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By hendrixnuzzles, February 6, 2017

A Microcap Teaser Solution In Advance !!
(Australian stock exchange CLQ, OTC pinks CTEQF).
CleanTeQ is sure to be the answer to future teasers you will be reading about from resource gurus, To save you all the trouble of solving them, I decided to write this article.
My portfolio was grotesquely overweight in gold and silver positions, and in moments of anxiety I thought it would be a good idea to diversify and take a few positions in something other than gold mines, royalty companies, Mongolian exploration companies, and small-cap copper miners with major operations in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Thus I made a small speculation in CleanTeQ, solely on the basis that mining titan Robert Friedland was the Chairman, and CleanTeQ was the only resource company I could find that seemed to be in a position to mine scandium, a very rare metal that sells for a couple of thousand dollars a kilo.
My due diligence was so slight that I was embarrassed to emphasize my position to the readers at Stock Gumshoe. We are supposed to study these things a little more than I did for CleanTeQ. And after entering at 50 cents, the stock promptly dropped to 35 cents or so, making me glad that I did not look foolish by publicizing my position.
As the weeks went by, I started to find more information on the company that I should have found out beforehand. This was partly accidental, partly from other Gumshoe readers, and partly from new announcements and company news that occurred after I took a position. But the findings were all very positive, and because the company is so interesting I thought it warranted its own thread apart from the hard asset thread which I moderate.
I have a full long position and high hopes. And I thank Secretsquirrel, Griffin, Larry McKenna, and several others who helped fill in the missing pieces of the puzzle.
Below are my findings, opinions, and summary on CleanTeQ Holdings:
BUSINESS MODEL CleanTeQ is a hybrid company based with three bases: scandium mining and production, cobalt mining and production, and water purification. This seems like an odd combination, but as you will see, it is not. It is a stroke of genius. And I will explain why we should care about scandium and cobalt.
(1) The company is starting production of the Syerston mine, the world’s only scandium mine;
(2) The company will also produce significant amounts of cobalt as a co-product to the scandium;
(3) The company has a large-scale water purification technology, which will target municipalities,
Industrial operations with waste water problems, and mines, which also have water problems

PROSPECTS FOR THE THREE SEGMENTS
(1) Scandium is a very rare metal that usually occurs in only small amounts that are not economical to mine. It is mostly available as a by-product and the market is opaque, usually between private parties. Scandium has very beneficial applications in aerospace, aviation, and technology, but has not been widely applied because there is not a sufficiently reliable supply of it.
(2) Cobalt is essential in many batteries. Lithium gets all the investment press, but a majority of the battery formulations need cobalt, which is rare compared to lithium. Cobalt has a similar supply situation as scandium, it is mostly a by-product and is not commonly a prime mining target in and of itself. But demand for the electric energy market is growing rapidly and cobalt demand is growing and will continue to grow accordingly. Supply chains on cobalt are iffy.
(3) Water purification is a pressing need throughout the world. Cities with lots of people, industrialized places with lots of factories, or mines with waste water, all have a real and pressing need for large scale water purification. I think most people can accept this premise of widespread demand without a lot of documentation.

HOW DO THESE SEGMENTS RELATE TO EACH OTHER ? I cannot get too technical about the water purification technology, but I will try to explain what I understand, and how it relates to the scandium and cobalt operations. They call it Continuous Flow Ionization. Ionization is not a proprietary technology per se, but CleanTeQ has developed a way to implement ionization in a continuous feed, automated loop that improves volume, improves economics, is reasonably priced for installation, and can be custom-modified to specific waste problems. It can be used in conjunction with other filtration techniques. Further, it can be modified TO EXTRACT CERTAIN SUBSTANCES from the feed waste water. This is done by modifying the resins that are used in the ionization process.

Now it so happens that CleanTeQ has developed resins that can extract scandium and cobalt from waste water. So they potentially will have commercial sources of rare metals from the by-product waste of their water purification process !

