Foundation Alliance, The


“Research group” membership that uses analysis of broad market cycles to time buy and sell calls.

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FoundationFauxpas
October 12, 2009 3:11 pm
After leaving Weiss’ MCP, I decided to take a flyer on the newly hyped Foundation Alliance. So far, it’s as bad in picking winners as the MCP. Trying to time the market by statistical measures has some merit, but I find they don’t have it down to a science. Thankfully, I only paper traded most of their recommendations. The few I did buy in to were losers. There are contradictions between Foundation Alliance recommendations, Safe Money, and Real Wealth. I actually made money by buying the opposite ETF from what they recommended. If I can do better than they, why… Read more »
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William
October 25, 2009 6:52 pm
I also left the MCP to go with the FA. I don’t know who’s worse, Claus (MCP) or Richard (FA) as they both are money losers. How does Martin Weiss have the nerve to charge thousands of dollars for sub par services. Martin I know you and your cronies read this site’s reviews from time to time so read this. The day is coming where you and your organization will find itself once again before the SEC and this time Obama’s people won’t let you off as easily as the Bush people did, and it’s going to be very easy… Read more »
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Dave
October 26, 2009 7:34 am

I am not pleased with MCP or FA either, but most investment newsletters do not deliver as well as they suggested they would in their hyped-up promos. I don’t see that Weiss is any more liable in that regard than any other newsletter. If the price of gold goes up more, MCP may even make a small profit (or perhaps already has?). FA is (quick/dirty estimate) modestly ahead thanks mainly to one recent lucky pick.

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Portfolio Man
October 26, 2009 8:23 am
ALL, PLEASE STOP HERE!!! Please look at the reviews for “MILLION-DOLLAR CONTRARIAN PORTFOLIO” on this website for the real truth about Martin Weiss and company. Martin’s products are just expensive money losing venture!!! BEWARE NEW MEMBERS, MARTIN WILL DESTROY YOUR WEALTH!!! Martin is just a marketing machine with a lot of hype. He has some interesting views but he cannot execute a profitable trade. Just read all of the members that lost on his Million Dollar Contrarian Portfolio and Crises ETF. The only crises was me purchasing his picks through his high paid subscriptions. Please don’t let his sincere notes/emails… Read more »
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Cia
November 19, 2009 12:30 pm
The best thing I can say about Weiss products is that refunds are given promptly upon cancellation. I paid for both the Million Dollar Contrarian service and The Foundation Alliance. I left the $1M service after 6 months and the portfolio was still down @5% at that time. Considering the way the market has moved up – it is hard to parlay that into a win. As for TFA – it was a total loser. I stayed in for 5 months and the total gain amounted to $67 after I subtracted trading fees – but that didn’t count the money… Read more »
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Former R Mogey associate
November 23, 2009 12:49 pm
Having been on the ‘front-line’ at the Foundation for the Study of Cycles (FSC) located in Albuquerque, New Mexico, I can tell all interested parties the TechSignal software developed by Richard Mogey is a farce and a scam. The president of FSC is a low-brow con artist with the sales mentality of a used-car salesman. The fact that the Weiss Group has agreed to a $5 million, 10-year contract with FSC is a poor choice for the Weiss group, which in essence shows the Weiss Group is being swindled themselves. Tragic irony or poetic justice? You decide. I feel the… Read more »
Foundation Alliance is FRAUD
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Foundation Alliance is FRAUD
November 23, 2009 1:04 pm
Brief history of Martin Armstrong, Foundation for the Study of Cycles (FSC) guru, and highly acclaimed hero of current FSC president David Michael Perales: In 1999, Japanese fraud investigators determined that Armstrong had been collecting money from Japanese investors, improperly “commingling” these funds with funds from other investors, and using the fresh money to cover losses he had incurred while trading; this is a form of Ponzi scheme. Assisting Armstrong in his scheme was the Republic New York Bank which produced false account statements to reassure Armstrong’s investors, and which in 2001 agreed to pay $606 million as restitution for… Read more »
Reviewer of Review by Foundation Alliance is FRAUD
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Reviewer of Review by Foundation Alliance is FRAUD
November 25, 2009 4:52 pm

The FA is FAKE, as is the phoney who speakes poorly of the whisle-blower from the FA. The FA sucks as does Weiss and all his associated services. Martin probably wrote the above review himself, that sick old money grubbing goat. Weiss’ new motto:

“We can loose your money as fast as you can make it”

