what is george gilder’s moonshot stock using AI and crypto blockchain security?

By valmatelis, July 2, 2019

what is george gilder’s moonshot stock using AI and crypto blockchain security?

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condolawyer
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condolawyer

I’m wondering myself; he writes: (The company is publicly traded and is) developing digital asset securitization services through artificial intelligence and blockchain platforms. (It’s) a $142 million public company headquartered in New York City. Trading at less than $1.50 a share. I’m sure his pump and dump has already made it shoot up to $5 or 50, based on his “Moonshots” Also, a a $462 million network security company based in San Jose that is also using AI to combat cyberthreats… This company secured partnerships with Microsoft, McAfee, Symantec, Ericsson and other major brands. And more exciting, it’s working on… Read more »

robbins
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robbins

Check out IdentityMind Global https://identitymindglobal.com/about/ I have no idea really – I didn’t purchase Gilder’s research – but these companies seem to be networked/partnered through velocity ledger, Y2x and others – seems consistent with Gilder’s approach.

Tank
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Tank

Very interesting company but there’s no way that ordinary people are going to get into these private companies. Bought $300 of IDEX on Robinhood and will look at it every 6 months.

Dave R
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Dave R

IDEX is his moonshot stock using AI and crypto blockchain

Bruce Wertz
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Bruce Wertz

From the transcript of Gilder’s presentation he said it was “a $142 million dollar company headquartered in New York ” and “trading for around $1.29 per share”. IDEX has a 50% or more higher cap and almost double the share price. Do you still feel it is the “Moonshot” he alluded to?

warrenator
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Make sure you get the right ticker, though. It’s IEX, not IDEX.

nw7us-tomas
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nw7us-tomas

I doubt that it is IEX. IDEX fits better. Here is IEX: “About IEX, which is IDEX Corp. — IDEX engages in the provision of engineering solutions. It offers its products under two brands namely BAND-IT that produces stainless steel banding, buckles, and clamping systems; and Hurst Jaws of Life, which serves as a rescue tool. The firm operates through the following segments: Fluid and Metering Technologies; Health and Science Technologies; and Fire and Safety or Diversified Products. The Fluid and Metering Technologies segment involves in the design, production, and distribution of displacement pumps, valves, flow meters, injectors, and fluid-handling… Read more »

warrenator
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I take that back. Looks like Google pulled a switch on me when I was looking for it. It is indeed IDEX. No idea how that happened. Hope I didn’t confuse anyone.

robbins
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robbins

@Dave R – you beat me by a few minutes. I Googled around and came to the same conclusion. IDEX. Here’s the article about their name change…https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/seven-stars-cloud-announces-business-name-change-to-ideanomics-300702713.html

bunion132
Irregular

Thanks for the link. Did you notice the similarity in the verbiage between the video “tease” and the write-up you attached? I’m wondering if Gilder ghost-wrote the article on IDEX himself or if he “lifted” the words of the CEO. Hmmm…

mmdwacjm
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Anyone that misses out on IDEX will regret it until the end of their days. They are one of the most influential companies in EV buses , taxis, police cars, and motor bikes a nd light trucks. They setup the financing between municipalities and EVmanufacturers. They get a big piece of the sale and a smaller piece of the financing. They have many MOU’S with many cities in China to replace all buses to EV BUSES. They have a deal with tour bus companies to replace 800,000 buses by 2023 as mandated by the Chinese Gov. They inked a deal… Read more »

nw7us-tomas
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nw7us-tomas

But, with the situation with China vs. USA (initiated by President Trump), how volatile is IDEX stock as this tug-of-war continues? I’m going in, and will ride out the bumpy road. IMHO, I think the China issue will resolve in favor of the USA side of things. So, IDEX should rise, indeed.

Dave R
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Dave R

The 5 Recommendations are
ALLT ,ATEN, CEVA, IDEX, KEM,MITK, PI

robbins
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robbins

Thanks!

nw7us-tomas
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nw7us-tomas

How certain are you regarding these (ALLT, ATEN, CEVA, IDEX, KEM, MITK, PI)? I’m starting my research on these. So far, as I looked at IDEX, I have mixed thoughts on that company. The track record thus far is pretty volatile. But, Gilder is signaling that the company has huge potential and will break out of the doldrums (if this is, indeed, the company that he touts in his paid material).

bunion132
Irregular

Thank you for your generosity! I was thrown off by the market caps mentioned in the video vs. today’s figures (higher), so I guess the clip is not recent.

jehu776
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jehu776

Are there 2 losers in the mix?

wei06880
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wei06880

I figured out the ATEN, but you guys beat me on the rest!

Steve
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Steve

What do you guys think of these companies?