HOW CLOSE IS THE WATER THING TO REALLY HAPPENING ? It is happening. CleanTeQ has signed a memorandum of understanding with a major Chinese municipality to implement their technology. There is a joint venture, 55% Chinese/45% CleanTeQ. Once the first one is up and working, China has a mind-boggling potential for water purification. For their teeming urban centers and for their mining and industrial locations, shall we say the potential is very large ?

CleanTeQ has 100% of rest of the world. CleanTeQ is closed-mouthed about other commercial sources, but they let on that they have been in contact with the likes of GE, Dow, and other big hitters. They state a pipeline target of $100 million by 2020; I predict they will do much better.

HOW CLOSE IS THE COBALT THING TO REALLY HAPPENING ? Very close. Battery useage is soaring and is the strategic target of many governments, corporations, and environmental groups. Batteries need cobalt.

HOW CLOSE IS THE SCANDIUM THING FROM HAPPENING ? This will take a while because the applications are high tech, with long lead times, and there is only one scandium mine in the world (CleanTeQ’s newly commissioned Syerston mine). CleanTeQ intends to develop the scandium market by being a reliable source of supply, and by driving the price down.
CleanTeQ will have viable margins with scandium prices up to half of current prices.

To give you an idea, the Russians made a few MIGs with scandium/aluminum alloys. They were faster, lighter, stronger. An addition of 0.5% scandium to aviation aluminum strengthens the frame, removes the need for riveting, reduces weight, and makes repairs easier. . The Russians dropped it because of costs; and Boeing and Airbus will not use it without a reliable source of supply. But there is about to be a reliable source of supply: CleanTeQ.

WHAT ABOUT IP PROTECTION ? I believe the IP and know-how moat is sufficient. CleanTeQ holds a perpetual license from a high-level Russian research organization that provided some of the foundation technology. I am not a patent lawyer and a lot of the know-how will be proprietary, not patented. CleanTeQ has been at this for over ten years, I think the barriers to entry are sufficient.

MANAGEMENT Totally a plus. Robert Friedland is the Co-Chairman and CEO, he has 20% of the company, great credibility and clout with the Chinese, and an unbelievable track record in mining. Sam Reggall is the other co-chairman. I know little about him, other than from my observations of him on an Australian investment show that aired last week. He was impressive.

MONEY AND FINANCES I don’t think there is anything at all to worry about. Friedland must be worth billions, the Chinese are in, and the concept has enormous potential.

Sources: as I mentioned, information is scant. My sources were the CleanTeQ website, presentations and and interviews with Friedland and Reggall, and the sketchy information on the brokerage sites. Nothing you cannot find on your own.

Long CleanTeQ

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Griffin
Griffin
October 3, 2017 12:38 pm

$PCRFY – Will Galaxy Resources Be Next With Some Good News?
by Matt Bohlsen

Summary
Word on the street is Galaxy has done a deal with Panasonic/Tesla, but it is not yet confirmed by Galaxy.
Will Galaxy go with Volkswagen, which recently put out tenders to source key EV metals for their plan to reach 3 million EVs?
Will Galaxy sign a deal with a Chinese company similar to the Pilbara Minerals deal recently signed with Great Wall Motors of China?

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4111348-will-galaxy-resources-next-good-news?uprof=46&isDirectRoadblock=true

I know HN has had some interest in Galaxy.

$PCRFY np

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secretsquirrel
secretsquirrel
October 3, 2017 7:20 pm

CleanTeQ annual report.

https://hotcopper.com.au/threads/ann-2017-annual-report-to-shareholders.3730899/#post-27641169

I cannot post just the file as it will not let me save it. Those more tech savy might able to, anyway reading it – looks brilliant, to much to devolge in one read.