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Bigb
December 2, 2009 2:07 pm
As of this writing 17 of the last 18 trades have been LOSERS. and two open trades are down as well. Throwing darts would be better. And they’ve had bad luck too…a stock they sold at a loss proceeded to get a rich buyout offer afterwards. I subscribed but quickly realized these guys don’t have a clue. I have managed to recoup my investment by not listening to their sell advice and avoiding some “recos” altogether. I am actually figuring the law of averages may translate to a couple of winners soon…nobody can be this bad. It is almost amusing,… Read more »
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Portfolio Man
December 2, 2009 11:17 pm

ALL,

All of the reviews are consistent with all other Martin Weiss products, THEY ARE LOSERS!!! I am glad I didn’t waste my time or money. As I said before in many reviews:

PLEASE STOP HERE!!! Please look at the reviews for “MILLION-DOLLAR CONTRARIAN PORTFOLIO” on this website for the real truth about Martin Weiss and company. Martin’s products are just expensive money losing venture!!! BEWARE NEW MEMBERS, MARTIN WILL DESTROY YOUR WEALTH!!! Martin is just a marketing machine with a lot of hype.

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Bigb
December 3, 2009 7:20 am
I am sympathetic to all who lost money and write about the MCP here, but at least that is somewhat understandable. That was marketed as a contrarian service…it was going negative in a big bull market so inevitably it would be down. The FA was marketed as a mostly long service. The fact it is down and so wrong in a up market is incredible. They are consistently picking the wrong stocks to play or missing on the timing, which is hard to believe for a system that touts its ability to predict cycles. The first few trades were okay… Read more »
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Dave
December 3, 2009 10:28 am

I stopped acting on the recommendations a month or 2 ago and am just watching the train wreck. It does appear as if the “cycles” approach, while maybe useful for predicting big-picture trends, is pretty useless for short-term predictions of behavior of individual stocks. They really should pull the plug on this service, IMO. Hard to imagine they won’t be forced to return most subscribers’ money anyway–who would wish to keep paying for an obviously losing service?

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Portfolio Man
December 4, 2009 2:27 am
Bigb, What do you mean it was understandable that he lost money as he was contrarian??? Do you know what a contrarian means, please look it up? We should have crushed the market and made huge gains becasuse going long was so far out of favor at the time (ie being a contrarian and ahead of the curve when it is not the current trend). When he started the service the Dow was at 6,700 and the S&P was 666, both fell by more than half and everyone (including all analyst on CNBC and Fox) were prediciting much lower levels… Read more »
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bigb
December 4, 2009 6:36 am
PMan we are on the same side of the argument. I received the MCP marketing garbage and tossed it. I fully understand contrarian but anyone familiar with Weiss knows the guy is a perma bear gloom and doom. When the S&P was 666 he was spewing nonsense this was just the beginning. Unless there was something specific in the marketing that said they would be looking long it should have been obvious he was going to step on the gas on the short side, that is his mo (must have something to do with Dad, but I digress). And when… Read more »
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GIGLINE
December 14, 2009 6:30 pm
When the FA first started they did pretty well with their stock picks but it has been all down hill from there with 11 (eleven) straight losses. They even recommended stocks that were losers the first time around and they turned out to be losers again the second go round. Interested in Options? I signed up for Larry’s Resource Windfall Trader and it has been a loser from the start. All of the current trades except for one are in the red. The one is barely making a profit. I have canceled both my subscriptions and will have to wing… Read more »
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Dave
December 14, 2009 9:16 pm
Yeh, Larry is the new public face of Weiss et al presumably because he is trusted far more than Martin, who has severely (IMO) damaged his reputation publicly with his grossly incorrect market predictions (not to mention the omigod-the-sky-is-falling advice in his book which should be on the $0.50 shelves at bookstores everywhere by now) since last Fall. The new Weiss all-in-one fleecing service is not an FA thing per se, it’s a Weiss thing–everyone subscribed to any of the services is getting the sales pitch. Seems like an act of desperation, something like, “Well, yeh we know we’re not… Read more »
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bigb
January 22, 2010 10:47 am

Anybody here still involved in TFA, or was I the last one to cancel last month. Curious to see if the calls have gotten any better. It did sound like an interesting concept, too bad it didn’t work in the real world.

geoff
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geoff
January 24, 2010 4:50 pm

TFA’s trading and performance history over the last year is available for one and all to freely see by going to the http://www.weissresearchissues.com/ website and clicking on the [Trading History] link at the bottom of the page… this takes you to the 12-Month Trading History page of all of the Weiss Premium Services where you will find The Foundation Alliance listed. click on that and view the resultant PDF file — it’s all there any ol’ time your “calls gotten any better” curiosity is piqued.

bigb
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bigb
January 25, 2010 3:11 pm

Thanks geoff. Send regards to Martin, Larry and Richard!

