angels + entrepreneurs network

By wlcummings, July 17, 2019

This is a ”startup investing group” listing and discussing pre IPO startup investing. It is a group headed by Neil Patel and touted by Robert Herjavec. Are they a legitimate service.

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John
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John

A&E around and around the mullberry bush the monkey chased the weasle

marxdongjing
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marxdongjing

Each properly managed start up will be carefully protecting confidentiality and the interest of the seed investors and angels , and each basis point of participation is zealously defended by each of them to get the maximum out of the IPO: so where does this service get its information from and what participations could be for sale?

Jim Ryan
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Jim Ryan

Is A&EN legitimate? and how do I buy shares in one of their recommended start-ups?

Martin Laws
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Martin Laws

I joined this venture last week but will soon be asking for my money back once I received their “investors kit”. When I learned that you don’t buy shares but rather you give a company your banking info so they can ACA from from your account to theirs, I saw nothing but red flags. There are TOO many shell companies offshore to trust giving anyone my routing number and acct number. Be very careful on this one.

Lori Benoit
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Lori Benoit

I’ve been a member for almost a month now. You make the investments through one or more online, independent crowd funding websites such as Republic, or Wefunder. Both will accept a credit card instead of banking account info. I’ve made a number of small investments in the $100 to $200 range using a CC. The paying service with Neil seems to give you his expertise on assessing these startups, and access to directly ask questions of the companies’ founders, as well as educational videos on angel investing. It was only $79 for the membership, and I’m pleased with the service… Read more »

kevin Kennedy
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kevin Kennedy

ARE THEY A SCAM

rob
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rob

They are not a scam you just don’t understand the service they provide. They are providing you access to startups that have high chance of succeeding.

Brock W
Guest

I would love to know if this is legitimate, especially since Robert Herjavec is advertising it. I really want to trust what he says because he seems to me like a real business man and wouldn’t taint his name with a scam. But has anybody made any money from this service? Has anyone lost money from this service? It’s such a cheap membership fee, it must be too good to be true. SOMEONE ANSWER PLEASE.

Darrell Phillips
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Darrell Phillips

I joined this group an still active. I am somewhat disappointed this far as I thought there would be someone at least giving you a really good idea if the startup company would be something they would actually invest in themselves. What you actually get is some home videos telling you a little bit about the company you are looking to invest in with Neal’s take on the company. However they do not lead you one way or the other. If you think about it these companies are paying A&E to introduce there businesses to there group of investors. I’m… Read more »

Larry
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Larry

I’ve been a member for about a month and have made one small investment of $1K. I have to admit, though, that I am somewhat disappointed because the day after joining I began receiving emails inviting me to upgrade to their personal deal flow. This says to me the real way they make their money is through subscriptions and upgrades, which is a red flag to me. I’m not sorry I joined, but I won’t be upgrading.

Raquel Saldivar
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Raquel Saldivar

Hi Larry, I’ve been a member for about a month and I also made some small investment around $100 -$200. But now I receive several emails asking me to upgrade to their Founders membership, and now all of the Deal Flows in my page are for Founders only. The investment that I have made I’ve made through the Republic page directly. The Angles + Entrepreneur website doesn’t give me access to any Deal Flow and I paid $129 for my membership. I guess this membership only give’s me access to the Republic site and the videos so it’s up to… Read more »

Carol Burns
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Carol Burns

How much is the upgrade to their person deal flow?

monsterman1
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monsterman1

Hi Carol, I joined A&E early October as a lifetime member ($497) which gives you full access but it comes with a price I found. They give you the four recommended companies to invest in and some extra advice but that’s it. Everything else it’s Pay to Play and it’s not cheap. The Deal Flow cost is $2450 and there’s no guarantees and Neil suggests he MAY BE investing in it which isn’t confidence inspiring. I’m seriously considering leaving the group and getting my money back. I will be back on here after I do some more research . Will

