GOLD AND SILVER AND HARD ASSETS…SUMMER 2017

By hendrixnuzzles, July 3, 2017

Pretium Resources $PVG announced on July 3 that commercial production has been achieved at Brucejack.
That achievement makes a nice breakpoint for a new thread continuation on hard assets, which I introduce herewith.
This thread is a continuation of threads posted previously by the author on gold and silver and hard asset investments. It incorporates the changes that have occurred in my outlook
since January. Most of the companies I am long have been subject to lengthy due diligence and discussion, which you can find on prior threads.

PURPOSE My intent is to find and discuss good hard asset and commodity ideas. The thread is aimed at those who share the same general outlook. I favor royalty companies, developers, small to mid-cap miners, and explorers. I am wary of big-cap miners, ETFs, and indexes. I am strongly influenced by the leadership and management of the companies under discussion.

I am a believer in the concept of optionality as propounded by Rick Rule. And remember that as investments, in general, MINERS SUCK. We are looking for those that suck the least and have the most upside, or speculations we believe have the best chances of appreciating. My favorite jurisdictions are Canada and Australia, but I will look at sketchy neighborhoods like Turkey, DRC and Mongolia and speculate there if I think the story is compelling. I am also a big fan of Robert Friedland and I believe there is a technological materials and commodity revolution taking place, which subject is also best suited to the other thread: Scandium, Cobalt, and Water Purification: CleanTeQ Holdings.

My outlook for the sectors (excluding scandium and the rare earth battery metal complex) is as follows:

GOLD AND SILVER INVESTMENTS…Precious metals remain a focus on this thread. I believe that gold and silver prices have been and continue to be a target of manipulation and price suppression by powerful groups, including and especially governments and central banks. I take these suppressive actions to be a reality and part of the landscape. It is pointless to cry about it, but instructive to observe what is happening.

I believe these efforts will eventually fail, but they can visit havoc on prices and values in the meantime and keep prices artificially low for long periods. But not forever.
Meanwhile I will maintain my positions in the sector and lookfor the very best speculations and investments in it.

So I am still bullish and gold and silver investments for the long-term, although the proportion of them in my investments in my stock portfolio is being reduced somewhat.
That proportion is still probably much higher than that of most readers.

My gold/silver longs are:

Miners, even though miners suck: $PVG Pretium Resources, $MAG Mag Silver
Royalty/streamers: $WPM Wheaton Precious Metals, $SAND Sandstorm Gold. Was long $FNV but did not like their recent shift to gain exposure to oil and gas, so I am out.
Developers: $SA Seabridge, $BCEKF Bear Creek, $KNTNF K92 Mining
Exploration speculations: $CNRIF Condor, $ERDCF Erdene Resource Development, $KVLQF Kivalliq Energy, $CLASF Colorado Resources
Physical and redeemables: I hold physical in non-numismatic gold and silver, and I am long $PSLV.

COPPER, ZINC, NICKEL…I am bullish and welcome discussion of tickers in these commodities. My only long at the moment is Ivanhoe Mines, $IVPAF.
$IVPAF has some political and jurisdiction risk in DRC, and minor exposure in South Africa; so I think introduction of other ideas is of benefit.

SCANDIUM, COBALT, and WATER PURIFICATION: Please revert to my thread devoted to this. Discussion of battery technology and mining technology is best posted on that thread.
My conviction pick/stock speculation here is $CTEQF, CleanTeQ Holdings, which has its own thread.

LITHIUM: I am long Galaxy Resources but I am not terribly excited by the lithium space as a commodity play;
discussion of lithium and batteries should be on the other thread Scandium, Cobalt, and Water Purification: CleanTeQ Holdings.

PLATINUM GROUP METALS (PGM) Fair game for thread discussion.
My only long is Ivanhoe Mines IVPAF, which is mainly a copper/zinc stock.

DIAMONDS I have very small positions in Lucara and Lupara, they are diamond mining speculations.