Porto
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Porto
January 26, 2010 5:01 pm
I subscribed to The Foundation Alliance when it first came out and decided to not trade any recos for the trial period and test it out. Other than their great call on buying SLV in August and holding into September, I found the early performance lackluster. I cancelled in September for a full refund (no hassle on the refund) and was shocked to learn of their horrible record since then. I have been trading on my own, both long and short, and have been doing well. What’s their excuse for such poor performance? I subscribed to the $7,400 Weiss Elite… Read more »
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bigb
January 27, 2010 9:53 am
I actually managed to turn a little profit during my experiment with TFA, mostly by being selective on which recos to buy and when to sell them. Also got lucky not to sell 3Com on their reco, which proceeded to get bought out. The concept made some sense to me and they were over over over due to get hot, so I was curious what has happened since I dropped off. Looking at the performance of all of the funds on the site provided by some other commenter above (probably a Weiss rep)it is stunning how consistently bad all of… Read more »
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Stan
January 30, 2010 1:26 pm

I have subscribed from the beginning. The predictions for market trends have been pretty good, but the stock picks have been bad. They soon realized that the 2% stop was too tight as they were quickly getting stopped out of most trades. They made an adjustment, but they just can’t get it right.

I will be cancelling this subscription now.

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MSA
March 31, 2010 7:44 pm

I subscribed when the service first was initiated. They obviously don’t have this system? down to where it is profitable-certainly nothing like the promises and forecasts made to entice subscribers. Frankly having been in business 35 years, if it were me, I’d be issuing refunds and apologies not selling the next miracle service.

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bigb
April 1, 2010 12:19 pm

The ONLY good thing about Weiss is that they promptly refund the unused portion of the service. At least that was my experience. If the results have continued to be as bad as they were when I was involved and you want out you should call them right away. No sense losing any more of your money.

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Dave
April 1, 2010 12:56 pm
Who EVER apologizes in this business? No one. Neither Robert Hsu nor Louis Navellelier (2 long-time pros who should have been able to see the market was turning bearish) warned their subscribers to get the heck out of the market in ’08, and neither of them apologized for their grievous error after the carnage. To his slight credit, Hsu explained recently why he didn’t advise getting to the sidelines—he said he knew the Chinese mkt would bounce back. Great work, Bob, thanks. The whole newsletter enterprise is, IMO, corrupt. They all stand beneath the toilet with open bags as we… Read more »
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bigb
April 1, 2010 1:52 pm

…which is why a site such as this is valuable (I am in no way affiliated with it), to warn others of our experiences and do some homework before forking over hard earned cash to strangers. Remember these newsletters are all trying to predict the future…if they were any good at it they’d have retired rich a long time ago.

Sunshine Man
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Sunshine Man
April 11, 2010 3:21 pm

Their theory is interesting but didn’t translate into much profit for me. I dropped this service and switched over to Larry Edelson’s Resource Trader which has been better.

Susan S
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Susan S
June 4, 2010 5:29 pm

Bad, no awful, no terrible.

john gerard
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john gerard
September 14, 2010 10:05 am
I have subscribed to TFA, but i have not followed any of their stock picks – i’ve decided what to buy/sell and when from looking at the cycle charts and combining that with my own experience/technial/fundamental analysis, and most importantly, market psychology. i’ve found it to be very helpful for timing. i’ve just been buying options on stuff like GLD or SPY, and currency options as well. nothing they’ve chosen. you’ve got to go with the big picture, rather than individual stocks. can’t comment on the picks, as i haven’t used them. but the overall market view, i’ve found has… Read more »
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bigb
September 14, 2010 2:17 pm
John…that is not the way they sold the service…at a very expensive price I might add. I actually did well…not great but I definitely came out ahead…so I am not griping. I used their calls selectively…opted out of a few and held on to others after they said sell. I and I guess you have an advantage though, in that I can spend a lot of time watching my holdings and understand a little bit about what I am doing. Caveat emptor of course, but when you boast about the kind of track record for stock calls these guys said… Read more »
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dlst
September 14, 2010 7:13 pm
>>Weiss, Edelson and Mogey sold a specific service that did not work as advertised. Period. They should be called out for that.<< I agree. Had they marketed the service at $99/yr with the warning that subscribers should not act on any of the suggestions (“picks” is a little too strong) unless they are experienced and astute traders capable of managing their own risk via entry and exit points, then there would be no basis for complaining. It was instead marketed as a complete “We do the work for you, you make effortless money” package. Is anyone who falls for that… Read more »
Jerry
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Jerry
October 26, 2010 8:33 am

