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written by reader Scandium, Cobalt, and Water Purification: Clean Teq Holdings,Volume 2, 2018

By hendrixnuzzles, January 31, 2018

2017 was a year of tremendous accomplishment for Clean Teq Holdings in every respect.

We saw remarkable achievements in mine construction, in finance, and in market development, with landmark contracts in every business segment;

We saw a complex business appear as if by magic, including business offices on four continents, and the launch of business website in the water division;

We were informed of superb existing and newly-formed strategic partnerships,
with the likes of Airbus, Peng-Xin Mining, Chinese state and power entities, Chinalco, and Multotec;

We were witness to a major off-take agreement with a leading battery manufacture;

We learned of an astute acquisition of a controlling interest in a VRB business by Mr. Friedland;

We learned of deep and valuable research and development support at prestigious universities and manufacturers;
and we became sure of unseen low-cost manufacturing contacts and alliances.

And oh-by-the-way, we got a listing on the TSX.

The company inspires confidence and optimism. Robert Friedland has a deep long-term strategy, and he knows what he is doing.
I am not sure what is more impressive: His strategic vision, or his managerial talent in executing it.

Clean Teq is a company that is worth following. It is by far my largest position.
There are a lot of companies with good concepts. But Clean Teq has a deep and brilliant strategic concept which is at the heart of major world trends; a revolutionary technology; and a management that executes flawlessly.
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GOING FORWARD: SUITABLE TOPICS FOR THIS THREAD

1. CLEAN TEQ HOLDINGS, CLEAN TEQ WATER, and their interests, or related companies.

2. Miners and producers of COBALT, VANADIUM, SCANDIUM; also nickel, zinc, graphite, lithium, rare earths, silica, and manganese.

3. WATER PURIFICATION, especially when tied into mineral extraction therefrom.

4. “TECHNO MINERS” and other innovators in mining and material extraction

See notes below on thread and topic overlaps, which are unavoidable.
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One year ago this week, I wrote an article on Clean Teq Holdings. It was a speculative company, but
one with a visionary and proven leader, dramatic potential in specific, attractive commodities,
innovative methods and IP for mineral extraction, and big ambitions in water purification.

Clean Teq Holdings defied easy categorization, and continues to do so.
One year later, Clean Teq has not disappointed. Clean Teq has exceeded all reasonable expectations.
**
If you need background on Clean Teq, I refer you to the predecessor of this thread: “Scandium, Cobalt,
and Water Purification: Clean Teq Holdings”, where you will also find the guidelines and rules for this
thread; and to the Clean Teq and Clean Teq Water websites, which warrant close examination.

OUR BIAS AND BASIC VIEW
This thread is for those who believe in the coming EV wave, light weighting of transport, and most importantly,
in the importance of energy storage and batteries of all scales;
and also, it is for those who believe that the disruptions caused thereby will be rapid.

Because of this opinion, it follows that the existing viable battery technologies and the materials needed
for them are important. We anticipate rapid change; we subscribe to the Tony Seba “Disruption Scenario”,
that suggests disruptiv changes are occuring faster.
If you disagree with the Disruption Scenario, or the eventual proliferation of EVs,
that is fine; but please do not debate it on this thread. The thread is for those who believe in the future of battery power,
and in the immediate opporunities in commodities related to batteries and energy storage.
We will be able to see in shortly whether we are right or wrong in this belief.
If it takes longer than we think, we will complain about ”being early.”

My perspective is for the next five years. That is “long term”. This is not a trading thread.
Occasionally short-term opportunities are appropriate to call out,
but short-term trading is not the emphasis here.

On the other hand should restrain ourselves from too much attention
to developments and materials for technologies that are likely to take longer than five years to have an impact.
We are looking for investable ideas, not 10 year forecasts on the Future of Civilization.
So let’s keep it down on hydrogen fuel cells and molten salt batteries for a couple of months.
**
NOTES ON THREAD AND TOPIC OVERLAPS
Our assumption is that Li-NCM, VRB’s, and zinc batteries are going to be the main battery formats purchased,
installed or contracted for in the near-term, hence the commodities needed for them are of interest.

New battery technologies are better discussed on the #batteries thread ,
unless they involve a vertical commodity/battery producer.
We are interested in what is going to have an impact in five years.

For example, if you are convinced that Google is about to conquer the world with a molten salt battery,
then come on over here and recommend Morton Salt as a buy-out candidate.

But debate whether molten salt batteries have a future, and when, on the #batteries thread.

News that shows increasing penetration on solar are relevant,
as they confirm the importance of large-scale energy storage.
But we would like to know who is getting the contracts and what type of battery they are using.

There is going to be some unavoidable overlap. Nickel and manganese sources are swing metals,
sometimes they may be better discussed on the Hard Asset thread as base metals.

If you make a post on the wrong thread, don’t worry too much, there are
no fines or jail time. I do it myself all the time and I understand it can be confusing.
You can also use Travis’ new cross-reference gizmo.

Long $CTEQF $CLQ Clean Teq Holdings

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edski
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August 7, 2018 10:05 am

$FLC:AU lp
First sale of water filtration in US. Check out partnering company in link.
Could be a big sale.

https://www.fluencecorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/1828223.pdf

https://waterfleet.com/

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renbycage
renbycage
August 7, 2018 12:32 pm

Holy volatility Batman. I took a pretty aggressive position with Cellcube Energy Storage Systems [CECBF] a few weeks ago, a vanadium redox flow battery play, and it almost immediately started gyrating 10-15% a day, mostly down. I had already purchased it close to its 52 week low, and for a company that is so advanced in a market that is set to dramatically grow, it was like, whats going on here. Anyway, the company addressed the stock volatility in a statement today, which included a nice summary of the frenetic activity going on with the company on a development level. Considering they already announced they are spinning off their Vanadium mine, with investors of record receiving a share of the news public company for every 2 shares held of CECBF, [with a september date looming], and considering the present price relative to its history, and the ambitions of the company, looks like a screaming buy to me. here’s the release: CellCube Provides Corporate Update, Comments on Unusual Trading ActivityFont size: A | A | A
11:50 AM ET 8/7/18 | Dow Jones
TORONTO, Aug. 7, 2018 /CNW/ – CellCube Energy Storage Systems Inc. (“CellCube” or the “Company”) (CSE: CUBE) (OTCQB: CECBF) (Frankfurt 01X) is pleased to announce the following update to its shareholders and the broader investment community.

