Friday File Part One: Hedging

by Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe | January 26, 2018 5:15 pm

Outlining my new (simple and limited) hedging strategy

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27 responses to “Friday File Part One: Hedging”

  1. jeremiahberndt says:

    Question: I have considered placing a similar hedge in my portfolio, ( I may wait till March) but I am curious what you think about placing the Puts on QQQ? I have heard that the stocks that drive most of the market run-up often suffer the most in the downturns. I wondered if it might be as effective to hedge there? My portfolio also might be a little more speculative and tech heavy.

  2. joenw says:

    I was convinced the market would dive about a year ago and bought SDS and SPXU ETF’s. Obviously a very expensive mistake. I’ve read the Buffet approach is to just hold regardless, since the stocks will come back and timing is impossible. I did buy more stocks early 2008 which worked out well. Whether or not to sell or short the market during a crash is one of the most confusing things about investing. For me, doing little or nothing has worked out best.

  3. idrea_ramaci says:

    I keep 10% open stop loss orders on practically all my positions. In the event of a widespread market downturn, I’ll retain most of my capital plus whatever gains… and reassess what to get back into as prevailing circumstances become clearer.

  4. sureshsetty says:

    Hi Travis, what’s the best way to hold physical precious metals? do we keep them with us physically or use some thrid part repository interms of allocated or allocated metals? Your thoughts and insights are hightly appreciated.

  5. wimvlb65 says:

    Travis , I am using the same method as you .. they way I look at my 1 % hedging cost is that it is roughly the same as what an advisor would cost me , except he can not protect me against losses. The only thing I do a bit different is that I only go out about 6 months and I tend to roll them after a big runup to recapture some premium and lock in a higher strike. Alternatively there are structured products for sale that will give you 100% of your principal back plus a percentage of the upside of the underlying index ( sometimes 100% ) .

  6. fishingfanatics1 says:

    Thank you for the great lesson on hedging. I had heard that term, but was unsure just what it was, and how it worked. Old minds like mine (80 yrs) take a bit more info to assimilate and formulate a working idea.

  7. fatboy2281 says:

    TJ,
    how and when do you cash in the “put” hedge?
    How did the “call” on QQQ start and end?
    I just can’t wrap my head around Options.
    I’ve been an Irregular for a long time so I should understand but I don”t.

  8. rgalvin says:

    Same question as above. Difficulty getting my head around puts and calls

  9. stephen.e.mandell says:

    Ditto x2 !

  10. michaelbegley says:

    We have not mentioned taxes here. For Travis’s position in FB, he could be up several hundred percent. If he sold it in a taxable account, a large chunk of his investment would be given to federal and state taxes. It would not be available to invest in something else. Hedging with put options allows him to keep all his FB gains working for him in the market.

  11. Thanks for the questions on options, I’ll try to go into that in more detail later (though I don’t typically get into the greeks and the technicals).

    Almost all options are bought and sold without actually dealing with the underlying stock. You buy a put option to purchase the right to sell a Stock (put the stock to someone else) at a given price… you buy a call option to purchase the right to buy the stock (call it away from someone else) at a specific price. I’m that case, the transactions would be a “buy to open” when you want to purchase it and a “sell to close” when you want to sell back your rights.

    If you don’t sell to close by the expiration date, your broker will likely act to exercise the option for you even if that’s not what you want, so remember to keep an eye on the option around exploration.

    Prices quoted for options are per share in the brokerage trading screen, but each option contract represents 100 shares, so multiply the price by 100 to get the current cost of a single 100-share contract. And bid/ask spreads for almost all option contracts are wide, with little liquidity, so be mindful of that. Basic commissions are usually similar to stock commissions at most discount brokers, but they do also tack on per-contract fees that add up quickly if you’re buying more than a couple contracts.

    But the basic mechanics of it are that when buying these options you “buy to open” and purchasing that option contract gives you the right but not the obligation to exercise the option… and if you want out, either to take profits or to cut losses or for whatever other reason, you “sell to close” the contract.

    Selling options is more reliably profitable and provides fewer daydreams of wealth (better odds, less dramatic return if you’re right), and is essentially the opposite — you sell to open to offer someone else the option at a price (in which case, since you’re selling the option you DO have the obligation to fulfill and your broker will set some of your account aside to meet that potential obligation), and buy to close if you want to get rid of the obligation.

    More later, but hopefully that shows the basics. I show my options positions but don’t often write a lot about them, they are generally high-risk and low-cost speculations or ways to slightly lever-up an equity position I like… other than this hedging position, which is a whole different kettle of fish.

    I often look at it this way: options let me do something small and crazy, and that keeps my inner gambler happy and keeps me from doing something big and crazy.

  12. chojnowski says:

    Thanks for this precious article Travis 🙂

    I ckecked on my brooker (De Giro, I live in France) and I was only able to find this option : US SPX500 currently priced at $ 2.865,36 so 10x the SPY.

    If I buy this one, would that correspond to the same option you took ? I can’t find any dates or anything…

  13. jeremiahberndt says:

    This hedge article now seems especially prescient. I will be trusting Travis’s market forecasting as the gospel. 😉

  14. solarpowernerd says:

    Thanks for the explanation last week on the SPY put. Bought several contracts on 29 Jan and boy o boy that worked like a champ! Thanks for sharing.

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