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A NEW COLUMN BY DR. PETER TILTON, PSYCHIATRIST

By ptilton45, January 23, 2015

[ed. note: This is an introductory piece from longtime reader Peter Tilton, who has proposed writing a regular column for Stock Gumshoe readers about psychiatry. Not an investing topic (though the behavior of many of us in the markets may well be something that’s in need of a diagnosis), but we thought you might find it interesting. Please share any feedback either in the comments below or on our contact page — we’d like to know if you’re interested in reading more of Peter’s work. Thanks!]

In my first article of Psychiatry Simplified, I’d like to start with what modern day psychiatry is about. Simple. Diagnosing and treating mental illness with medication. But before delving further, Iโ€™d like to tell you a bit about my medical career. I have been a psychiatrist for 20 years. Before that I worked in primary care in many varied capacitiesโ€”free clinics in the 1970โ€™s, emergency rooms, private practice and a holistic medical practice. As a psychiatrist I have worked in private practice, alone and in a large private multi-specialty clinic. I have done forensic work and treated workers’ compensation patients. But for most of my career I have worked in the public sector, inpatient and outpatient. For ten years I worked in a county outpatient childrenโ€™s clinic and spent some time at a county juvenile hall and boys’ camp. I have treated adults in a small acute inpatient hospital and have worked in several types of outpatient clinics as well as a crisis outpatient center. If I have a specialty, it is treating severe, chronic and persistent mentally ill patients with psychotic disorders (schizophrenia, etc.) and mood disorders (bipolar disorder, etc.) with medication. That is not to say that I donโ€™t use psychotherapy in various forms with my patients. While in private practice I treated people with short term (brief, paradoxical, hypnotherapy, etc.) and long term psychoanalytical psychotherapy based on Heinz Kohutโ€™s self psychology model.

In the public sector my main role, besides taking part in team meetings and decisions, is diagnosing and treating my patients with medication. I am very conservative, meaning I try to use the least amount of medications needed. While polypharmacy (using more than one medication) is more the rule these days, I try to limit this approach. On the other hand, I am also very aggressive in that I will do what it takes once I start, meaning I will continue to raise the dose based on symptom relief versus emerging side effectsโ€”a risk/benefit approach. I am not averse to adding medications, but unlike many of my colleagues, I also take away medications or lower a dose when warranted. I must admit that there have been times when I have lowered a dose or stopped a medication and discovered my mistake by the reemerging of symptoms.

I have also had the privilege of working as a psychiatrist in New Zealand, both north and south islands.

Psychiatry is different than all other fields of medicine in that we have no lab tests, scans, x-rays or procedures that accurately help us with a diagnosis. No fracture on an x-ray, tumor on a scan, positive urine culture and sensitivity to guide us in our treatments. There are, in the domain of psychology, tests like the MMPI, etc., which can be used for diagnosis, but I believe a thorough history in a one-to-one situation to be the most accurate way to obtain a diagnosis and overview of the person seeking treatment. Add that to input of any family members or friends and the picture becomes more accurate. The information gathered goes into a sort of thinkolator (after all, this is a Gumshoe website) and out comes a working diagnosis.

In psychiatry this thinkolator is most often the DSM-V (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual), the bible of psychiatry for much of the worldโ€”although many use the ICD 10 (International Classification of Diseases) and there is good correlation between these two sources.

While the DSM offers brilliant descriptions of mental disorders and lists the criteria for making a diagnosis, there are problems. There is not universal agreement among the members of each work group and politics (surprised?) plays a part in what gets included and what does not. What is missing is the possible origin or cause of the current symptoms or disorder. “Why now” doesnโ€™t matter. It is the constellation of symptoms that does. Another way of putting it: does the patient have the requisite number of symptoms to be given a diagnosis, letโ€™s say having met 5 criteria out of a list of 9 needed to make the diagnosis of major depression? If a person fails to meet the criteria, the DSM offers an NOS diagnosis. NOS means not otherwise specified. Meaning if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, but may not quack like a duck, it is still a duck. Sort of. It is a Duck NOS. This can be helpful in what is known as a spectrum disorder. There are some symptoms suggestive of the disorder but not the full blown picture. This is very common in todayโ€™s literature regarding bipolar disorder and autistic disorders.

So, getting back to making a diagnosis and deciding upon treatment, a well-trained clinician will ask, โ€œWhy now?โ€ And that should include why are you now coming in for treatment, and what if anything has happened recently in your life to cause (whatever the symptoms are). Using the example of depressive symptoms, what led to the symptoms should lead to treatment considerations. If Iโ€™m presented with a patient with an adjustment disorder with depressed mood, I need to understand the source of the stressorโ€”this is paramount to deciding on treatment, and most often some type of psychotherapy is tantamount to successful treatment. Antidepressant medication may or may not be needed, and a short term prescription for anxiety or insomnia may be needed, because reduction of symptoms is a major goal and sleep a must, as is freedom from anxiety.

