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Scandium, Cobalt, and Water Purification: Clean Teq Holdings,Volume 2, 2018

By hendrixnuzzles, January 31, 2018

2017 was a year of tremendous accomplishment for Clean Teq Holdings in every respect.

We saw remarkable achievements in mine construction, in finance, and in market development, with landmark contracts in every business segment;

We saw a complex business appear as if by magic, including business offices on four continents, and the launch of business website in the water division;

We were informed of superb existing and newly-formed strategic partnerships,
with the likes of Airbus, Peng-Xin Mining, Chinese state and power entities, Chinalco, and Multotec;

We were witness to a major off-take agreement with a leading battery manufacture;

We learned of an astute acquisition of a controlling interest in a VRB business by Mr. Friedland;

We learned of deep and valuable research and development support at prestigious universities and manufacturers;
and we became sure of unseen low-cost manufacturing contacts and alliances.

And oh-by-the-way, we got a listing on the TSX.

The company inspires confidence and optimism. Robert Friedland has a deep long-term strategy, and he knows what he is doing.
I am not sure what is more impressive: His strategic vision, or his managerial talent in executing it.

Clean Teq is a company that is worth following. It is by far my largest position.
There are a lot of companies with good concepts. But Clean Teq has a deep and brilliant strategic concept which is at the heart of major world trends; a revolutionary technology; and a management that executes flawlessly.
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GOING FORWARD: SUITABLE TOPICS FOR THIS THREAD

1. CLEAN TEQ HOLDINGS, CLEAN TEQ WATER, and their interests, or related companies.

2. Miners and producers of COBALT, VANADIUM, SCANDIUM; also nickel, zinc, graphite, lithium, rare earths, silica, and manganese.

3. WATER PURIFICATION, especially when tied into mineral extraction therefrom.

4. “TECHNO MINERS” and other innovators in mining and material extraction

See notes below on thread and topic overlaps, which are unavoidable.
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One year ago this week, I wrote an article on Clean Teq Holdings. It was a speculative company, but
one with a visionary and proven leader, dramatic potential in specific, attractive commodities,
innovative methods and IP for mineral extraction, and big ambitions in water purification.

Clean Teq Holdings defied easy categorization, and continues to do so.
One year later, Clean Teq has not disappointed. Clean Teq has exceeded all reasonable expectations.
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If you need background on Clean Teq, I refer you to the predecessor of this thread: “Scandium, Cobalt,
and Water Purification: Clean Teq Holdings”, where you will also find the guidelines and rules for this
thread; and to the Clean Teq and Clean Teq Water websites, which warrant close examination.

OUR BIAS AND BASIC VIEW
This thread is for those who believe in the coming EV wave, light weighting of transport, and most importantly,
in the importance of energy storage and batteries of all scales;
and also, it is for those who believe that the disruptions caused thereby will be rapid.

Because of this opinion, it follows that the existing viable battery technologies and the materials needed
for them are important. We anticipate rapid change; we subscribe to the Tony Seba “Disruption Scenario”,
that suggests disruptiv changes are occuring faster.
If you disagree with the Disruption Scenario, or the eventual proliferation of EVs,
that is fine; but please do not debate it on this thread. The thread is for those who believe in the future of battery power,
and in the immediate opporunities in commodities related to batteries and energy storage.
We will be able to see in shortly whether we are right or wrong in this belief.
If it takes longer than we think, we will complain about ”being early.”

My perspective is for the next five years. That is “long term”. This is not a trading thread.
Occasionally short-term opportunities are appropriate to call out,
but short-term trading is not the emphasis here.

On the other hand should restrain ourselves from too much attention
to developments and materials for technologies that are likely to take longer than five years to have an impact.
We are looking for investable ideas, not 10 year forecasts on the Future of Civilization.
So let’s keep it down on hydrogen fuel cells and molten salt batteries for a couple of months.
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NOTES ON THREAD AND TOPIC OVERLAPS
Our assumption is that Li-NCM, VRB’s, and zinc batteries are going to be the main battery formats purchased,
installed or contracted for in the near-term, hence the commodities needed for them are of interest.

New battery technologies are better discussed on the #batteries thread ,
unless they involve a vertical commodity/battery producer.
We are interested in what is going to have an impact in five years.

For example, if you are convinced that Google is about to conquer the world with a molten salt battery,
then come on over here and recommend Morton Salt as a buy-out candidate.

But debate whether molten salt batteries have a future, and when, on the #batteries thread.

News that shows increasing penetration on solar are relevant,
as they confirm the importance of large-scale energy storage.
But we would like to know who is getting the contracts and what type of battery they are using.