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SoGiAm
October 3, 2017 7:45 pm
Reply to  secretsquirrel

$CLQ, CTEQF long – Thank you SecretSquirrel, HendrixNuzzles and the GREAT Gummunity! Here is the link to the 2017 Annual Report: http://clients3.weblink.com.au/pdf/CLQ/01903986.pdf First impression = WOW!…
There’s an AUTOCLAVE image! Expect one soon for $PTNUF, as well.
ALL $CTQ announcements link: http://www.cleanteq.com/investors/asx-announcements/ Best2ALL!

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eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 3, 2017 11:26 pm
Reply to  SoGiAm

Squirrel and Ben, Thank you for posting the link to CleanTeQ’s Annual Report 2017.

http://clients3.weblink.com.au/pdf/CLQ/01903986.pdf

I found this to be a hugely impressive, detailed, and well-written presentation, very professional indeed. Robert Friedland really nails it in his opening message, and it’s good to see a photo of one of those autoclaves on its way to Syerston. I wouldn’t mind one of those electric motorbikes with the Aluminum-Magnesium-Scandium alloy frame.
I’m sure other contributors will have much to say about this report. For me, it was interesting to note that water was mentioned ahead of metals in the beginning, although much of the subsequent detail in the report involved Nickel, Cobalt, and Scandium . The predicted ratio of Nickel to Cobalt Sulphates to be produced at Syerston is approx. 5.5 to 1 which is about right considering the evolving EV battery chemistry. VW’s recent tender for EV batteries specified a cathode ratio of Nickel:Cobalt:Manganese of 6:2:2, possibly adjusting later to 8:1:1 largely because of the high cost of cobalt. (Presumably VW has tested the efficacy of these battery formulations.)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-cobalt-evs-exclusive/exclusive-vw-moves-to-secure-cobalt-supplies-in-shift-to-electric-cars-idUSKCN1BX1RE

I should pick up some more CTEQF.

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eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 3, 2017 7:42 pm

Nice move up in Platina Resources today, a 22.25% increase. Does anyone know why?
Long PTNUF

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eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 3, 2017 11:53 pm
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

It’s either nickel or Renby’s bought trillions of shares. I suspect nickel. I see it was up today. Good news for CleanTeQ also.

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renbycage
renbycage
October 4, 2017 4:02 am
Reply to  eagerbeaver

Neither Eager, some guy bought $100 worth at that price, and that’s all it takes, it was the total traded on the entire day.

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secretsquirrel
secretsquirrel
October 3, 2017 10:50 pm

CLQ and EUC together!

Yes both mentioned in the one link below, both 2 of my favourite must have Long stocks! (others being GGI and MTS).

https://www.livewiremarkets.com/wires/government-policy-shifts-drive-ev-demand

We’re currently long Orocobre, Kidman and Global Geoscience (Lithium), Cleanteq and European Cobalt (Cobalt), Lynas (Rare Earths) and Talga (Graphene).

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eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 4, 2017 12:25 am
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Squirrel….A good find with some detailed information and interesting predictions. I see that CleanTeQ is their second best performer. Thanks for posting.

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SoGiAm
October 4, 2017 2:06 am

$ASX:JRV np Just started DD – Jervois http://jervoismining.com.au/ New CEO Effective 9/28/17
http://jervoismining.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Appointment-of-CEO-250917-final.pdf
ARLO CHIODO OCT 04, 2017 https://www.livewiremarkets.com/wires/government-policy-shifts-drive-ev-demand

Great article. I Was one of the earliest investors in SYR. Unfortunately missed the lithium rush but not the cobalt. I’m Long EUC as well, VERY long. Amazing things coming here. Was long CLQ also from teens, but been switching into JRV since 6c, should take a look at it. New CEO is of the highest possible calibre (as are the two new appointments he’s made). It’s a CLQ at groundfloor opportunity imo and CLQ is probably a $3-4 stock.

ROYALTIES… BULLABULLING ROYALTY

Jervois holds a royalty over gold production from the Bullabulling gold deposit in Western Australia….

