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First Steps and Favorite Tools for New Investors

How do you find, learn about, and keep on top of your investments?

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, November 18, 2014

I get asked “how do I start investing” questions quite frequently, and also questions about what kinds of online (or other) tools I use to research stocks — so I thought I’d start the discussion about this by sharing a few of my favorite things.

First, if you have never invested before and don’t think you understand what a stock is or how it trades or why there’s a stock market, take your time. Read a couple books (my favorites — easy reads for people who’ve never traded before — are The Little Book that Beats the Market and One Up on Wall Street).

ToolsSecond, don’t buy or trade individual stocks unless you find it interesting. This is a hobby, and it can be a profitable one, but there’s no point in doing it unless you like learning about companies or trading techniques and like to follow individual stocks. If you don’t, there’s nothing wrong with buying low-cost index funds or, if you’re a little bit interested, selecting some favorite sectors or better active managers (they still have to be cheap) to see if you can beat the market by a little bit. You’re not likely to get rich trading stocks, so if it’s not a pleasurable experience for you — don’t do it. Investing in the stock market is an important and relatively easy way to get a return on your nest egg that beats inflation, but investing in stocks is far riskier than investing in the stock market.

Once you’ve decided to invest, how do you find stocks or keep learning or what tools do you use? I’ll list a few of my favorite sources and tools, and hopefully others will chime in:

Charting and data:
I’m not a technical trader or chartist, but charts are an excellent visual way to scan the history of a company. I like YCharts for this because I can graph companies’ fundamentals — the history of their price/book valuation, the history of their ROE, or hundreds of other metrics — and compare them to other companies. Even the inexpensive version of Ycharts is fairly expensive ($40 a month, I think, they have a free trial), but I invest in YCharts because I need something better than the free data sources but more accessible and affordable than a Bloomberg terminal, and this is the best I’ve found for that middle ground. This is my go-to source for historical data as well, it’s very useful to be able to look at ten years of a company’s revenue, expenses, balance sheet, etc. When I look at a new stock, I try to take at least a quick look at their historical financials before I learn the “story” of the company — if you see that a company has not grown in ten years, you might interpret the story of their fantastic growth prospects differently. Morningstar is my favorite “less expensive” source of data, though you have to pay a bit (much less than YCharts) to go back more than five years.

Screening:
YCharts is also my favorite screening tool, though the best version of it is not free. Morningstar also has excellent screening tools (also better for the paid version). There are many free screening tools on the web as well, nearly every financial portal site (Yahoo Finance is the most popular) has one, so try those first — they will meet many needs.

News:
I try to read the Wall Street Journal and Financial Times and Barron’s frequently, just to keep a handle on what the overall sentiment is and get some variety of perspective. If you have a focus on a particular sector, you’ll likely find that industry news sources/websites (what we used to call “trade journals”) provide better coverage and are worth browsing from time to time. I browse SeekingAlpha sometimes for ideas and perspective (keeping in mind that it’s mostly opinion — always read both bear and bull arguments about a stock if you can), as well as Yahoo Finance and Marketwatch when I have time to browse.

I keep Google search alerts on all the companies I’m interested in to help me pull in as many data points as possible. I also use both Yahoo price alerts and YCharts alerts when I find companies that I’m interested in but where I don’t like the price — Yahoo will email you when ticker XYZ hits a specific price, YCharts will alert you when any number of data points changes for a favored stock.

Managing Information:
Once you have a portfolio of a few companies, and are researching a dozen others for possible investment, it becomes difficult to keep track of what you’re learning. I like to use Evernote to manage this, it is a fantastic free (also a paid version) clipping service that lets you “clip” articles or full web pages and tag them (with a ticker, or keywords) and keep them in folders if you choose — then it’s all both organized and very searchable so you can find that great article that you vaguely remember from six weeks ago. You can also forward emails to your Evernote account, and they’ll be saved and organized in the same way.

