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By hendrixnuzzles, February 6, 2017

A Microcap Teaser Solution In Advance !!
(Australian stock exchange CLQ, OTC pinks CTEQF).
CleanTeQ is sure to be the answer to future teasers you will be reading about from resource gurus, To save you all the trouble of solving them, I decided to write this article.
My portfolio was grotesquely overweight in gold and silver positions, and in moments of anxiety I thought it would be a good idea to diversify and take a few positions in something other than gold mines, royalty companies, Mongolian exploration companies, and small-cap copper miners with major operations in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Thus I made a small speculation in CleanTeQ, solely on the basis that mining titan Robert Friedland was the Chairman, and CleanTeQ was the only resource company I could find that seemed to be in a position to mine scandium, a very rare metal that sells for a couple of thousand dollars a kilo.
My due diligence was so slight that I was embarrassed to emphasize my position to the readers at Stock Gumshoe. We are supposed to study these things a little more than I did for CleanTeQ. And after entering at 50 cents, the stock promptly dropped to 35 cents or so, making me glad that I did not look foolish by publicizing my position.
As the weeks went by, I started to find more information on the company that I should have found out beforehand. This was partly accidental, partly from other Gumshoe readers, and partly from new announcements and company news that occurred after I took a position. But the findings were all very positive, and because the company is so interesting I thought it warranted its own thread apart from the hard asset thread which I moderate.
I have a full long position and high hopes. And I thank Secretsquirrel, Griffin, Larry McKenna, and several others who helped fill in the missing pieces of the puzzle.
Below are my findings, opinions, and summary on CleanTeQ Holdings:
BUSINESS MODEL CleanTeQ is a hybrid company based with three bases: scandium mining and production, cobalt mining and production, and water purification. This seems like an odd combination, but as you will see, it is not. It is a stroke of genius. And I will explain why we should care about scandium and cobalt.
(1) The company is starting production of the Syerston mine, the world’s only scandium mine;
(2) The company will also produce significant amounts of cobalt as a co-product to the scandium;
(3) The company has a large-scale water purification technology, which will target municipalities,
Industrial operations with waste water problems, and mines, which also have water problems

PROSPECTS FOR THE THREE SEGMENTS
(1) Scandium is a very rare metal that usually occurs in only small amounts that are not economical to mine. It is mostly available as a by-product and the market is opaque, usually between private parties. Scandium has very beneficial applications in aerospace, aviation, and technology, but has not been widely applied because there is not a sufficiently reliable supply of it.
(2) Cobalt is essential in many batteries. Lithium gets all the investment press, but a majority of the battery formulations need cobalt, which is rare compared to lithium. Cobalt has a similar supply situation as scandium, it is mostly a by-product and is not commonly a prime mining target in and of itself. But demand for the electric energy market is growing rapidly and cobalt demand is growing and will continue to grow accordingly. Supply chains on cobalt are iffy.
(3) Water purification is a pressing need throughout the world. Cities with lots of people, industrialized places with lots of factories, or mines with waste water, all have a real and pressing need for large scale water purification. I think most people can accept this premise of widespread demand without a lot of documentation.

HOW DO THESE SEGMENTS RELATE TO EACH OTHER ? I cannot get too technical about the water purification technology, but I will try to explain what I understand, and how it relates to the scandium and cobalt operations. They call it Continuous Flow Ionization. Ionization is not a proprietary technology per se, but CleanTeQ has developed a way to implement ionization in a continuous feed, automated loop that improves volume, improves economics, is reasonably priced for installation, and can be custom-modified to specific waste problems. It can be used in conjunction with other filtration techniques. Further, it can be modified TO EXTRACT CERTAIN SUBSTANCES from the feed waste water. This is done by modifying the resins that are used in the ionization process.

Now it so happens that CleanTeQ has developed resins that can extract scandium and cobalt from waste water. So they potentially will have commercial sources of rare metals from the by-product waste of their water purification process !

HOW CLOSE IS THE WATER THING TO REALLY HAPPENING ? It is happening. CleanTeQ has signed a memorandum of understanding with a major Chinese municipality to implement their technology. There is a joint venture, 55% Chinese/45% CleanTeQ. Once the first one is up and working, China has a mind-boggling potential for water purification. For their teeming urban centers and for their mining and industrial locations, shall we say the potential is very large ?

CleanTeQ has 100% of rest of the world. CleanTeQ is closed-mouthed about other commercial sources, but they let on that they have been in contact with the likes of GE, Dow, and other big hitters. They state a pipeline target of $100 million by 2020; I predict they will do much better.