The Company continues to successfully execute its strategy of providing innovative grid scale energy storage solutions and related products and services to companies, utilities and other customers around the globe. CellCube is one of the most advanced and proven large scale energy storage systems utilizing leading vanadium flow battery technology.

Several leading independent research firms are forecasting rapid growth in energy storage. According to Bloomberg New Energy Finance’s research, storage markets are estimated to reach 40 GW by 2030, and are estimated to spend over $100 billion in the ramp-up phase over the same time period. According to Navigant Research, the grid-connected energy storage market is expected to grow 44 per cent annually with the market size reaching $18-billion (U.S.) by 2024.

CellCube believes that the energy storage industry is on the verge of a tipping point to mass deployment. To-date, vanadium flow batteries (VFBs) have proven to be a leading method of grid scale energy storage. Management strongly believes CellCube is ideally positioned to capitalize on the growing demand for VFBs worldwide to help meet the world’s rapidly growing energy storage needs and to be part of the solution to address global warming and advance the transition away from fossil fuels toward greater reliance on renewable energy sources.

2018 Highlights:

— Acquisition of Gildermeister Energy Storage GmbH assets. Gildemeister has

been one of the world’s first and largest researchers, developers,

manufacturers and distributors of vanadium flow batteries(“VFBs”). As

industry leaders, they installed 130 VFBs on sites around the world.

Several of its VFBs have nearly 10 years of operating history, and have

proven to be extremely robust. CellCube’s VFBs are used for a variety of

purposes including grid storage; microgrids; off grid storage for solar

and wind power; diesel power replacement; back-up power systems; farming

applications; electrical vehicle charging stations; industrial plants and

office building applications; and emergency power sources.

— Appointment of Mr. Mike Neylan as CEO of CellCube. Mr. Neylan has over 20

years of extensive financial, legal and international corporate

experience. Most recently, he was a portfolio manager in the private

equity division of Sprott Inc. (“Sprott”), a leading alternative

investment manager with over $11 billion in assets under management,

where he was primarily responsible for establishing Sprott Asia. While at

Sprott, he helped raise over $500 million of institutional investment

capital from China and Korea and executed over $300 million of

investments predominantly in the resource and renewable power sectors.

Sprott, and certain investment entities managed by Sprott, have also

invested in CellCube.

— Appointment of Mr. Stefan Schauss as President of CellCube. Mr. Schauss

has over 20 years of sales and business development experience worldwide

with a focus in recent years on utility scale energy storage. He has

extensive experience in marketing and sales of VFBs, the leading battery

for large scale stationary energy storage. Stefan has worked extensively

in both Europe and North America. He has a MSc. Physics from University

Mainz, Germany with a concentration in physical chemistry and

electronics.

— Purchase of Jet Power & Control Systems Ltd. (renamed EnerCube Switchgear

Systems Inc.). EnerCube is one of Western Canada’s largest independently

owned switchgear manufacturers providing custom and turnkey solutions.

The Corporation provides complimentary products and services to CellCube

and will continue to provide innovative and high-quality products such

as: Arc Resistant and Metal Clad Switchgear, Motor Control Centers, VFD’s

and inverters to heavy power users, pipelines, refineries, manufacturers,

municipalities and infrastructure providers.

— Appointment of Mr. Brian Ricker as President & CEO of EnerCube Switchgear

Systems Inc. Mr. Ricker brings over 30 years of business experience in

the electrical industry, including 15 years in senior management roles.

He recently left Eaton Corporation (a multinational power management

company) where he was responsible for managing domestic and international

projects in the engineered equipment space.

— CellCube announced its intention to spin-out its 100% owned vanadium

project, the Bisoni MacKay and Bisoni Rio in Nevada, USA, into a newly

formed entity, V23 Resource Corp., which is to be publicly listed.

Vanadium prices have increased over 320% since January 2017 with V2O5

prices now approximately US $19 per pound. Vanadium, widely used as an

alloy to strengthen steel and in vanadium flow batteries for the energy

storage industry, is the best performing battery metal over this time

period surpassing cobalt, copper and nickel. CellCube will retain 19.9%

and certain off-take rights. Shareholders of record will receive one

share of V23 Resource Corp. for every two shares of CellCube held by

CellCube shareholders. The spin-out and the record date are expected to

occur in September 2018.

— First product shipment of CellCube VFB to Germany. The Company shipped

its first energy storage system to the German municipal utility

Gelsenwasser for their EnerPrax project.

— Shipment of 2 VFBs to New York. The Company announced that the first of

two CellCube energy storage systems was installed at O’Connell Electric

in Victor, New York. The battery will be part of a micro-grid solar plus

storage system to maximize the use of energy and lower costs by 30-40%.

— CellCube further announced the purchase of a 10% stake in Braggawatt

Energy Inc., a FinTech platform for financing North America’s C&I and

non-profit solar projects. The companies have agreed to co-develop

financial solutions for energy storage projects that will accelerate the

global rollout of CellCube VFBs.

While CellCube does not normally comment on market activity or market rumours, the Company believes it is appropriate to issue the following remarks in light of the unusual activity related to its common shares.