Mel
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Mel

I joined Angels and Entrepreneurs around August and I got their kit, invested $200 to 2 companies, so far I haven’t heard about when will you get your investment, is it earning interest? I don’t want to invest a big amount because for me any company you invested in should be transparent on what’s going on with your money whether it’s earning interest or not. They just said that their company is growing but doesn’t really mention anything about your money or it’s investors. It says there also in their website that you invest only on the money you can… Read more »

rob
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rob

I got the message to upgrade to the personal deal flow. I honestly am glad I upgraded my subscription. I was able to access better deals and have found one specific deal that will make a lot of money in future. The way I see it is, If a deal can make me half a million dollar 10 year from now on with 5k investment and roughy $2500 access to that deal, I’d do it any day. Also some of the deals require you accredited investor – annual income of 200k or net worth of $1 million.

Sue
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Sue

Robert Herjavec was just a paid face to promote it. The money to be made will be a very long time to come 5-10 years. if at all. You are investing in start-up companies and many of them fail. Don’t invest want you can’t lose and don’t get caught up in all the upsell emails. A basic membership is all that is needed to learn basics. Outside of that, it’s a group of men & multiple organizations that start bombarding you with emails to sell you more stuff.

Ian Clement
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Ian Clement

I am also trying to figure out if this group is truly a real opportunity for anyone other than Neil Patel who will make money off all the subscriber fee’s. Terms and conditions state that the “writers” are unable to invest in their opportunities, so if Neil Patel wont invest in what he is suggesting then why should we?
Waiting for more reviews before I jump ahead

Darrell Phillips
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Darrell Phillips

I emailed asking about Robert Herjavec’s role in this business and got no response. If he has anything to do with it he is only going to stain his reputation. I believe Neil Patel is really the only one who is definitely going to make money. There’s not enough advise given to actually make any decisions on companies. It is really only good to help introduce you to angel investing. I got more out of watching shark tank episodes. Robert Herjavec, either get involved if you are a part of this business or let the people know your not.

Kim
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Kim

At the bottom of the Terms and Conditions, it states that Robert is a paid spokesperson for the company.

somebody
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somebody

I bought a membership with them. They’re not the only company that provides this service though; there are other crowdfunding pre-IPO networking sites, shop wisely. Anyway, they charged a membership fee, then charged another fee per deal (3.5% of the amount I invested). When I subscribed to the investment, it stated that it secured my money on a waiting list because it was oversubscribed. I understand Neil is a digital marketing guru so yes I’m sure he is making easy money from all the fees set up on an automated system with each investment/deal, and of course he will make… Read more »

rob
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rob

You’re saying Angels and entrepreneur network charged addition 3.5% on top of their fees? I find that hard to believe because I have invested in 10+ deals from them and have not been charged anything. The crowdfunding site may be charging you, that’s their policy, that amount is not going to the A&E network.

Andy
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Andy

After joining at the 79 dollar level, I was disappointed. Neil Patel provides his review on each opportunity but that’s about the only perk. Then I found out that there are tiers of memberships with startups not available to my membership level. ‘Republic’ has more varieties of startups and is free.

jewell
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jewell

HI what is “republic?” Thanks in advance for your reply.

rob
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rob

A&E network is not the same as crowdfunding sites. There are tons of sites similar to republic.co. Yes, there are tiers of memberships, going up to a maximum of $5000.00, which gives you access to deals that some are only for accredited investors – a person with an annual income of 200k or a net worth of $1 million.

Linda Johnson
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Linda Johnson

Most good investment companies won’t let their staff invest at least for a wile after the stock is recommended. I belong to this but find it’s frustrating to wade thru their communications.

tlearns
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tlearns

I joined on day-0, with a low cost life-time membership. SO far they are providing lots of good information, and several early round (seed) pre-IPO deals that you can join if you wish. They provide steps to invest via We Fund in some cases. Seems they are doing what they said they would do so far, bu will keep you posted.

Mike
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Mike

Are you still happy you joined? Was thinking of upgrading to Elite, but would like to know if it seems worth it.