There is going to be some unavoidable overlap. Nickel and manganese sources are swing metals,
sometimes they may be better discussed on the Hard Asset thread as base metals.

If you make a post on the wrong thread, don’t worry too much, there are
no fines or jail time. I do it myself all the time and I understand it can be confusing.
You can also use Travis’ new cross-reference gizmo.

Long $CTEQF $CLQ Clean Teq Holdings

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catherine
July 7, 2018 10:34 am
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

Re: Moderation.
You’re listed as a guest as you’re writing now. Could that be a contributing factor?

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Irregular
July 7, 2018 1:48 pm
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So who does the moderating? I always thought that SGumshoe’s chosen software monitored “questionable” content in Gummyland only. Does software everywhere act the same way and hold the same criteria?

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d.mounts
July 7, 2018 2:08 pm
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edski, from my experiences commenting on different sites, the moderator software can vary from site to site. Sometimes a single word added/removed can make the difference whether a post goes in moderation of not. I have found this out by taking a post flagged for moderation, copied and deleted a word at a time until I found the offending word. When that word was removed, my comment would be posted without moderation. I first thought it would be a phrase that would trigger the moderation; but I never found that to be true. However, it just may be I did not run across ‘the phrase’ that triggered moderation. …Just my 2 cents worth of experience!

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Irregular
July 7, 2018 3:49 pm
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Thanks deanbob. I don’t know anything about that business, and even if it’s a business by itself or part of a package deal.

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Shavian
July 7, 2018 3:12 am
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My last two posts were similarly moderated HN; I though it might have been because I was a bit rude about FGR and its CEO.

No matter. Here’s a good article about cobalt from Seeking Alpha, which mentions Australian cobalt in a favourable light. Let’s see if they moderate this one.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4185587-glencore-providing-cobalt-tech-car-companies-need-survive

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Shavian
July 7, 2018 3:13 am
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Edit: they didn’t

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secretsquirrel
July 7, 2018 1:49 pm
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Are we implying this is trigger word computer editing from outside?

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Sarah
July 8, 2018 5:57 am
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All this is very true, but I don’t worry about what I can’t change. Yes, theoretically ‘they’ may be able to watch you watching TV, or listen to you chatting to your girlfriend, but they would need at least three people devoted to doing this in 3 shifts per every day. That means 75% of people on the planet would need to be employed in surveying the 25%. And who is gonna survey the 75%? It ain’t gonna happen. What potentially could happen is that the info is recorded and stored so that if you were suspected of say terrorism, they could look back to review what you said to whom.
A BIG part of this surveillance is designed to wipe out the black cash economy. People often ask me ‘How much for cash guv’ . I say. I dont want cash thanks. I cant bank the cash without creating a record. I cant pay a utility bill, or credit card online, or buy a car thats registered to me or family member etc etc. Un-banked cash also skews your credit ratings…..you look too poor to be credit worthy. About all you can do is use it for disposable items like beer and cigarettes. Tax law is different (in UK) to all other laws. It presumes you are guilty until proven innocent. By this means if the taxman suspects you’ve been chiselling him, he can simply estimate your taxable income….then its for you to prove him wrong. So if I used cash to routinely buy your food say, he could tot up how much you’d legitimately spent on food this year….compare it to the national average and ask ‘If you eat so little, how come you’re 280lbs? If he has a reasonable doubt, he throws an inflated estimate at you and leaves you to accept it or go to court to disprove it.
Yes, Big Brother is recording you….get used to it coz its such a powerful tool that it aint going away

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secretsquirrel
July 7, 2018 1:51 pm
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Well “they” just put my last post into moderation.
Contained no links. And it said very little with no links in….

Irregular
July 7, 2018 3:51 pm
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Maybe the word ‘trigger’, given today’s atmosphere.

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Irregular
July 7, 2018 2:33 pm

$CLQ lp
I do not recall this ever being mentioned, but….I don’t really want to bring it up with all of our current speculation consuming so much time….I will anyway, just for yucks.

Spin-off’s! There are so many possible individual businesses coming out of the CLQ Empire. While I am not investing in CLQ with that in mind, every week I feel as though I am checking into a different company / division. I can see this happening in the future, with no timeline suggested at all.

Part of this comes from the fact that CLQ’s massive involvement in so many areas cannot be fully absorbed by Mr. Market. It does seem to be a wild dream to go after all of these different minerals and inventions at once, and I THINK I know what’s going on.

Maybe the company as a whole can make it as one conglomerate. But maybe, I don’t know, a little separation and breathing room between a couple of endeavor’s might help share price.