URANIUM…I’m bullish but the choices seem pretty limited. My top three investment-grade choices are Cameco first, then Cameco second, or my third pick would be Cameco. After that, you are speculating on small caps, or buying ETFS or funds comprised of Cameco and some small caps. At the moment, I am long $CCJ Cameco and UEC as a high-leverage speculation.

POTASH/FERTILIZER…very interested because it is at the intersection of food and mining, but no position at present. Ideas welcome.

AGRICULTURE…very interested. A large sector but really not too many choices if you rule out futures, like I do. No positions as of this writing, but I have been watching WHGPY (Chinese pork processor who bought Smithfield), LAND (Gladstone Land, California farmland), INCPY (Input Capital, a Canadian canola, streaming model).

OIL AND GAS… Currently I have no positions in oil and gas as I see uncertainty in long-term demand, no real problems on the supply side, and more competition from other energy sources, primarily from the battery/electric sector. But I would welcome good ideas accompanied by strong reasons and decent due diligence and research. This field is so big and complex we could get completely lost just tossing names around. If someone has conviction and knowledge about a company, discussion is welcome.

SOLAR, WIND, COAL, IRON ORE, ALUMINUM, STEEL…really not too interested. The results depend too much on politics, the time frames seem too long. But I am not completely closed-minded on it if you have conviction on something. I am bullish on aluminum vis-a-vis steel but prefer more leveraged, long-term scandium alloy to aluminum.

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DISCLOSURES. I am a retired executive and an amateur investor. I like both fundamental and technical analysis. I am a medium-term to long-term position player and prefer to discuss stock investment in that context.

I am not an expert in any of the commodities discussed, nor am I qualified to give advice. I change my mind on investment choices and my opinions are subject to change at any moment. Everyone makes mistakes and I make more than my share.
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When I post, I express my opinions and my positions. These are just that…they are my opinions and my positions. They are not advice or recommendations, which I remind you I am unqualified to make. Caveat emptor. You are responsible for your decisions, and I am responsible for mine.
Political developments and opinions should be introduced on this thread only when they have a clear bearing on the commodities or companies under discussion.

I would like to operate in a friendly, honest, and constructive atmosphere.
As thread moderator I reserve to myself the role of referee, censor, arbiter, and Grand Poobah, subject to the over-arching authority of Travis, who owns the site and who has on occasion exercised his right to ruthlessly censor and suppress my radical blatherings.

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I apologize in advance for the length of this article but I haven’t worked out how to send a link. Behre Dolbear wants readers to subscribe to the newsletter. BTW it’s FREE. And there’s a prominent mention of Robt Friedland. 09/11/17 BEHRE DOLBEAR WEEKLY NEWSLETTER HEADLINES Copper, iron ore price drops bring mayhem to mining stocks “Restoration of production will make Kipushi the world’s highest-grade major zinc mine” Philippines’ Duterte wants to keep open-pit mining ban China to loan Guinea $20B to secure aluminium ore Rare Earth Metals Electrified by China’s Illegal Mining Clean-Up How Gold’s Mr. FixIt Became Mr.… Read more »
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Dunnydane, thanks, chock full of interesting stuff we won’t see otherwise.
Some obvious things:
Duterte should call Cleanteq.
The town council of Kiruna should call HPX,
The Chinese are gearing up on aluminum.
Base metal mine closings are good for prices, we just don’t want to own any mines in countries that are shutting them down.

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…and $MUX’s Los Azules looking good in Argentina

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Ivanhoe is taking a hit. Does anyone know why?