I found the foundation alliance to be an unusual approach to feeling the pulse of the market…but is not exact in the magnitude nor timing. I believe some people tend to try to use it to time exact stock moves. In reality all it tells me is the “pressures” that re-occur and when they are due to do so again. This influences me as a final timing decision, however I use other means to decide which stocks to purchase. It has been adequate for my usage.

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dlst
October 29, 2010 10:15 am
>>I believe some people tend to try to use it to time exact stock moves.<< Yes indeed, such as the people who SELL the danged service, and most of the people who subscribe to it, not surprisingly, as TIMING EXACT STOCK MOVES WAS THE SELLING POINT OF THE SERVICE IN THE FIRST PLACE. (sorry to yell, but sheesh—you can’t blame people for doing the one thing that the service says they are to do). Bear in mind that Weiss et al are painfully aware that their timing is world-class terrible, so in the last year or two they have been… Read more »
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GRL
November 5, 2010 4:29 pm
I subscribed early in 2010 after I decided buying and holding was not the way to go. I know something about cycles from past studies, and their basic info was interesting. I never really got suckered by the hype of all the COULD have made over the last 50 years or so (LOL!)…I just wanted to see how they were using cycles. Wound up with an awful lot of short duration trades and some that were stopped out. I quit because I didn’t want to trade so much…Customer service was OK on cancellation. Frankly, I am now using a free… Read more »
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John W
November 11, 2010 11:11 am
My father and I bought the Weiss Contrarian newsletter last year. What a dog, obviously Claus isn’t the golden boy anymore, I won’t look at anything he has to say. I will say, I did buy their Weiss Elite deal, a bunch of newsletters for lifetime for $550 about 3 months ago. I have taken advice from each, but never put more than about 3% in any one position. In the past 3 months I have gotten double digit returns. I signed up for the new Growth deal with Marty A, but will cancel before the end of 90 days.… Read more »
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Jonathan
November 17, 2010 12:19 pm
A complete disaster of a service, as is basically everything produced by the Weiss Group. Light your money on fire and at least enjoy the few seconds of warmth generated as opposed to giving a single wooden nickel to any service produced by them. Avoid Larry Edelson at all costs or you will regret it. Martin is no better, even though he has a somewhat likable personality. They are masters at advertising, marketing, and emotional manipulation. They will convince you that the world is about to end, and your only chance to survive (and make tons of money) is by… Read more »
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Spearchucker
November 29, 2010 9:33 pm

Thought I’d by-pass the hype and subscribe directly to the “Foundation”. What a crock. The newsletter that I’d subscribed to hadn’t even been developed and the Director David Perales clearly had no idea what was going into it. Naturally, I tried to extract a refund from these low-lifes and even got David to agree. Except that its been over a month and no sign of any money. What a scam. Subscribe at your peril.

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Denis H
December 21, 2010 6:40 am
Review by Denis H. Ireland, Dec 21st 2010. Hi, I have been a subscriber to two of Weiss’s services for 2 years, these being RWR and Dividend Superstars. My view is that the information received from Larry and Martin provides a very good view of the broad investment environment. Whether this be the effects that will result from the excessive Dollar printing, or the value that can be found in real assets as hedges, i.e. Oil, Gold, etc. This information is valuable and helpful to the man-in-the-street investor who does not have the time or resources to find these things… Read more »
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AlexP
January 6, 2011 5:31 pm
I did not subscribe to the Foundation Alliance but I have found the Weiss historical research interesting. I believe we would have had the double dip by now if it were not for Helicopter Ben, who took the opposite approach to the Fed Chairman in the 30’s. They could not have predicted such unprecented intervention by goverment. It is just a matter of time befoe that intervention fails. I did buy into the reverse ETF’s and am well under from QEI and QEII but I am confident that Weiss, Vogt and Larson have it nailed. For those of you are… Read more »
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A Starzynsky
January 11, 2011 8:56 am

It would be good if reviewers posted results of their Foundation Alliance-related trades and whether they adhered to the trade dates suggested. The average trade recommendation netted 23% during their first year, 2009. In 2010 they have consistently turned up winners (average trade result not yet calculated). After it started being informed by Foundation Alliance, my short-term portfolio turned around from down 12% to a gain of 15%.