Thoughts?

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Sarah
July 8, 2018 4:51 am
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I have always thought that CLQ is too multi faceted……it deflects their managements and Mr Markets focus. I believe they will hive off water, battery recycling and everything else that presently adds no value to its SP, , and focus on the pure mine operation. I think their institutional investors will demand this. But RF will defo keep a financial interest in the overall pie rather than sell them lock stock and barrel…..maybe through Ivanhoe Capital.

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Sarah
July 8, 2018 5:00 am
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My worry is that RF may effect this ‘transfer’ at a nominal price arguing that their present contribution to CLQ’s sp is nominal.
As has been said, RF is a major personal shareholder in CLQ so he wont want to see any form of CLQ share dilution. By simply transferring the assets across from CLQ to Ivanhoe Capital, in effect, he would just be transferring the value from one of his pockets to the other. But it would sure dilute the rest of us in the longer term.

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sarahh
July 9, 2018 5:49 pm
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

For once Ill have to disagree with you incertain respects.
” Or the mine wastewater projects, which will have both organic and metal extraction and water purification aspects” Simple…you contract them to do the job and pay them a fee.
”But I would prefer to see one controlling entity at the top of it all: : CLQ, Robert Friedland, and the Board of Clean Teq.” Well in part, RF will grant your wish. He will be at the head of each segment.

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Irregular
July 10, 2018 10:13 am
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I would LOVE to see CLQ Headquarters Office!

Unless they have a few for different operations, then that would show that despite working together, seperation is needed to make sure all the facts and figures to their own area of operation remain constant and exact.

Another thing about spinn off’s, Negotiations between different partners, legal matters,(lawsuits), individual pricing, would not be aimed at just one massive conglomerate. They would be “protected” from each other. Then again, some government could then call into play collusion and price fixing.

Never an easy option these days. As if RF doesn’t have enough on his plate! How? How can he do it?

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secretsquirrel
July 7, 2018 6:44 pm

Apologies if posted but we’ll worth reading, in fact ESSENTIAL

Thoughts??

https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/how-china-muscling-lithium-ion-batteries

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d.mounts
July 9, 2018 11:44 am
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Both sides of the (US) aisle are too busy enriching themselves to give a rat’s okole about their constituents! But that doesn’t stop me from hoping they’ll wake up.

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Sarah
July 8, 2018 3:38 am
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Hn: If the above is an example, youre signing in as a guest rather than as an irregular. The system frequently moderates guests comments, (especially if its a new email address or IP via a VPN,) to stop spam abuse. I also assume the moderator is human, so I doubt they will release the posts till after the weekend when the footies finished…..Englands in the semi-finals? Say WHAAAAAT!!

July 8, 2018 2:35 pm
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Hi- If you are not logged in to the site and are posting as a guest, the comment will go to moderation. You need to be logged in to your account (you know you’re logged in when you see “Good Afternoon Hendrixnuzzles” in the upper left hand corner of the page. Otherwise, you are posting as a guest. Please let me know if you have any questions… .lynn.com

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Irregular
July 10, 2018 11:33 am
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HN….please speak a little louder and more towards your coffee cup…thank you.

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Sarah
July 10, 2018 5:31 pm
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Ill tell you a funny story about that. Ive worked for the London Russian Embassy for 30yrs. When I first went there I was expecting fur hats and Kalashnikov rifles. I was nervous when taken down to the basement boiler room. At the end of the corridor there was a back door…..it had a chair placed against it. I asked ‘Whats that?’ Oh the locks broken so we jammed it under the handle to stop it blowing open. !!!
Another.
I proposed to install a wifi controlled room thermostat in every flat of their military attache’s staff accommodation. I handed them one to have it checked out. They looked a little askance and said what is dis for. . Well I thought your security would want to check it for bugs? Who cares….Im more concerned about the bugs in my bed. Just fit them Sarah.
I swear these stories are true. So dont make me laugh with Boris is watching you.

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Irregular
July 10, 2018 11:34 am

Nice link under the “join the discussion” box.
Thanks Lynn!

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July 10, 2018 1:00 pm
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secretsquirrel
July 10, 2018 5:13 pm
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Always hard to know as I’m far from any expert but I see this as little more than trying to supress the demand price. All indicators are is that cobalt is essential to battery stability. We know all why, reducing boom disasters.

Thus the reason I’m heavily invested in nickel,

Question more importantly is nickel replaceable? (note see my previous post!)

Next is, is vanadium on its way out….