Iโ€™ll go into depression and all other mental disorders in later articles. Depression was only used here to show the complexities of psychiatry.

Now, unlike the great Dr. KSS, who imparts his MD and PhD knowledge to enlighten us about investment opportunities, I will not. Mainly because, if I did… well it would be like the blind leading those who can see. I am no expert in giving investment advice.

However, I will disclose that I have been a paid speaker and consultant for Pfizer, Novartis and Forest, but have only presented talks about medications I have used and felt were beneficial and among the best in their class. In future, I will only refer to medications by their generic names. When appropriate I will mention any company that is part of my portfolio.

Also, I cannot give the kind of medical guidance, often so brilliantly offered by Dr. KSS. One, because I cannot be sure that whomever you asking about has been diagnosed accurately. Basically, I trust no one but myself. That is not to say the diagnosis is not correctโ€”I just have no way to corroborate it. Two, prescribing for mental disorders is not (sometimes) as simple as other medical conditions and the results may not be seen for weeks. I will be happy to answer some general questions about treatment, symptoms, medications, side effects, etc. but I expect you to do your own research first. Google or Bing or Yahoo will be happy to help you with general questions. And finally, absent the intimate doctor-patient dyad (therapeutic, placebo, luck, etc.) I can be of little personal help.

In these columns I will attempt to simplify what is known and probably ignore what is not practical for todayโ€™s treatment options. While there may be tests available (like assessing serotonin transporter genomes) they are not in everyday use and as yet donโ€™t prove who will or will not respond to antidepressants that presumably work on the serotonin system. When it comes to medications, I can tell you now, no matter what you read or think, no one actually knows how and why most psychotropic medications work. Yes, it is known that medications work on specific receptor site as agonists, antagonists, etc., but that is not necessarily the whole story. I will talk less about the arcane science, since I am not a researcher, but will discuss what I think to be relevant. In this way I will attempt to offer you Psychiatry Simplified.

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chibana
chibana
January 25, 2015 7:53 am

Peter,
Thanks for sharing your great insight. Very informative. Mental illness can be so devastating to friends, family and co-workers of the patient as well. I am very grateful for those that serve in the critical field of psychiatry. On another note in the Army we worked very hard to try and determine early signs of suicide and try to get our Soldiers to professional help ASAP. Often signs of depression were early indicators. Military gets a bad rap in my view when suicides are reported since we have such a large young average population placed often in incredibly stressful situations. Even one suicide is to many and certainly not limited to young adults but….still easy to miss early warning signals. Not your specific topic I know but again thanks for writing this article and for everything you do in your important field.
V/R
Tom

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archives2001
archives2001
January 25, 2015 8:35 am
Reply to  chibana

Peter and Travis:
Thank you both so much for this needed addition to Stock Gumshoe!
Psychiatry/Psychology and health go hand in hand with economics and
are an essential segment.
And when I state health, I especially mean nutrition, body, mind, and spirit.
Now Peter, taking this a step further, I’ve been doing a lot of reading on the
subject of probiotics and prebiotics which science has known little about
until a few years ago when they suddenly realized just how important a part
that microbes play in health and disease. (Especially mental health.)

Here is a clip that I would very much like to get your feedback on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyaGnTWrrZw

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archives2001
archives2001
January 26, 2015 2:23 pm
Reply to  ptilton45

Peter,
I read that book too about 25 yrs ago…
Still one of the most important books in my library.
Right along side of orthomolecular books by
Linus Pauling, Jonathan Wright, Carl Pfeiffer, Abram Hoffer.

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Michael Isaacs
January 25, 2015 8:17 am

I think we may be straying too far from our core interests here, Lets keep the focus of Stock Gumshoe on the investing universe and leave medical issues such as Psychiatry to other media.

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archives2001
archives2001
January 25, 2015 8:24 am
Reply to  Michael Isaacs

Sorry, Mike…
I emphatically disagree with you.
Medical AND HEALTH issues should be discussed here most definitely!
HEALTH is an ESSENTIAL footing of Economics!!!!

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chrisgoodwin
chrisgoodwin
January 25, 2015 9:09 am
Reply to  archives2001

Dear David,
I appreciate your emphasis, but the degreee of your conviction is not an argument,
You say “HEALTH is an ESSENTIAL footing of Economics!!!!” – but itis not obviouswhat you mean by this. What is a “footing” ? Is it a “foundation” ? And if so, in what way, what sense ?
Health is essential for life: failing health is indicative of life risk, and so health underpins economics, art, work, philosophy, religion, crime, war, sin, and rice crispies. (Disclosure: I do not own shares in any cereal company.) A long term patient in a Hospital or nursing home might decide to use their time there to read up on economics, especially if they are in a nut house, (many Economists appear to be escapees from such institutions,) so that good health is in no way essential for a grasp of economics.