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THE writing is on the wall for some of South Africa’s gold and platinum mines, according to a report by ratings agency, Moody’s, which said companies such as AngloGold Ashanti, Gold Fields and Sibanye-Stillwater were likely to continue restructuring, especially if expansionary capital was held in abeyance. An illustration produced in Moody’s analyst Douglas Rowlings’ report ‘Restructuring of South African operations is credit positive for gold, PGM miners’, showed that the South African mines of AngloGold Ashanti and Gold Fields were infrequent contributors to earnings after capital expenditure during the last three-and-a-half financial years. Combined earnings after capital expenditure from… Read more »
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Here is the link to the above article. I believe this may explain some of the Ivanhoe decline eagerbeaver asked about.
http://www.miningmx.com/news/gold/30438-moodys-predicts-gold-mines-will-close-charter-crisis-persists/

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Thank you Denton. I’m expecting Ivanhoe to bounce back, especially on recent good news.
https://www.ivanhoemines.com/news/2017/kamoa-kakula-copper-discovery-continues-remarkable-growth-of-global-significance-in-the-copper-world/
This could be a buying opportunity.

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Denton…South Africa and Ivanhoe…I am much more concerned about the situation in the DRC with respect to Ivanhoe. South Africa doesn’t worry me at all, here is why: 1, Ivanhoe get no market cap credit at all for the Platreefs PGM project anyway. Investors are getting Platreefs for free. The market is valuing Ivanhoe as a copper resource, and the copper is in the DRC. 2. The Platreefs project is so rich, when the dust settles it will be more profitable than any other mine in South Africa. So it will get built and it will produce metal. 3. The… Read more »
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Copper

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Scottu, $CLASF Colorado Resources…drill results…I agree with your observation on the Colorado drill results. Aside from the headline about the half meter with 4 kg gold per ton, the results were “only” pretty good. This was also the case with drilling prior to this release; in fact, I had considered getting out of CLASF to fund other higher grade prospects. I entered CLASF at 20 cents. There are a couple of reasons I can think of that keep me hanging on. First, I believe that the results are good enough to go after for an open pit mine. I prefer… Read more »
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$SAND. Here is a cut from a recent write up I received on SAND. It puts in simple terms the value Sandstorm gained by the acquisition of Mariana Resources and its Hot Maden project. In July, the company finalized a deal to acquire Mariana Resources. Under the terms of the agreement, Sandstorm paid $48 million in cash and issued more than 32 million shares of Sandstorm stock. That represents a total value of $175 million… The prize of the acquisition is Mariana’s 30% ownership of the high-grade Hot Maden project in Turkey… The grade of the deposit is an astonishing… Read more »
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$K92 Mining. Here is latest release on community relations. VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA–(Marketwired – Sept. 15, 2017) – K92 Mining Inc. (“K92”) (TSX VENTURE:KNT)(OTCQB:KNTNF) reports that an extensive evaluation of underground vandalism reported in August has revealed only minor damage to underground equipment and infrastructure. Equipment damage onsite as described in the August 24, 2017 K92 News Release has been limited to 2 off MT2010 low profile trucks, a small Loader/Telehandler and surface infrastructure with a total estimated value of less than USD $1.4 million. The Company notes that with respect to the damage to this equipment it is in the… Read more »
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Today I gave my portfolio a 10% shave. Took some profit on Kirkland, which gave me 124% in 8 months, and closed out some short term trading positions at small profit. My portfolio is at its all time high, the perfect time for a shave. If things continue to go up, great. If we get a repeat of the last quarter of last year [as this year so far has followed last years gold pattern], I’ll have a little gunpowder for the resulting bargains. I also added a little Platina, I have a small investment there I wanted to beef… Read more »
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Copper continues to fall in price and, with it, the price of Ivanhoe stock (IVPAF). Yet, I expect the demand for copper to surge now that EV production is being ramped up for political and environmental reasons.