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Sarah
July 10, 2018 5:49 pm
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SS: Things are moving at such a rate. Who can predict what new innovations will come to pass in 2years? The only solution is to invest in miners that are producing current technology metals today, and jump ship when the wind changes.

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Sarah
July 10, 2018 6:00 pm
Reply to  hendrixnuzzles

HN: Going back to the reassurance of China’s 5 year plan, I agree we are safe for 3+ years. But Ive got my parachute ready. Its a bit like bio….a cure for cancer may be being developed today, but it’ll take 5 years of proving before chemo drugs are taken off the market.

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renbycage
July 20, 2018 10:30 am
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I’m not that worried about the future of cobalt, in an electrified world, cobalt will have its place, there will be all kinds of alternatives, but that will be more because cobalt supply and price could be a problem, not because cobalt will be rendered obsolete. The ethical cobalt that is produced should get sucked up, and at a good price. How good, who knows. I am also bullish on premium class nickel, perhaps even more so. And 5 years out, scandium, though it would surprise me to see any kind of scandium off take for at least 3 years, maybe 5, though it wouldn’t shock me.

I have a problem understanding the concept that when institutions are accumulating a stock, the stock price goes down. That seems ridiculous to me. Sure, I’ve been educated on manipulation, bots, especially on the australian exchange, which seems really loose on what they are allowing. I think those kinds of programs are designed to give day traders and shorters an advantage at any given moment, not for long term accumulation. Any kind of high volume buying should result in the stock price going up. If someone thinks I’m wrong on this, I’d love to see some evidence or link to an article that explains how large volume accumulating buyers are able to sink the stock price in order to get cheaper shares. If the demand to buy is high, the price goes up, thats economics 101. If the stock price goes down, some retail owners will get scared and sell, others will see the opportunity to buy shares on sale, I find it incredule that driving the price down creates significant selling pressure for high volume buyers to take advantage of. Logic dictates If they want retail stockholders to sell in volume, they have to offer them a compelling price, not a lowball offer.

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Sarah
July 20, 2018 3:11 pm
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Renby: I have the greatest respect for your thinking, and ‘obvious’ logic says you are right. My theory is that Oz is a relatively small market and as we know, brokers only make money by trading stock. Add to this (as you say) the OZ market is skewed toward day traders (Ozzys loooove a gamble)….perhaps this combination is why its so volotle. So if the brokers know there’s volume (commission) to be had from trading even at lowball prices, they may spread the word to the gamblers that ‘this ones headed south….get out now at 60 and get back in at 47’. Thats my 2 cents.

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rubberworm
July 10, 2018 8:05 pm
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I agree big time with SS nickel battery grade will be a killer. That is why RF is looking into Sama. And also agree big time with nuzzles about sc and CLQ. CLQ will be the one to bring sc to market on a large market. CLQ will have the lowest price offering for sc in the world as I see it. 4 years from now I think I will be very happy with my CLQ and SME holdings.

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Irregular
July 10, 2018 3:29 pm

$LGORF
Latest quarterly post up 11% in Vanadium
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/largo-resources-reports-second-quarter-160100042.html

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July 11, 2018 9:01 am
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July 12, 2018 3:59 am
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vanadium r d too in progress

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Irregular
July 11, 2018 6:57 pm

$FGR.ASX lp
Battery update and Graphene

https://hotcopper.com.au/threads/ann-best-battery-technology-update.4300254/?source=email#.W0aKLNVKiM_

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July 11, 2018 10:32 pm
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Yes edski, progressing nicely, the IP Best Battery FGR Asx, still has awhile to go, but at this stage promising.
Currently 4/5 times better than the current market leaders, Skeleton Technologies whose best released UC is 6.7 wh/l.

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sarah
July 12, 2018 4:24 am
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Interesting video. The guy (with the worst wig in the world) talks about the battery being used to compliment existing batteries (not to replace them) to achieve acceleration. Sounds a bit like the role existing Hybrid batteries play with petrol for cruising once youve got up to speed.

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Irregular
July 17, 2018 8:56 am
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Yes, I agree it wouldn’t be to replace anything, but in grid situations, instantaneous power is needed for un- interrupted supply.
I believe that this is a part of the chain of operation.

July 12, 2018 4:05 am

mgx doing r d on vadadium from petcoke.

