Friday File: We’re All Doomed! Maybe!

by Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe | April 12, 2019 7:01 am

Some bearish thoughts to calm the soul... plus updates on Real Money Portfolio stocks SAFE, ZAYO, Kweichow and Fairfax India

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29 responses to “Friday File: We’re All Doomed! Maybe!”

  1. cookingallday says:

    Curious what your list of buys would look like in a large market downturn….assuming you can convince yourself to dive in lol

  2. The ones I’ve never bought are trickier, because you have to be comfortable enough with the company to overcome the pessimism that will be reigning at some point about their future (or the economy’s future), but hopefully the ones I already own or have owned will be easier — Berkshire, Markel, several REITs, Hershey come to mind.

    I’ll try to think about a list I could share, but if other folks have suggestions please toss them on the pile.

  3. Extraordinary morning for Disney (DIS) today! It’s a little shocking to see a behemoth like Disney jump 10% at the open, following news that pretty much everybody already knew was coming.

    The details of Disney+ were a little clearer and more appealing than investors had been hoping, I guess, including some really compelling content from both Fox and Disney and the clarification of which of the blockbuster films will immediately be on Disney+ (and often exclusive on Disney+), along with some likely hits in the form of exclusive series’ from the Marvel and Star Wars universes.

    What was probably most exciting for analysts, though, was that Disney put a target on their subscriber growth… a pretty bold move to make six months before the product is even available for purchase. The projection was for 60-90 million subscribers by 2024 (1/3 US, 2/3 international), and that’s also roughly when they expect Disney+ to start covering its costs (which will be massive, both in technology and content) and making a profit…. which was more than analysts were penciling in, apparently. Netflix, by way of comparison, has about 140 million subscribers. Given Disney’s unique content and overwhelming dominance at the box office, and the fact that we’re clearly moving toward a “rent, down own” world in all forms of media, I wouldn’t be shocked if the subscriber growth for Disney is even faster than that.

    60 million subscribers at $6.99/month is just over $5 billion a year. That’s not a big deal for Disney, and they can absorb the tens of billions of dollars of investment required to get to that point in five years (current profit at DIS is about $11 billion/year, and they could easily add to their debt balance without it being onerous). If that kind of growth got a similar valuation to what Netflix (NFLX) had at a similar size a few years ago (it most likely won’t, but one can dream), then the streaming service alone could be worth $25-35 billion (at 5X sales). Netflix crossed 60 million subscribers in 2014, also with roughly a 1/3 US, 2/3 international base at that time, and they got there by roughly doubling the subscriber count every two years (a pace they’re still pretty close to, amazingly enough).

    And, coincidentally enough, that’s about how much Disney jumped today — the market cap rose by about $20 billion at the open. So yes, Disney+ is now pretty well priced in as a financial event, and it wouldn’t be at all surprising to see it give up half of those gains pretty quickly once the excitement wears off… but Disney was very attractively valued before that as well so I’m not worried and not selling. It’s not cheap anymore, but nobody beats Disney when it comes to cross-marketing and merchandising and developing compelling characters and content. Looking forward to subscribing to Disney+.

  4. abhinavsukumar says:

    Thanks Travis for your insights. Have you heard of Pagerduty (PD)? They only just IPO’d and it has shot up (rather predictably). They are (apparently an) IT Operations intelligence company. Just wondering if you have any thoughts/intelligence on its prospects viz-a-viz the biggies (AMZN, GOOG, etc)

  5. Blackie says:

    Travis:
    I was a little confused about your statement: “Safehold (SAFE) — This is a relatively new REIT that I opened a position in next year.”
    I have never been able to open a position in the future. How do you do that?
    Blackie

  6. chojnowski says:

    Thank you once again Travis for these precious insights and well-written articles. The Friday File’s mail notification is the only one I am expecting every week 😉

    I had a question for you (or maybe more an advice request):
    I am living in France and I am using Degiro as my broker for building my portfolio. Unfortunately this broker doesn’t offer access to any stocks nor all options / warrants that you sometimes acquire. Do you, by any chance, have a recommandation of which broker could I use ? Especially for being able to buy those hedge options (Put (Hedging) SPY ETF Jan 21) or even Kweichow Mountain (600519.SS) ?

    You must use an American broker of course, but if you ever heard (or have used) some other broker (and accessible from an European country) I would love to have your recommandation 🙂

    Otherwise, thanks again for this very good article and have an excellent week-end.

    Cheers to every Irregulars here !

    Best,
    Pierre-Louis

  7. tomjan says:

    you can by Softbank and get exposure to Uber. They own s almost 17% of SFTBY at 35 per share.

  8. steveflick says:

    John Hussman’s bearish thinking sounds similar to Harry Dent at newsletter Boom & Bust, to which I subscribe – inexpensive yearly introductory leading to other higher cost services. Like Hussman, Dent has been off in recent years with the doom predictions, but the bubble has got to burst sometime…..Dent is now predicting downturn similar to Hussman.
    Travis, what is your plan on selling big companies, such as Berkshire (which I also own); at what point?, -25%, -30%, -50%. I also own some Amazon, Google, and Microsoft. I am struggling with if/when to sell at downturn, or just hold on for 2-3 years until they recover.
    Great reminder article Travis.

  9. dayanand says:

    Thanks a lot for the insightful articles. I guess you buy S&P puts to hedge against a 20-30% stock market dip. Like you wisely pointed out, some of the over-valued stocks are likely to go down by >50% in the event of a market crash. Loss making companies like lyft and a few other biotech stocks are sitting ducks that can crash further down. Wondering if you ever got interested in identifying a bunch of sitting ducks to short (buy puts) when the market starts deteriorating?

  10. Ron4USC says:

    FYI On Boeing: I saw Kevin O’Leary (chief shark on “Shark Tank”) on CNBC a couple of times recently. BA had been his largest holding but he sold it in anticipation of the bashings to come from politicians. He plans to buy it back when that simmers down. Earlier this week he said BA would be a screaming buy at $350 which I interpreted to mean he would start buying somewhat above that.

  11. dkandt says:

    Hi Travis, just wondering if you have looked at Palo Alto Networks (PANW) or Salesforce (CRM) recently? If so, would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!

  12. msanghadia says:

    You are so thoughtful and wise in your Friday musings, Travis! You truly are a beacon of light!

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