That’s just a quick note to get this process started, I’ll add to it as I think of other tools or sources and would appreciate it if readers would share their own thoughts or favorites with a comment below — thanks!

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SoGiAm
March 15, 2015 2:00 pm

Dangerb brought awareness this site in the Zed Files thread of which I am now a free subscriber: http://stockreversals.com/ Best2ALL!-Benjamin

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SoGiAm
March 15, 2015 2:33 pm

Along these lines Doc what journals would you consider the best and most trusted for data release and publication? Cheers,Glenn
Dr. KSS, MD PhDDr. KSS, MD PhD, author of this article, says: March 15, 2015 at 2:04 pm
I think NEJM isn’t bad nowadays, and that Science, Nature, The Lancet and the BMJ are excellent. Those are general. Within each specialty there are 1-2 incorruptible journals and then many lesser ones. Many will be excellent for a few years with a new editor, and then deteriorate when s/he is replaced. Annals of Internal Medicine was once one of the best, and is now among the very worst. JAMA is appalling and always has been. Within liver disease, Hepatology is king. Within GI, Gastroenterology is without question the best. Because cardiology is vast and expansive, it has more good journals in it than any other speciality. Most of them are given independent quality ratings and impact factors. When you get out of the top 10 percentile journals, be careful. http://www.nejm.org/ Best2ALL!-Benjamin

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SoGiAm
March 15, 2015 5:18 pm
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SoGiAm
March 25, 2015 1:42 am

Roadshow for individual investors seeking information about public offerings (IPOs): http://www.retailroadshow.com/wp/index.asp Pretty kewl, I believe 🙂 Thanks Om Best2ALL!-Benjamim

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SoGiAm
February 27, 2016 10:40 am
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2 Ways How to Buy IPO Stocks before First Day of Trading: http://www.nanalyze.com/2016/01/2-ways-how-to-buy-ipo-stocks-before-first-day-of-trading/ This article covers two brokerages with different themes: Motif and Loyal3.
About Nanalyze – Nanalyze provides objective information about companies involved in disruptive technologies so that investors can make informed investment decisions…
Nanalyze currently has major affiliate relationships with Interactive Brokers, Motif Investing, and CB Insights. These are platforms we use ourselves and highly recommend. We also have minor affiliate relationships with 23andMe and Ancestry.com. Best2You-Ben

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hipockets
April 1, 2015 10:14 pm

HOW TO CREATE A SHORT URL

For those not familiar with URLs, “URL” is an abbreviation of “Uniform Resource Locator” and a URL acts as an “address” for a web page. Some URLs are so long that it’s not practical to post them on a website. The humongous 2,094 character URL ( an address for a Yahoo chart of CELG ) at the end of this post is a good example.

Long URLs can be reduced to a space-saving alias by using the web site http://tinyurl.com/ .

To create a short URL, copy the URL, making certain that the full URL is copied. Then go to the tinyurl site and paste the long URL into the box beneath the phrase “Enter a long URL to make tiny:” . Don’t worry about the box not being large enough to accept the long URL. It will accept it but most of the URL will be hidden. Then click on “Make Tiny URL”. A new page will open and the long URL will be displayed. Underneath it will be the URL alias which can be copied and pasted into other documents.

Using this procedure, the CELG chart URL below is shortened to
http://tinyurl.com/qzbdhyw.

It’s possible to create your own URL alias on tinyurl. Beneath the box mentioned above is the phrase “Custom alias (optional): ” and underneath that phrase is another box. You can try to create your own version by entering any combination of letters in that box. If the combination has not been used previously, you will be successful. If it has been used, you can try something similar. There seems to be no limit to the number of characters that can be used. For example, http : //tinyurl.com/CELG was already in use, but
http://tinyurl.com/CELGCHART was not.

