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written by reader โ€œThe often overlooked or ignored details surrounding Rare Earths.โ€

By RPaul, September 29, 2011

Having worked on a very detailed project covering Rare Earth deposits, production, manufacture, and end use for over two years, I am amazed at the touts who pitch various companies associated with Rare Earths as the next big investment opportunity. There are a number of reasons why the companies they mention by name will have a very difficult time ever turning a resemblance of a profit. Let me begin with just a few basic premises in this post (which I hope to develop into a series of topics related to Rare Earth) that are somehow being completed ignored by the touts, but hopefully will not be overlooked by investors.

–Not all Rare Earth Elements are created equal. There are 17 Rare Earth Elements (REE) in the periodic table; 15 lanthanides (elements 57-71) plus scandium and yttrium (21 and 39), which are included because they are very often found in the same mineral deposits. Each has different chemical properties. Typically, REE are in one of two groups, Light or Heavy. Lanthanum and Cerium are Light REE used to make refractive glass, battery electrode, camera lenses and as fluid cracking catalysts by oil refineries. Neodymium and Samarium, also Light REE, are used to make permanent magnets. Heavy REE, such as Gadolinium, Dysprosium and Erbium are of prized interest for their uses in specialized magnets, lasers, and phosphors. Because of their unique properties and uses, Heavy REE are very desirable. There are also found in the smallest quantities, some not all in every deposit.

–Not all Rare Earth Mineral Deposits are created equal. It shouldnโ€™t be a surprise to anyone that individual deposits of rare-containing minerals hold vastly different amounts of each of the 17 elements. With the exception of the Ion Absorption Clay Chinese mineral deposits known as the South China Clays, which are almost exclusively heavy REE, all other deposits have not only far more of the Light elements, but very little of the most desirable heavies. In addition to the actual rare earth element content of various deposits, there are differences in the minerals in those deposits that contain the rare earth elements themselves. Monazite, the most common rare earth containing mineral in the United States can contain anywhere from 6% on up of Thorium, a radioactive element that must be handled, and somehow disposed of, during the initial concentration phase of the separation process. The major deposit in Australia, at Mt. Weld, is actually a super-gene monazite, which not only has a relatively high thorium content but also is more difficult to separate owing to the stronger molecular bond. The majority of identified deposits in Canada are silicates, which have molecular bonds that are even more difficult to separate. The monazite deposit in South Africa has such a high radioactive thorium content, up to 18%, that workers in the planned open pit mine will not be able to work more than 2-hr shifts due to radiation concerns. Contrasted, outside of the ion adsorption clays in southern China, the primary rare earth containing mineral in China is Bastaesite, which contains no radioactive elements and as a result, tailings from the phase 1 concentration are easier to handle.

So, the first questions one need to ask when researching these touted companies are: What is the base mineral of your deposit and how does it assay (light versus heavy). If Monazite, the typical Monazite-CE ore contains 45-48% cerium, approximately 24% lanthanum, about 17% neodymium, 5% praseodymium, and minor quantities of samarium, gadolinium, and yttrium. If a company has a monazite mineral deposit, for example, and it assays at .05 praseodymium, that company will need to mine 20 metric tons of ore to end up with 1 ton of praseodymium. Not bad you say. What if that deposit assays at .001 for Yttrium (a very desirable element for use in military lasers). Now, the company needs to mine 1000 tons of ore for 1 ton of Yttrium. At a conservative average of 6-12% thorium content for Monazite ores, you will also have 60 to 120 tons of a radioactive material (thorium) as a bonus to do something with. Permitting for ordinary mine tailings disposal (gold/silver) is difficult enough but disposing of radioactive materials is a whole different adventure. The super-gene monazite deposit at Mt. Weld Australia is another story by itself. The company working this deposit must transport the ore 1,000 km to the port of Perth. A separate facility had to be built because of the high radioactive content (Thorium). Then the ore is shipped an additional 2,000 km to Malaysia for processing. Here is where it gets interesting. The firm indeed obtained a permit to build the processing facility (over the protests of locals who remember the last time this processing was done in Malaysia by the Japanese.) BUT, has yet to obtain a permit to operate the facility. So just how much processing will be done this year???