CellCube reiterates that neither the prospects for the energy storage industry nor the fundamentals of its business have changed since the acquisition of the Gildemeister assets. The Company is aware of no material events that would contribute to the unusual trading activity.

“We continue to execute our growth strategy, and our business is progressing as expected,” commented Mike Neylan, CEO. “We are very encouraged by the interest shown in CellCube by institutional investors and clean energy companies in both North America and Europe.”

The Company also states that several officers and directors have been buying shares in the open market over the past several weeks.

About CellCube:

CellCube’s acquisition of the assets of Gildemeister Energy Storage GmbH has transformed CellCube and its wholly-owned subsidiary, Enerox GmbH, into a leading integrated resource and energy storage company. Together with the company’s recent acquisition of Jet Power & Control Systems Ltd. (now renamed EnerCube Switchgear Systems Inc.) and Hillcroft Consulting Ltd. (renamed PowerHaz Energy Mobile Solutions Inc.) and its investment in Braggawatt Energy Inc., CellCube is gearing up to deliver fully vertically integrated energy storage solutions to utilities and independent power producers for both stand-alone energy storage projects as well as projects where energy storage enhances the value proposition from renewable energy generation.

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Griffin
Griffin
August 7, 2018 1:35 pm
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Been down this path ounce already with Cellcube. American Vanadium Corp licensed Cellcube from Glidemiester. 3-5 years ago. They had Cellcube battery UL approved and they were installed in the New York Metropolitan office. Glidemiester IIRC has 200 batteries installed worl wide. If you follow PV mag artyicles I post in the storage column; https://www.stockgumshoe.com/2016/07/microblog-storage-of-electricity-batteries-big-image/comment-page-13/#comment-4986393 , Li-ion battery is the choice for battery farms. Technically the vanadium flow battery is superior for grid storage, longer life can be charged/discharged at the same time. What ever the reason, I’ve not seen a good one yet, vanadium flow batteries are not being installed in quantity. I’m one of the new hires has a trick up their sleeve to turn things around but there is no indication of that yet. In fact their web page has deteriorated to next to nothing, I would not be eager to dump more into them.

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renbycage
renbycage
August 7, 2018 1:56 pm
Reply to  Griffin

Thanks Griffin for turning me on to that thread. I’ve been dying to get hooked up with more information, I’m admittedly thin with the background insight I usually require before throwing my money into something. The recharge capacity with vanadium flow batteries to me distinguishes it, and gives it a niche. I’m trying to flow with the energy revolution, and could use a bit of a recharge on my bottom line, as this year has been much more challenging.

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Griffin
Griffin
August 7, 2018 2:20 pm
Reply to  renbycage

The PV mag covers a wide breath of what is going on wit the grid and renewables. On occasion there is something worth IMO investing. I have positions in $REMX, $EVSI, $RGSE, $ESNC. Tkae a look at todays article “32% tandem cell solar still competitive at triple the price”

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jerome50
jerome50
August 8, 2018 1:07 am

Clean Teq (CLQ.TO)

This is the Latest from Katusa Research, looks like they have given up on this company..

We are removing Clean Teq from our watchlist.

Management were confident in their expected capital costs on the project. However, the current study delivered a significant increase to the expected capital cost, thus making the project much less desirable.

Investment Recommendation: Cancel all buy under orders for Clean Teq.

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sarahh
Member
sarahh
August 8, 2018 5:30 am
Reply to  jerome50

So many of my Canadian/Oz mining shares are hemorrhaging. I can only assume this sell off is FEAR re Trumps battle with China/Canada/EU/etc. The big dog is no longer just snarling at individual countries, its isolating itself and trying to face down a unified world pack. Yesterday the EU told its exporters to ignore US threats and carry on trading with Iraq as normal. Maybe this is Trumps game?……to bring manufacturing back to the US and make it more self sufficient? But who will they sell to if there’s tit for tat sanctions? Supplying the home market is great but it does nothing to pay down their existing humongous debts.
We all assumed (?) that China would fund CLQ mine build, but Im now thinking they will drag their feet until they’re sure they can sell the EV’s to someone.
Renby recently said he could see CLQ’s sp practically halving from here. Im beginning to think he’s right. But its a dangerous binary game coz if China does stump up on decent terms (when was China ever decent?) , the price could double overnight.
I own too many shares to take the loss blithely, but I own too many shares to see them halve again. Torn!

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SoGiAm
August 8, 2018 8:57 am
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$CLQ ow> Ah yes, position size again, but not too overweight. Just a scratch, thus far, compared to biotechs… #Gr8FulliAM!

I thought that if CLQ and magic beads were so Gr8, RF would have bought out or taken taken private, long ago,
Very good long term investment, no doubt.

Have an awesome day and beyond all!
#Besr2YouAlwayz

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edski
Irregular
August 8, 2018 9:54 am
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Personally, I dislike using one thing to cause a stir if the markets or whatever. Too many things going on all around us to change the “what we consider normal reaction to things” to limit cause to a singular event.

I just purchased a lithograph from 1892 from Puck magazine, (that will cause a moderation hold) showing the McKinley 1890 Tariff. Heh…look THAT event up!

This is way too complex to figure out, but I think that we are in for a big correction….finally.

At this point I will add that I lost most of my money waiting for a few “corrections” that never materialized due to government manipulation.
At this point, I think it is a Global problem, and one that will hit everyone.

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d.mounts
d.mounts
August 8, 2018 10:03 am
Reply to  edski

I agree. I have been and am paring positions and I have PUTs (and have had for months), and plan to add more. So far I have retained all my E metals stocks.

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jerome50
jerome50
August 8, 2018 9:01 pm
Reply to  sarahh

I did sell some of my clean teq today at about break even, had more on the block but they didnt go, the ones I still own are severely underwater and am tired of losing $$, could be awhile before this ship turns around UGH!!!!