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$CLASF – Colorado Closes Strategic Investment by GoldCorp to Fund Additional Exploration I just received this from Colorado it has not been posted on their website yet so here is a C&P of the main part;”COLORADO RESOURCES LTD. (TSX-V: CXO) (“Colorado” or the “Company”) is pleased to announce that, further to its news release of August 4, 2017, the Company has closed the non-brokered private placements (the “Placements”) of 10,000,000 units (the “Units”) at an issue price of $0.26 per Unit and 12,720,000 flow-through units (the “FT Units”) at an issue price of $0.365 per FT Unit for aggregate gross… Read more »
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$FYI – Lithium Extraction Techniques – A Look At The Latest Technologies And The Companies Involved by Matt Bohlsen @SA Summary Disruptive new lithium extraction technologies use leaching, solvent extraction, geothermal extraction, and electrolysis. Leading companies include Lithium Australia, POSCO, Simbol, Tenova Bateman, ERAMET, Neometals and Nemaska Lithium. New lithium extraction technologies can have large implications for the lithium mining industry. https://seekingalpha.com/article/3988497-lithium-extraction-techniques-look-latest-technologies-companies-involved This is an old(?) article published July of 2016 that I just ran across. What seems significant about this article is that 50% of the Lithium supply comes from lithium brine. Currently processing Lithium brine by evaporation much… Read more »
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Hi all, I’ve taken a large Long position in $EAS – EAST ASIA MINERALS, could be very good If the permits are granted, indications are they should be, finger’s crossed. I’d not want to recommend it to anyone else as I’m far from any expert, so do your own DD as I’m sure you will. It’s a gold play and the gold is already there, they don’t have to find it. It’s Indonesia, so high risk/reward I believe? https://eastasiaminerals.com/ East Asia restarts Indonesian operations – 2017-06-14 01:59 ET – News Release Mr. Terry Filbert reports EAST ASIA MINERALS RESTARTS INDONESIAN… Read more »
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BC area play explorers, not sure where to start with these, I’m holding Long and large all 3. CXO.V – Colorado Resources. MTS.V – Metallis Resources GGI.V – Garibaldi Resources Basicially: CXO had recent drill results in or some of them, not brilliant but lots more going on here, my average 0.285 cad, currently 0.33 down from max of 0.44. They have funds from Goldcorp to do lots more. MTS, did post on this stock early August, since then increased my position considerably, average of 0.335, Friday’s close was 0.72. Should rise from here GGI, (bought into this as it’s… Read more »
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Now I’m only the messenger but I felt that I should at least post this here in case it turns out to be true. As I said earlier I am Long GGI, this information is by 1969Enigma who IMO is trustworthy. This is not a recommendation to buy, do your own DD. Clarity and context. Okay…. so it seems some orginal context of mine is being communicated privately, so here is the entirety of that content along with the cautionary caveats. I will convey with sincerity that the discussions some are having around price point for buy out valuations here… Read more »
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$MUX – MCEWEN MINING ANNOUNCES BOUGHT DEAL OF $40.5 MILLION

http://www.mcewenmining.com/Media-Events/News-Releases/News-Releases-Details/2017/McEwen-Mining-Announces-Bought-Deal-of-405-Million/default.aspx

McEwen buys Black Fox and then announces a loan to pay for it. The stock was down today and after hours reports an additional 5%. There must be more to it.

$MUX long

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Nickel This 1/2 mile deep hole on Mars caused by a meteorite gives a visual of what is thought to have happened at Sudbury Ontario Canada eons ago when a Nickel/Iron meteorite arrived. For many miles around the mine site geologists have found shatter cones in the quarts type rock that indicates such an impact. Iridium is extremely rare on earth and it is found in a very narrow layer earthwide laid down sixty million years ago at the time a giant meteorite hit near Mexico in the gulf. There is a thin layer of carbon/soot on top of the… Read more »
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I have a question for this thread. Of all the stocks that we are advocating here, which ones do you think will hold up best if the market crashes? I like SAND because they get gold, but they also have some debt I believe and I’m wondering how a market crash might effect some of the smaller companies they partner with. Still with regular gold coming in, I’m thinking they should do OK. Cleanteq might do fairly well too, but I would think it would be safer after they are producing. Ivanhoe is not a producer yet, so I’m not… Read more »
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Update on Zonte Resources $ZON.V or $EREPF. Also NRG.V or CMBPF Looking forward to some the release of drilling results on their Yukon property – McConnell’s Jest – in the next couple of weeks. Stock has been slowly creeping up, but is still significantly off it’s highs. I have a big position here and high hopes for good results. This stock still has a very small MC of just 12 million $(US) so LOTS of room to run! $CMBPF As I said before, this one has really fallen since the spectacular drilling results that were release in July, but nothing… Read more »
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$Platinum/South Africa news from Pierce Points: The South African mining industry got more bad news this week. With sources saying major platinum producer Lonmin has been threatened with a possible shutdown of its mines, after being cited by regulators for non-compliance in its local social programs. But elsewhere, the news for platinum producers was even worse. With one of the world’s largest miners saying it may be forced to close a world-leading mining operation. That’s Zimbabwean miner Zimplats. Which said this week that government policies in the troubled nation are threatening to make the Mimosa mine — the country’s largest… Read more »
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We like the turn around in the price of copper and the accompanying increase in Ivanhoe’s stock but does anyone know why the price of Cleanteq’s stock has been falling recently? Is it just profit-taking?