Moving along, how (and where) do these companies plan to concentrate and separate the individual elements? Currently there are ZERO facilities in the United States, Canada, Australia (hence shipment to Malaysia), Europe, or South America to chemically separate the individual elements. There is one small facility in Estonia and the rest are in China. While I said, โ€œchemically separateโ€ most people involved with the process will agree that there is an equal amount of alchemy involved in the extremely complex process of separating each individual element from its neighbor. Just like with separating PMGs whereby you remove the Rhodium, next the Iridium, then Ruthenium and Osmium, the Palladium, leaving the Platinum, REE elements are separated one by one. This results in a whole lot of time, a lot of chemicals (sulfuric acid or nitric acid if you are Russian), and a lot of adjustments along the processing line. Have any of the touts seen one of these facilities? They range from several hundred separate processing tanks to over a thousand. The concentrate moves from tank to tank to be worked and for the last elements separated, it can take 12 months! If all you are looking for is Lanthanum, you can conceivably quit after the first separation and dump the remaining ore. If, however, you wish to gather up the small amount of Erbium that happens to be in the ore, you need to first separate 11 other elements. These elements are one atomic number apart from each, have strong bonds and it takes a pretty good amount of acid boiling to separate. Much like oil refineries are geared up to process specific types of crude oil feedstock, all current rare earth separation facilities (even in China) are set up for specific ores traditionally fed to the plant. For example, the lone non-Chinese separation facility in Estonia has processed loparite ore tailings from the Russian Kola peninsula Titanium mine since its inception. The process line (stainless steel tanks into which nitric acid is poured and heated at different temperatures along the way) is geared for that specific ore which has a known and specific element content. Much as a refinery geared to refine Bonnie Light Crude from Nigeria would find it almost impossible to refine Heavy Saudi Crude, this Estonian separation plant cannot process monazite ore without a massive change in the process line. Talk of multiple ore refining capabilities, a โ€œwashing machineโ€ type dial to process any and all ores containing rare earth elements just is not feasible despite what is being touted.
In summation, Rare Earth โ€œwannabe producingโ€ company stocks are being hyped with little regard to the inherent differences they possess in mineral bodies, REE content by element, and permitting problems. In future posts, I will put forth research behind such premises as: โ€œCan a Stand Alone RE Producer actually surviveโ€ (China is moving to an integrated Re market whereby the countryโ€™s largest steel producer, copper producer and aluminum producer are each taking a piece of the RE market), โ€œWhat is China Really Trying to Accomplish with Rare Earthsโ€, โ€œRecycling versus Re-useโ€, โ€œRE Stockpiles or Take-Aways, the Biggest Bang for the (taxpayersโ€™) Buckโ€, and โ€œThorium, Can it Replace (or at least supplement) Uranium as a Nuclear Fuel Source and Give Life to the U.S. RE Industry at the Same Time?โ€

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Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe
September 29, 2011 2:12 pm

Thanks, RPaul — really interesting note, you clearly know rare earths better than I do and it’s always great to get some informed commentary.

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blackjack
blackjack
April 5, 2012 3:00 am

a lot has happened since this article and one thing is for sure the Mt Weld mine does not have high Thorium – far from it.”
Get an education and get the politics out of the Lynas rare earths issue
see it for what it is

the court hearing was put into a “break” by the plaintiffs
LYNAS wanted its day in court to give facts and were delayed yet again

If you want to see what is done with the REE process and the “waste” as they call it

watch this http://www.mobtv.my/public_events-1131.html

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Dave Shortt
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Dave Shortt
September 29, 2011 3:13 pm

Great Article..I welcome your knowledge of this industry. I think ACH is one such company that bought a large chuck of the are Earths industry over in china. With the new regulation they might not have gotten such a good investment. However ACH looks like another play on rare earths along with REE and MCP.

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blufox
September 29, 2011 7:38 pm

Excellent, informative post RPaul and greatly appreciated. Have owned a fairly large amount of Lyscf, Lynas Corp of Mt Weld, since October 09 and look forward to hearing more.
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nickfraser99
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September 29, 2011 7:38 pm

Thanks. This information confirms what I came to the conclusion of months ago, but which I would always get labeled a “basher” if i went to a message board with – that the hype surrounding rare earth companies is not justified and that like a modern day gold rush, while a few might possibly strike big, the majority will probably only lose money.