So, sorry, Dave…. Michael has a valid point.

archives2001
archives2001
January 27, 2015 12:15 pm
Reply to  chrisgoodwin

Thnx Chris, good to hear from you.
Sorry for this tardy response.
To get right to your point, This is what I mean by ‘footing’.
Here’s an excerpt from Wikipedia:
“The ultimate goal of economics is to improve the living conditions
of people in their everyday life.”
And here is what Google states:
ecยทoยทnomยทics
หŒekษ™หˆnรคmiks,หŒฤ“kษ™หˆnรคmiks/
noun
noun: economics; plural noun: economics
1. The branch of knowledge concerned with the production, consumption, and transfer of wealth.

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Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
January 25, 2015 9:46 am
Reply to  Michael Isaacs

Michael: I disagree. How can you possibly invest successfully in anything unless you have some understanding. It’s very simple…..if you only want to read about investing and dont find this sort of article helpful, don’t subscribe to the thread. But leave those who are interested to subscribe. We are all given that choice.

Jim Leavenworth
Jim Leavenworth
January 25, 2015 10:47 am
Reply to  Alan Harris

Alan, I second that emotion:-)

Buell Carruthers
Buell Carruthers
January 25, 2015 12:54 pm
Reply to  Alan Harris

I agree with Michael. This is NOT the place for Psychology. Stick to investing and the markets. There are lots of other places on the internet for Psychology.
Buzz

poppajohn
January 29, 2015 7:28 pm
Reply to  Alan Harris

Alan, I agree. Dr. Tilton should have been around for the psychology of our heated but eventually friendly discussion.

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hipockets
January 25, 2015 1:13 pm
Reply to  Michael Isaacs

Michael Isaacs – If you don’t want to read columns that are not related to investing, you don’t have to and don’t subscribe to the emailed notifications. Personally, I’m looking forward to more articles from Dr. Tilton.

Now, please excuse me while I reply to the voice inside me that made me say that. ๐Ÿ™‚

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mary
mary
January 25, 2015 3:35 pm
Reply to  Michael Isaacs

Michael, I was thrilled to find this column and was thinking how lucky I am to be a member of SG where different subjects are discussed by intelligent people. I am sorry you are not as excited by the addition as I. Those who are not interested in Dr. Tilton’s column can just not read it. Doc Gumshoe also has interesting medical columns I enjoy which do not include stocks. I feel the more about health I understand, the better I will understand the biotech stocks we do discuss….see ya on Dr Kss’s and Travis’s threads!

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LostOkie
LostOkie
January 25, 2015 7:58 pm
Reply to  mary

Why is everyone coming down on Michael? Travis specifically asked for our opinion, did he not? And isn’t that just what Michael did? Doesn’t seem right to be ragging on him just because his opinion is not the same as yours.

As for myself, I’m entirely neutral on having these articles. Having them here is fine with me but I doubt I’ll read many of them.

Just my 2 cents
LostOkie

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Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
January 25, 2015 8:52 am

Well done Peter. I am totally ignorant about this subject, so welcome a light into its murky corners. Being a practical person, somehow regular medicine is far easier to understand……youve got some bug (or whatever) so the doc prescribes a pill that kills the bug. Once the bug is dead, its ‘Have a nice life….Next patient please!’. But Im just not sure whether mental illnesses are ever ‘cured’ or just alleviated by a good chat to get it off your chest and the prescription of some stabilising uppers for those who are down and downers to calm those who are hyper. That sounds like a lifetime of pill popping.
So I just wanted to ask one question so that I get off on the right foot: Is there a cure for mental/personality problems or is it a life sentence of mood altering drugs to achieve a counter balance?
If thats a stupid question; on this subject I must regretfully plead guilty.

Jonothon Gross
Irregular
January 25, 2015 10:33 am
Reply to  Alan Harris

Peter,
I look forward to your installments. It is quite a difficult task you are undertaking, simplifying psychiatry.

Alan, if I may venture thoughts about your question above (I am also a psychiatrist, and for many decades, a friend of Peter). The answer is, not unlike many aspects of life, not simple. As you mentioned, a bacterial infection can often be called cured, but as you seem to anticipate a troubling emotional malady is rarely amenable to such an all or none evaluation. That does not condemn one to either suffer without relief OR take pills for the duration. It is often possible to offer genuine insight to permit people to better understand what they are doing to unwittingly invite and prolong their misery; it is possible to discover ways in which individual vulnerabilities, life long habits of avoidance, and formerly successful ways of coping now combine to cause distress rather than prevent it. Thus, people can slowly begin to make changes in how they think, how they behave, and eventually how they feel – this includes nuanced changes in how they relate to important people in their lives. Not infrequently, people who once needed the assistance of medication to function reasonably well can begin to take a lower dosage, or even stop their medication.
There is a subset of people who through bad genetic luck or awful traumatic experience have been rendered vulnerable to unstoppable fluctuations in mood, or sufficiently damaged, that they certainly need a lifeline of psychotropic medications to help them function.