Long IVPAF, CTEQF

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$MX Gold. (TSX-V: MXL) (FSE: ODV) (OTCQX: MXLGF). Interesting junior I have a small position in. They just made a deal for Midas Gold property located immediately north of projects owned by Garibaldi Resources Ltd. (TSX-V:GGI) and Colorado Resources Ltd. (TSX-V:CXO). They have a rather diverse set of projects. And yes they have lots of outstanding shares and just announced another $4M financing.

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It is a real crap shoot eh HN! You can pick up a copy of The Globalization of Poverty by Michel Chossudovsky from Alibris for a buck or two. His bias is evident but his research skills and knowledge are top shelf. There are so many facts related to intentions and effects behind acts of govt and non-government agencies acting in collusion it takes a dedicated outsider to uncover what is and has been going on around the world for the past many decades. This one is not easy to read for content but very easy to read re authorship.… Read more »
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doug, Have you looked at PSLV? I saw HN list it and have researched it (HN, plz feel free to jump in to hit important points I may omit). PSLV is an unleveraged physical silver closed ETF. It seems to offer the easy of trading with the safety of physical storage. They do offer bullion delivery – with a catch. You must take 10 London bars (1000 oz each) and pay all expenses. If one has enough physical silver on hand (I’ve had junk silver since the late 70’s), then this looks to be a more convenient and safe place.… Read more »
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Thanks for the post deanbob. I have not looked at $PSLV. For the time being I am going conservative re my holdings and just accumulating information and a handful of coins here and there. My confidence level is at an all time low, if I miss a gain I will not second guess my choice but you can bet I will keep a well stocked watch list. The more I see politically, socially, economically, and geologically the less positive I feel about where we are headed and the pace of getting there. I am not an end of the world… Read more »
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Doug, as a former Boy Scout, I think one of my greatest takeaways was the motto, “Be prepared.” To that end, I view education/knowledge is power/freedom. And thanks to HN and all of the posters on this and the CleanTeq boards, I have learned a lot and hope I can find relevant things to share. As to TSHTF, I share your concern. There are many scenarios that being prepared (water, food, protection, cash, silver coins, & a decent first aid kit built up over time) can address. Ultimately, each of us does what we can to prepare so we and… Read more »
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Re Ivanhoe here is link showing location As you will note that is near the southern border of DRC with Zambia and just east of the 3 way point where they meet Angola. That is a very volatile politically part of Africa. The Countries are mostly Socialist in nature and always short of funds, often exacerbated by corruption of leaders. DRC owns 5% of Ivanhoe.and Zijin mining owns 49.5% of remainder, for which they paid $412 million. $206 million lump to start and then five payments to complete other $2o6 million, now fully paid. It certainly looks like this will… Read more »
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I think with a Chinese company owning such a large chunk of Ivanhoe the DRC is less likely to nationalize the mine. China invests a lot in Africa so it probably wouldn’t make sense for the DRC to screw with them. I’m long Ivanhoe and I’m not that concerned about the DRC yet, but of course I’ll be keeping an eye on it.