Even without as detailed knowledge behind the science of it that you possess, just looking at the economics of rare earth firms doesnt seem to add up. The current annual market for rare earths is around $2 billion, yet there are firms who estimate they will need almost a billion alone just to get their mine production and process online to actually pump out rare earths. This makes no sense. In comparison the annual gross of Hollywood movies this year is up to around $8 billion currently. Would anyone in their right mind invest in a movie that would cost $4 billion to make which is half of the industry wide gross revenue? Even if that $2 billion annual market grows two, three, or five fold, the economics still donโ€™t add up. Also it appears that if just one of these megaprojects got up and running with production levels they are estimating it would flood the entire world market driving prices down and further crippling any possibility of other firms to turn a profit. To top it all off some of these rare earth firms seem too reminiscent of the late 90โ€™s dot.com firms. But instead of a few guys with an office in Silicon Valley but no real business, this time itโ€™s a few guys in an office in Vancouver or Calgary with a claim to some land up north, a geologist on their payroll, and thatโ€™s about it.

Lastly, I donโ€™t know the merits of the science (perhaps you can weigh in) but Iโ€™m now seeing more articles about companies researching and developing rare earth alternatives. Just one more thing that would drive the price down if these substitutes are practical and reach fruition.

Anyway I look forward to your follow-up piece.

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Mohd Razak khan
Mohd Razak khan
September 30, 2011 5:54 am

Very interesting,have much to learn about analyzing companies and so forth.Especially those touts who are out to make a fast buck.Thanks,RPaul

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alainbm
September 30, 2011 1:25 pm

I’d like to add my thanks as well. One of the things I found when I started researching the Rare Earth sector and more specifically Greenland Minerals and Energy was that a lot of these deposits turned up with Uranium as well. When I questioned what extra cost it would entail I never really got a direct response. The typical attitude is that the Uranium was seen as an additional element to sell.

A propos I just saw another headline that China is still trying to clamp down on unauthorized Rare Earth mining.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-09/26/c_131161193.htm

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sdmaley
October 10, 2011 1:13 am

Given what seems to be mounting interesting in thorium for reactors, it might become worth more than whatever extra it costs to handle and process.

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Sam
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Sam
November 4, 2011 12:41 pm
Reply to  sdmaley

You are right! However, who is digging and producing Thorium? Though it is a long term investment and probably I would by it in myson’s account.
My next response is for Travis, “The Great Gumshoe”,

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Paul
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November 4, 2011 1:17 pm
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Great article RPaul
What I don’t understand is why Lynas built their separation plant in Malaysia. Labor cost is not a relevant factor in a highly complex modern (automated) facility.
And with regard to separation/refining facilities I am not sure that the only western one is that in Estonia. According to their websites Neo Material and Great Western (Less Common Metals UK subsidiary) seem to operate refining plants. And then there are several recyclers (e.g. Umicore) with the ability to extract REE’s from electronic waste. Recycling can and will be expanded significantly if prices stay high. Miners without purification know-how, relevant patents, and facilities probably won’t make it ever.

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Sam
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November 5, 2011 8:32 am
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Isn’t Lynas in bed with Mitsubishi? If so, it may be their decision for cheap labor and also for invironmental issues.

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Myron Martin
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November 4, 2011 12:30 pm

As an investor who was early to the Rare Earth sector, which has made me quite a bit of money, I too appreciated the article. The following comment was so appropriate it made me chuckle; ” It is very heartening to someone like me who spent over 2 years of his life digging for the facts and have so many policy makers make a collective โ€œduhโ€ when I raised these issues to read in gumshoe that yes, there is intelligent life out there because it sure wasnโ€™t in the Capital” So what else is new, looking at the financial mess the country is in, should it be all that surprising that there dosen’t appear to be all that much intelligent life in Washington?

The author is right, it is the HEAVY Elements that are most in demand and there are some Rare Earth Stocks that are viable and developing markets and are profitable. At the top of my list are Neo Material Technologies NEM, the first stock I wrote up as a new discovery,
(see my website http://www.myronswinningjuniors.com) but I also like Dacha Strategic Metals DAC-V I first bought @ .40 and they now claim inventory worth about 4 X that, so it is still grossly undervalued. I also like Stan’s Energy which owns the former Russian REE plant and the separation technology employed, and is well advanced in getting the plant back into production . Moly Corp and Linus are the highest profile companies, but the company with the best resource likely to be developed next, (in my opinion) is held by Ucore Rare Metals UCU-V and its website has a wealth of information for anyone who wants to become knowledgable about the Rare Earth sector. Will be writing up an updated article on all the players and posting to my website before year end, and yes I hold stock in all those mentioned, except Molycorp.