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Rusty Brown
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Rusty Brown
January 25, 2015 12:00 pm
Reply to  Jonothon Gross

Dr. Karen Horney would disagree.
Her “Self-Analysis” (1942! Before some of us were even born!) details how an individual, often with support of a friend or mentor, can approach and even resolve many of the neurotic issues in one’s life, and her writing style alone makes it worth the read. Crystal clear narrative on every page and brilliant insight into the issues from the past that can plague us until they are resolved. One of a series of such discussions, “Our Inner Conflicts” being another. Fascinating stuff, IMHO and beautifully written.
Don’t get me started.

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Rusty Brown in Canada
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Rusty Brown in Canada
January 25, 2015 8:36 pm
Reply to  ptilton45

True, Peter. I just wanted to make the point that these therapies are not infallible.

(I worked for a forensic psychologist in the Big City years ago. Met convicted rapists, murderers, petty thieves, scam artists, child molesters all the time when they came in for the regular therapy required by their parole conditions.)

archives2001
archives2001
January 26, 2015 2:43 pm
Reply to  Rusty Brown

I totally agree Rusty…
A giant in this complex movement.
The orthomolecular field is another.
It demonstrates the direct relationship between nutrition
and mental health.
Drs Linus Pauling, Carl Pfeiffer, & Abram Hoffer were founders.

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Ter Star
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Ter Star
January 25, 2015 9:19 am

I happen to have been a Psych major in my college days and I would support the inclusion of Dr. Tilton’s offerrings among your offerings. I firmly believe that there is far more mental illness throughout our population than the average person might suspect. The population is under served in this arena because “it” is not identified and/or seen as a “treatable” illness until there is a bona fide diagnosis. The inclusion of his articles might allow more people to become familiar with the under lying symptoms and precursors of mental illness…as well as some idea of potential treatment and/or medication possibilities.

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William McCall
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William McCall
January 25, 2015 9:38 am

I worked in the Social Services field for over forty years and in retirement found my second career as a Psychology instructor at one of our local Community Colleges.
Most of the classes I teach are introductory courses meaning a great many students have no formal introduction to the subject and sadly, some have incorrect, pre conceived notions about what psychology and the related fields, psychiatry, social work, etc, consist of. They are amazed for example, to learn about the scientific method of research in psychology, assuming that it was more of a, โ€œletโ€™s throw something against the wall and see what sticksโ€ kind of approach. Not unlike the approach some people I know take toward investing, but I digressโ€ฆ

Hope that you column becomes a regular piece of the Gumshoe Site, looking forward to getting my behavioral science fix, while at the same time learning more about my other favorite subject, making money (and avoiding the numerous rip offs out there).

Also, to my fellow readers who would object to information of this type being included on an investing web site, I would say that like anything, else, you can certainly pick and choose what articles are of interest. I would encourage you to give this column a try, however, never know what you might learn. Remember that knowledge, in the words of that famous inside trader, Martha Stewart, โ€œis a good thing.โ€

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Rusty Brown
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Rusty Brown
January 25, 2015 11:36 am
Reply to  William McCall

But “pick and choose” all too often means “wade through pages of stuff that has no bearing on what you came here for”.

hipockets
January 25, 2015 1:20 pm
Reply to  Rusty Brown

Rusty, what has no bearing for one might be important to another.

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Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
January 25, 2015 1:22 pm
Reply to  Rusty Brown

If you dont subscribe, you wont need to wade. Poor you if you are ‘forced’ to read Travis’ opener ….did you ever ‘happen’ across an unexpected topic that opened up a whole new world of interest?

jyoung0071
jyoung0071
January 25, 2015 10:25 am

Thank you Peter for an incisive opening piece. Your exposition is both very learned and yet clear-cut and pratical. I will look forward to learning a great deal from what you offer on this subject. A wise person once said to me: “If you know a family that is not affected by mental illness, then you do not know that family well enough”. Thanks again.

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Rusty Brown
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Rusty Brown
January 25, 2015 10:46 am

1. I’m with those who think that Stockgumshoe should stick to its core interest – tracking down and discussing those promotions we get in our email come-ons;

2. Any consideration of psychiatric disorders should always start with an examination of what the patient is consuming and not consuming. Nutrition really does play a role in brain function. Is this individual getting enough B vitamins? Enough dietary lithium? “…Several research studies have confirmed that link between high levels of lithium in tap
water and low incidences of suicides, admissions to mental hospitals, murders and rapes…” etc. etc.