HOW CLOSE IS THE COBALT THING TO REALLY HAPPENING ? Very close. Battery useage is soaring and is the strategic target of many governments, corporations, and environmental groups. Batteries need cobalt.

HOW CLOSE IS THE SCANDIUM THING FROM HAPPENING ? This will take a while because the applications are high tech, with long lead times, and there is only one scandium mine in the world (CleanTeQ’s newly commissioned Syerston mine). CleanTeQ intends to develop the scandium market by being a reliable source of supply, and by driving the price down.
CleanTeQ will have viable margins with scandium prices up to half of current prices.

To give you an idea, the Russians made a few MIGs with scandium/aluminum alloys. They were faster, lighter, stronger. An addition of 0.5% scandium to aviation aluminum strengthens the frame, removes the need for riveting, reduces weight, and makes repairs easier. . The Russians dropped it because of costs; and Boeing and Airbus will not use it without a reliable source of supply. But there is about to be a reliable source of supply: CleanTeQ.

WHAT ABOUT IP PROTECTION ? I believe the IP and know-how moat is sufficient. CleanTeQ holds a perpetual license from a high-level Russian research organization that provided some of the foundation technology. I am not a patent lawyer and a lot of the know-how will be proprietary, not patented. CleanTeQ has been at this for over ten years, I think the barriers to entry are sufficient.

MANAGEMENT Totally a plus. Robert Friedland is the Co-Chairman and CEO, he has 20% of the company, great credibility and clout with the Chinese, and an unbelievable track record in mining. Sam Reggall is the other co-chairman. I know little about him, other than from my observations of him on an Australian investment show that aired last week. He was impressive.

MONEY AND FINANCES I don’t think there is anything at all to worry about. Friedland must be worth billions, the Chinese are in, and the concept has enormous potential.

Sources: as I mentioned, information is scant. My sources were the CleanTeQ website, presentations and and interviews with Friedland and Reggall, and the sketchy information on the brokerage sites. Nothing you cannot find on your own.

Long CleanTeQ

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williamstown
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October 9, 2017 7:21 pm

Just took position in AUS MEI

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williamstown
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October 9, 2017 10:45 pm
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MEI Aus Meteoric Resources.
I’ve taken a small position – not a long term position at present – this morning mainly because of the various metals across their holdings and following Tolga Kumova eg
Midrim, La Force in Quebec, and Iron Mask & Mulligan in Ontario.
Midrim has Ni, Cu, Co, Pgm
La Force Polymetallic, Cu, Ni, Co, Pgm
Mulligan Ni, Ag , high grade Co
Iron Mask Ag, Co
As always DYOR
Website: www. meteoric.com. au

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SoGiAm
October 10, 2017 12:02 am
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$MEI.asx #WVarticle – You have reached an article available exclusively to subscribers.

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williamstown
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October 10, 2017 2:03 am
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Tolga very loyal to his friends, doesn’t forget them, just treats them as normal humans.

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williamstown
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October 9, 2017 8:43 pm

Euc AUS has dropped to 24/25c aud, don’t panic, the brokers etc are just trying to get weak hands to sell.
Nothing’s changed, hold tight, announcement expected soon within next 10 days from Lab in Perth re grades on dump waste.

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Johnnn
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October 10, 2017 3:30 am
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Katusa said it could double or triple in 12-24 months. The guy did 6 months worth of figures on CLQ!

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Johnnn
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October 10, 2017 3:22 am
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You should see CLQ guidance by Macquarie against blue chip IGO and OZL on the ASX – look at their market caps.

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Johnnn
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Johnnn
October 10, 2017 4:25 am
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Feel free to email me.

summerpd
October 10, 2017 11:40 pm
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Johnnn, if you have something to add, do so. We are rather open on this discussion and we do not try to play games with information we may have. Again, if you have something to say, just say it . . . to the entire group of us.
Sorry to be blunt and maybe I misread you. But again–if you have something to add, please just do so.

Long CleanTeq.

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renbycage
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October 10, 2017 10:11 am
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I see it the same way.

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renbycage
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October 10, 2017 10:50 am

After doing a lot of DD, I’ve taken a position with Ardea [ARRRF]. I thought 70 cents was a reasonable entry. Market cap 60 Mil. Second best cobalt deposit in australia to cleanteq, and with plenty of further exploration upside. They have tons more cobalt then anybody if you count low grade, but a nice sized super high grade zone. When I compared Ardea to Platina, it was obvious to me Ardea was the better investment. At least for me, because I’m in it mostly for the cobalt. Plus Ardea has a clear path towards quick mine construction and even production by 2020, while Platina will probably just languish until somebody takes them over. So I thought I would swap my Platina position for Ardea. But I really don’t want to sell my Platina, because at 25 mil MC, it is ridiculously underpriced. All I want is a double, so I can pull back my principal, and ride my profit. So I instead trimmed my Kirkland, its up a remarkable 150% since I bought it this year, so a standard trim high move. So now I own 3 different australian cobalt/nickel/scandium properties, I hope I’m right that this paradigm looks like a really good business moving forward, and for Platina and Ardea, the cost of the company relative to the value of the asset seems compelling to me. Australian cobalt is blue gold in the new energy revolution, like striking oil in texas 100 years ago. Nickel should also do well.