SCANDIUM INTERNATIONAL ROYALTY

Jervois holds a production royalty of 1.7 per cent on the value of scandium and any other metal produced from the Nyngan deposit in New South Wales. The royalty extends for 12 years from the date of first production from Nyngan. At a price of US$2000 a kg for scandium and the targeted production rate of 38,500 kgs per year, the royalty would generate US$1.3 million a year….

FLEMINGTON-SYERSTON SCANDIUM DEPOSIT / POTENTIAL PRODUCTION ROYALTY

Jervois owns the Flemington-Syerston Nickel / Cobalt / Scandium deposit at Fifield in New South Wales.
This deposit is adjacent to and contiguous with the CleanTeq deposit.

In September 2016, the previous management of Jervois granted Australian Mines Ltd (AUZ) an option to acquire this project for $6 million net of $2 million in option payments of which $1 million has already been received.

In addition, AUZ must pay a 1.5 percent royalty on the gross value of any mineral production. By paying $500,000 in September 2017 and a further $500,000 in April 2018, it can extend the exercise date of the option to September 2018. The deal gives Jervois no certainty over option payments or exercise, although AUZ has raised $6 million on the strength of the deal and its market capitalisation has risen significantly.

This project is carried in the Jervois accounts at $542,000….

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eagerbeaver
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October 4, 2017 10:27 am

Just woke up this morning to a tease by E. B. Tucker of Casey Research (simultaneously transmitted by Bonner and Partners) on Cobalt miners, entitled the “The CO-27 Playbook. How to get rich off California’s Energy Nightmare.” Although Tucker mentions the huge growth in demand for EV batteries, he introduces the video by referring to the need to build massive energy storage facilities to absorb the huge excesses in electric power being produced in California by domestic solar panels. These excesses are overloading the California grid. To build these storage facilities, which are like giant batteries, they will need the key heavy metals, including cobalt. Of the two cobalt miners being teased by Casey Research here, one of them has to be CleanTeQ. I wonder what the other company could be.

“Two companies – both trading under $10 – have access to more than enough (cobalt) to satisfy California’s needs.”

“ Cobalt owners are preparing for a 900% boom.”

“The two companies that have “locked up” cobalt supplies will make an absolute fortune.”

“The first company we’ve got our sights on is sitting on a huge private supply of 2,158 tonnes that will soon be worth an absolute fortune.”

“The second tiny company Doug and I have found sits on what could be the world’s largest cobalt find.”

“These companies have ownership of cobalt far far away from trouble spots in Central Africa where cobalt is usually mined. The companies we’ve found own some of the most easily mined cobalt on the planet.”

“A company located in Canada has one of the largest available stockpiles of high-grade cobalt – ready to hit the market at any time…”

“There’s also Australia’s largest cobalt deposit. But it could actually turn out to be one of the biggest in the world… And a single company is sitting on it. Right now, it’s selling for less than $1 a share. When cobalt prices begin to soar… the stock price could shoot up 10-fold… It’s a $48 million company… sitting on a potential $3.2 billion deposit.”

Disclosure: I’m a big fan of Doug Casey and am a subscriber to two of his current promotions.

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secretsquirrel
secretsquirrel
October 4, 2017 10:51 am
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eagerbeaver, well AUSTRALIAN MINES LIMITED AUZ has a Mkt cap $40.34M and recently claimed to have the largest colbalt deposit there if I recall correctly. Current SP is 1.7 aud cents.

CleanTeQ is just over a dollar but it’s MC is far greater than 49M.

Not sure if there’s any indication who this is regards the – sitting on a potential $3.2 billion deposit.

Doug Casey is wise beyond his years.

Long large AUZ.

Best SS.

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eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 4, 2017 11:46 am
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Thank you Squirrel. That’s interesting. Robert Friedland is saying in his message introducing CleanTeQ’s 2017 Annual Report that “Syerston, in the Australian state of New South Wales, will become the world’s largest, non-Congolese source of battery-grade cobalt sulphate and nickel sulphate that are essential for the cathodes of lithium-ion batteries.”

