for anyone in this group?
I don’t trust any further investing advertisement that can make you lose substantial amount of Manet
I payed Bernie schiffer option trading 2500$ membership
Every trade was a losing trade
I called then to return my membership money and they declined
The best that you can trust is High Velocity Windfall
Keith Fitz-Gerald
Join the discussion Agreed. High Velocity Windfall is pretty legit. Not all winners of course, but usually able to get out without losing money or at least breakeven.
Thanks for telling about your experience . I too subscribes to financial letter, but I have received two recommendations, and since then the publisher have stopped sending any more
information. I too have requested refund and there is no reply The fee was less then 1o0.
So I want to know how much of Keith Fitz-Gerald is hype and how much is real to the point you made a huge profit? Please let me know John jvs3@comcast.net
I can’t recall how I got on Keith Fitz-Geralds’s recipient list, but the inbox is crammed with their promotions, where he goes on with mind-numbing inconsequential detail about how you will make tons of money as others have. The one promotion that seems to the most cross-promoted from many sources promising you’ll “only buy stocks that go up”, goes on and on describing with minute detail the actual mechanics which is simply the Aroon Indicator which is free on most trade platforms and chart sites like Stockcharts.com where using the promo details for COP, you would buy on Sep. 19 or 20, 2017 after the green “up” line crosses over the red “down” line http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=COP&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p50513893864 . You can set up a scan in a trade platform to list symbols that have these buy signals on any given day, or pay Fitz thousands to have them send the signals to you – of course you get their “money-back guarantee” though. Aroon basically looks back over a time period and when the period high or low is exceeded, a buy or sell is indicated. You can get an academic explanation at http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?st=aroon&id=chart_school:technical_indicators:aroon
I joined Stealth Profit Trader – here I sit four months later, and after following their recommendations to a “T”, I am down in excess of $18,000.00. The customer service is terrible, cold, and could care less about client losses. You will also get inundated with a barrage of great, “once in a lifetime” offers to renew this service for life at the special price of $1,000.00. I believe this is a scam and would steer clear of everything and anything this company is touting.
Jim – sorry to hear of your awful experience with Barton and his ‘magic hook pattern’ nonsense. With all these so-called trading guru’s who come up with some unique pattern or indicator, which is nothing more than changes in a MACD or RSI that they put some ‘magical’ spin on, it’s really just smoke/mirrors. Look at it this way – if it was so easy to make 100’s of percent return on your investment, who on earth would reveal how they’re doing it? They could become multi-millionaires in just a few years starting with a modest bankroll and cash in big time, and move to Tahiti, instead of dealing with dozens of unhappy customers who will hound them all the time with questions, refund requests, etc. And I have heard through some personal channels, that almost all of these ‘gurus’ selling these expensive subscriptions don’t even take any of these trades. They know that doing so is very risky and they won’t risk 1 penny on them. Instead they can create a nice 7-8 million figure income just selling a few hundred of these subscriptions every year, never giving back or risking 1 dime. My recomnendation – get a book on Technical Analysis written by a legimate author (check on Amazon), learn it backwards/forwards and do some paper trading before risking any real money. Yes – you can make money trading in the stock market but: 1) it takes work and dedication, 2) it takes several years to get proficient at it, 3) you must accept taking losses, but hopefully you can keep these much lower than your wins. If you can find a local community college in your area that has an investment or trading course, take it. And pass on all these internet gurus like Barton, Hughes, Sarnoff, etc. They all are making big incomes selling their ‘magic’ systems which usually turn out to be money pits because everyone is going to jump on the recommendations, pump up the stock, then it will drop again resulting in most of the ‘sheep’ getting sheared. Stay away, and invest your hard earned money in education on how to trade. You’ll be much better off in the long run.
Ditto.
What an awful experience. 5 stars for hype and psychological manipulation and ZERO stars for truth, integrity and communication. “If we don’t have 28 triple profit winners in a year, we will refund your money”, is double speak, when those wins don’t offset the enormous number of losses. Yes, they have these wins, but it’s about Net Gain considering all the investments recommended.