WARNING Do not click on shortened URLs unless you trust the site and/or the author. It is possible to create a shortened URL that will take you to a malicious site that can install all sorts of malware on your computer. This applies to all providers of shortened URLs, such as bitly.com and shorturl.com. If you want to find out where a shortened URL takes you, you can use http://longurl.org/ or http://checkshorturl.com/ .

Here’s that humongous URL: http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=CELG+Interactive#{%22range%22%3A%221y%22%2C%22indicators%22%3A{%22ema%22%3A[{%22id%22%3A%22ema20%22%2C%22name%22%3A%22ema%22%2C%22params%22%3A[20]%2C%22lineType%22%3A%22line%22%2C%22color%22%3A%22%23ff00ff%22%2C%22weight%22%3A1}%2C{%22id%22%3A%22ema50%22%2C%22name%22%3A%22ema%22%2C%22params%22%3A[50]%2C%22lineType%22%3A%22line%22%2C%22color%22%3A%22%23f1c232%22%2C%22weight%22%3A1}%2C{%22id%22%3A%22ema200%22%2C%22name%22%3A%22ema%22%2C%22params%22%3A[200]%2C%22lineType%22%3A%22line%22%2C%22color%22%3A%22%2300ffff%22%2C%22weight%22%3A1}]%2C%22bollinger%22%3A[{%22id%22%3A[%22bollinger_upper%22%2C%22bollinger_lower%22]%2C%22name%22%3A%22bollinger%22%2C%22subLines%22%3A[%22upper%22%2C%22lower%22]%2C%22lineType%22%3A{%22upper%22%3A%22line%22%2C%22lower%22%3A%22line%22}%2C%22color%22%3A{%22bollinger_upper%22%3A%22%23999999%22%2C%22bollinger_lower%22%3A%22%23999999%22}%2C%22weight%22%3A{%22bollinger_upper%22%3A1%2C%22bollinger_lower%22%3A1}%2C%22params%22%3A[20%2C2]}]%2C%22rsi%22%3A[{%22id%22%3A%22rsi14%22%2C%22name%22%3A%22rsi%22%2C%22params%22%3A[14]%2C%22lineType%22%3A%22line%22%2C%22color%22%3A%22%23cc4125%22%2C%22weight%22%3A1}]%2C%22macd%22%3A[{%22id%22%3A[%22macd_divergence%22%2C%22macd%22%2C%22macd_signal%22]%2C%22name%22%3A%22macd%22%2C%22subLines%22%3A[%22divergence%22%2C%22macd%22%2C%22signal%22]%2C%22lineType%22%3A{%22divergence%22%3A%22column%22%2C%22macd%22%3A%22line%22%2C%22signal%22%3A%22line%22}%2C%22color%22%3A{%22macd_divergence%22%3A%22%23ff0000%22%2C%22macd%22%3A%22%239fc5e8%22%2C%22macd_signal%22%3A%22%23f1c232%22}%2C%22weight%22%3A{%22macd%22%3A1%2C%22macd_signal%22%3A1}%2C%22params%22%3A[26%2C12%2C9]}]%2C%22stoch%22%3A[{%22id%22%3A[%22%22%2C%22stoch_k%22%2C%22stoch_d%22]%2C%22name%22%3A%22stoch%22%2C%22subLines%22%3A[%22%22%2C%22k%22%2C%22d%22]%2C%22lineType%22%3A{%22k%22%3A%22line%22%2C%22d%22%3A%22line%22}%2C%22color%22%3A{%22stoch_k%22%3A%22%23e69138%22%2C%22stoch_d%22%3A%22%2300ff00%22}%2C%22weight%22%3A{%22stoch_k%22%3A1%2C%22stoch_d%22%3A1}%2C%22params%22%3A[14%2C1%2C3]}]}%2C%22scale%22%3A%22linear%22}

Truly humongous, isn’t it? 🙂 Thanks to sogiam for suggesting this post.