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Sam
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November 5, 2011 9:56 am
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Indeed! I like your comment You made my day……………………

Some time ago, I read about Neo Material Tecnologies. I liked the company and I wrote the name on a piece of a paper. when the time came to buy the stock, I could not find that piece of paper; and I was kicking myself. Now I got tha name. So I am waiting for Monday morning. I also went to your site and I liked it. I have now registered myself on your site. Thanks a lot.

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Lloyd Moss
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November 4, 2011 12:49 pm

I have been in and out of ree’s in the past 2 years. I am out now but watching closely. I wonder what you think of Stans Energy which is trying to restart a closed Soviet REE mining and processing operation in Krgystan and Greenland Mining and Minerals which is apparently sitting a large depost of REE’s commingled with Uranium and has been working on developing their own separation processes. Stans will probably beat GGG.ax to market. Here in the US Molycorp is saying they will have REE processing online “soon” but can they really do this given the environmental hazards of REE processing and strict anti-pollution regulations? Look at what happened to Lynas in Malaysia…

So are any of these likely to succeed?

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Sam
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November 4, 2011 1:01 pm

Travis, The Great Gumshoe,
I know this is an old article but it came in good time. I have had bought Lynas long long time before ordinary people knew the Rare Earth Element. That time I was ‘Regular” and “Irregular” did not existed. Probably I bought after one of Gumshoes e-mail somebody teasing Lynas.

I was making more than ten times and around that time I found that Gumshoe got out of that. I am right? Of course after a few days, Then I noticed that Lynas was going down and I followed Gumshoe’s footsteps but kept 10%. Recdently I noticed that all REE stocks have bottomed out on Oct. 03, 2011 and Since then Lynas has gone up almost 50% up, I am thinking that it is time to get back in. At the same time their Concentration Plant in Australia and the subsequent Advanced Material Plant in Malaysia are coming to completion.

So isn’t it the best time to buy Lynas now?

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Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe
November 4, 2011 2:06 pm
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I don’t know, I owned Lynas a couple years ago but haven’t invested in any rare earths stocks over the last year or so — meaning I missed out on that huge late 2010 rally in nearly all rare earth stocks, though much of that has been retraced for a lot of the companies. They’re still farther along than just about all of the miners, but I can no longer get my head around valuations for these stocks — the market for REEs is so small and fragmented among the various different elements, and so volatile and politically connected that there doesn’t seem to be much place for logical valuation. At least, not that I can figure out.

I do know that I’m definitely not interested in early stage explorers who have barely begun to define resources, from what I can tell there are plenty of REE resources and exploration targets in the world — it’s cost-effective production and refining that we seem to lack. if I bought one of these guys (and I may not ever buy one of them again, don’t know right now) it would most likely be someone with production or processing/refining capability.

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November 4, 2011 4:15 pm

Just found this report:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/01/us-rare-earths-lifton-idUSTRE7A03Q120111101
Here are two quotes from it:
1)Without separation capacity, all you have is a loss-making ore concentrate company
2) “the non-Chinese mines with the highest deposits of the heavy rare earths, which they consider critical in terms of future shortage, including dysprosium, belong to Lynas Corp, Great Western Minerals Group, Quest Rare Minerals,Ucore and Tasman metals”.
I cannot find any information about (access to) separation capacity or know-how for the last three – so that leaves just maybe two companies with the potential to survive. But if China wants, it can make any western company unprofitable for unlimited time periods. The only real trump cards the west holds are replacement technology development and recycling.

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blufox
November 4, 2011 6:21 pm

I bought a decent amount of LYSCF Oct-Dec 2009 and have done quite well. I wonder if the raison d’etre for locating their processing plant out of Australia is to avoid the possible pollution issues in their homeland. Suffice it to say I will hold unless it looks like my return drops considerably more.
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Sam
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November 5, 2011 8:35 pm
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Please see my reply to Response Item No. 8 above……….

