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By wlcummings, July 17, 2019

This is a ”startup investing group” listing and discussing pre IPO startup investing. It is a group headed by Neil Patel and touted by Robert Herjavec. Are they a legitimate service.

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Dewey Hansen
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Dewey Hansen

I need the step-by-step instructions on how to invest in the $50 startups as stated in your presentation at the summit.

Randall
Guest

It may not be a scam, but it sure feels like one. I will not receive any of the information in 4-6 weeks. I upgraded from a 2 year subscription to a lifetime and they charged me for both without refunding the 2 year. I called several times during business hours and no one every picks up; instead, a recorded message plays stating to call back during business hours. I emailed the support email and the customer service email without a response. I texted them and there is an automatic message stating to call back during business hours. I finally… Read More »

Rob
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Rob

I joined A & E and paid $129 for a 2 year membership. Since then, I have been inundated with their wanting me to upgrade. So far I have not been impressed with the offered startups or the interviews with the startups. Also they announced a great “new” deal with Alpha-9 by Tom Gentile in early Sept 2019. I did an internet search and found the same deal as Dec 2018. I emailed A & E and asked why they presented this as a great “new” deal when it was not. They did not respond. I did not cancel my… Read More »

Jim C.
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Jim C.

Rob, same here. I joined at the introductory level, then was foolish enough to pay another $495 for the next level and didn’t get any additional good leads that make sense. It is ironical how Neil talks about focusing on companies that solve a real problem and yet their recommended companies are not major problem solvers…more like niche needs. If you want in on a red-hot deal….such as this company that supposedly solves the hacking problem….they’ll share that with you if you join the next level membership for $2,495. They keep sending emails about this next level sometimes two times… Read More »

betsy
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betsy

Is the book, “How to Hack your Taxes with A&E” at all useful? Does it take 4 weeks to receive it? It’s in the $129 membership.

michelem
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michelem

That report is on the website. To my knowledge it didn’t come as a separate hard copy. Useful info that I was not aware of, but I’d like to think a good cpa would know these things?

Michael
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Michael

Agree with most of the threads so far. Seems all you get is a constant flood of emails enticing you to upgrade. Each time you literally have to spend hours listening to the videos, only to find out that if you want to know the startup you have to get out your CC again! . The deals he is promoting take you to sites like Republic, Start Engine, and Microventures, and they charge nothing and they list numerous other deals to review. I am planning on cancelling within the 60 Day window. I think its very misleading to pay for… Read More »

Devin G
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Devin G

Hi everyone, I joined about a month ago and am starting to be disappointed in the service. Supposedly they will give us good leads and I have made some small investments under $500 in a few companies. I have a little time to decide if I want to stay in it, but I joined the lifetime membership for under $600 I believe. Someone below said they are being paid to promote these companies to us, that sucks. Now that I know where these investments can be made on Start Engine, etc., I feel like I am not getting much from… Read More »

Sue
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Sue

I am an Angels & Entrepreneurs basic member for $79 and I would NOT recommend you pay any more than that. For the $79 I am ok for just the basics Neil Patel teaches. As you will find out, you don’t need the group to then go off on your own and invest in start-ups. Outside of that, all the bombarding emails and upsells are just that… This group of men are from, Mike Wards – Money Map Press. These guys are all pros at getting people hyped up to open their wallets. Don’t fall prey to being victimized financially… Read More »

Jim C.
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Jim C.

Agreed.

carla dean
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carla dean

okay not sure if I get to respond. My first suggestion would be let all members own part of the membership biz. I would be waaay more trusting that it wasn’t a scam if we got some ownership in Angels and Entrepreneurs. Better deal. Ill wait for that.