Jessica Nugent
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Jessica Nugent

I’ve been researching this for awhile and I’m very interested to see if my membership fee was worth it. I’ll keep you updated.

stellaj84
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Jessica did you need to pay additional after the joining fee to get more info.

carol
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carol

I was contemplating membership but just finished reading a review that said when the gentleman joined the “best deal” diamond level he was taken to another page which clarified you do not have access to “investing” unless you upgrade to “VIP” with an additional $1000. It was also noted that Patel was the only name appearing on the site after the initial joining, I’m staying on the fence for now.

tinskov
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tinskov

Thank you for sharing the information about the additional $1000 fee, it prevented me from buying a costly membership. I will not become a member of AEN.

Lisa
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Lisa

That isn’t true- the next page OFFERS you a lifetime membership- you just click no and move on. The 79 still gives you 2 deals a month

rob
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rob

The addition $1000 fee gives you access to more deals. There are multiple levels of subscriptions up to $5,000 for lifetime membership in the A&E. The highest subscription gets you access to deals for accredited investors – for people who make 200k a year or have net wroth of $1 million.

Linda Saylors
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Linda Saylors

The upgrade to the “Elite” 2 year membership is 499.00 today instead of $599 and they credit your initial $79.00 fee. Elite level has a number of extra benefits, but not sure if I will upgrade of not. Looking for small time investing is challenging when you feel the only ones making any money are the big boys. We’ll see.

Rob
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Rob

There are multiple levels of subscriptions up to $5,000 for lifetime membership in the A&E. The highest subscription gets you access to deals for accredited investors – for people who makes 200k a year or have net wroth of $1 million.

Malka Finkel
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Malka Finkel

I signed up and paid 4-5 days later I called Jason Woodstock and was passed on to a customer service representative. I must report and I am grateful to report that he told me honestly that whatever it is a person invests in, no monies will be seen for 2-3 years. I made a quick decision and asked him to arrange to send me my 60-day money back guarantee and he said he will do that and it will appear on my card 5-7 business days and I will get an email about this. I suggest one thinks hard about… Read more »

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Andrew Dopeke
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Andrew Dopeke

Can foreigners invest?

Maria
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Maria

Hi,
I wrote in to their support desk asking this question. They say that as far as they know anyone can invest.

John
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John

Not really a good answer !

mangell
Member
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Here is what I posted before in another discussion group: It’s a new endeavor under Money Map Press called Angels and Entrepreneurs. Actually Robert Herjavec only shows up in the introductory video. It is mainly run by Neil Patel. Neil gives his take on hand picked start up ventures with info(a “cheat sheet”) and a sales pitch from the person(s) and a one on one interview with Neil Patel. You can then choose to invest through a fund like WeFunder, Republic, MicroVentures or some others. The cost to join can be $149 for a “Founder” level, but then. of course,… Read more »

jim1936
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jim1936

I contacted A&E’s customer service to find out how many membership levels they have and the associated fees. They described four levels – Gold ($39 a year with annual auto renewal), Diamond ($79 for 2 years but no auto renewal), Platinum ($129 for 3 years, not sure about auto renewal) and Lifetime ($495). Apparently all of these are basic levels which don’t provide access to the best investment opportunities. To get access to the best opportunities they have two advanced membership levels called Elite and VIP, one of which costs an additional $1,000 to join (not sure if this is… Read more »

Jim De Leon
Guest
Jim De Leon

Thanks for all the insight. Like others I will stand by the sideline till I’m clear of all aspects of this opportunity.

Jim De Leon
Guest
Jim De Leon

Not sold yet. I’ll sit on the side lines till I’m comfortable.

Jack
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Jack

If I were a millionaire, I would just GIVE others this information and let them see for themselves that it works and then ask for a donation so that I can continue to GIVE this information to others! I think there is a startup opportunity in that idea! I just do not know how to go about getting the initial investment to start it up!