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SoGiAm
April 1, 2015 11:50 pm
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TINYURL-We appreciate the lesson and you for sharing many gifts with us HiPockets.-Ben

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SoGiAm
April 3, 2015 10:08 am
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Hi Pockets and others – Is there a similar tool available to compress and convert e-mails to URLS? Sure would be handy 😉 Best-Ben

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hipockets
April 3, 2015 4:42 pm
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RE: emails to URLS– I know of no way to convert emails directly to URLs. You could copy the emails and paste them into a Word / Wordpad document for searching. If you paste them into a Word document, you could bookmark each email in the document. It makes more sense, though, to just keep a copy of the emails.

Most email clients, even Google, have the capability of making folders inside the client for sorting emails. It is usually possible to have incoming emails automatically sent to a specific folder, based on the complete subject, part of the subject, the sender, or a combination of both. For example, an email from Travis with the subject “A new comment from Stock Gumshoe about GILD” could be sent to a folder named “Travis” or “Gumshoe” or “GILD”. Or a copy could be sent to all three. Google does not seem to have the filtering mechanism.

I use Thunderbird from Mozilla. It has a tabbed interface and many other features. .

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Gary Fox
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April 3, 2015 4:56 pm

yahoo has the filtering. Click the email of interest, then use the down caret at the MORE tab to the R of delete/move/spam, then chose “Filter e-mails like this.” I usually do it by sender only (all from xyz@morefreedollars.org), not title or “to”. Just follow the prompts to direct to an already existing folder or create a new one. (Don’t know much about stocks but this I do know how to do.)

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Gary Fox
April 3, 2015 5:00 pm

G-mail it’s the same. To the R of Trash/move/labels, there is a MORE option. Click the caret, “Filter messages like these”….

SoGiAm
April 9, 2015 10:14 am

Interactive Brokers – interactivebrokers.com -Thanks for the very informative write up Benny, I use them as well and there are other Irregulars who have accounts with them. I have not seen any negative comments (in the last six-months) on stockgumshoe.com: Hi Cyndy: I also used TD Direct (aka NatWest Bank). It was v expensive, and simplistic software, but I still have an ISA with them coz theres little choice. I objected to paying £12.5 per online UK trade or £25+ for anywhere else in the world. As for the cost of using their brokers to do a trade….sheesh! Currency conversion was 1.5% in and out above FX.
So I opened an a/c with Interactive Brokers. I was simple but lengthy coz TD had to transfer my holdings across….too expensive to sell and re-buy. You fill in an online application form plus a W4 Ben form for the US/UK tax man. You are charged a witholding tax of 10% on any dividends, which is deducted at source (and maybe profits if any) The US tax is off set against UK income taxes automatically. Not sure about Capital Gains Tax. (talk to an advisor coz you cant reclaim it if using an ISA).
So, now Im with Interactive Brokers….. OMG what a difference. Im usually charged just $1.50 per trade (sometimes less!!). The account can be funded in almost any currency. It seems there is NO charge for currency conversion….basically you trade the currency pair on the FOREX at what ever prevailing rate….so, like all trading, timing helps you profit. The software is infinitely better, although much more complex to learn. I use Web Trader which is the most basic. But there are some nasty traps to learn to avoid: I owned 1000 shares $abc @ $10 and set a stop loss at $9; later I sold at $9.5. To my horror the stoploss is NOT linked to your shares, so, after you manually sell, the stop sits in the order list as a short !!! I ended up owning -1000 @ $9. I wondered what that minus sign was all about but ignored it. Derhh !!!! Even then it was confusing as I bought another 1000 at $9.50 only to find I had no position at all (the buy/sell cancelled each other out) but my a/c was down $500 !!!
Still there are some excellent features like a trailing stop (which is linked to the purchase) TD dont have this. Theres also a way to place an order at say $10 on a stock thats presently only $9.50. That way on semi binary events, if its a winner you get in @ arount $9.50, and if its a loser and never reaches $10, you never get in. Its not quite that simple but thats the general idea.
Theres also a international free phone num and the staff are quick, knowledgable and v helpful. They have a mad security system that involves them mailing you a plastic card (which is one reason it takes time to set the a/c up). The card translates your P/W into a different unique daily code. I find this a chore, so I turned it off, but then security becomes my responsibility if you a/c gets hacked; but I retained their system for account changes/money transfers. Money can only be transerred out to the Bank a/c it originally came from.All in all, I recco IB to you (Disclaimer: Do your own DD of course). Happy to provide any other answers. GL Best2ALL!-Benjamin