3. As for the vaunted DSM: “…In 1973, the weight of empirical data, coupled with changing social norms and the development of a politically active gay community…led the Board of Directors of the American Psychiatric Association to remove homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). Some psychiatrists who fiercely opposed their action subsequently circulated a petition calling for a vote on the issue by the Association’s membership. That vote was held in 1974, and the Board’s decision was ratified…In 1986, the diagnosis was removed entirely from the DSM…”

I rest my case.

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hipockets
January 25, 2015 1:29 pm
Reply to  Rusty Brown

Rusty, I don’t know how to interpret your paragraph 3 above. Are you saying that being gay is a psychiatric condition, or that the Board should not have taken 12 years to follow through on the removal?

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Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
January 25, 2015 1:32 pm
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I think she’s saying, political correctness outweighs all else.

Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
January 25, 2015 1:39 pm
Reply to  Alan Harris

Isnt it strange re Charlie Hebdo: Millions of people march, protest that these killings are an assault on our rights to freedom of speech. …… Try walking out into the street and shouting, ‘Down with Gays, Muslims, Nazi’s, jews’ etc…and see how long it takes to get yourself locked up. Since when did we have freedom of speech????

Rusty Brown in Canada
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Rusty Brown in Canada
January 25, 2015 2:26 pm
Reply to  hipockets

I’m saying that the experts were apparently “wrong” all along and inflicted their “therapies” on individuals who, they now admit, probably did not warrant intervention in the first place. (And that many of them refused to see the “error” of their ways even then.)

Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
January 25, 2015 11:34 am

While I agree re: ‘ Iโ€™m with those who think that Stockgumshoe should stick to its core interest โ€“ tracking down and discussing those promotions….’ , I dont see why that means we cannot ALSO have articles like this. For heavens sake, its a free gift from someone who has spent a lifetime researching their subject and is bothering to try to educate us in layman terms, rather than the impenetrable psycho-babble vocabulary used in specialist publications. No one is forcing anyone to follow the thread. Just look at the KSS columns …….he includes acres of non investing stuff and people adore him for it.
Im tempted to wonder if its the topic that’s a bit too scary for some, a bit too insoluble, even a bit too close to home (everyone knows someone) and they’d prefer not to be confronted by it over the cornflakes.

Rusty Brown
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Rusty Brown
January 25, 2015 12:34 pm
Reply to  Alan Harris

“…a bit too insoluble, even a bit too close to home
(everyone knows someone) and theyโ€™d prefer not
to be confronted by it over the cornflakes…”
That would be quite sad, if it’s true. Understanding what motivates people can be both interesting and valuable, and so much of it is based on their early circumstances, from what I have read. It’s obviously a great advantage to be able to figure out what makes others behave the way they do, and oneself in the bargain – making the cause-and-effect connection – and absolutely fundamental to personal change and growth, it seems.

Rethink Retired
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January 25, 2015 2:37 pm
Reply to  Rusty Brown

I like it! I think it does extend a bit beyond the expected scope of the site, but I can see the educated audience that Gumshoe attracts would be interested in the occasional discussion of psychiatry. I for one welcome Gumshoe adding this and other lifestyle posts.

archives2001
archives2001
January 26, 2015 3:05 pm
Reply to  Alan Harris

” its the topic thatโ€™s a bit too scary for some”,…
Spot on Alan, spot on!

The thoughts of many:
Better to keep that ‘can of worms’ way back on the bottom shelf.
And by all means, never consider what they’re eating has something
to do with how they feel or think.
GI-GO: (Garbage In, Garbage Out), is factual in all areas of life.

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Marc bell
Marc bell
January 25, 2015 11:41 am

I agree with Michael I. Great topic, important on so many counts , but doesn’t belong on Stock Gumshoe , which is, well, about stocks. Stick with the excellent job you do already Travis, and never lose your sense of humor, which makes your stuff more real in my view.

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Francois
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Francois
January 25, 2015 11:55 am

Could you also include recipes on croissants. My wife has some difficulty getting them right. And for the future, information about good scotch. After adhering to some of the advice I receive I may need it.

ScorpioRising
ScorpioRising
January 25, 2015 12:27 pm

Thanks Dr. Tilton, my sister has been WotS since she was 20, or about 50 years now, with manic depression and schizophrenia. It’s a shame, because she was very smart growing up, straight A’s throughout school, and had to drop out of nursing school because of it. I’ve seen her in her schizophrenic state, talking about things that never happened that didn’t make any sense. The downside of the meds is that she is slow, lethargic, and has gained a lot of weight – really unemployable and so will probably always be WotS. Anyways, I will be interested in reading your future columns.

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Aunty
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January 25, 2015 2:43 pm
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I would also be interested in reading future articles from Dr. Tilton since I my daughter is slow, lethargic, and gained a lot of weight after her diagnosis and subsequent medication. It is refreshing to read the opinion of a professional who is willing to share their knowledge and experiences with people like me who grasp at straws in order to find what will work. Psychiatry is a field of work that really doesn’t have a true diagnostic tool, and Dr. Tilton’s analogy to a duck that wasn’t quite a duck made me laugh and also want to cry.
Perhaps a subject such as this does not belong in this investment type webspace, but if that is the only way it will be published, I am all for it being here.
Thank you much, I also look forward to future columns.

sigmull
sigmull
January 25, 2015 12:38 pm

I too believe focus should be on investing stocks etc Sig

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Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
January 25, 2015 12:49 pm
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The focus IS…..this is a bonus.