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SoGiAm
August 8, 2018 9:34 pm
Reply to  jerome50

tolga_kumova IG > The amount of respect I have for this man is beyond comprehension. https://www.instagram.com/p/BmOYQhUHDjW/?utm_source=ig_twitter_share&igshid=1os2myw50hia5

https://twitter.com/KumovaTolga/status/1027230631976157185
#PASSION #Mentorship #Graphite $SYR.asx $NCZ.asx

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wade3
Irregular
August 8, 2018 3:28 pm
Reply to  jerome50

Thanks for sharing, Jerome. I inquired awhile back if anyone out there smarter than I (that really opens it up) had any idea why Clean Teq had been hemorrhaging so, but no one responded…Intriguing concept that few come to the rescue when something turns sour compared to something that’s considered “hot.” Reminds me of the lessons I didn’t learn in the Dr. KSS biotech “can’t-miss” Benitec-Celgene-Zafgen days (though hear latter has nicely recovered). Hopefully better days ahead…

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dunnydame
dunnydame
August 9, 2018 2:46 pm
Reply to  wade3

Wade3 – maybe we’re not smarter than you? For myself I had no idea why CleanTeq had been/is hemorrhaging and was also waiting for a word from the wise.
I will add that I have never liked CleanTeq’s association with China. I got burnt in the past with some Chinese stocks recommended by The Motley Fool that were doing well until it became obvious that the Chinese government was exerting its influence. I would be happy for management not to pursue that connection.
Penny

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edski
Irregular
August 8, 2018 9:36 am

$MGX lp
I was wondering if one of our financial guys has looked at MGX’s financials, and how they see them. I’m confused trying to figure out how well off the company is with all of “the money and share issues used” in their large purchases this past year.
Any comments regarding their financials for youz guyz?
Thanks. edski

https://www.mgxminerals.com/media/downloads/filings/FS-Q2-2018.pdf

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Griffin
Griffin
August 10, 2018 11:14 am

$MGXMF – MGX Minerals Drills Up to 105 Meters of 98.7% Silica at Koot Silicon Project

https://www.mgxminerals.com/investors/news/2018/391-mgx-minerals-drills-up-to-105-meters-of-98-7-silica-at-koot-silicon-project.html

“The relatively high percentage of total SiO2 content compares favorably with other silica deposits in nearby Golden, British Columbia. Impurity compounds of interest such as Al2O3 & Fe2O3, approach specifications required for silicon metal. Lower loss on ignition (LOI) values correlate directly with higher SiO2 values. ”

MGXMF long

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edski
Irregular
August 13, 2018 1:01 pm

#FOR SALE:
One (1) small investment account, (possibly two), once believed to be a ray of hope and future financial mother load to owner. Is beaten and battered, lost most of it’s luster and feeling of awesomeness.

Needs a good home because of my personal belief that only if I sell it now, will it rise to it’s great imagined strength and wealth.

Interested parties should contact the Mother Ignatius home for the Depressed and ask for Lucky.

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renbycage
renbycage
August 13, 2018 2:59 pm
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Blood flowing in the streets. Time to dive under the bed.

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rubberworm
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rubberworm
August 13, 2018 5:21 pm
Reply to  renbycage

Dejokering … Jokers selling. RF and Aussie Super buying…Smart money…Aussie Super is Aussie retirement fund…they must buy and sell CLQ. They can only have a certain % in their fund. So when CLQ goes high the have to sell some. This should be a safe bet as RF and an Aussie retirement are buying here.

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dunnydame
dunnydame
August 14, 2018 3:53 am
Reply to  rubberworm

#For sale
Thanks for info about buying/selling by superannuation funds in Oz; that’t good to know. Do you have a way of keeping an eye on such transactions?

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rubberworm
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rubberworm
August 14, 2018 7:18 am
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Website under investors …

http://clients3.weblink.com.au/pdf/CLQ/02008406.pdf

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dunnydame
dunnydame
August 13, 2018 4:06 pm
Reply to  edski

#For sale
Edski, for the sake of the rest of us with our tattered biotech & mining/commodities portfolios, could you please hasten finding a buyer for your beaten-down portfolio/s, thus allowing us other Gummies to gaze in awe at the ensuing meteoric rise in our fortunes? (We promise we’ll send a generous donation to Mother Ignatius and her Home for the Depressed, with a special indulgence to Edski the Lucky.)
(If it weren’t for $APTO, $AUPH & $ZFGN I’d be donning my sackcloth & ashes, picking up my alms bowl and joining you. OMG – what did I just say! They’re about to plummet!!!)
Sympathetically,
Penny

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edski
Irregular
August 13, 2018 4:27 pm
Reply to  dunnydame

Man o man….I fear that there is more to come.
But YOU dunnydame, will never be broke, because you will always have a Penny to your name.
Be strong everyone. Let’s show em what we got!

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jerome50
jerome50
August 14, 2018 2:13 am
Reply to  dunnydame

I cleared out my Auph – even and my Apto for a healthy profit, only holding Arth now and its now bleeding, getting ugly out there but hopefully will turn, commodities are getting hammered!!

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sarahh
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sarahh
August 14, 2018 2:34 am

HN: Its so dark down here…are you under this bed too or are you on holiday?

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gmw13145
August 19, 2018 1:02 pm
Reply to  sarahh

Good question, where is Mr. Clean Teq? Pump. pump, pump and then gone!

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d.mounts
d.mounts
August 19, 2018 1:21 pm
Reply to  gmw13145

I can only speak for myself. But, nothing has changed (that I know of) since I did my initial DD, other than the price (which is still a little above my first purchase) – and I have not sold a single $CTEQF share. My entire position is in the red; but, I am in it for the long haul. I have seldom fared welcome short term trading. But, like Renby, I also believe strongly in Ardea and have been adding to my $ARRRF positions since the market CAP ratio favors $ARRRF (IMHO). People like Rick Rule say that once purchased stocks can drop significantly on their way to becoming 100 baggers.