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SoGiAm
April 9, 2015 12:07 pm

ETF’s Provided by Hi Pockets – 🙂 1 awesome post dude for the Irregualar’s tool box:
Hi Pockets says: April 8, 2015 at 8:25 pm
Frank, thanks for bringing the website http://www.etf.com/ and http://etfdb.com/ to our attention. They are the best all-around sites for ETF information I’ve seen. Some highlights: 30 minute video tutorial: http://www.etf.com/webinars/ETFs101/player.html
Etf.com has about 40 informatory articles, such as How Do You Choose The Right ETF , What Risks Are There In ETFs , and Understanding Premiums and Discounts .
Etfdb.com has about 80 articles, such as http://etfdb.com/etf-education/how-etf-and-mutual-fund-expenses-stack-up/ and http://etfdb.com/etf-education/five-questions-to-ask-when-buying-an-etf-2/ .
ETF screeners: http://www.etf.com/etfanalytics/etf-finder and http://www.etf.com/etfanalytics/etf-finder Best2ALL!_Benjamin

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SoGiAm
April 11, 2015 8:11 am

Biotuesday.com Is searchable biotech website that provides a free weekly newsletter. A recent example is CLDN- H.C. Wainwright has initiated coverage of Celladon (NASDAQ:CLDN) with a “buy” rating and price target of $31. The stock closed at $17.79 on Monday.
Celladon is focused on developing gene therapy to treat congestive heart failure (CHF), generally referred to as heart failure. The company’s primary driver, MYDICAR, is a gene therapy treatment for advanced systolic heart failure. Specifically, the therapy increases SERCA2a enzyme, a deficiency that develops in all heart failures irrespective of etiology.
buy initiation“Thus far, we believe that the clinical trial results are impressive—demonstrating statistically significantly improved outcomes,” writes analyst Ching-Yi Lin.
MYDICAR has been granted breakthrough therapy designation and expects to report Phase 2b data from the CUPID 2 trial later this month. “We believe Celladon will report positive results when CUPID 2 data are released in April, and the stock could see further upside,” Ms. Lin said, adding that she sees MYDICAR as a transformational approach to treating systolic heart failure.
Ms. Lin said MYDICAR addresses an unmet need for advanced-stage CHF where current standard of care is inadequate. “As such, we estimate MYDICAR’s target market represents 350,000 potential patients in the U.S. and 500,000 in Europe, a market potential translating to $18-billion in the U.S. and $17-billion in Europe.
Best2All-Benjamin

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arch1
April 11, 2015 12:37 pm
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Ben Using those figures and if Mydicar is a one dose treatment that translates to them pricing above $40,000. Per patient. Add 1/2 to double that figure for the Dr. hospital care and etc. I think range per patient would be $60,000 to $120,000.,,,,,does make one wonder where the money will be gotten. ,frank

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SoGiAm
April 11, 2015 1:06 pm

The Pew Trusts orginization website: http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/ provided by eyedoc on the current biotech tread. A recent example regarding AKAO, MDCO and others at 12/31/15 Antibiotics in clinical development and/or approved is here: http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/multimedia/data-visualizations/2014/antibiotics-currently-in-clinical-development A fascinating, rich in content site IMHO. Thanks eyedoc 🙂 Best2ALL!-Benjamin

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SoGiAm
April 21, 2015 6:03 am