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November 4, 2011 11:59 pm

Many of the comments above are not quite right. The item below is a response from Lynas about questions raised by “The Loony Left”. It may provide some balance and accuracy. Infrequently mentioned are Lynas’s rare earth interests outside Mt Weld. Also please apply your sceptic’s antennae when reading anything written by Jack Lifton. Suggest you do your own research and if you can come up with a better rare earth opportunity than Lynas I’d be delighted to hear about it.

First of all, I would like to note that this is an official Lynas response to your blog, โ€˜Lynas Outfoxedโ€™.

The people at Lynas have a strong set of values, these include operating in an honest, candid and transparent manner, as well as always to respect and contribute to the communities in which we live. Therefore we feel an obligation to respond to your blog to address some statements within your blog which Lynas believe are factually incorrect statements, statements which are taken out of context, and statements which are misleading.

The session you described was organised and chaired by Perbadanan Kemajuan Negeri Pahang (PKNP), not Lynas. The Department of Environment (DoE), The Atomic Energy Licensing Board (AELB), and Nuclear Malaysia (NM) were not guests, they were there to present detailed explanations of the processes they undertook in studying the Lynas project, to present their findings and approvals on the project, and to explain their ongoing role in monitoring the operation. A final presentation was given by the Executive Chairman of Lynas.

Your statement โ€œThe Lynas guys said the level of radioactivity was not as bad as the situation in Bukit Merah, Ipoh when the Asian Rare Earth was processing rare earthโ€ fails to state that the DoE, the AELB and NM also stated this. The raw material from Mount Weld in Australia is not the same as that processed at Bukit Merah. The Asian Rare Earth raw material was tin mining tailings. This contained high levels of thorium, which was the source of the radiation. The Lynas operation will use a raw material that has naturally low levels of thorium (50 times lower than the tin tailings used by Asian Rare Earth). This is due to the unique geology at Mount Weld. As a result, the Lynas raw material is safe, non-toxic and non-hazardous.

The radioactive level of Lynas residue is only 1/300th of the Asian Rare Earth residue (1900 vs 6.7 Bq/gram). The material processed at Bukit Merah could not be processed in Australia, Malaysia, or China today. Lynas have approvals to process the Mount Weld raw material in Malaysia, China and Australia (all of these approvals are open for inspection by appointment at our office in Gebeng). I will come back to why we chose Malaysia.

Lynas was well aware of Dr. Jayabalanโ€™s presence and we were pleased he had an opportunity to ask questions to the approval authorities and to Lynas โ€“ this is in line with our values. We respect his experience at Bukit Merah.

Allow to me comment on your โ€œexcerpts of what was said that dayโ€:
โ€œThe rare earth is being brought in from Mount Weld in Australia through Kuantan port, processed in Gebeng, and then taken back to Australiaโ€.
This is incorrect. Concentrate shall be brought in containers from Mount Weld in Australia through Kuantan Port. It will then be processed at our Plant in Gebeng. The products will then be exported to Japan, Europe and the US. Malaysia is an excellent distribution hub.
โ€œWhy bring the rare earth to Malaysia, why not processs it in Australia? The skills and engineering requirement cannot be met by the human resource in Australia and there is no open space in Australia for such a plantโ€.
Your reported answer to this question is not what was presented by Lynas. Lynas obtained all approvals for this project in Australia. However, Australia does not have the industrial infrastructure required for this project as can be found at Gebeng, Malaysia. Lynas could not find in Australia a location that has established industrial land, local production of required industrial chemicals, gas, electricity and a plentiful supply of water for the plant. Lynas had previously obtained approvals for this plant in China. However, the Chinese government imposed export limits on all final products as well as imposing export taxes. Lynas was not willing to invest in China and then to have the export of final products controlled by the Chinese government. Lynas subsequently identified Malaysia as the best global location for this plant. It is a credit to Malaysia that there are great port facilities, industrial land, good chemical supplies, reliable utilities, a clear legal framework, strict and clear regulations, good education standards at secondary, technical and university levels and a government with a vision for value added industry.
โ€œIs the waste product radioactive? Various answers were given at various points in time โ€“ technically it is not radioactive; the radioactivity level is 300 less than that in Bukit Merah; yes, it is radioactiveโ€
Allow us to clarify. There are three residues produced by the plant. The low level of naturally occurring radiation only goes to one of these residues, not the other two. Nuclear Malaysia presented on the levels of naturally occurring radiation we are all exposed to every day, and provided the following information on annual radiation exposure, in mSv/yr, in every day human activities:
โ€ข Smoking a pack of cigarettes daily 150
โ€ข Medical or dental x-ray 0.39
โ€ข Living in a masonry home 0.07
โ€ข Sleeping next to someone for 8 hour 0.02
โ€ข Watching television 2 hour daily 0.01
โ€ข Air travel, every airborne hour 0.005
โ€ข Using a computer terminal 0.001