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rubberworm
August 19, 2018 1:41 pm
Reply to  d.mounts

I’m in long also. Found some spare coins under the car seat. Picked up a few more shares Friday.

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gmw13145
August 20, 2018 2:47 pm
Reply to  d.mounts

I wish you well with your investment. However you may want to pick up a copy of the book “The Big Score Robert Friedland and The Voisey’s Bay Hustle” by Jacquie McNish. After reading the book you may view Clean Teq in a different light. If not, as I say best of luck.

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edski
Irregular
August 19, 2018 10:38 pm
Reply to  gmw13145

Yes gmw13145. Just awful that CLQ is the only stock stock to sink this year.
Actually, I am sorry that I even answered your juvenile statement and will never again do so.

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gmw13145
August 20, 2018 2:41 pm
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Oh no, how can I ever exist without a” Guest” (edski), responding to my comments!

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dunnydame
dunnydame
August 21, 2018 1:16 pm
Reply to  gmw13145

PS Actually, edski IS an Irregular, currently with 675 TUs.
He just posted without logging in first, which we all do from time to time (unintentionally).

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edski
Irregular
August 21, 2018 2:40 pm
Reply to  dunnydame

Pfffft….ignore the child, don’t feed it.

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gmw13145
August 21, 2018 3:06 pm
Reply to  edski

Excellent advice, which I shall follow in regards to you! I hope that you demonstrate more emotional maturity in your investing endeavors that you do in your comments here.

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sarahh
Member
sarahh
August 20, 2018 11:24 am
Reply to  gmw13145

If you have something specific to criticize, spit it out. That comment was rude and just plain wrong. HN worked his nuts off to feed you perfectly reasonable/argued research. You should invest in a bar of soap and wash out the gaping space between your ears.
Meanwhile, theres no need for you to demonstrate youre constipated. We all already know it.

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gmw13145
August 20, 2018 2:58 pm
Reply to  sarahh

My such a spirited defense! Why was my comment rude, and wrong just how? You correctly state that he “FED” information. He has been notably absent from this threat after publishing comment, after comment touting the stock. If you have a position in Clean Teq. I sincerely hope that it does well, unfortunately I doubt that it will end as you hope.

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d.mounts
d.mounts
August 20, 2018 3:06 pm
Reply to  gmw13145

Please share why you believe that, providing as much ‘evidence’ as you can. Unsupported allegations are hardly helpful – to me. I invest to make money. If I have missed something, I’d appreciate knowing what so I can correct my investment.

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August 20, 2018 3:37 pm
Reply to  d.mounts

Evidence, alligations, with all due respect what are you talking about? You have indicated that you have done your due diligence (DD). If so then you need nothing from me. All mining investments are a crap shoot at best, and when you add Robert Friedland to the mix I become highly concerned. Research the Voisey Bay project, and see if you don’t become a bit concerned. Also just look at a price chart for CLQ.TO, it is not pretty. Look, my intent was not to stir up a lot of controversy, if you are comfortable with you investment, I wish you well. You have done you DD and I have done mine. You do not need outside opinions to tell you want is a reasonable risk to take with your investments

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rubberworm
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August 21, 2018 12:46 am
Reply to  gmw13145

The guy asked U a question …you say read this book and look at the chart. Wow some DD. With no due respect you call HM a fake. JMHO you are a true troll. HN put a hell of a lot of real DD into this board. Maybe he got shut down talking politics. I hope that may be the case. As I hope he is ok. Btw Sama one of his picks HN did some real good DD on and shared got this … https://seekingalpha.com/article/4200714-sama-resources-still-track?app=1&dr=1

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August 21, 2018 11:29 am
Reply to  rubberworm

Look, you believe what you like. I, by no means indicated that a book and the chart was the extent of my DD. I simply suggested these two pieces of information might be looked at. And I by no means called HN a fake. It amazes me how anyone on this thread who disents, is attacked. If you believe that this stock is worthy of investing, then you are free to do so. As for me I am done.

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gmw13145
August 21, 2018 11:36 am
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And, Worm, while you are carping, why not step up, pay your money and become an Irregular!

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mmck
mmck
August 21, 2018 11:50 am
Reply to  gmw13145

Gmw13145, forums like this thrives by sharing. you mentioned “ “The Big Score Robert Friedland and The Voisey’s Bay Hustle” by Jacquie McNish. After reading the book you may view Clean Teq in a different light.” If I may ask what in the book changed your CLQ sentiment to negative? Long CLQ.

-mmck

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gmw13145
August 21, 2018 11:59 am
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MMCK, I suggest that you read the book, it describes in detail, Robt. Friedland’s, questionable dealings in penny mining stocks. That’s why the sub-title of the book is “The Voisey Bay Hustle”.

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deanbob
deanbob
August 21, 2018 5:31 pm
Reply to  gmw13145

Can answer the question with a direct answer?

d.mounts
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August 21, 2018 10:00 pm
Reply to  gmw13145

gmw, I believe rubberworm’s “MEMBER” denotes a Platinum membership.

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rubberworm
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August 21, 2018 11:00 pm
Reply to  d.mounts

gmw is right I’m a free loading member. I know very little about gumshoe and how it works. I came to this board because I own CLQ. HN did outstanding DD IMHO. gmw wrote “Where is Mr. Clean Teq? pump, pump, pump then gone!” Why would I pay to read posts like that. HN is a very smart man imho. And John who does not say much I think is very smart also. Showing up here calling HN a pumper and saying watch out for RF sets off bells and whistles to me. What difference does it make what kind of member I am? I think someone is looking to buy in in the mid 30’s.