And, by the way, they include in these wins, recommendations that cannot be accomplished as they state. On three occasions, when I was suspicious enough to check, the trade we were supposed to make was impossible because the stock or option had skyrocketed the day before to beyond the entry recommended, BUT, each time these were counted as “triple digit”e.g., On 11/07, Alert to buy at any price below .35 on an option, the price within 5 minutes of getting the alert is .90, which gives you a WHAT THE HELL so I research the history and find that the previous day (before the morning alert) the option has skyrocket and I would have had to buy in at 2PM the previous day to buy below .35.
There are so many other dishonest things – I will be back to enumerate them over the coming days, weeks and months.
The SEC needs to shut these criminals down.
I have tried several of Money Map Press offers but never this one. All three of the ones I tried didn’t work but Money Map Press has refunded with no hassle. On that basis I would recommend trying this one but I can’t afford it. I suspect you will need to have five or six of these trades open to wait for the run-up to complete.
I’m just chiming in with brusceeski’s requests for comments (Nov 12)…I also just watched the Stealth Profits Trader video and would LOVE to know if anyone has climbed aboard and what the real results have been. It’s expensive if it’s 2000, but who knows, it might actually be one that works most of the time? cheers, Chris
I just watched the video also and was wondering did you get any answers to your questions. I had the same thoughts as you.
It is an elaborate scam.
Don’t do it. Barton is about 30% since November. I’ve lost 4,000.00
It’s never gonna work. Why do they need that membership fee? Sounds similar to Ponzi- Bernie… Forget it
Has anyone out there actually joined this service and have a real opinion- I’d love to know.
I joined and got a refund with no problem. At least the guarantee is legit.
I joined & made a profit! however, I became ill and had to cancel. they gave my my refund! do you know any better? when I get well I would like to know.
but they are making profits for the few weeks that I was in with them?
all up to you now?
We all know there are companies, websites, and people with credentials that offer an easy ride. I have came across this one recently and another one about a month ago. I have not participated, but believe me, I am wanting to try it. My gut just tells me no, along with what I have found that both have in common. Both services, I will not name the other because this blog/review is specific to Stealth Profits Trader, provided a lengthy video. The videos both highlight accomplishments and background history, then “all the money that they have made with a particular strategy.” They give specific examples. Finally a half hour or longer later they tell you how their strategy works. Then they hit you with a price, both were above $2000, not saying who was more, but Stealth had more services that are supposed to be provided. So, me being skeptical, I look for reviews. Both have no reviews anywhere on the internet that are not sponsored by “Money Morning.” I did a google search and 90% of the results show that the website is suspicious for malware. The next thing they shared in common is that both only had so many slots available for a sure opportunity of making huge profits. The other offer is still emailing me that I can “still sign up.” It sounds great. Its easy because they do all the leg work. For me, who is not experienced but like numbers and trends and appreciate current events, it is very appealing to have someone to lean on for guidance. But I am not convinced. That being said, I still have a notion to try it out. If I do, I will revisit this review.
If the author, Barton, could consistently make high profit stock selections, he would not need to sell newsletters.
The problem is that they choose not to tell you about the losers. Save your money.
I to say the video . did you find out if this system works
Thanks
Do not brother. The charts are several years old. For instance, when did you last time see TSLA trade between 40 and 80? Save the money and do not fall for this false advertisement. Besides there is no guarantee this co will be in business next year.
Also skeptical of things that seem too good to be true. Instead of a steep fee, if it was so good a system, they would take a fee/ percentage of profits. How many hooks went nowhere? Probably many more than the few they feature which are all in the past. Anyone can tell you who won yesterday’s basketball or hockey games and produce a theory.
Please take me off your email list. Thank you, Loren L
This guy Barton claims to be a regular guest on FBN which would seem to give him some credibility. Just saw the video and he claims to only have 500 slots available so you have to get in now.
My question is how many does he already have and will have if he fills the 500 new slots. This kind of thing is very problematic when it comes to trading. Too many people doing the same trade at the same time not only can temporarily move the market but if you are not one of the first ones in, you may find that you missed the move or that it may reverse on you after the initial pop.
Mmmmhhh….. Say he sells his Last of the Last ‘Holy grail’ 500 course copies @
$ 2000 a pop ……. My Maths tells me that is a cool $ 1 million in less than a week of work !!! …. I would not mind that kind of earnings for one system and less than 1 weeks work !