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eagerbeaver
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October 10, 2017 11:34 am
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Travis J. is almost certain that Ardea is the recent Casey tease for cobalt production in Australia.

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eagerbeaver
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October 10, 2017 11:57 am
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Renby….. I had previously looked at Ardea but not in great detail. It seems they have access to great resources. Do you know how far along they are with their processing plant? The possession of an autoclave is the litmus test here.

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eagerbeaver
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October 10, 2017 11:35 am

Will the rising tide of CleanTeQ lift Platina?

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renbycage
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October 10, 2017 4:43 pm

I am now as invested in australian cobalt as in gold. By association, I also own a ton of nickel and scandium, but my attraction has always been cobalt. I will stay with gold investments for at least the medium term, as a hedge against fiat money depreciation. But as I look to also hedge against being over-invested in gold, which has some fuzzy fundamentals due to manipulation, I have surveyed the different flavors of metals, and cobalt is like pistachio ice cream, green and uniquely tasty. Really the info is very readily out there for anyone to see, cobalt demand is going to challenge supply for the coming decade. It is not completely pie in the sky. There will be competition, and the higher the price goes the more fierce that competition will become. I don’t know how much it may rise in price, but the pressure will be up for a long time. Of all the metals, it is the one that most predictably will be supply constrained relative to increasing demand [I am accumulating copper also]. I figure at some point, we will get a cobalt bubble. That bubble could push cobalt over the $50/lb mark, and maybe even peak at significantly higher than that. There is also the potential for africa to go dysfunctional, then owners of australian cobalt mines would be sitting pretty. These stocks would all explode, and if cobalt does go mania at some point, that would be the sell signal [not cleanteq, they have way more going for them than cobalt]. That’s the way I see it, that’s the way I’m playing it. Long cleanteq, platina, ardea.

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renbycage
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October 10, 2017 4:57 pm
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I saw one guy do a quick analysis of ardea with some basic reasonable numbers, and just with the cobalt, giving no value to the nickel or scandium, came up with a valuation 4.5 times present stock price, platina at 25 mil MC in same situation, their cobalt in the ground is worth so many multiples their stock price, these companies own their land 100%. Scandium for all these companies could be a monster, that is more speculative with ridiculous upside, but the cobalt is like striking oil 100 years ago, its pistachio flavored green gold.

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renbycage
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October 10, 2017 5:41 pm
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Even without African chaos, Australian cobalt will be favored over African cobalt due to both ethical and reliability concerns. Since Africa currently supplies 60% of the worlds cobalt…….. these Australian Cobalt deposits that are selling in the 25-60 million range, that are high grade and have scandium and nickel bonus dollars, you can get rich off of these IMO.

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renbycage
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October 10, 2017 6:11 pm
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Honestly, Platina is highly sketchy from some vantage points. They think they are a scandium company, which amuses me. I think now they have woken up to realizing they need to define their cobalt resource. Which should be substantial. Nobody will ever finance them as a scandium mine. They like to consider themselves cleanteq’s twin brother, but they are like my two nephews. One is a doctor, and the other is….. well lets say he is trying to figure it out. But one thing I am almost positive of. At some point, probably within a year, their stock price will double from what I bought it, and then I cash in half. Free Australian cobalt for Renby, with nickel and scandium bonus. Like taking a bottle from a baby.

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williamstown
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October 10, 2017 5:22 pm
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Reny I hope you’re correct re cobalt etc in the long run.

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secretsquirrel
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October 10, 2017 5:39 pm
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EUC – Release Date: 11/10/17 08:34
Summary: Refurbishment of Joremeny Adit Commences at Dobsina
Price Sensitive: Yes

More good news

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williamstown
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October 10, 2017 5:59 pm
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SS interesting that Rob Jewson mentioned for the first time I can recollect silver?
The opening buys & sells looks like someone is still trying to suppress the sp.