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eagerbeaver
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October 4, 2017 12:29 pm
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Actually, I realize that saying you will become the world’s largest, non-Congolese source of battery-grade cobalt sulphate and nickel sulphate, and having the largest deposits are not necessarily the same thing. A miner can have a huge cobalt deposit but may not have the means to make the cobalt (II) sulphate necessary for the EV battery cathodes. It is clearly much more important to be able to make the pure battery grade compounds and CleanTeQ will be able to do this.

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eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 4, 2017 10:08 pm
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HN…. Oh, I absolutely believe them. No doubt about it. My biggest holding. If anything, they might tend to hold back.
Now I’m still wondering about that Casey tease.

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d.mounts
d.mounts
October 4, 2017 3:41 pm
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Did you see Ben’s write up above on $JRV (no position)? … says JRV property is adjacent and contiguous to Cleanteq. So additionally, Platina (and others?) is in the vicinity. More processing fees to CleanTeq for use of their extra/spare autoclave ?

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eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 4, 2017 4:03 pm
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deanbob….. I saw JRV mentioned by Ben but have not had time to research it. I first saw JRV in a comment to the article previously reported by Squirrel. The commentator had apparently been switching from CleanTeq to JRV. Here’s the link again.
https://www.livewiremarkets.com/wires/government-policy-shifts-drive-ev-demand

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Johnnn
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October 4, 2017 5:36 pm
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Apparently marin katusa has just called CLQ at 2-3 bagger in 12-24 mths. I believe it’s a subscriber letter

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Peter
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Peter
October 5, 2017 5:21 am
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These dinosaurs missed the boat. I work for an EV OEM. I am an older guy. But the technology is beyond some of these flim-flam dinosaurs.

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October 5, 2017 6:36 am
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secretsquirrel
secretsquirrel
October 4, 2017 5:37 pm
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

Never thought of that one, good idea hn, wonder if they thinking that, if not maybe they should receive an email then followed by your invoice!

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williamstown
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October 4, 2017 10:10 pm
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HN I think you’re correct, hoping $5-6Aus in 3/4yrs, to me a core holding.

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renbycage
renbycage
October 5, 2017 12:02 am
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I doubt Friedland tells his neighbors, hey come over for a barbecue, bring your ore, we’ll have a few beers and I’ll process your ore for you. Instead, he gives them some cash, stock, and a 5% royalty on the action. They don’t like that deal, Friedland can sell scandium for $600 till those companies dry up and go away. Right now they are weak competitors, they should be eliminated before stronger hands take them over.

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renbycage
renbycage
October 5, 2017 12:51 am
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Actually I think we should send HPX over to platina and auz with their ionization weapons and just steal their cobalt.

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eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 6, 2017 9:43 am
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

HN….Perhaps he wanted to distinguish it from the original Syerston, a village and parish in the County of Nottinghamshire in England, not far from Sherwood Forest of Robin Hood fame. There is also a Royal Air Force Station there, RAF Syerston, which is still in use today.

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eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 6, 2017 11:53 pm
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Exactly!

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Johnnn
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October 4, 2017 3:48 pm
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grade is king and AUZ don’t have it let alone extraction tech
AUZ Sconi Co is measured and indicated 65mt at .06% v CLQ 110mt at .10%

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Griffin
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October 4, 2017 11:13 am
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Evidently they haven’t heard of vanadium flow batteries or know that another bull market is vanadium. Vanadium batteries out shine lithium especially if they use the UniEnergy UTE electrolyte unfortunately last time I looked UTE was not public.

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eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 4, 2017 11:47 am
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Thanks Griffin. I will look into this.