Alex
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Alex

IDEX website is a joke, and none of the leaders have technical training MS/PhD etc. Articles published about them show an ill-defined business plan and constant losses. Is George Gilder really recommending this company?

robbins
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robbins

Steve – I realize most of us are in this thread looking for confidence in a stock pick, and this reply is not that. But, in the spirit of the community, and in case it helps you, I’m taking a shot to answer your question. Here’s exactly what I think of these companies… I think all these companies are in the wild west of blockchain development. Any one of them could breakthrough and most, if not all of them will fail as blockchain providers. As I understand it, the basic investment approach used by venture capitalists is they count on… Read more »

Steve Schafer
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Steve Schafer

Dave R: Are these companies from his Moonshot Newsletter?

Alex
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Alex

George G. is an Intelligent Designer that styles himself as a digital information guru yet thinks Shannon Information Theory is invalid.

bunion132
Irregular

Would you mind providing an example or two to illustrate your resolve? For instance, you’ve called IDEX a “joke”. Does it, or how doest it, invalidate the Shannon Info Theory?

madmark
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madmark

New to Gumshoe! Happy to be here. I read this topic with interest. While Gilder seems more of a huckster lately, I remember following him in the 90’s when he was (correctly) pushing Qualcomm, and I think he’s brilliant. I did some of my own research this morning, and ran into this promotion for his newsletter, and says that in the video he will reveal the stock pick. https://pro.gilderpress.info/p/GGM_moonshotslaunch_0619/MGGMV709/?h=true I didn’t finish the video as it’s one of those endless videos that never tell you anything. So I used the link for the transcript (it’s LONG!), however, and scanned through… Read more »

OSUfball
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Gilder’s name brings back fond memories. In the 90’s I did very well subscribing to his newsletter. Literally every stock pick of his would moonshot (Qualcomm, JDS Uniphase, Broadcom). Was it a function of him being correct about the underlying technology or was he just part of the late 90’s internet/tech mania and riding the crest?

nw7us-tomas
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nw7us-tomas

I had a chance to have lunch with Gilder, back in the early 1990s. It was quite a discussion and that had a good bit of impact on me and my view of things. Fond memories, indeed. I’m not waxing nostalgic, now, but still, I have respect for his and his team’s work.

madmark
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madmark

Here’s a video interview of the CEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLdxPBf01j4

I’m still trying to understand what IP they might own to make them more than just a financial consulting firm and dealmaker.

madmark
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madmark

Actually, these two videos are much better:

Alf Poor, IDEX CEO interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a18A-ekpIcg

Dr. Bruno Wu, Chairman Interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr6INMqMuDo

Alex
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Alex

International relations PhD from China. Not tech background. Smell scam

Jewel
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Jewel

Good call. IDEX tanked today, July 16, after news that a court case has been initiated by a top US legal firm to investigate concerns whether Ideanomics and certain of its officers and/or directors have engaged in securities fraud or other unlawful business practices

Alex
Guest
Alex

International Relations PhD from China. Not tech background, smell scam.

bunion132
Irregular

Way to go, Gumshoers! Did you see what IDEX did today, July 8th? It’s up in extended trading as well.

nw7us-tomas
Member
nw7us-tomas

Yup. Since I put my money in (symbol IDEX), last week, today gave me a total return of +16.49%, overall, +19.83%. Just know that this will be volatile and there will be some down days, too. I’m in it for the long term.

madmark
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madmark

Just keep in mind, the very recent gains are likely due to people who saw the Gilder report buying in. I bought some at the open today. A small amount. But one thing that is bugging me is that on their website there is no reference to any of the technical people they have (and the company, seems to have under a hundred employees). Or patents. And the other thing I noticed is their recent acquisitions don’t have anything to do with blockchain–they don’t even seem like important acquisitions. Very minor. Makes me very suspicious. I’m only in it because… Read more »

nw7us-tomas
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nw7us-tomas

Other interesting data – holdings: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IDEX/holders?p=IDEX

Tommie
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Tommie

In his video that plugs his newest moonshot subscription, some companies that Gilder does mention are Brave, Bitmain, Blockstat, NEO, Cardano, EOS, IOTA, RaiBlocks, Jonetex and Rivetz. He mentions that these are private companies and that you need to get the inside–which means subscribing to Moonshots I’m assuming? What do subscribers think of it so far? Is it worth the cost? I research a lot into this type of tech (blockchain, etc.) so I’m interested in expanding my information sources.

Pete
Guest

I know the NEO, Cardano, EOS, IOTA, RaiBlocks and Rivetz can be purchased on crypto exchange like binance or hitBTC. hitBTC does not always provide sufficient volume depending on the token.

madmark
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madmark

Well it’s a good thing I only purchased a very small amount if IDEX. Down 33% in 10 days. Ouch! I sure hope Gilder isn’t pulling the wool over our eyes, or got snookered by his partners in this investment scheme. I respect him, and hate to see this just be part of a newsletter scam.