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Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe
August 21, 2018 1:20 pm
Reply to  rubberworm

Just FYI, Hendrixnuzzles has not been “shut down.” Haven’t heard from him recently, but he’s good about keeping political screeds on the politics threads and he’s always welcome.

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edski
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August 21, 2018 2:01 pm

Thanks for that info, Travis.

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August 21, 2018 10:35 pm

Thanks good to hear that.

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d.mounts
d.mounts
August 21, 2018 1:04 pm
Reply to  gmw13145

I read and reviewed the information that was available. Does that mean I know everything there is to know? Does that mean I may not have missed anything? Of course not. I miss things and I make mistakes . One of the ideas of this entire Gumshoe site (as I see it) is to help and share what each of us can. So, I would appreciate any specific information you might share.

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sarahh
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August 22, 2018 7:51 am
Reply to  gmw13145

Gmw et al: Lets try to put the tin lid on this one and move on.
Two of the great problems with internet threads are that all we have are words to convey our feelings….no body language, voice tone or visual expressions. Add to this, people use words to express transient thoughts that are short and open to others’ (mis) interpretation.
This ‘unfortunate’ episode started with the word Pumper. I think most people would consider this a derogatory term implying that the person is trying to influence peoples investment decisions in a particular direction for personal gain. Using it to describe a chap who has given so much to this thread really was asking for a bloody nose response.
GMW: I think there’s still time for you to retract the offending word and better phrase your intent (or not). Perhaps you could offer something like ‘cheerleader’ or ‘proponent’ or whatever other word/phrase you coose. For my part, I can see that HN’s enthusiasm has not borne fruit in the short term (why?), but I cannot yet see that CLQ wont come right in the medium/long term. The metal has been down there millennia and it WILL come up sooner or later. My only question is what it will cost (shareholders) to get it dug up and how that will impact the SP plus to what extent Cobalt will continue to command its present demand given new battery formulas. But I cannot see how HN could personally gain by attempting to influencing our investment decision.
One other important issue: The purpose of this thread (as I see it) is collaboration, not brick-bats. Of course we all are supposed to do our own DD…..reading here is a big part of that. Simply saying ‘Read this book’ doesnt help too much. I have read many bio CEO’s glowing defense of a stock/company thats just crashed after failing its phase 3 trial. We will all read the same ink on the page but may all come away with a different take. Whats written is NOT the whole story by any means…..what the intelligentsia interprets probably gets far closer to the truth. So whats helpful for everyone here is to get YOUR take. Maybe I did misinterpret would for could and by hearing your interpretation maybe my whole thinking could/would be reset. The bottom line is that youre either a part of this team effort or just an info leach giving nothing in return. We will see as time goes on.

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August 22, 2018 11:39 am
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I don’t like, nor do I think it is appropriate, seeing any blame attributed to HN resulting from his sharing his thoughts and enthusiasm surrounding clean teq and other stocks. I think it was obvious for anyone following him that he didn’t have any kind of hidden agenda, he was just an armchair commentator, an investor who heavily followed the company, thought he was onto something, and enjoyed sharing his thoughts and dreams. He was always honest about who he was, and he backed up his writing with decent analytics that anybody could evaluate for what it was. The unfortunate retracement of the stock price, which was more sector wide than anything, sucked for him, since it, at least for now, has made his enthusiasm look foolish, but that doesn’t mean that it was. That he has kind of disappeared and gone silent, during this period that most of the stocks he told us he was holding have collapsed in price, is a bit of a concern for the group of people who have come together around his writings. I would not conjecture what is actually going on with him that has led to his silence, but hope he is OK, on all levels, and I know many others here would share that sentiment. My hope is he is just in hibernation during this extreme downturn, licking his wounds, and that when things turn up, he will reappear as his old self, perhaps a bit wiser for the lessons of the experience.

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Just Me
August 22, 2018 12:09 pm
Reply to  renbycage

I really appreciated wat HN did for this group. Loved to read his insights and still have multimegatons of respect for him! Goin’ trough all of his writing here on the blog I learned a lot about investing in mining companies. Kudos for you HN. Miss your posts dude. Hope you are ok.

Lulu
August 21, 2018 1:29 pm
Reply to  sarahh

Et All……Third time I thought of posting then deleted, not this time. HN is around, this I know!! Remember he has long deep positions as well. Many Gummies other than HN have offered insight, favourable and/or unfavourable. Bottom line sell, buy more or hold.

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sarahh
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August 14, 2018 4:01 am

All: As the old truism goes; If you don’t learn something from every experience, you’re bound to make the same mistakes again. I think it would be useful to put our collective heads together and share any lessons we should have/could have learned. Face it, metals arent like bio….bio is binary ….a pure punt on an unknowable end result, whereas, irrespective of the market moves, all the metals are still down there and sooner or later they will come up ( unless EV’s go out of fashion). And what will its value be? Thats the price I hope to pay. So our real problem has been ‘entry/exit timing’. Imagine what your portfolio would look like if we were entering today instead of six months ago.
In my experience, markets ALWAYS go up and down. So why did I buy last month instead of today? Could this collapse have been predicted? Well I doubt the exact causes could have been predicted short of a crystal ball, but in another sense it WAS predictable under the heading ‘Markets ALWAYS go up and down’.
I think my primary problem has been over-exuberance….getting caught up in the hoopla of ‘promising’ rumour…..it’s the ‘Im gonna miss the boat’ syndrome, buying the ‘promise’ rather than the actual value.
I don’t believe that pro traders go to their institutions and say ‘Ive got a feeling about this one….can I invest a billion in my hunch boss?’ One of my problems is that Im greedy…..I want to capture every penny of the gain. Consequently I lose every penny of the pull backs then sit around praying I can just get my money back……usually compounding the loss, or worse, doubling down till Ive got a portfolio crippling holding . Ive found some (most) of Renby’s financial metric considerations very intriguing. I reckon that the pro’s aim to snaffle small %’s rather than go for the big long hit. Look at it this way: would I be happy with a 20% gain? You bet ya. But when Im showing a 20% gain, do I get out? Nope, I hang in coz this ones going to the stars….usually the southern stars!. Hmm?
But this creates a big problem for me, By nature Im a long. Why? Because Im too lazy to follow the market closely, especially when Im holding 20+ stocks. Market watching is a full time job and Ive got a day job too. Playing at it is a recipe for disaster. So my plan now is to hold far fewer stocks so I can follow them more closely in the time I have spare, and take my small gains when they come…..then sit out till the inevitable pull back comes. In the end I intend to be married to a gain (however small), not married to the whims of any particular stock. If its fundamentally cheap, Im in….if its promising, Ill wait for the promise to deliver and then set a close mental stop.