KennyG
KennyG
January 25, 2015 4:37 pm
Reply to  Alan Harris

I am reading all this back and forth about whether areas outside of investing belongs on these threads and I have to say I am bewildered. How can anyone in their right mind not see the added value that these tangential articles provide us? As was said by Alan and many others, if a particular thread topic has no interest to you, simply ignore it. Travis provides a simple mechanism to do that . . don’t subscribe to that particular thread. And guess what? . . you still receive all the other fine investment related threads that you came here for. It’s like ordering a pizza, and the establishment throws in a dozen free garlic knots for your enjoyment. Would you lash out at him cause he overstepped his bounds by offering you something for free when all you wanted was the pizza?
To take it one step further, Dr.KSS offers a great deal of useful biotech investment advise. But, he also throws in a great deal of scientific knowledge as well as free medical advice. Perhaps he should stop that nonsense and just offer investment “tips” and be done with it. Why waste our time reading all that other rabble. (don’t even think about it Doc!)
Personally, if Lawrence were to offer a thread on law, or Alan on how to maintain a heating system, or Frank on his philosophy of life, I say go for it. The more that you can get for that measly fee that Travis charges for this fine thread the better for all (well…apparently not all). This is what makes SG the fine ‘publication’ that it is.

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hipockets
January 25, 2015 8:32 pm
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Kenny, another great comment that deserves at least 10 “Likes” from me.

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1paglee
1paglee
January 27, 2015 3:27 pm
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As usual, very well said, Kenny! And as for the garlic, let it come in abundance because GARLIC IS GOOD FOR YOU!! if you don’t like it, just don’t eat it.

My mother lived to age 99, and during most of them, she cooked with garlic and in her last 50 years or so, she ate raw garlic daily. Sometimes this gave her breath a fairly strong identity, but nobody was obliged to stand or sit nearby. However, being somewhat more sensitive to unwelcome perfumes, I daily swallow my 600 mg garlic pill as a hard, concentrated “odor free herbal supplement”.

I have another 8 years to go to equal my mother’s longevity, but I am working on it with my daily garlic pill. Sorry I can’t recommend any garlic stocks for those who dislike this column because it may not be a big moneymaker — but then, a healthy, interested life can offer other values.

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January 27, 2015 6:42 pm
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robert I gave kenny a like & here’s one for you. I share your garlic philosophy & I have my own conviction that people who are over sensitive to the essence of garlic may also be irritating in other ways,,,,hence aroma may cause them to keep their distance and by so doing keep my blood pressure down . I must admit I have never sampled the garlic ice cream,,,Gilroy CA special,,,,or partaken of a ramp festival [Rampion Vulgaris} a particularly aromatic type of wild onion native to this continent. I always enjoy your posts.

frank

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JoeS
JoeS
January 28, 2015 9:28 pm
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Dammit Kenny, Alan is plumber not an HVAC Guy!

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dianagrace11
dianagrace11
January 27, 2015 12:00 pm
Reply to  Alan Harris

Thank you Dr. Peter Tilton, for this article!
Alan, Kenny, Hi Pockets and all pro learning, Gummies – I agree whole heartedly! I’m for anything that expands my horizons, adds to my knowledge base and I can tune in or out, as I please! This column from Dr. Tilton is a generous gift!

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Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
January 25, 2015 12:45 pm

My apologies straight out Peter (and other knowledgeable psychs here), coz I know youve only just set the scene with this article and Im sure there’s infinitely more to come…..and already, heres me asking silly questions. But I’ve long wondered something: We all have two eyes, ears, arms, legs, lungs, brain hemispheres, balls etc….in fact seemingly at least two everything vital. Is there anything written that asks whether we are in fact all two people in one collective body? It would make some sense in cases of schizophrenia/bi-polar (what do I know?) etc. Like marriage, we can choose to work together for the common good and live happily ever after, or live in conflict (no chance of divorce there). I mean, who the muck am I talking to when I talk to myself?

SoGiAm
January 25, 2015 1:12 pm
Reply to  Alan Harris

Alan, I once had a shirt that read: You’re just jealous that the little voices inside my head are talking to me. ๐Ÿ™‚ Best2ALL! – Benjamin

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Rusty Brown in Canada
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Rusty Brown in Canada
January 25, 2015 1:26 pm
Reply to  SoGiAm

I once had a green T-shirt that said “God only made so many perfect heads – the rest he covered with hair”.
My elderly mother gave it to me.