On average a person receives exposure to natural radiation of 2.4mSV/annum from the environment in which we all live. People emit radiation, which is why sleeping next to your husband or wife increases you exposure to natural radiation by 0.02 mSv/year.

The radioactive level in the residue containing the low level of naturally occurring radiation is safe. The safe level is established and monitored by the Malaysian authorities based on Malaysian standards. Malaysian standards are identical to Australian and international standards. The standard sets the additional exposure limit for the public at 1 mSv/year and 50mSv/year for workers, this is in addition to the background radiation around us. At these levels, there is no risk to health. In the case of the Lynas Advanced Materials Plant, the public exposure will be zero, whereas the average exposure for an employee at the Lynas Advanced Material Plant will be only 0.2mSv/year.
โ€œWhat will happen to the waste once you decide to close the plant โ€“ are you going to ship it back to Australia? No answer given. They didnโ€™t want to talk about the waste at all.โ€
The authorities presented information on residue management during the session:
1. The Radiological Impact Assessment completed by NM on the storage of these residues shows them to be safe and pose no risk to the public. However, Lynas has taken the additional safety steps of placing these residues in safe, reliable engineered storage cells that are designed so that there is no possibility for any leakage of material into the environment. These storage cells are monitored and regulated by both Lynas and the AELB to ensure full compliance within the approval conditions.
2. To ensure long term sustainability of our operation, Lynas is committed to convert the residues into safe, saleable industrial products. The two products which do not contain the naturally occurring radiation have been identified for gypsum applications. For the residue containing the low level naturally occurring radiation, Lynas has already embarked on a programme of research and development to use the residue in safe by-products. The R&D is being undertaken together with the local universities, Nuclear Malaysia, and Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organization (Ansto). The progress of this R&D is being reported to the AELB and DoE.
3. What will happen if no application can be found for the residue? Lynas is subjected to strict conditions by the AELB. One of the conditions refers to the end of life of the plant and Lynas must obtain a decommissioning license which includes the safe storage of any of the remaining residues. Lynas has agreed to place funds with the Malaysian government to ensure safe management of any remaining residues as required by the AELB.
โ€œIn the case of a problem during waste handling, an accident, contamination, etc, what will happen? We do not anticipate any problem at all.โ€
We have discussed residue management above. The Lynas Country Manager explained the standard procedure should a container of raw material be involved in an accident causing a spillage. These are standard procedures used by many industries. Remember the Material Safety Data Sheet compiled by independent experts show the Mount Weld raw material is safe, non-toxic and non-hazardous.

With regard to the relocation of the proposed plant โ€“ Lynas was initially directed by MIDA to locate in Kemaman in 2006. Lynas designed the plant for the specific Kemaman location. Lynas obtained all approvals required by the authorities for this location including AELB, DoE and Majlis Perbandaran Kemaman (MPK) approvals. While waiting for the Terengganu government to allocate the land, Malaysian Industrial Development Authority (MIDA) asked Lynas to consider relocating to Gebeng, to which Lynas agreed.

Your statement โ€œRare earth in itself is not dangerous but once you process it, it releases radioacvitve gases and the waste is radioactiveโ€ is incorrect. It is other elements contained within the minerals of the raw material, specifically thorium, which is radioactive. It is the thorium that goes to one of the residues as discussed above. It is for this reason why the starting raw material is so important when processing to produce these products. The fact that the Mount Weld raw material contains such very low levels of thorium makes it safe, non-toxic and non-hazardous.