Mary Lynn
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Mary Lynn

I always think the same. These guys have a jillion dollars. Why no open the door for others . I agree and if we find its legate we should pay the fee after, rather than having to go though the whole refund procedure!

EJrockit
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EJrockit

Because they have other people who are investing in this program and it to satisfy them not Patel or Haj…

Ace Janitor Service Inc.
Guest
Ace Janitor Service Inc.

In all fairness to A&E they are a research service and Mr. Patel does an excellent job in evaluating the companies that they have highlighted as potential investment opportunities. Having said that I will further say that their website has some significant flaws. Firstly any comments or questions submitted to the site or i.e. Mr. Patel do not seem to get answered in a timely fashion and secondly it is not clear until you may decide to invest in any of the companies they have researched that you have to go to outside websites of Crowd Funding companies in order… Read more »

P Kennedy
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P Kennedy

The business may be legit but that does not mean you can make money. Red flag for me is Neil does not invest in any of the deals he touts. He tries to upgrade you numerous times. If you spend $1950 per year and am an accredited investor you then have access to quality deal flow that Neil invests in himself. Otherwise… buyer beware!!!!!

mangell
Guest
mangell

Angels and Entrepreneurs (another program from Money Map Press) is okay if you understand what you are paying for. I joined at the minimum “Founder” level and will invest with research outside A&E’s own due diligence. The crowd funding group that handles the start-up’s fund will provide as much if not more info. What’s the most annoying about Money Map Press is their bombardment with emails to get you to upgrade! I belong to a few of Money Map’s subscriptions. I constantly receive emails where one of their people are using another groups email address list to hook you onto… Read more »

Ron Jackson
Guest
Ron Jackson

You are smart people. If it sounds to good to be true it probably is.
Neil Patel will be the money winner here, not you.
Stop and think.

Sandra
Guest
Sandra

I joined Neil’s group a few months ago, have not invested anything yet, I have not received any emails asking to upgrade his program, But, I just wasted 2 hours of my Sunday watching a Video that Neil sent out to his email list, the video was from Tom Gentile, after doing the research on Tom’s offer, turns out it is a scam, I sent Neil an email that he should do his research on the programs that he is promoting, for me he looses credibility for promoting scams.

MicheleM
Guest
MicheleM

I was annoyed by Neil hawking Gentile’s cannabis options program also with the high pressure pitch to “sign up by friday.” I emailed A&E to inquire what Neil’s relationship with Tom was, was he getting paid to hawk his program, what was better about it than McCalls cannabis option program for only $999 rather than $2500, and why would he say that the real money to be made is in angel investing rather than the stock market, and then turn around and pitch not only this options program with Gentile, but then another one with Shah Gilani!

Sara Rae
Guest
Sara Rae

My main complaint if the constant harassing emails requesting I upgrade my membership because apparently the initially great membership deal isn’t all that great. I initially joined for 2 yrs $79 dollars. Shortly thereafter I kept receiving daily emails encouraging me to spent another $1900 or so to upgrade to VIP status and great sales pitch of how much more lucrative these deals will be. of course there is the pressure of “this deal wont last long” I did and honestly I am not that impressed with the “better” deals. Furthermore, the minimum you can invest of some for the… Read more »

Chan
Guest
Chan

Hi Sara … I’m where you are… considering the upgrade. Is there a limit though to investing? On Republic it says 2200 … but you say that some of these other deals require 1900 minimum?

Sue
Guest
Sue

don’t upgrade, you need much more money to invest in the so
called better deals. Don’t get caught up in the hype!

Sara Rae
Guest
Sara Rae

Hi chan, yes there is a limit based on your income, value, etc.

Tim
Guest
Tim

That how these companies work, they want as much if your money as they can get. We will see in time how the reviews go. Myself I will not upgrade until this company shows son positive result.
I mean they joined the likes of Tom Gentile, most reviews on this guy are negative

Dewey Hansen
Guest
Dewey Hansen

I need the step-by-step instructions on how to invest in the $50 startups as stated in your presentation at the summit.

Randall
Guest