Irregular
July 12, 2018 12:00 pm
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$MGX
Here is the link….
you knew the new technologies were going to clean up the brine, so let’s get those extra minerals while we’re at it !
https://www.mgxminerals.com/investors/news/2018/377-mgx-minerals-and-engineering-partner-highbury-energy-announce-r-d-for-petroleum-coke-to-synthetic-crude-oil-gasification-with-vanadium-nickel-cobalt-extraction.htm

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Griffin
July 12, 2018 9:24 am

$ECSIF v – eCobalt Provides Construction Update for its Idaho Cobalt Project

Highlights of completed works on the mine site to date include:

Activation of a manned Security Check Point at the property access road.
Moving of over 70,000 tons of crushed aggregate to the mine site for construction activities.
Engineering, fabrication and delivery of the Water Treatment Plant (“WTP”).
Preparation of the WTP site for building construction.
Establishment of a concrete batch plant on site with contractor QA/QC laboratory.
Provisions on site for emergency medical services.

http://www.ecobalt.com/news/news-releases/ecobalt-provides-construction-update-for-its-idaho-20180712

$ECSIF long

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secretsquirrel
July 12, 2018 10:22 am

Mentions CLQ.

New Supply Chain Needed as Congo Cobalt Buyers Face Child Labor Scrutiny

NEWS PROVIDED BY
MarketNewsUpdates.com
11 Jul, 2018, 13:45 BST

http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/new-supply-chain-needed-as-congo-cobalt-buyers-face-child-labor-scrutiny-687881481.html

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July 12, 2018 11:56 am

zinx ncx batteris from mgx to b the future now being mfg. see website

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rubberworm
July 12, 2018 6:06 pm
renbycage
July 13, 2018 12:37 am

These laterite projects are no easy deal. And anyone into cleanteq or the cobalt space has taken a licking this year, ouch. But that is the nature of the beast, in the commodity space. My own hypothesis is the price of nickel and cobalt have to go significantly up from here, over the next 2-5 years, and I’ve said it before, up way higher than anyone is thinking right now. But then low and behold, someone did come out with an article that nickel will double in the next two years. I’m pretty sure the world is going to need all the nickel and cobalt sulphate it can find, and what you have seen this year is even the very best deposits in the world are sketchy economical. And that means the price is going to go way higher, so even some pathetic deposits become economical, the ones that will be making the big money are the ones that look a bit sketchy now, but at $20 nickel, will look like money presses. Of all the companies I follow, Ardea seems like the opportunity of a lifetime right now, as the present price is just the kind of dream I look for. That deposit is crazy, look at the numbers, it is already super conservative 100 billion IGV, if you want to project scandium you could see 200B. Its MC is US$60M. Compare that to lets say Seabridge Gold. What is their IGV and what is their MC and cost of mine etc.? Ardea has quite a few economic advantages, consider themselves “technically low risk” since they are using proven 5th generation techniques, they actually have an easy ore to mine, as well as neutralizer which is a big money saver. they also have a mess of other deposits, and I expect a spin off at some point, based on their own guidance, they’ve got gold and other stuff. I think the price, at a 52 week low, is an amazing opportunity in this space, if the nickel and cobalt prices do what many believe in the next 2-5 years, the timing may be unbelievable for a 5 bagger potential or who knows? They have at least an equal deposit to CLQ, actually its way bigger if you count the whole thing, and 1/7 the MC. At the present price, I switched over a huge glob of CTEQF money to ARFFF, I love both companies, but my thought is ARFFF could move super fast, while CTEQF is priced high for a company that may not make a profit for 5 years or longer, I think they’ll be entries in the future, right now I’d buy back the shares I sold between 68-70 cents for 45 cents if it falls that low. I prefer it goes up for the shares I presently hold.

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sarahh
July 13, 2018 4:58 am
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Renby: What/when is the next ardea catalyst?

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eagerbeaver
July 13, 2018 7:09 pm
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Renby,

I completely agree with everything you say about Ardea’s rich resource, multiple assets, and low market cap. I would also add that it has about $20 million AUD in cash. It has hired KPMG to manage negotiations with interested parties, and its flagship Goongarrie Nickel-Cobalt Project is located in Western Australia in “the tier-one mining jurisdiction of Kalgoorlie, which offers world-class infrastructure in an established mining hub” as they say on their website. Their Goongarrie resource is close to major smelting and refining facilities, some of which are owned by a potentially interested party, BHP. I hold both CleanTeq and Ardea but the latter is now my biggest holding. IMO it is a screaming buy at these prices.

Long $ARRRF, $CTEQF

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July 13, 2018 4:15 pm
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buy more stock, this will b huge. im in

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July 15, 2018 12:02 pm

$CLQ Mr. Stockgumshoe, Travis, made a small add-on purchase and had some positive comments;
https://www.stockgumshoe.com/2018/07/friday-file-portfolio-transactions-catch-up-2-sells-5-buys/

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