I tell you what… give me $ 1 million and I will sell you my system which will earn you better returns
Beware, run as fast as you can !
your math is very bad….its $100,000 not 1 million
Michael…you better not join if you can’t add zeros…my I count 6 zero’s with a 1 in front = $1,000,000. My calculator agrees! LOL
I have joined a few of these type programs. Non-really work out immediately…then when you start to question BAM 100% profit. They have 30-day $BG, I usually do a historical trade search immediatly and figure out what to expect in the next 30-day…PAPER TRADE and then decide if it is worth the $ or not…just my 2-cents. I’m a professional futures day trader & like to diversify…also like a bit more risk…my thoughts are if I can use it trade options…I like the risk! 🙂
WRONG! He’s right. 2000 x 500 IS 1,000,000.00
Sorry Mike….it IS $1,000,000
500×2000 is 1 MILLION NOT $100,000 go back to 7th Grade and learn arithmetic.
Do it again 2000 x 500= 1,000,000
Don’t disturb adults, Michael
Yeah right. Only 500 slots available. The date of the post from Remo was August 11, 2016. I just watched the “sales pitch” video tonight after being emailed this incredible offer on January 10, 2017. Again, only 500 slots available. They must mean 500 per day, right?
First, let me be clear that I have never “purchased” his course. However, I am very knowledgeable about his course and the techniques described. I learned them 5 years ago from my neighbor when I lived in Chicago and worked for Sears. He worked as a floor trader in the Chicago pits using similar techniques. I’m not trying to promote his course, but the pattern he describes is legit. I have been doing something very similar with just a few tweeks for 5 years now, and am more profitable than I ever have been. I have used profits to put my oldest son through college and am starting with the second one now. I also manage my father’s retirement using the same trade philosophy / techniques. Again, I’m not promoting him, I just dislike seeing people trash others with no real time experience or inside perspective.
Hi JROD, are you able to teach me the technique. My email account is andythai77@hotmail.com.
Good idea,Joe;If Rod agrees to teach you please contact me as |I am also keen on learning his method.
Could.
You.forward me a copy as well. aaaqueenvicalbertsharon@yahoo.com. Thanks!
James Evans
Dear Rod,
Good to hear that there is someone with real experience. Can you provide me with a URL that links to relevant books, websites where this method is described so that I can do a more intense study/ You can also send me an email.
Regards,
Ronald
Hi JRod, similarly interested in any information you could provide on the strategy…. Hoping you can assist
Best wishes
Clive
crf66@hotmail.co.uk
hi JROD, I’m also interested in the technique. My email nick_dlee@yahoo.com
Hi JRod,
Would love to learn more of your investment strategies pertaining to your comments above. You can reach me at:
herc130pilot@gmail.com
Thanks,
Caesar
Hi,Rod;
A few years ago I used to receive Dr.Barton’s signals on trading ETF’s.I recall his buy/sell alerts were unreliable and
without fairly tight stops,could easily have resulted in financial
catastrophe.I cancelled before my 90 days were up and I received a full refund.If Dr.Barton could print money by simply trading his system,why bother trying to find hundreds on new customers and run a business operation with all the attendant headaches?
Hi JRod, just watched D.R Barton’s video. Found it very interesting. If you can teach I can learn. Thanks.
s1032campo@gmail.com
Hi JRod,
Can you please teach me the techinque? My email is mcsraj800@gmail.com
Thanks,
Raj
JRod, Much interested. Your system is something I would like to learn more about. Thanks. mack1 (one)stop@yahoo.com
Hi JRod,
Would love to learn more of your investment strategies pertaining to your comments above. You can reach me at:
Hi JRod. Could you possibly show me your techniques please? Very intrigued!! My email is jusbates@hotmail.co.uk
Many thanks
Justin
Hi JRod, I would love to learn your technique.i have never traded before but am willing to learn. looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi JRod, I have never traded before but am willing to learn from someone like you. could you please contact me on: henryt@telinet.com.pg
I would love to learn to.