The Lynas Advanced Materials Plant is designed to the worldโ€™s best practice and meets all of the safety and environmental standards for Malaysia as well as Australian and International standards. The authorities (e.g. AELB and DoE) monitor the operation closely to ensure full compliance.

As noted above, Lynas values and respects the communities in which we operate, and we are happy to answer any questions in relation to the above. We can be reached by email on general@lynascorp.com.

I trust the above clarifies.

Regards,

Dr Matthew James
Corporate Communications

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blackjack
November 5, 2011 8:27 am

yes the good doctor is correct
i have also tried to set the record straight on many occasions however a lot of newspapers dont want to print facts but rather sensational stories that predict doom and gloom
lets not forget also that Malaysia was screaming out for investors, jobs, new skills and they will get them through Lynas (possibly Siemens and BASF)
I hold Lynas and they are well placed and have the orders and associates to get to market first
IMO they also can buy from other companies the necessary dirt to increase their HREE’s
IMO companies that announce theyve found REE’s now will never get them to market as this takes big money – they are pure spec punts
although i have has issues with Lynas Management I feel confident in saying that they will be one of the first to market outside of China
good luck all

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November 5, 2011 8:43 am

also just read this http://www.techmetalsresearch.com/2011/11/the-ncpa-conference-on-rare-earths-and-national-security/
IMO if the US Senate is looking for reliable REE trading partners then Australia is a good choice
Also “One note of interest that came out of it, was that the recently passed law that governs the National Defense Stockpile (which does not as yet include rare earths), requires that the President of the United States, and only the President, be authorized to release materials from the Stockpile.”
It is almost certain that REE’s will be added to the stockpile sooner than later.

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cooleenman
cooleenman
November 6, 2011 6:07 pm

Reading all of this discussion has been most interesting. Having been attracted to rems some time ago I briefly invested in greenland minerals having “gumshoed” myself before I knew of the real gumshoe. Before reading this the whole field looked very dodgy, it now looks somewhat more investible, depending.

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blackjack
blackjack
April 5, 2012 3:03 am

Get an education and get the politics out of the Lynas rare earths issue
see it for what it is

the court hearing was put into a “break” by the plaintiffs
LYNAS wanted its day in court to give facts and were delayed yet again

If you want to see what is done with the REE process and the “waste” as they call it

watch this http://www.mobtv.my/public_events-1131.html

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blackjack
blackjack
June 9, 2012 9:05 am

whats happened to RPAUL
he was going to write a few more blogs
Anyway I dont know if people are aware that Lynas has built and has done some pre commissioning of its processing plant (LAMP) over 700 million $ WORTH.
However, Lynas are waiting on the issuing of the pre operating license POL now changed to the temp operating license TOL. No concentrate can go though the plant as the license hasnt been issued, although approved years ago.
The issuing of the 3 licenses has become a political football now and the Minister was to make an announcement last week on whether the TOL will be issued and whether complaints from 3 local Malaysians will be dismissed or upheld.
The IAEA and the Malaysian AELB and the PM have issued statements that the LAMP is safe however a radical group made political issue out of the LAMP by showing pics of deformed babies and people dying of cancer. 42 NGO’s and various other individuals now have to front court and make retractions.
The shorters are making a mint on this as every week shareholders swear its going to get the TOL and every week it does not.
So at less than a dollar and with a small risk this looks like a bargain.
On the 12th the PSC in Malaysia will table its report and it will be debated on the 19th June 2012 but the Minister has said he doesnt need to wait for this and can make a decision sooner.
I think RPaul is right in saying that when dealing with rare earths and trying to explain it to another will get blank faces and no replies as politicians havent got a clue what they are dealing with.
So with Lynas its very frustrating as no one including the CEO knows whats going on.
BTW stage 2 of the LAMP has started and it is believed this is for heavies
Perhaps RPaul and his connections know something?

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blackjack
June 19, 2012 3:13 am

well the Malay parliament has been told by its special committee (PSC) that there is no reason to not issue the temporary operating license (TOL). Now it looks like some rubber stamping and then Lynas can import the concentrate into their LAMP.
Share price before any of this happened was over $2.20 and then TOL issues and GREEN issues tanked the share price to 88 cents. As of today the SP is approx $1 and the OS markets havent opened yet. A big run up is expected now however getting in at one dollar seems prudent now.
good luck all

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