Tim
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Tim

Tom Gentile Alpha 9 I joined Angel investment in the life time member ship. I first joined the basic 79 but then the up selling stated. So I got the life time. I have been bombarded with up sales. One upsell I got from angels was for Tom Gentile the Alpha 9. Decided to check out what reviews said about is so called world renound investment advice. I would say at least 95% of the reviews were negative on his services. Tom Gentile got wealthy selling information that he himself never applied to his own money. Angel investment is the… Read More »

Chris
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Chris

Scam? Technically no. Intentionally slick misdirection? Likely. 1. Appeal to recognized authority who is only involved at the “ribbon cutting ceremony” to drive masses to buy into recurring revenue platform(enter Robert Herjavec)… Check. 2. Authority figure has no vested interest, future advice or any interaction with business or members… Check. 3. Multiple upsell levels to gain access to an elite “inner circle”… Check. 4. Just enough low level content/direction in lower tiers making it easier to hook you into upsells… Check. 5. From the A&E FAQ’s page…”Because we are financial journalists – not advisors or brokers – newsletters and investment… Read More »

mangell
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mangell

PERFECT!
Definition of a salesman: “With a hand full a gimme, and a mouth full a much obliged”

Miles
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Miles

The chances of hitting a mega return winner they’re trying to sell are probably only slightly higher than winning the lottery. Simple sales concept really…if you don’t play you’ll never win. They pray on peoples desire to be rich. The only ones making millions are the ones selling the book or service. Disappointed that Herjavec put his name to this. Thought he was a straight shooter. Looked like more of a pitchman you see on infomercials hustling get rich books or systems.

Rinya
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Rinya

I like the way you’ve broken it down, Chris. Nice analysis.

Louis D'Agostino
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Louis D'Agostino

Hi..I joined A&E a few months back and upgraded all the way. Shortly after I asked for my money back because it just isn’t for me. Neil has a great marketing program and I would rather invest in his company because he will make a great deal of money telling everyone how rich they will be. I don’t believe that and the fact of the matter you will need to invest in many many start up companies in the hopes that one of them actually makes money and is either sold or has an IPO. The biggest disappointment is all… Read More »

mgwatl
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mgwatl

I just called to cancel since I was still within my 60 day refund window. I never found much clear info on what the system is to hold and sell. I am NOT going to let someone hold me ransom to pay higher and higher membership fees to get out of holdings in years to come. As those who joined saw, once you join your immediately offered a more expensive pitch to pay more to get the “good stuff”. Then later a pitch to buy more years before the price is greatly raised. This new service leaves much to be… Read More »

John
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John

Long sales letters and hyped ups sales videos always trigger my defenses. In this case, I gave it a shot after looking at Neil Patel’s track record in SEO and startups. Having a Robert Herjavec as a sponsor doesn’t hurt. I don’t believe he would endorse a product unless he thought it was good. I bought into the “Elite Founder” level which is the base level. I get access to Neil’s recommendations for non-accredited investors. To get the most out of Neil’s top-level one should be an accredited investor. I’ve been in the program for three months and I’ve invested… Read More »

Hannibal Smith
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Hannibal Smith

Can you give an example of the 10+ startups that were recommended in the past? I want to judge the quality.

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Kelle
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Kelle

Initially, it sounded like a good opportunity, but now I’m out because as far as I can tell there is no proof that anyone is making money other than Patel. I didn’t purchase the top entry position so I can’t speak for all levels, but as one that was curious enough to pay $150 to take a look at the entry-level deals, I’m now dubious. I never opted to invest in any deals because I wanted to wait and hear a few success stories from the company first but they could not provide any other than Patel (who is an… Read More »

Rinya
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Rinya

I wondered if Angels and Entrepreneurs Network (AEN) was yet another venture from a publisher that will remain nameless here. For years I’ve seen their excruciatingly long email pitches about this and that investment letter that will make you rich and change your life for sure. Maybe they will; maybe they won’t. What I know for sure is that the investing space is full of publishing companies, some good; some bad. Some outright bottom-feeders. The worst rely on naive belief, hope and ignorance to pitch their newsletters and services. AEN has the typical style: 1. So-so offerings at the lower… Read More »

legit infoseeker
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legit infoseeker

Rinya, I was just scrolling through the comments here on Stock Gumshoe and was very impressed with your commentary, knowledge, and the manner in which you present your information on this forum. It is uncommon to find useful, intelligent commentary as neutral and well spoken as yours. THANK YOU! Because of that, I would like to request to connect with you directly to discuss investing in general (start ups, marijuana stocks, cryptocurrencies, or other alternative investments) in a more private manner. Also I’d like to ask if you would be interested in possibly joining together to form a selective investing… Read More »