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eagerbeaver
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October 10, 2017 8:25 pm
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HN….Looking at the “heavy” metals that make up the power systems of current and some planned EV’s, they are copper (as the metal itself), then nickel and cobalt as solid compounds, and a lithium salt in solution as the electrolyte. Because of cost considerations, the cobalt sulphate content is being reduced in favor of the nickel salt as evidenced by recent battery cathode formulations put out for tender by VW. So this would suggest an order of copper, then nickel, followed by cobalt and then lithium, as quantities from greatest to least in current and trending power systems of EV’s.

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eagerbeaver
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October 11, 2017 12:02 am
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HN…. I am also favorably inclined and wish to know more about Ucore.

Yes, I have seen the Periodic Table (PT) in the “Our Markets” section of CleanTeQ ‘s website. Now, I understand their list of target metals above the PT but I don’t know if CleanTeQ is saying that they themselves can extract the metals highlighted in black in the PT. The Group IA Alkali Metals highlighted, namely Sodium (Na), Potassium (K), Rubidium (Rb) and Caesium (Cs) react by catching fire and exploding in the presence of water and water vapor, and are extremely dangerous, especially the latter two. Caesium can cause a major explosion. And in the Group IIA list, Radium is highlighted.

Long CleanTeQ of course.

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eagerbeaver
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October 11, 2017 5:44 am
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HN…. Are we looking at the same list? Mine is headed with Metals and then on the next line, “Clean-iX can be used to recover the following metals” ( in bold ). Then they give the list which fortunately does not include any Group IA Alkali Metals.

If CleanTeQ decides to get into the business of extracting Alkali Metals, then I would probably get on the phone to them and ask them what the hell are they doing before selling my entire position. There are much, much safer things to do in life than extracting Caesium. Such extraction would be a hugely dangerous enterprise. Now, if they are talking about extracting or recovering the salts of Alkali Metals, then that would be an entirely different matter.

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eagerbeaver
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October 11, 2017 10:08 am
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I was meaning that I’m glad that they are not proposing to isolate any extremely dangerous element in their list.

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summerpd
October 11, 2017 2:27 pm
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I think you are confusing the metals with the ions. Sodium, as the ion, as in salt, sodium chloride does not catch fire. All of these are dealt with in solution, so they are ions, not the metals themselves.

eagerbeaver
eagerbeaver
October 12, 2017 10:49 pm
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The Elements themselves are highlighted in black in the presentation as being extractable. I’m very interested to find out if Clean-iX technology can safely extract/recover/purify Group IA Alkali Metals without blowing up the facility.

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Shavian
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Shavian
October 15, 2017 2:18 pm
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HN – you could add Nano One (NNO: TSXV) to your list of Techno Miners. I love the term!

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arch1
October 11, 2017 3:02 am
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Re Lithium, You have a finished product for most uses at the end of using evaporation ponds so it has no need for Cleantek methodology for salable
commodity. No fit there.

https://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2014/3087/pdf/fs2014-3087.pdf

Manganese major use ( 90% ) is in steel industry and so reflects world prosperity as does Copper Zinc and Iron. Battery use will always be small (compared with steel use ) as will Cobalt and Vanadium. All three are driven by steel use . That is not a bad thing but EV demand will not be great until world production of wealth improves. Then it will increase already large demand and drive prices up. You can lump nickel in with them as stainless steel is main consumer.
It is intriguing that Cleantek is very well positioned for near future IMO.

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renbycage
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October 11, 2017 12:40 am
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I’ve took a good bite of Ivanhoe, and it is up 70% for me so now its a whole meal, plus hopefully cordoba finds a bonanza of copper. I may look for more non-african copper as time goes on, but you’re right, I concentrate a little more in the narrow bands that I get fixated on. I like the magnified gains when I’m right.

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renbycage
renbycage
October 10, 2017 5:19 pm

Last 7 closings for CTEQF: .82, .84, .88, .90, .91, 1.02, 1.04. We kind of skipped over the 90s, and wouldn’t surprise me if we retraced over them at some point, but we’re on a 7 game hitting streak, we’ll see if we can keep on going. For the moment, not a penny stock anymore.

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renbycage
renbycage
October 10, 2017 7:49 pm
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CTEQF The stock action has been beautiful. I fully loaded up at 62 cents, and so its only trimming from this point forward. First target for a trim isn’t til US$2. At that point i could sell 30%, get all my original capital back, and still have about 2.3X my original overweight money in stock. At 4 I can cash out a truly life changing amount, and still have over 2X my original investment in stock. It may seem silly and delusional to be planning a stock to multiply more than 6X purchase price, but that’s the way I see it, that’s the way I’m playing it.