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Shavian
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October 4, 2017 4:54 pm
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RED in the Uk gets its first significant order for its Vanadium Redox Flow Machines – from Monash Uni in Melbourne and 2 disrtibutors in Europe and Asia

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Griffin
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October 4, 2017 7:25 pm
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Just to add what little I know. I was in American Vanadium Corp and lost a bundle. AVC was focused more on vanadium batteries than he should have been and also didn’t put mining first. They were also too early on the flow battery for the USA. AVC let the lease on their vanadium project go it is now in the hands of ” May 17, 2017 / Prophecy Development Corp. ( TSX: PCY , OTC PINK: PRPCF , Frankfurt: 1P2N ) . the management some affiliation with the new company that the CEO of AVC has formed. I’m a little suspect of what is evolving.

Shavian, is RED using the electrolyte that was developed at PNNL that increases the capacity of flow batteries by 70%.

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Shavian
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October 5, 2017 2:39 pm
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Dunno Griffin – I’ll ask on the RED ADVFN UK thread and will report back if I get a response

Griffin
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October 5, 2017 3:27 pm
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The UTE electrolyte was developed at Pacific Northwestern National Labs. It adds 70% to the capacity of the VRB.

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Griffin
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October 5, 2017 10:34 am
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$PRCPF Vanadium project Gibellini is located in Nevada. I’m not sure where the world vanadium sources are.

You probably won’t see vanadium flow batteries in your local Wal-Mart not enough competition to discount them. ;]

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arch1
October 5, 2017 11:42 am
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Vanadium China, Russia, S. Africa, Brazil are the prime producers in that order.

https://investingnews.com/daily/resource-investing/industrial-metals-investing/vanadium-investing/vanadium-reserves/

Vanadium is used in making steel hard and tough.Much less brittle than Hi-Carbon steels for tools and wear resistant needs. Knives, Planer blades, drills (including rock drills for mining oil & gas wells etc.

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arch1
October 5, 2017 12:04 pm
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Lithium Interesting new recovery process for hard-rock Li ore. Oz company.

https://investingnews.com/company-profiles/lithium-australia/

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Shavian
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October 5, 2017 2:35 pm
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Joining the dots on Robert Friedland and Vanadium:
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4071655-robert-friedland-talks-vanadium-pay-full-attention

Perhaps we should look for some Vanadium assets as well

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Griffin
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October 5, 2017 3:20 pm
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Excellent article supports his writing with sources. Also notice that most of what is happening with renew-ables and batteries is in Europe and Asia. The thing I would have liked to seen would be the number renew-ables that have a battery in the USA if it exist.

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Griffin
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October 6, 2017 12:36 am
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I hadn’t and it is even stated in article, depending on how long he has written for SA, he should be quite aware of the ramifications. Having looked at the article a second time, I don’t see any real blatant bias, considering the RF interview and graphs he made a good argument that the vanadium market was on a upward move. I’ll stand by my previous comment.

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SoGiAm
October 4, 2017 12:09 pm
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SoGiAm
October 4, 2017 12:43 pm

$PTNUF added at .082

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October 4, 2017 1:54 pm
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$PTNUF 2017 Annual Report: http://www.platinaresources.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Annual-Financial-Report-June-2017.pdf Long GREAT Gummunity! 🙂 Sharing&Caring 🙂
🙂 >>>—Best2ALL———#Karma> 🙂

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jerome50
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October 5, 2017 1:13 am
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Below is a quote from Katusa Research latest recommendation, he does not seem to be quite excited as some of us here are about the stock! Oh well if you looked at his record for stock pics over the past year, they have been nothing short of pathetic, I’m a subscriber so I know!
As bright as Clean TeQ’s future is, don’t forget that this is a high-risk speculation. Don’t go with a huge position size on this one. Use a smallish position size and look to get in and out of the market with a relatively quick profit.
Long CTEQF

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October 8, 2017 4:04 am
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Re Marin Kutusa – I’ve seen the full report and that in and out comment is basically the disclaimer at the end. Essentially he reckons CLQ could double or triple in 12-24 months! He ran figures on it for 6 months and at a $4.50 – $5.50 Ni price says it is highly economic!

Boom!