Mr. JRod – It looks like you have a list of followers that are interested in you technique, so I am adding my name to the list. I would be grateful for any assistance with your described technique. You will be rewarded. Thanks Joe
I listened to the promotional about Stealth Trading, but I am more interested in learning more about your trading system. Please refer me to your website. Thankyou. [Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2017]
Sorry to be bothering you, however if you decide to provide info on the system you have been using I would appreciate being added to the list of grateful recepients
JRod — I would also appreciate learning about your techniques…..
setogo01@yahoo.com Thanks for the thoughtful insight…
Has J Rod ever replied back?
Hi JRod,
I would very much like to learn your techniques that you learned from your neighbor. Every now and then we are fortunate enough to come in contact with someone that can change our lifes. I hope you are one of those incredible people that care enough to share your knowledge as you were at one time….thank you and you can reach me at ….ec_6029@comcast.net
Hi Rod, Well it looks like you are in business if you wish to be. Include me on your list also if you are willing to share the information. I certainly could use it also.
irvinesully@yahoo.com
Take care.
Hi JRod I would love for you to teach me the technique you learn from your neighbor you seem to be a honest person willing to help others. I would appreciate it if you would share some of the strategies you’ve used to become profitable. My email account is
Luriap5@gmail.com
Hi J Rod, many people would like to learn this technique. One person was asking : “Can you provide me with a URL that links to relevant books, websites where this method is described so that I can do a more intense study.” Please could you provide the same information for ALL who would like learn?
Thank you. pjb
You are a decent, civilized person…keep up that attitude and you will most likely not miss Heaven.
yes, I’d really appreciate if you could share your method. my email is koshym1@gmail.com. would share a portion of the profit. thanks
Has J rod ever responded to you??
Hi Jrod ,if you could help me learn I would appreciate,fighting cancer and in chemotherapy, pls help domo
Hi , JRod like others I would like to learn your system . I can pay for training.
Hello Rod, If you don’t mind sharing your trading technique, I’d be really appreciated. Or if you’re up for it, we can talk about the cost for your time to teach me these technique… looking forward to hear from you
JRod, Do you share your technique at all. If so, I would like to know more.
JRod, if you are still answering the call, I’d love any info you could provide on these techniques. My email is shinobicow@yahoo.com . let me know if there is anything i can do for you. thank you!
I think JROD is JR Barton Jr
Hi JRod
Just lost $1,000 following Money Map gurus trading tips in addition to vsrious subscription fees.
I wiil appreciate your help to share with me your gift kmoeledge in trade, I will pay or sharey winnings,
Thanks JRod
Rosar Rosar
rosar.rosar@yahoo.com
Holy smokes! One User (JRod) mentions how he’s been successful using a similar technique and you all want to desperately learn from him. You’re all moths flying towards JRod’s trading flame. No wonder why these Gurus manage to attract so many subscribers. He just wrote one paragraph and you’re all willingly to dish out money for his techniques. Perhaps the real money is becoming an educator and selling the ‘hope’ of making riches. Why don’t you folks just do what Buffet does and buy good value stocks and focus on the long-run.
Good Afternoon,
Does anyone know the phone number for the conference call at 12:30 pm
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Spot on, Juleo. It again shows those ‘guru’s’ are making money on the back of a bunch of idiots. Just promise them money heaven, whithout putting in the effort to check the specifics of a trading system and to work on your psychology and money management.
I have been there and nowadays I skip those ad’s after a few seconds. They all share the same predictable pattern of big promises and hidden lies.
hi jRod, very interested in learning more about your technique, have an elderly mother living with me you needs medical attention that I can not possible afford right now.
i would love to get her the medical help she so much deserves.
i will be ever so great full.i hope this is not a scam i am realy counting on this my email is jraiello12@yahoo.com. thank you and i hope to hear from you soon.
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Would love to learn your methods as well. Whitc88@yahoo.com. Any help would be much appreciated. I have 5 kids to put through college.
JRod
This I see Ian an old post.
May I Ask for your feedback?
God Bless
Thanks, JRod, I’m encouraged with my Barton subscription since you gave him a high5 for using the techniques you’ve tested and tried!
Hey JRod, I’m a bit late to this thread it appears but very interested in your techniques. Would appreciate lessons.