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eagerbeaver
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October 10, 2017 8:37 pm
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It looks like there may be some profit-taking on CleanTeQ going on in Sydney at the moment. I’m watching for a future buying in opportunity.

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eagerbeaver
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October 11, 2017 6:17 am
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HN….. I sold part of my CleanTeQ holding early Monday morning when I saw that the stock was up 12c in the US market. I felt that it would start to decline from that position and it has. Now, the question becomes where to get back in? Will the stock become a “falling safe”? I very much doubt it but I will have fun guessing. Maybe it will become a “rolling stock” but with a generally upward trajectory. We’ll see. Ideally, I would like to follow the Casey doctrine and eventually end up playing with the house’s money. Hopefully.

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SoGiAm
October 11, 2017 8:35 am
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$CTEQF did the same EagerBeaver, ‘cept last Friday #B2Yaz

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eagerbeaver
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October 11, 2017 1:18 pm
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HN….. I quite understand. I just had a feeling it would fall off and eventually establish a new base. I’m just having fun and enjoying the experience. I still have 75% of my original position. CleanTeQ is undoubtedly a winner.

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hedy1234
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October 11, 2017 9:20 am
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Fat profits can easily be protected with options.

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williamstown
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October 10, 2017 8:54 pm

EUC AUS sp dropped to 21/22c on some profit taking, and options being converted mainly by the directors to assist in financing the activities being carried out in Dobsina.
I’ve purchased more this morning at these prices as nothing fundamentally has changed.

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mmdwacjm
October 10, 2017 9:01 pm
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What is the stock symbol for EUC AUS . I trade on T D Ameritrade. can I buy it there? thanks mark

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SoGiAm
October 10, 2017 9:15 pm
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$EUC.asx is sole symbol found… Personally. use Interactivebrokers.com VERY satisfied with their service. AUD.USD converstion / rate. Best2ALL

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renbycage
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October 11, 2017 2:07 am
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COMPANY FOCUS My intention is to consider a more cobalt-only speculation. In this respect, while Ardea’s priority is their cobalt/nickel target in Kalgoorlie, Ardea itself has a large number of projects that must detract somewhat from that focus.”

And then there is this little teaser from their investment highlights,

“Plan to expedite drill programs with a view accelerate gold mining cash flow, or possibly to spin-out non-core assets into separate listed vehicle(s)”

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williamstown
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October 11, 2017 3:19 am
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HN I agree with you that CLQ is a core future guilt edged stock, and thoughts, however, on the timelines I think EUC will be first.
Dobsina is EUC’s flagship and presently mgt are leaving nothing unturned in trying to prove that the high grades do exist consistently on the land holdings.
Although small and speculative at the moment that can change with consistent high grades of cobalt and nickel and proven resources project throughout the holdings
I think that if successful a sp of $1/2 aud or higher is possible within 12/24 mths.
As we all know or should know nothing is certain, , but could definitely be achievable if goals are met.
Just like your good article above on forward planning etc, you should invest with your head not your heart/ emotions.
It’s still high rewards low risk, but the outcome should become much clearer as the project continues.
If successful I can assure you that Tolga will go knocking on multinational doors around the world.
Rob Jewson a director is overseeing the drilling operations in Dobsina.
NCZ which is also connected to Tolga choose debt financing over CR, and I think they’ll do likewise once they’ve completed all the operations in Slovakia, which is being financed by mgt exercising their options.
Drilling results will determine its fate, and in the end the sp.

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niizajim
October 11, 2017 7:21 am
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Question answered above. Please delete this post.

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Johnnn
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October 11, 2017 8:48 am
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EUC need to prove up a resource. Develop a flowsheet.
Buy autoclaves.
Get backing.
Syerston is 2/3 years ahead.

williamstown
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October 11, 2017 4:40 pm
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Johnnn with all due respect we will wait and see!

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secretsquirrel
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October 11, 2017 3:51 pm
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Friedland as a jockey now, like it hn……yes he’ll probably always be ahead as first out the blocks and pedigree, wonder what his horse is called?

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williamstown
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October 11, 2017 4:34 pm
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SS I think a good name would be Above The Rest or Ahead Of The Rest ?
What do other gummies think?

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williamstown
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October 11, 2017 7:50 pm
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HN as we Aussies say ‘ you’re a funny bugger’

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williamstown
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October 11, 2017 9:20 pm
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HN you’ve a great sense of humour, I’m up to the challenge!

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Bridutt
October 11, 2017 10:03 pm

Williamstown, forgive me if I missed this but European Cobalt was once known as Western Mining Network, no? When I do a lookup on Fidelity for European Cobalt, that is what comes up with a ticker of WMNNF. What is confusing for me though is that the price is down at US $.06. Would you have any insights here? Thanks.