Rinya
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Rinya

legit infoseeker, thanks so much for all of your kind words. I will do my best to deserve all that, going forward. I am pretty much an autodidact as far as my market knowledge is concerned, and generally prefer to go it alone in my decision-making. That said, “alone” is far from alone, since I rely heavily on sources such as KingsCrowd and other such sources. Thank you for the offer of corroboration just the same, and best of luck to you.

petros
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petros

I also thank you Rinya for your excellent post. Kicking off the A & E video from an Instagram post I became intrigued. Then I found Stockgum… with all of these comments. After reading at least 75 comments, I reached yours, which has been by far the most helpful. Thank you for helping me and I’m sure many others. I will take your advice to heart.

Rinya
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Rinya

Kind words, petros. Thank you. I’m glad that you found the post useful.

wlcummings
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I joined about one year ago for the $49? option and soon found out they do not share their “real” investments for that amount but only some small companies that have very little potential. If you want the “real” companies you must upgrade to a higher subscription and if you want the companies they actually invest in you can upgrade again to a higher level subscription. I asked and received my money back. I do not know who Patel is and would NEVER had subscribed in the first place except for the Herjavec endorsement. My respect for Herjavec has gone… Read More »

cdb
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cdb

Agree.. Patty Patel is a scammer for his own gain. I too joined only to discover his promoters are paid.

kazito
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kazito

Hi everyone. Hope everyone is safe & healthy. I was wondering if anyone happens to know the name of the start-up Orthopedic & Knee Implants Company Neil Patel and Don Yocham are talking about in their recent (April 2020) Webinar??? (I watched the webinar today, April 10, 2020). Don Yocham also mentioned that he has three (3) more start-up companies in the same package he’s trying to sell. The deadline to invest in the pre-IPO Orthopedic & Knee Implants start-up Company is April 24 . So please please please hurry and contact me, ASAP. My personal email is: dropinmail@yahoo.com .… Read More »

Hannibal Smith
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Hannibal Smith

Monogram Orthopaedics

Kazito
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Kazito

Thank you so much, Hannibal Smith. I truly thank you and appreciate your kindness.
Do they have a website? Thanks, again.

Hannibal Smith
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Hannibal Smith

First one in Google results.

Patrick
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Patrick

Speaking of Seed investing. Anybody have an opinion about Nowrx?

kazito
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kazito

I am thinking about investing in NowRx, too, but would like fellow investors’ opinion about that, first. Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks, in advance.

Rinya
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Rinya

Kazito, go to KingsCrowd.com and check out Nowrx. You’ll get better advice at KingsCrowd than you will ever get from a “fellow investor.”

Rinya
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Rinya

Patrick, Go to KingsCrowd.com. You’ll get better advice at KingsCrowd than you will ever get from a fellow investor or any paid service. Also, read my post from January 30, 2020. Best of luck and God Bless.

kazito
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kazito

Hello fellow investors. I am a subscriber of Teeka’s “Palm Beach Venture”. I would like to share FOUR great Pre-IPO’s featured in his “Palm Beach Venture” for anyone interested in investing. These are companies with HUGE upside potentials, as per Teeka’s extensive research and analysis. Some of these Pre-IPO companies give warrant shares, too. (Just helping out my fellow investors. “Palm Beach Venture” is a $2,500 subscription, so take advantage of the FOUR Pre-IPO’s I’m giving you, here, if you’re interested). 1. Emerald Haelth Pharmaceutical : Last day to invest is June 6, 2020 ! https://investehp.com/ Phone # : 1-888-468-3471… Read More »

robert r snow
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robert r snow

i just did a little research but i didnt see anything with these pre ipo companies that meet the company teeka calls the next monster. can you tell me which one? supposed to be like an energy drink, thanks

kazito
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kazito

Teeka’s Next Monster company is called “Elegance Brands”.
Website: investinelegance.com
Phone: (310) 299-9584
I apologize to give you the bad news that the deadline to invest in this Pre-IPO company is already well past.
You can still call them up on the phone and see what they say if you want to.
Good luck.

robert r snow
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robert r snow

thank you so much

kazito
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kazito

You’re most welcome.