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October 7, 2017 10:45 pm
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I’m sure the readers would want to see the full article from Marin

williamstown
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October 4, 2017 8:12 pm

Anyone in ASX PLL?

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SoGiAm
October 4, 2017 10:10 pm

#AUZ2017AnnualReportLlink: http://tinyurl.com/AUZannual2017SGS

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renbycage
renbycage
October 5, 2017 2:39 am
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Its certainly possible, but I’m going to predict it doesn’t go that way. I think it is more economical for cleanteq to process their own ore, they have enough of it for a long time, so why waste capacity ironing someone else’s clothes. Second, who is going to finance platina or auz? A primary scandium mine? Good luck with that. How much is the market valuating cleanteq’s scandium component? Last I saw it was zero. So if platina or auz are ever going to actually mine their metal, it will be strong hands doing it, and they won’t be wanting to beg cleanteq for some play time on their machines. I think the mostly likely outcome is cleanteq works out a take over or merger, does all the work, throws those guys some $, stock, and a %, and boom, more cobalt for renby and hendrix.

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renbycage
renbycage
October 5, 2017 2:53 am

Really high quality research behind this link:

https://www.livewiremarkets.com/wires/government-policy-shifts-drive-ev-demand?

An excerpt, note

While we expect Lithium and Cobalt to continue to perform strongly, it is equally as exciting to consider the growth opportunities with other EV-related raw material inputs which we forecast will experience bull markets as follows:

2017+ Lithium / Cobalt
2018+ Copper
2019+ Possibly Graphite / Graphene
2021+ Possibly Nickel (last due to massive industry surpluses that need to unwind)
We will be well positioned in these sub sectors (second derivatives of our EV theme) ahead of them playing out.

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eagerbeaver
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October 5, 2017 4:12 am
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Renby….. Yes, I read the article and the predictions make sense based on the current availability of the elements listed relative to the demand increases. What puzzles me is why the price of CleanTeQ stock has been tracking the price of nickel when nickel is currently so abundant. Why is CleanTeQ not tracking the price of cobalt and scandium?

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renbycage
renbycage
October 5, 2017 5:34 am
Reply to  eagerbeaver

I didn’t find it too unusual that we tracked nickel for a time period, since the price of the stock seems to only hold the value of their nickel/cobalt deposit, and they have 6 times more nickel than cobalt [of course cobalt sells for 6X nickel price so there’s that]. You would have thought the rise in cobalt would have neutralized the rock bottom price of nickel. But here are my thoughts about that april to july 50% dip from its high. Either some very large holder was selling off a large cache, or the stock was manipulated down by some entity, maybe to accumulate at a lower price. Just speculation on my part, based upon the nature of the action. There was no rational explanation that I am aware of for the stock to go from A118 to A60 and back up to A112 in this 6 month pocket of time.

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eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 5, 2017 9:44 am
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Renby….. Yes, I had been thinking that the stock price may have been manipulated.

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eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 5, 2017 5:15 pm
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

HN…… Here’s a summary of the use of graphite and the potential use of graphene as anode materials in EV batteries.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/bu_309_graphite

This is what they say about graphene’s involvement. “Graphene anodes are said to hold energy better than graphite anodes and promise a charge time that is ten times faster than what is currently possible with Li-ion. Load capabilities should also improve; better longevity is another item on the wish-list that needs to be proven.

With traditional graphite anodes, lithium ions accumulate around the outer surface of the anode. Graphene has a more elegant solution by enabling lithium ions to pass through the tiny holes of the graphene sheets measuring 10–20nm. This promises optimal storage area and easy extraction. Once available, such a battery is estimated to store ten times more energy than Li-ion featuring regular graphite anodes.

Further improvements with graphene are achieved by adding vanadium oxide to the cathode.”

Here’s another role for vanadium. And yes, RF has certainly indicated an interest in vanadium.

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eagerbeaver
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October 5, 2017 7:18 pm
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

Agreed. There are enough good prospects to focus on in the here-and-now.