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williamstown
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October 11, 2017 10:30 pm
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Bridutt you’re probably correct as it was WMN asx code Western Mining Limited, but to my knowledge it only trades in Aust as EUC asx.
The sp at the moment is around 23/24c aud, so if you’re thinking of buying that’s the only ticker as far as I’m aware.
The offloading of options during this week, which lead to a sp drop wasn’t by the present mgt – though that is how I understand they’re going to finance their present operations in Slovakia – but an ex director.
I hope that helps explain your query.

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Bridutt
October 12, 2017 10:17 am
Reply to  williamstown

Thank you, Williamstown. I signed up for International trading with Fidelity and now I can buy the EUC ticker. I will have to do some research to figure out what the other ticker is. The Australian ticker for European Cobalt comes up as European Cobalt RK ORD and the ticker in the US comes up as European Cobalt NPV and like I said, it is trading at $.06 so I will have to do some investigating to see what the difference is. Either way, thanks for the heads up for this company

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d.mounts
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October 12, 2017 10:43 am
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Bridutt, EUC:AU is the symbol. I use Fidelity, and activated international trading last summer.

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Bridutt
October 12, 2017 9:43 pm
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That worked. Thanks deanbob

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SoGiAm
October 11, 2017 10:59 pm
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secretsquirrel
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October 17, 2017 10:47 am
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Just to say I had taken a Long position in AUZ a good few months back and yesterday it hit up 30% to 3.4cents. I only got in because like PGM I thought it might interest CLQ Friedland. Think it could go further as they have a big land area and seem to be attracting some attention.

Also Long, CLQ, PGM, EUC btw.

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SoGiAm
October 12, 2017 12:37 am
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And EVERY furlong the SP goes UP on each horse… The #Gr8Gummunity takes all & WINS! 🙂 ThankYOU, HendrixNuzzles & Gummunity! #Best2ALL

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williamstown
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October 12, 2017 1:35 am
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HN is it too late for one other, which I’m hearing excellent track reports on, a younger horse starting out with its first run from Ontario which may end up being a Canadian Flyer called Mei ?
Early days, with no race form to go on, but I believe really good blood lines, and that man again being his trainer – Tolga

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williamstown
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October 12, 2017 2:47 am
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HN you should’ve been a race caller – what talent !

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williamstown
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October 12, 2017 4:03 pm
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HN again well summarised, the attraction and attention that MEI is generating with hype in well connected circles is for cobalt.
Without question IMO CLQ is the standout investment over the longer term with clearly potential plus in so many areas.
In the short, medium term I don’t think you can disregard EUC as an investor, as if it attains it’s grades across it’s holdings the stock will be solidly re rated.
Just ask yourself why did Tolga elect EUC to be his main cobalt and nickel play?
RF is definitely without question the master, TK is the young up and coming guy, probably helped by the current environment- but as they say you have to create your own

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renbycage
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October 12, 2017 3:24 pm

I come from california with a guitar on my knee,
I’m going to australia, for my blue cobalt to see,
Oh Platina, Oh don’t you cry for me,
Just double up to 18 cents, I want my shares for free.

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williamstown
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October 12, 2017 4:23 pm

HN we gummies are truly fortunate to be involved in Travis’s publication as there is so many great investment ideas and opportunities across the individual threads.
Stockgumshoe is the place to be!

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rubberworm
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October 12, 2017 9:32 pm
Reply to  williamstown

Hope Aussies selling…will be money in my pocket IMHO as a buyer you understand… Cheers

rubberworm
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October 13, 2017 11:40 am
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US market getting wacky to the upside compared to Aussie closing price.
1.25 AU = .98US we are at 1.04 now.

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SoGiAm
October 13, 2017 11:01 pm
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$More likely, the ignorant that are unable/unaware of AUD.USD conversion.

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hedy1234
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October 14, 2017 7:51 am
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

At one time the $AU was as low as 0.50 and then went over $1.10 in July 2011.

williamstown
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October 12, 2017 10:46 pm

EUC asx topped up again today, fundamentals still the same.

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secretsquirrel
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October 14, 2017 5:52 pm
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Griffin
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October 14, 2017 6:12 pm
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SS think said I subscribe to a premium service. I did a search on the title and came up with another link;

https://epeak.info/2017/10/14/robert-friedland-backed-cobalt-company-considering-canadian-listing-sources/

long $CLTEQ

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renbycage
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October 14, 2017 6:52 pm

A must listen for all cleanteq investors. This guy Kaiser is like a professor giving a lecture on clean teq as an investment, I was stunned at the specificity of the information. He explains stuff you’ll never hear anywhere else. Start the video at 12:50. He confirms a lot of what I have been opining on, basically think cobalt, and put your scandium thoughts much further in the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1607&v=0pKMN24Ts3Y

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d.mounts
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October 14, 2017 7:17 pm
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Renby,thanks for the interesting audio. Could an autoclave be modified or dedicated as a ‘pre-processor’ for the scandium, while the 2nd be dedicated to the cobalt and nickel? (I have absolutely no background or experience in chemistry.)