SEC Compliance Form 13 et.al. post regarding and helpful link (info.) :
glenn newberry says: April 21, 2015 at 3:53 am
Hi DLH, these SEC filings can get confusing at times. When reading some of these 13D and 13G filings that I do not understand I revert back to this site which I keep on my favorites on my laptop and it answers a lot of questions about these 13D and 13G filings. Hope this is helpful to you.
http://www.ria-compliance-consultants.com/form13f_section_13d_schedule_13g.html#11
Cheers,Glenn Thanks Glenn, Best2ALL!-Benjamin

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SoGiAm
April 23, 2015 8:07 am

The following site was shared by Greenfire57 relating to ZFGN options: http: //www.theocc.com/market-data/series/new-listings/ Greenfire57, may you illuminate us on use of this site. Thanking you in advance-Ben

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alanS
alanS
April 26, 2015 1:09 pm
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This link is not working for me. Is it accurate?
Alan

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SoGiAm
April 26, 2015 2:31 pm
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Alan, Try this: http://www.theocc.com/market-data/series/new-listings/
I notice that ONCE got added. Best2ALL!-Benjamin

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SoGiAm
April 26, 2015 9:33 am

I have created a dropbox account for sharing research and analyst reports. Please use this as a repository. Here are the account details. If necessary send it to me and I’ll be happy to add things on your behalf. I have already created a folder for ARTH and most of the other companies that we follow. Once the report is uploaded, we can generate a share web link that can be posted at gumshoe website.

http://www.dropbox.com
user name: stock.gumshoe.com
pswd: ForAllGummies

thanks
Anshuman Thank you Anshuman! Best2aALL!-Benjamin

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jking1939
jking1939
April 26, 2015 10:51 am
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Benjamin re: $NVO and $GNFTF

This is from PropThink: http://propthink.com/unexpected-nash-player-emerges-in-novo-nordisk/

I have been to the drop box…Wow! You are a wonderful person! I wasn’t certain how to enter the above information, but will learn. Once again, thank you.

jk

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SoGiAm
April 26, 2015 11:17 am
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$NVO & $GNFTF Thanks John…I believe in treating others as I’d like to be treated and know that being on a yacht in the caribbean would be no fun at all without my friend 🙂 Best-Ben

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SoGiAm
May 15, 2015 11:20 pm

Author: lawrence mckenna Comment: RE: Great tool
Here is a handy link that enables us to quickly access the latest Quarterly Report (Form 10K) for any public company. After you open the link, just type in the stock symbol – and the 10K pops up quickly:

http://www.quick10qk.com/quickqk/instantq/
Thanks Lawrence, this is handy. Best-Ben

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SoGiAm
June 7, 2015 9:02 am

A fellow Irregular brought awareness of this site and their new applications and reports that may be worth our time evaluating: http://evaluategroup.com/default.aspx
>>>—Best2ALL!-Benjamin—->

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Rosenmeyer
Rosenmeyer
June 11, 2015 8:07 am

benny sent you an e-mail

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jomcintyre
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June 11, 2015 12:12 pm

This is a reply to Benny Hill’s note asking when and how we make decisions to sell a stock. Here’s my decision matrix – admittedly emotional, feminine, and erratic. But then, I’m a woman, what would you expect?
Anyway, sell signals
1) when I get mad at a company (price not doing what I expect, price sliding when the market isn’t, management seems not to care or otherwise appears to be clueless, etc.).
2) CEO doesn’t seem to understand what s/he is doing – speeches and letters in annual reports are gibberish – no clear statement of management philosophy or understanding of exactly what the company’s product or service is.
3) Some strange particular event occurs – mainly a buyout rumor that causes a major price spike, then I sell immediately. Major price drop – not so much, but I will keep a closer eye on the company. Is the market stupid? or am I? If the drop continues or price stays down, I will eventually sell.
Agree, Alan, that it is harder to sell b/c there is so much emotion involved – want my judgment to be right all the time, still love the company or CEO or both.
See my blog: InvestingForOne.com for details ad nauseum. My blog is intended for older, single women who appear to be too scared to invest on their own, but put all their faith in an advisor and mutual funds. I want them to stop and think for themselves. That’s a harder job than you might think. 😉