What have you learned?

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biotechsucks
biotechsucks
August 14, 2018 6:03 am
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What you have described is exactly my experience and I presume a lot of other people having a long term view. I think you have two choices if you are not in a liberty of following your portfolio developments on a regular basis: a)invest in ETFs and blue chips and stop looking at it daily – be prepared for paper loses of 40% during the next major crisis which is probably coming soon and offset it by having lots of cash to add to these stocks / ETFs at depressed prices. b) As you stated reduce the amount of holdings and watch these closely. Most of the biostocks and miners we are in are very volatile. But for traders volatility is a blessing. I recommend watching this which gave me a lot to think about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzFl0uDwAQY and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzFl0uDwAQY&t=8s. I am warning you: Anton Kreil is a controversial figure and I don’t necessarily agree with everything has says however his knowledge of the hedge funds and IBs is useful and he goes over the process professional portfolio managers follow and suggests to try and mimic what they do. The bottom line of this two videos is this: Try to replicate a hedge fund portfolio manager by having a long / short portfolio for 6 -12 months period and switch to being a trader in times of increased volatility. Retail investors have an additional bonus over hedge funds managers of not being invested in the market if the time isn’t right. Use fundamental analysis starting with macro factors and only use the TA to time the trade idea you have come up AFTER fundamentals. Some of it is a common sense and nothing ground breaking but still useful. He obviously pushes his agenda of selling his courses but the free stuff has value.

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tanglewood
August 14, 2018 5:34 pm
Reply to  biotechsucks

For members only, I would suggest getting investment ideas from Travis ‘real money’ portfolio on this site. He is having a fabulous year and he documents all his trades with logical explanations. One example is Trade Desk (TTD), he held during a recent stumble in Feb 2018 but I bailed at $48.80. Today it is $133.00. The return calculations (gain/loss percent) are not annualized but his total profit for all open positions is currently at %51. Granted, it would be difficult to replicate his current portfolio since there is considerable risk with some big names near all-time highs.
He has a small position in Clean TeQ (CTEQF).
To find it; under ‘Articles’ at top, click on ‘Premium Content’ and on the right side click again on ‘Travis Real Money Portfolio’.

https://www.stockgumshoe.com/personal-portfolio-irregulars-only/

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doomie
doomie
August 14, 2018 5:50 pm
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I concur. I picked a few ideas and hold a couple of holdings from Travis’s portfolio, some others on a watchlist. One of his better calls recently was the TWTR options but I was too greedy to cash them in at 200% gain and now they are in the red. Oh well – that’s just life 🙂

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russwkennel
August 16, 2018 10:52 am
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As an cexample: A service has $SAND in the portfolio as a hold. A few days ago they said sell and re – enter at a future lower point because the stop loss was tripped.

Due to personal feeling from this and many other services recommending SAND I didn’t sell. Thus, I put personal sentiment over objective professional trading advice, and am regretting it.

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cavemann
cavemann
September 6, 2018 3:30 pm
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Sarah, sorry I didn’t see your comment earlier.
One thing I’ve learned is that Mining stocks are much more dependent on the macro environment. A junior miner either exploring or in development of a property is going to be priced partly on their prospects but a large part on the price action of whatever element they plan to mine. I think Clean Teq is seeing this now since Cobalt pricing has fallen substantially from it’s highs in the past 6 months. Even profitable miners are priced based more on spot prices than on prospects and earnings it seems. Biotech on the other hand is almost totally based on the drug research. If it looks like a hit, even in times when the market is not good, the stock will climb like mad. Everyone wants in on the next big thing in Biotech, the cure for cancer, an effective Alzheimers drug etc. This is probably partly because we all imagine at some point we might need one of these miracle drugs and partly because they can generate such huge profits. The one constant I have in either investment (and in any other company I want to invest in) is this: Do I trust management to do what is in my best interest and not in theirs? If the answer is yes, then I don’t worry too much about the price swings, even when the stock drops a lot. I make sure the story hasn’t changed but I keep holding if I am fairly certain management is doing their jobs.

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edski
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August 16, 2018 8:52 am

$FLC.AU lp
Another additional international sale, and my only stock to go up yesterday.
https://www.fluencecorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/1831539.pdf

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Griffin
Griffin
August 16, 2018 11:25 am

$ECSIF – Construction Continues to Advance at eCobalt’s Idaho Cobalt Project

Progress development highlights include:

Water Treatment Plant (“WTP”) equipment has been mobilized to site.
Completed the WTP building foundation and slab. Building steel erection and placement of large components to commence August 18th.
Started lining the Tailings Waste Storage Facility (“TWSF”) and ponds for September completion.
Completed potable water system connection to site admin building.
Completed the power distribution system to the ponds and wells.
Completed pumpback system earthworks, installation of the system pipelines now in progress.
Opened a temporary camp for the construction workforce near the project gate.
Completed the fuel island containment pad for August installation of equipment for bulk diesel delivery and on site distribution.
To date 700 cubic yards of concrete have been poured at the mine and mill site, representing 25% of the total concrete requirements of the project.

https://www.ecobalt.com/news/news-releases/construction-continues-to-advance-at-ecobalts-idah-20180816

ECSIF long

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Griffin
Griffin
August 16, 2018 4:30 pm

$FYI – COBALT Increased cobalt demand, low-grade premium hint at imminent price turnaround

This was sent to me by “First Cobalt – Sector Newsletter” perhaps now we will see some movement in Cobalt miners. 🙂

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d.mounts
d.mounts
August 19, 2018 3:46 pm

From The Hill (today):

“At least ten health care workers have been infected with the deadly Ebola virus as they battle an outbreak in an eastern province of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, officials said over the weekend, as concerns mount that the number of cases is growing faster than public health officials can respond.”