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renbycage
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October 14, 2017 7:41 pm
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god its nice to listen to somebody who truly knows what he is talking about, and can spit it out, even if he sounds like a computer head.

deanbob, I think the answer is yes. One autoclave could be used to process ore from the cobalt zone, and the other for the scandium zone.

However, I’m not sure why they wouldn’t use both of them to process the high cobalt ore. I suppose it depends on market conditions when it comes time to actually scoop the ore into the autoclaves. Cobalt is on a bit of a timer, its peak of demand may very well coincide with when we are ready with production. But how long it lasts is unknown. The race for alternatives to cobalt is already in full swing. If cobalt is at $25 or more when we already to process, it would seem logical to focus all production on the high grade cobalt piles.

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eagerbeaver
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October 14, 2017 7:49 pm
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Great find Renby! A fascinating interview and I agree with you that cobalt is on a timer. On the one hand, the demand for cobalt looks set to increase as EV battery production increases, but on the other, because of its price, cobalt is being “thrifted”. Its presence relative to nickel in the cathodes is being progressively reduced, as evidenced by the battery cathode formulations recently put out for tender by VW.

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Griffin
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October 14, 2017 10:12 pm
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I think what is being talked here “it is in the Clean-iX resin extraction circuits. He said that the smaller amounts of scandium had to be taken out first before they can get the cobalt and the nickel. ” is a valence problem (from what I remember of chemistry 101) the ability to give and take electrons.

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rubberworm
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October 14, 2017 7:37 pm
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Off top of my head I think Kaiser has lots of shares of the pure Sc company…

eagerbeaver
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October 14, 2017 8:01 pm
Reply to  rubberworm

Scandium International

http://www.scandiummining.com/s/Home.asp

Summary from their website.

“Scandium International Mining Corp. (SCY) owns an 80% interest in the Nyngan Scandium Project, located in New South Wales, Australia, approximately 500 kilometers northwest of Sydney.

Scandium International has completed all required governmental approvals with the objective of commencing mine construction in 2017 (subject to financing) and scandium production in 2019. The Company also owns an 80% interest in the Honeybugle Scandium property, an exploration property adjacent to the Nyngan Scandium Project in NSW, Australia.”

I wonder if they have an autoclave, or two?

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eagerbeaver
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October 14, 2017 10:18 pm
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

HN….. They say they would like to commence mine construction this year ( subject to financing ) and begin scandium production in 2019. Well this year is nearly over and I have not found an update yet on their progress. As for scandium extraction from ore containing it, there is a patent for its extraction as a dissolved salt with acid under heat and pressure in an autoclave.

https://www.google.com/patents/EP0775753A1?cl=en

The possibility was raised in the video that RF may view Scandium International as a potential takeover target down the road.

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rubberworm
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October 15, 2017 10:15 am
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I think RF plans to be the largest seller of Sc in the world. No real market for Sc yet. ClenTeq’s lowest prices around will get large end users to start using Sc large scale. CleanTeQ will get the good offtakes regarding SC. That is my thinking.

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secretsquirrel
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October 15, 2017 8:26 am
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renbycage
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October 15, 2017 9:06 am
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The best outcome to remove insecurity regarding the future of cobalt would be binding off-take commitments. Thats what I am looking for in the next 15 months. There should be plenty of lithium ion battery makers looking to lock in their cobalt supply from a reliable, ethical source.

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edski
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October 15, 2017 11:39 am
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$SCY $CLTEQ “The recent shift in emphasis from scandium to cobalt is an example of this.” said HN
What COULD be happening is that Cleanteq mines the cobalt, takes an offtake agreement with SCY and makes millions off both the materials.

Regarding SCY’s location and resources in-ground, why wouldn’t SCY be a good investment akin to Seabridge (SA) ?