Greetings to all from Canada. โ˜บ

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archives2001
archives2001
January 26, 2015 3:15 pm

Yeah Rusty, I had a shirt that said,
“If you lose your hair in back,
You’re a good Lover…
If you lose your hair in front,
You’re a good thinker…
If you lose your hair front and back,
You just think you’re a good lover”

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SoGiAm
January 25, 2015 11:10 pm
Reply to  SoGiAm

Thank you Gummies for sharing in this celebration with us!
Dad’s obituary follows:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4oerNaIPZP7UnZFWmdMMGRIeXc/view?usp=sharing
I shall share further when transcribed, digitized. Incredible dad! Be perpetually blessed ALL!-Benjamin and Elsie

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DBMD
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DBMD
January 27, 2015 12:04 am
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Sorry for your loss, nice legacy, thanks for your dad’s service and life.

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dianagrace11
dianagrace11
January 27, 2015 12:12 pm
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Ben and Elsie, I’m so sorry for your loss. Ben, from what I read in your posts, you are much like your Dad. I pray his memory will be a blessing for your family.

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Patricia
January 25, 2015 3:09 pm
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“in psychiatry, we don’t usually think in terms of cure.”

Cures are only possible when actual causes are sought and found.

Causes are only found when they are honestly being sought – but research in some branches of medicine, especially this one, focuses only on profitable and often quite harmful “treatments.”

I don’t think this is right forum for this column, and hope the site will stick to its very specific purpose – don’t worry, this is my last word on the subject, I’m not trying to start an argument.

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archives2001
archives2001
January 26, 2015 10:39 pm
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Peter:
And when we discuss ‘medications’, let’s take a close look at
the etymology:
” from Old French medecine (Modern French mรฉdicine) “medicine, art of healing, cure, treatment, potion,” from Latin medicina
So that emphatically includes food and herbs, n’est pas?
Let’s face it, every food we put into our mouth is a ‘drug’ isn’t it?
It can and does effect us in a neutral, positive, or negative way.

โ€œLet food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food.โ€
โ€• Hippocrates

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Mira Amiras
Mira Amiras
January 25, 2015 2:26 pm

While psychiatry is an essential discipline to the understanding of the mind, emotions, thinking, and the biochemistry underlying human behavior, I don’t see the relevance here beyond self-promotion. Perhaps post the column as a link somewhere else? Rationality in psychiatry is a very distant relative of the concept of economic rationality. If the column focused on how those two coincide from time to time, I think it would be both more relevant and much more useful here.

archives2001
archives2001
January 26, 2015 10:22 pm
Reply to  Mira Amiras

“Rationality in psychiatry is a very distant relative of the concept of economic rationality.”
Ah contraire mon ami…’Psychiatric/Psychologic rationality’ and ‘economic rationality’ have much in common:
Read/listen to some of the investment masters ~ Jim Rogers, Dave Ramsey, Tony Robbins, Robt Kiyosaki.

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tes1900
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tes1900
January 25, 2015 3:09 pm

I have been reviewing this site considering it for investment debunking. Now I am confused is this site going to be investment related or mentally related?

KennyG
KennyG
January 25, 2015 4:46 pm
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Now I am even more in disbelief. There is criticism coming from many who are not even Irregulars and getting this stuff for free? What is this world coming to? Peter, I think I need to set up a session with you as I am so mentally confused with this discussion.
Peter – perhaps this fine attempt by you to further enlighten gummys should be moved to the irregular site only.

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hipockets
January 25, 2015 8:50 pm
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I haven’t actually counted, but it seems to me that the positive reactions are coming from Irregulars, and the negative ones from the non-members. Interesting.

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archives2001
archives2001
January 26, 2015 10:02 pm
Reply to  tes1900

Tes,
Wise investment requires a sage mind!

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Lulu
January 27, 2015 7:36 pm
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Its both. A better deal entertainment wise will not be found!!! Its a riot, gas, blast….come join the ruckus. But mind your Ps and Qs or you will be tossed like a salad.

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Roger Stevens
January 25, 2015 3:13 pm

I think that psychiatry is a fascinating subject. Perhaps Dr. Tilton should start his own letter. Pure mathematics is fascinating too. I am interested in medicine and alternative health, recognizing both as arts. I like martial arts. I enjoy and play classical music. History and biography are fascinating. Good fiction past and present are a great past time. I enjoy reading about and doing food preparation. I even like writing poetry in a classical mode. Except for organized sports, the world is my oyster. (I always feel depressed after watching organized sports–even ones I participated in–because it feels neither creative nor esthetically satisfying.)
However, I look to Stock Gumshoe for investing ideas and information. I find all the hype and letters fascinating and even hope to keep doing better in investing.
If Dr. Tilton starts his own newsletter or blog, I might well peruse it from time to time, or not, depending on many things.
I do look forward to reading Stock Gumshoe and have to be candid about enjoyment of the sheer educational value of Dr. KSS, and I have even done well by following his advice.
So I would urge staying with investment education and advice and eschew the rest of the fascinating universe, both micro and macro in the newsletter.