While I wish for as quick a containment as possible, this kind of situation only magnifies the need for alternate EV metals’ mining and production (ASAP) locations.

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SoGiAm
August 19, 2018 7:10 pm

$COB.asx Cobalt Blue Update https://seekingalpha.com/article/4200002-update-cobalt-blue? Best

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wade3
Irregular
August 20, 2018 7:48 pm

What happened to Hendrixnuzzles, the originator of this thread? I used to love his insights. Though Clean Teq is on a precipitous downfall for the moment, I still love ya, man!

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jerome50
jerome50
August 21, 2018 12:58 am
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Wade3
I second that! We miss u man!!

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williamstown
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August 21, 2018 6:28 am
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HN we do miss you.

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tanglewood
August 21, 2018 12:45 pm
Reply to  wade3

I understand why HN is inactive. There has been no news on CleanTeq and Cobalt prices have declined. I think his efforts will come to fruition during 2019. We just have to wait.

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tanglewood
August 21, 2018 2:25 pm

Mr Gumshoe, Travis, who is long Clean Teq has a nice analysis of the recent decline in his Friday file;
‘The trade fears and the falling Yuan and the rising US Dollar are all really pressuring almost all commodities, including base metals, which could certainly impact cobalt and Clean TeQ, particularly as they’re in a sensitive period when they’re trying to finalize financing and off-take deals and when investors are reacting (or overreacting) to delays and are already a little nonplussed by the rising costs of the Sunrise Project. Clean TeQ (CLQ.AX, CTEQF) continues to get destroyed as cobalt prices weaken, though there isn’t really any company specific news in recent weeks.

Cobalt, should it remain a key battery component, ought to be somewhat protected from the falling prices in the base metals like copper and zinc and iron ore… but Sunrise is also a nickel mine. On the flip side, if cobalt demand continues to rise and nickel and copper prices fall, cobalt prices could skyrocket again as the supply drops (most cobalt comes from copper mines, so if those start closing down for low prices, or slowing down, production of cobalt also drops). I think that’s a more likely scenario, mostly because I think the electrification of the world’s vehicle fleets will continue — but it’s not guaranteed that I’m right, and it’s definitely not guaranteed that I’m right about the timing.

Certainly the speculative surge in cobalt from $20 to $40 over the last year and a half has turned sour since June, with the price dropping back down to $25 before bouncing a bit more recently (it’s just below $30 now), and that loss of altitude is a big part of the reason for shares of both eCobalt Solutions and Clean TeQ falling. My expectation is that the price will trend higher over the next five years or so as more battery manufacturing capacity is built around the world and more companies seek to secure long-term supplies, which is why I continue to hold Clean TeQ… but if the price continues to fall in the near term, or causes Clean TeQ to have to make long-term deals at less optimal prices, the shares could certainly keep falling.’

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deanbob
deanbob
August 21, 2018 9:47 pm
Reply to  rubberworm

Haven’t I read that Clean Teq has (one of) the largest scandium resources?

d.mounts
d.mounts
August 21, 2018 9:49 pm
Reply to  rubberworm

Haven’t I read that Clean Teq has one of , if not the largest deposits of scandium?

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rubberworm
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rubberworm
August 22, 2018 12:18 pm
Reply to  d.mounts

I thought so also. But maybe not. But there seems to be quite a few links to on of the highest sc grades in the world. Which I guess the is on of the reasons CLQ can process it a a very low price.
http://www.miningweekly.com/article/clean-teq-teams-up-with-chinalco-chinese-varsity-on-scandium-alloy-development-2018-01-31

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SoGiAm
August 21, 2018 10:00 pm
Reply to  rubberworm

$PGM.asx August 2018 Investor Presentation #Sc21 > https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20180821/pdf/43xht40c8pnzcb.pdf Best

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edski
Irregular
August 23, 2018 9:17 am

#IKN This happened in Venezuela yesterday, which gives an idea of just how precarious the life of informal/artisanal/illegal miners really is.

https://incakolanews.blogspot.com/2018/08/when-informal-mining-meets-73mag.html

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Griffin
Griffin
August 23, 2018 12:38 pm

$FYI – Cobalt Miners News For The Month Of August 2018
by Matt Bohlsen Includes: AEOMF, AMSLF, ARRRF, ARTTF, AZRMF, BHP, BKTPF, BRCSF, BRVVF, BXT

Summary
Cobalt spot prices stabilizing after recent falls.
Cobalt market news – Japan seeks stable cobalt supply.
Cobalt miner news – BHP seeking to add cobalt sulphate from Nickel West operation. China Molybdenum net profit set to surge between 271.21% and 295.16%.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4201551-cobalt-miners-news-month-august-2018?isDirectRoadblock=true

$ARRRF long

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secretsquirrel
secretsquirrel
August 23, 2018 6:39 pm

Separating battery metals hype from reality

BATTERY metals are in the news—for good reason. Demand for these metals is expected to skyrocket, driven primarily by powertrain electrification.

https://www.miningnews.net/research/opinion/1345123/separating-battery-metals-hype-from-reality

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