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renbycage
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October 15, 2017 2:14 pm
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Good luck with a primary scandium project. First you have to have a market. How big that market is is anyones guess. It may be that cleanteq can provide the entire world market demand for the next decade, and can make a profit on it by selling it for $750. I think they have the ability to produce something like 6X the present annual world usage of the stuff at about 550 cost. So now evaluate SCY as an investment. Scandium price is likely to go down, probably way more than the $2000, $1500, or $1250 price projections I have seen. My guess is $750 is more realistic, cause at $1500 too many companies start to compete, and the guys who produce it as a by-product squeeze out the guys who do it as a primary, or make it impossible for them to make any money with it. The only reason I own Platina is because I think their cobalt is worth many times their market cap, and soon the market will figure that out.

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renbycage
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October 15, 2017 2:30 pm
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If in the next year, cleanteq locked in off-take commitments for the majority of their nickel and cobalt [their stated goal], not just what would it do for its stock price, but what would it do for ardea stock price, and platina stock price if they showed they were a syerston twin. I think australian cobalt will do very well in the next 3-6 years, with the biggest demand by far coming out of china. But there may be a very specific time to cash it in, because it could be a bubble that pops.

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rubberworm
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rubberworm
October 15, 2017 2:53 pm
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http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20160830/pdf/439rkc9x7nlrp9.pdf

With costs for Sc 444US/per kg I think CleanTeQ could be just going down to $750…and for the next ten years take it all.

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edski
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October 16, 2017 8:53 am
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

And there you have it. As stated in a link somewhere above, the prices need to come down to create a demand for scandium and have a reliable source for future orders.
Seems like all the needed elements, (sorry….) are in line for creating such measures.
long $scy, $cteqf

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edski
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October 16, 2017 8:15 am
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

Points taken, all. I just figure that a small position in SCY could reap big benefits later on down the road, especially if I am right regarding a possible offtake agreement.
Cheers and good hunting to all of us.

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Johnnn
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Johnnn
October 15, 2017 6:46 pm
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

Keep kaisers comments in perspective – the guy clearly jumped on he wrong horse

Johnnn
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Johnnn
October 15, 2017 6:46 pm
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

Keep kaisers comments in perspective – the guy clearly jumped on the wrong horse

rubberworm
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rubberworm
October 15, 2017 7:43 pm
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The guy doing the Kaiser interview said something
like this…. CleanTeq put out a new resourse update and the scandium disappeared. BS The update said….Scandium Mineral Resource Estimate
The scandium Mineral Resource for the Project has increased significantly to 45.7 Mt
@ 420 ppm Sc for 19,222 tonnes of contained metal using a 300ppm cut-off. Of this
total resource, 27% is in the Measured and Indicated categories.
This compares to the previously reported scandium Mineral Resource (17 March 2015)
of 28.2 Mt @ 419 ppm Sc for 11,819 contained metal tonnes, using a 300 ppm Sc cutoff
(i.e. an increase in contained scandium metal of 63%).

Kaiser and this guy are trolls at best.

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renbycage
renbycage
October 16, 2017 12:08 am
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

rubberworm, you bring up a point. kaiser said he thought cleanteq would not bother getting the scandium out of their high grade cobalt ore, and that changed the story just a wee bit for me. however their is nothing in the news release that backs up that premise, and in fact, the news release says this: “The DFS will incorporate scandium oxide by-product recovery from the cobalt-nickel circuit with a nameplate capacity of 80 tonnes per annum Sc2O3. So to me, that contradicts what he said, I’m curious to see the answer on that, getting 80 tonnes or not makes a material difference.”

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rubberworm
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rubberworm
October 16, 2017 12:52 am
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Here is Kaiser back in 2015 saying that Scandium will be producing in 2017 and and praising this 2 bit MOU for 7500TPA to what looks like just some middle men to me. And Kaiser was bashing CleanTeQ then. Article ends saying JK has shares. Don’t think Kaiser will make his deadline of 2017 production.

https://secure.kaiserresearch.com/s4/Trackers.asp?ReportID=702166&_Type=Trackers&_Title=SVH-Tracker-Scandium-International-scores-scandium-oxide-offtake-agreement

eagerbeaver
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October 16, 2017 1:28 am
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They appear to be running well behind schedule rubberworm and may not have even begun mine construction yet, perhaps because of financial limitations.

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secretsquirrel
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October 18, 2017 11:57 am
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I like Kaiser, always listen to his comments, especially if it mentions a stock I hold or considering to. Seems knowledgeable imo. Definitely someone with experience in the game.

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rubberworm
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rubberworm
October 16, 2017 1:13 am
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This is a MOU….
“A memorandum of understanding (MOU or MoU) is a formal agreement between two or more parties. Companies and organizations can use MOUs to establish official partnerships. MOUs are not legally binding but they carry a degree of seriousness and mutual respect, stronger than a gentlemen’s agreement.”
An offtake that is worth nothing. IMHO.

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