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#rocketman
Beware, Pres. Trump knows who you are. ;>)

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Wait wait,,,don’t touch that suitcase,,,,,,nuke???? 🙂

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$PVG – Brucejack Mine Update

http://www.pretivm.com/news/news-details/2017/Pretium-Resources-Inc-Brucejack-Mine-Update/default.aspx

HN, is this what you were waiting for.

PVG np

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The picture at the top of Pretium report shows flocculation flotation recovery of gold from the ore. Similar to the detergent  and water in your home washing machine. The finely ground gold is recovered from a slurry of fluid and ground ore by aerating so that it floats on the liquid, leaving gangue behind. They claim 95% recovery which is very good at the design capacity of 2700 tonnes per day.
Dore’ which is mentioned is combined silver and gold, similar to Electrum.

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$MUX – McEwen Mining Announces Bought Deal of $40.5 Million http://www.mcewenmining.com/Media-Events/News-Releases/News-Releases-Details/2017/McEwen-Mining-Announces-Bought-Deal-of-405-Million/default.aspx I think I may have already posted this link but I received another email this morn with a better break down of the math so I thought I’d post again with a C&T of the break down. Math of MUX Bought Deal Financing Based on terms in our Sept.18, 2017 press release 1. In $US 2. US$2.43 NYSE closing share price on Sept.18, 2017 3. US$2.25 financing price on Sept.19, 2017 4. $2.25 purchases 1 share plus ½ warrant Warrant term: 53 weeks from closing Warrant exercise price: $2.70… Read more »
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$MUX. Thanks for the breakdown. I’ve been watching the share price since the financing announcement and have been pondering where a good entry point might be. Looking at the charts hasn’t been much help. Any thoughts?

v/r
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$MUX, I’ve been getting the Gold Investment newsletter (the freebie) and according to Mike this gold pullback was expected. From GI letter”I indicated my view was that gold would pull back again to under $1,300 before making a run to $1,400, which we are seeing now. There are a couple of key levels technically to consider, the most important of which is shown in the attached chart. It is very common after a breakout above a previous trend line high that the stock/commodity will retest the top of the trend line, which is support. My line isn’t perfect but that… Read more »
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$MUX. $ASWRF. MXLGF. Griffin. Appreciate your thoughts on gold and MUX. I also get the freebie GI letter and had previously picked up shares in $ASWRF. The other little company I mentioned a few days ago, MX Gold, is “currently” doing well during this pull back, too. The challenge with these juniors is to hopefully buy cheap prior to promotion/distribution phase and be able to benefit as they move up or down. Another good source to follow on Gold/Silver is Doug Eberhardt. I believe him to be very honest and very rationale with regards to the pros/cons of what can… Read more »
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$KDKGD – Klondike Gold Corp. Joins The Gold Rush
by Matt Bohlsen@SA

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4108664-klondike-gold-corp-joins-gold-rush?uprof=46&isDirectRoadblock=true

I think I may have posted Klondike Gold already but this is a good write up also as before this a risky speculation. Drilling is being done and should they find the mother lode 1906 gold rush it could be yuge.

$KDKGF np

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What is your rational that gold and silver prices are “gold and silver prices have been and continue to be a target of manipulation and price suppression by powerful groups, including and especially governments and central banks”. What technical indicators are you using in deciding to buy or sell a position? Personally, I don’t care if the government or other powerful groups are moving the price of gold or silver. I care about any observable cyclic nature of the price which can be detected by technical indicators to increase my probability of a successful directional trade. But I trade various… Read more »
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Short term
Ted Butler has been writing and providing evidence about the silver market manipulation for decades.

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Quick. Send me all your gold and I will supply metal head covering [tin foil] to ward off Nibiru before tomorrows crash. OOPs you waited too long and offer is canceled. 🙂

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4909174/MoD-expert-speaks-against-Nibiru-conspiracy-theory.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

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