Forgot to mention Im at barrycrotty@yahoo.com
Hi JRod, interested in any information you could provide on the strategy…. Hoping you can assist, my email is aquinonesp@sbcglobal.net
I am finding that most of these NEW techniques and strats. are just takeoffs on old systems. There just is not a way to predict exactly when a stock will move. There is no substitute for understanding the company, good tech charts and good fundamentals. These things accompanied by the market conditions and news can assist you with making risk reward decisions. I prefer free stock screeners such as Finviz to research what I might be interetsted in doing.
I have played with a number of technical analysis systems over the years,, each one providing examples of successful trades.using their particular system. I have paid thousands of dollars over the years resulting in only modest success. Therefore I am very dubious about D.R. Barton’s Stealth system. That said, I do recognize that Barton may have identified a useful signal. However, since I am a technical trader, I believe that my trading account may be better served by looking for Barton’s Hooke Pattern on my own and incorporating that with what I have already learned over the years. I do like like the fact that I could not turn up any reports of fraud attributed to Mr. Barton. I’ll keep an open mind and re-visit his site in a few months to see if he is still fraud-free and is still offering subscriptions.
Donald T–Stealth is selling now for $2500 “lifetime subscription” with a $249 “maintenance fee” right now. Sounds like quite a bargain, considering how fast you’re supposed to be able to rack up those profits! Wow. I couldn’t say whether Barton is fraud-free, but his promo video says that the Hooke tends to correlate with 1.strong sector with long-term uptrend, 2.”strong” stock with short-term price movement stalled and low trading volume, 3.oversold and thus underpriced. Good luck with your investing and your presidency.–Bob
Checking his “View Inside” book link on Amazon on page 220 there, gives a worksheet for entering a trade. https://www.amazon.com/10-Minute-Millionaire-Secret-Anyone-Million/dp/1118856708/
One disgruntled customer doesn’t necessarily imply fraud, though such customer’s claim of fraud should remind one that their own due-diligence might have its limits. http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/stealth-profits-trader-dr-barton/nationwide/stealth-profits-trader-dr-barton-very-slick-ripoff-baltimore-nationwide-1370552
Hi JRod,
Could you please teach me the technique. My email account is r.sankarkumar@gmail.com
Thanks,
Kumar
Hey Rod
I would be most grateful if you could
shed some light on this system. I think that the hardest part is to establish the red line for a base. What do you think?
Hello JRob,
I too am interested in your system. You can email me at randycllwy@yahoo.com.
This hook pattern wasn’t invented by Barton. You can find the whole book by Joe Ross at Amazon (Trading the Ross Hook) for about $150.00. Most of these touts
never teach what is actually happening in the market. So, again at Amazon you can purchase a kindle book (format) by Martin Cole for about $10.00. Thats cheap enough. Then youtube Martin Cole and see that he has a Ten part video series.
This will keep you away from them touts and keep their hands out of your pockets.
You can also youtube Joe Ross for more free info. If you still have time on your hands. then youtube (Linda Bradford Raschke) hours of content there from one of the best teachers you will ever see. In addition if you still have time on your hands then youtube. Martha Stokes.. also Steve Mauro. ok thats enugh.
enjoy
Monty — thanks for all the wonderful resource info!
Anyone else I should check out, since you seem knowledgeable on the subjest?
Yes Sharon, you can find all the info on the (ross hook) at amzn.
a guy name Joe Ross wrote the book. There is a guy named Martin Cole. He has a ten part video series on Youtube. Also a e-book at amzn. which I do have. also two other people have youtube videos. LINDA bradford Raschke. has some great vid’s and all of them are the best and they all are free. I have said before she is the best educator I ‘ve seen. the vid’s that are are best the ones that are two hrs plus she has some great setups there. also check out Martha Stokes she understands and how to trade with the algos.
Sharon, Steve Bigalow calls this same setup a (scoop)
You can google him to get to his website. He often has a program
when he sells like 12 of his best setup that doesn’t cost much.
and the scoop in in there. He did it for me years ago but it was like
12 setups for $12.00. (candlestickforum.com) there are a lot of free resources there. I know other traders including myself that use’s his setups
he also offers lotsa free webinars that seem to come weekly.
Thanks Monty – will check out those resources!
Sounds like JRod needs to start His own 2000.00 membership. Remember, only 500 slots will be open!
and he would make one million dollars ($1,000,000)! (see previous posts)