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Dave
Dave
January 25, 2015 4:27 pm
Reply to  Roger Stevens

Thanks, Roger–you wrote the post that I was going to write: there are hundreds fascinating topics in this world to explore, but there is no reason at all to clutter and de-focus the Stock Gumshoe site with articles about them, regardless of how wonderful the topics and articles may be.

Dr. Tilton’s piece was excellent and well worth reading. It just doesn’t, in my opinion, belong on a stock-trading/investing site. I’m a little surprised that Travis would even consider it. I mean, where are the limits on extraneous “columns”? Oh wait…not so surprised. Travis is running a business here, and the more people who come by…well, you know the rest.

Travis, please try to keep the focus sharp….on investing and trading.

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cecilpatterson
cecilpatterson
January 25, 2015 8:55 pm
Reply to  Dave

After reading the original article, and the comments that followed, I find that I must agree with Dave, Roger, and the earlier posts which suggested that Stock Gumshoe stay focused on stocks. As a lifetime irregular, I am not “getting this stuff for free”, but I do believe it is worth all that I paid for it and more. I first started following Travis several years ago and truly enjoy both his research and his wit, and I feel that adding columns or articles such as this tends to muddy the waters and dilute the message. My in-box is cluttered daily with teasers and other junk (as I’m sure most Gumshoers’ are as well), and I generally delete ten for every one I open. Stock Gumshoe always gets opened and read and, while I guess we could all just skip over the articles or links we’re not interested in, that’s not really why I subscribed in the first place.
As far as the article goes, it is will written and the author certainly seems to know his field and is a very capable writer. And, psychiatry is certainly relevant to the field of investing. However, so are math, statistical analysis, and economics. For that matter, why don’t we add a columnist to discuss theories on causes and effects of war, as we all know how war affects the stock market. As others have stated, perhaps there should be a separate website and/or blog for these articles. As has been stated before, Travis has asked for our opinion – I have no interest in bashing anyone who wants to read the columns, but please don’t bash those of us who don’t.
Thanks, Travis, and keep up the good work.

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iralaufer
iralaufer
January 25, 2015 3:51 pm

For one, I welcome the column and if it has merit, which I’m sure it will, will continue to read it with interest.

However, I was mystified by this remark:
” Iโ€™d like to start with what modern day psychiatry is about. Simple. Diagnosing and treating mental illness with medication.”

Later on you make references to psycotherapy and isn’t it more desireable to help someone with therapy before applying medicines.

Was the remark a typo?

Interested……

iIra laUFER

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Steve
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Steve
January 25, 2015 5:56 pm

A couple of questions for Dr. Tilton:
Why do you want to write your column on THIS website?
Will you be giving advice/making diagnoses based on written submissions, i.e. without ever seeing the writer in person for an extended period?
Why do you make the gross generalization that “modern day psychiatry is about… Diagnosing and treating mental illness with medicationโ€ and then (more accurately, in my opinion) say that medication is the first choice only in cases of severe/acute mental illness. I would guess that the majority of psychiatric consultations deals with neuroses, not psychoses.

Jay Koch
Jay Koch
January 25, 2015 6:37 pm

thanks, Peter, for your initial piece. I look forward to reading more of them.

Having said that, I wonder what the right frequency for your articles might be. I read Dr KSS’ articles regularly, but sometimes with difficulty. The payoff is insight on emerging therapies–as well as an understanding of regulatory and management issues unique to the drug and device industry. In the end, reading his work, I satisfy my curiosity several ways.
On this instance I’m curious about mental health issues but thus far see no economic or investment questions.
Absent more econ issues, I’d suggest to Travis fewer Tilton articles–but not NONE.

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ScorpioRising
ScorpioRising
January 25, 2015 6:59 pm

I really can’t believe the few folks that don’t want to see articles of this nature on Stockgumshoe. You don’t have to read them, and you don’t have to subscribe to them, so what is the harm? And even if this site (SG) were to expand its horizons a bit, let it. If you follow any of the Dr. KSS articles and comments therein, you know many times they deviate from investing. Psychiatry has come up on those threads more than a few times, and I really thought it warranted an off-shoot discussion. On this site, there is even a microblog for rights, religion, and sex – that is in no way related to investing! I love and respect you all, and I hope the naysayers can understand my opinion.

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Thomas
Thomas
January 25, 2015 7:37 pm
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Keep them coming.

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Phil Diamond pmd3nka
January 25, 2015 7:47 pm
Reply to  ScorpioRising

I agree. Lots of what KSS says is not strictly investment related, but fascinating. Surely Peter can contribute insights into Psychiatry. If people do not like them, do not read his stuff.

Happy Australia Day!

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