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renbycage
renbycage
October 5, 2017 7:40 pm
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

Here’s a way to invest in graphite/graphene, it actually looks pretty good, but on australia exchange only. Talga [TLG]. no position.

http://www.talgaresources.com/irm/content/why-invest.aspx?RID=291

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williamstown
Irregular
October 5, 2017 3:24 am

ASX MEI rose nearly 21% today closing at 5.8c aud hearing could be 9/10c by Xmas, some say more
Tolga Kumova is invested, as an investor only.
Cobalt
No position DYOR

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secretsquirrel
secretsquirrel
October 5, 2017 5:04 am
Reply to  williamstown

Thanks williamstown,

I’ll take a look.

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williamstown
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October 5, 2017 6:34 am
Reply to  secretsquirrel

Ss be interested on your thoughts.

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Peter
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Peter
October 5, 2017 6:35 am

What do you guys think about Sherritt International for cobalt production? It appears that their billion dollars of debt may have been ‘forgiven’?

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SoGiAm
October 5, 2017 6:43 am
Reply to  Peter

$SHERF np – Sherritt Provides Notice of Release of Third Quarter 2017 Results, http://www.sherritt.com/English/Investor-Relations/News-Releases/News-Release-Details/2017/Sherritt-Provides-Notice-of-Release-of-Third-Quarter-2017-Results-Conference-Call-and-Webcast/default.aspx
Conference Call, and Webcast
TORONTO, October 2, 2017 – Sherritt International Corporation (“Sherritt” or the “Corporation”) (TSX:S)
has scheduled the timing of its third quarter results announcement and conference call as follows:
Press Release: October 24, 2017, after market close
Conference Call and Webcast: October 25, 2017, 9:00 a.m. (ET)
North American callers, please dial: 1-800-274-0251
International callers, please dial: 416-640-5944
Live webcast: http://www.sherritt.com
Source Peter for forgiveness of debt? Best2You

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Peter
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Peter
October 5, 2017 8:47 pm
Reply to  SoGiAm

Thnx SoGiAm

renbycage
renbycage
October 5, 2017 4:31 pm

Last 5 closings for CTEQF: .80, .82, .84, .88, .90. The elevator has been going up. Will we finish the week at closing high .92? Break intra-day high of .93? Oz friday action will let us know. Also this rise to highs is not correlating with nickel prices. Nickel prices peaked 30 daysago at $5.50, around when CTEQF hit the 90s for the first time, but now is back in the 4.70s.

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eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 5, 2017 5:38 pm
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Ahhh….. So CTEQF is finally shaking off the nickel yoke?

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Griffin
Griffin
October 5, 2017 5:51 pm
Reply to  eagerbeaver

Well maybe, maybe not, I’m posting a new article from Matt Bohlsen be up in a few.

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Johnnn
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Johnnn
October 6, 2017 5:10 am
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

Looks like Marin and his friends on the asx today

Griffin
Griffin
October 5, 2017 5:55 pm

$FYI – Time To Buy Norilsk Nickel Before The Nickel Boom Perhaps Starts In 2018
by Matt Bohlsen

Summary
Get paid an 8.83% dividend yield while you wait for nickel prices to improve.
Invest in the global leading nickel producer with industry low costs of production.
Also exposure to palladium, copper, platinum and cobalt.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4111985-time-buy-norilsk-nickel-nickel-boom-perhaps-starts-2018?uprof=46&isDirectRoadblock=true

$CLTEQ long

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Griffin
Griffin
October 5, 2017 9:18 pm
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I thought the articles said as much about the Nickel market as it did about Norilisk. Though the article sounded speculative on China use of stainless steel there are other articles that have said China will be using more Vanadium in rebar. I’m not trying to correlate rebar with SS but depending on what the construction boom is for one needs to be aware. China had high rises not long ago which I believe were residential so I don’t think there will be another such boom.

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