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SoGiAm
June 11, 2015 12:17 pm
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Thanks Jo…maybe not be too hard if ya get the Gummunity after ’em 🙂 Best2Ya-Ben

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SoGiAm
May 2, 2016 6:58 pm
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Vetr free site with dashboard, community, newsfeed, create list, post links: https://www.vetr.com/home/dashboard

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alanh
June 13, 2015 6:31 pm
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Jo (you tricky little puss): Dont try that ‘Im just a (dumn blonde ) weak woman’ act with me, coz it dont wash anymore. You gals wanted equality when, in reality, you already had superiority by the back door ! The dumb blonde act used to be your advantage (and I have 2 blonde divorces where I lost mega money to prove it) Now, instead of deference, youve down graded yourselves to mere equality. Ive long thought that promoting gender/race issues, simply served to re-inforce a divide. If we all stopped citing the (supposed) differences, maybe we’d all stop being ‘different’. Isnt that what you want?
Back to the subject: I know as well as anyone when to sell (which is not very knowlegable) There are no rules coz everyone has a diffent motivation. My aim was to help the newbies to reallize that following these threads religiously, and feeling that backing out was some sort of betrayal, was a serious mistake. I wanted the intelligencia here, to tell them that they are happy to take 10, 20,200% when its on offer, rather than to hold to the bitter end. Thats all.

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alanh
June 13, 2015 7:09 pm

Geoko: Not exactly sure what your underlying question is. Surface level: You can set a price to enter a position on IB by setting a stop…that doesnt just work to get you out, it also works to get you in. So if the stock is at $1 but you dont wanna enter untill (and if) it hits $1.5 you set a $1.50 stop. Why do you wanna do this? Well I do it when a stock is falling with the hope of recovery. I certainly dont wanna buy if it keeps going south ! But if it bounces back….maybe !
Theres also a stop limit….this works by geting you in at a defined $ price, but if it gaps past that price, you wont get in. The stop limit says ‘I wanna buy at (say) $1, but I’ll go to $2. Youll get in IF it ever trades somewhere between. Its real tricky to hit a price on bio. If FDA approval happens on a stock trading yesterday at $1, it may open at $4. Thats where the stop limit ‘helps’. Then theres also a bracket order…dont get me started!!
If you need someting more specific, just ask.

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alanh
June 13, 2015 7:18 pm
Reply to  alanh

Geoko: I like to trade the 1 month ish moving avg. So if its headed south, I place a bet at the MA to catch a bounce (or avoid it completely if it continues south). I see no point in trying to predict a bounce….using a stop buy, if it happens, Im in…if it doesnt….Im out.
Hope that makes sense?

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hendrixnuzzles
June 13, 2015 9:15 pm

I was reading about trading, don’t remember the author, but he made the statement that if you take two traders who listen to each other, you wind up with the worst traits of each
in the decision process.

I say this not to discourage people from listening to others, but to emphasize that everyone needs to be very clear in their own minds why they are persuaded, and what their objectives and strategies are ( long term or short term, day trader/investor, price targets/stops, etc).

The main problem is that if you buy or sell based solely on someone else’s say-so
without really understanding the reasons, your opinion and emotions will be easily whipsawed. Even on Doc’s reco’s, it’s very important to understand and be persuaded
of his logic so you can have some confidence when things go against you.

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SoGiAm
June 13, 2015 11:46 pm
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

HN-May you please expound on this statement by our presently anonymous author, either here, SDRR thread or via e-mail?
Certainly, due diligence is required but more eyeballs and grey matter on a subject creates synergies. I do not believe that doc’s purpose on these threads is to persuade but to educate, enlighten, debunk myths and untruths thereby enlightening us to become better investors. Thanks-Ben

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