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bigb
January 14, 2011 2:52 pm
You are a total fraud. I was involved from day 1…maybe if you mean NEGATIVE 23% you mght be close to right. The only way I was able to salvage anything from the service, other than obtaining a refund for the unused portion, was to ignore the timing of some of their calls and wait before buying and selling. I tracked it, even when I wasn’t involved. Read some of the above posts from subscribers during the time period you suggest. That is the truth. I am out a long time but continue to monitor this so that potential investors… Read more »
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Brian
January 30, 2011 7:57 pm

They certainly started slow, but the FA had an excellent 2011. And here are the stats.

12/15/2010 95 Closed CEVA $22.68 $20.41 -10.01%
12/03/2010 92 Closed SH $47.02 $45.43 -3.38%
12/03/2010 92 Closed UUP $22.39 $22.96 2.55%
10/13/2010 87 Closed AZK $5.97 $6.85 14.74%
10/13/2010 87 Closed GLD $124.50 $132.73 6.61%
10/07/2010 85 Closed SH $49.82 $47.82 -4.01%
09/16/2010 82 Closed SPY $109.54 $112.73 2.91%
09/16/2010 82 Closed CTXS $58.56 $66.62 13.76%
09/16/2010 82 Closed VRX $58.11 $65.31 12.39%
08/25/2010 80 Closed NKTR $14.32 $12.74 -11.03%
08/05/2010 71 Closed ALTR $27.97 $27.76 -0.75%
08/05/2010 71 Closed MCD $70.93 $70.50 -0.61%
08/05/2010 71 Closed BVF $21.09 $22.02 4.41%
08/05/2010 71 Closed ROVI $42.77 $42.96 0.44%
06/23/2010 68 Closed SH $51.78 $51.83 0.1%
06/23/2010 65 Closed USO $33.54 $34.58 3.1%
06/23/2010 68 Closed UDN $24.62 $24.80 0.73%
05/27/2010 61 Closed SH $47.82 $52.50 9.79%
05/13/2010 56 Closed DBV $23.64 $23.55 -0.38%
04/30/2010 56 Closed FXA $91.97 $93.50 1.66%
04/30/2010 59 Closed SPY $120.86 $120.88 0.02%
04/30/2010 59 Closed URBN $39.42 $38.01 -3.58%
04/30/2010 59 Closed NVO $80.75 $82.00 1.55%
04/07/2010 50 Closed SH $53.05 $48.73 -8.14%
03/31/2010 53 Closed CY $12.12 $11.48 -5.28%
03/31/2010 53 Closed ARMH $10.30 $10.77 4.56%
03/31/2010 53 Closed BJS $22.60 $21.17 -6.33%
03/31/2010 50 Closed UUP $23.10 $23.79 2.99%
01/07/2010 45 Closed SPLS $24.52 $24.19 -1.35%
01/06/2010 45 Closed CREE $54.06 $57.22 5.85%
01/05/2010 43 Closed AAPL $193.17 $214.60 11.09%

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Dave
January 31, 2011 12:39 pm
Did you mean an excellent 2010? Thanks for the #s. Not sure the best way to assess them, but that’s an average gain of 1.43%, according to Excel. Not what Travis would describe as ‘nosebleed’, but better than no gain or an avg. loss. Is there a better way to assess these results? If that sort of avg. gain were made, say, every week, that’d be very good. But these data are for an entire year. Here are the gains sorted to make them a little easier to comprehend: 14.74% 13.76% 12.39% 11.09% 9.79% 6.61% 5.85% 4.56% 4.41% 3.10% 2.99%… Read more »
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bigb
February 1, 2011 10:40 am

That is about what I calculate Dave…1.4%. Excellent…right. S&P 500 up 15% for the year, Wilshire 5000 up 17.9%. You could have bought a low cost ETF on either and significantly outperformed this service for way less.

And of course that doesn’t account for all of the early investors who got killed in 2009.

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EagleFl
July 26, 2011 6:35 pm

Another heavily hyped service that delivered far less than advertized. I stuck with it for 3 or 4 months and then took a refund. Weiss shows about half up half down for the last 12 months; the biggest winner being 14 percent and the biggest loser at -17 percent. There big thing is cycles. Larry Edelson, of the Weiss editors, uses cycles in his services. In fact, his free Uncommon Wisdom which he posts every Thursday morning frequently refers to cycles. This service is unexciting and average at best.

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