what is george gilder’s moonshot stock using AI and crypto blockchain security?

By valmatelis, July 2, 2019

what is george gilder’s moonshot stock using AI and crypto blockchain security?

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condolawyer
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condolawyer

I’m wondering myself; he writes: (The company is publicly traded and is) developing digital asset securitization services through artificial intelligence and blockchain platforms. (It’s) a $142 million public company headquartered in New York City. Trading at less than $1.50 a share. I’m sure his pump and dump has already made it shoot up to $5 or 50, based on his “Moonshots” Also, a a $462 million network security company based in San Jose that is also using AI to combat cyberthreats… This company secured partnerships with Microsoft, McAfee, Symantec, Ericsson and other major brands. And more exciting, it’s working on… Read more Β»

robbins
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robbins

Check out IdentityMind Global https://identitymindglobal.com/about/ I have no idea really – I didn’t purchase Gilder’s research – but these companies seem to be networked/partnered through velocity ledger, Y2x and others – seems consistent with Gilder’s approach.

Tank
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Tank

Very interesting company but there’s no way that ordinary people are going to get into these private companies. Bought $300 of IDEX on Robinhood and will look at it every 6 months.

Dave R
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IDEX is his moonshot stock using AI and crypto blockchain

Bruce Wertz
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Bruce Wertz

From the transcript of Gilder’s presentation he said it was “a $142 million dollar company headquartered in New York ” and “trading for around $1.29 per share”. IDEX has a 50% or more higher cap and almost double the share price. Do you still feel it is the “Moonshot” he alluded to?

warrenator
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Make sure you get the right ticker, though. It’s IEX, not IDEX.

nw7us-tomas
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nw7us-tomas

I doubt that it is IEX. IDEX fits better. Here is IEX: “About IEX, which is IDEX Corp. — IDEX engages in the provision of engineering solutions. It offers its products under two brands namely BAND-IT that produces stainless steel banding, buckles, and clamping systems; and Hurst Jaws of Life, which serves as a rescue tool. The firm operates through the following segments: Fluid and Metering Technologies; Health and Science Technologies; and Fire and Safety or Diversified Products. The Fluid and Metering Technologies segment involves in the design, production, and distribution of displacement pumps, valves, flow meters, injectors, and fluid-handling… Read more Β»

gma
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gma

Hi, last night I watched the moonshots vid, only signed up this weekend, had a look at IDEX It’s $167 ! thought it was supposed to be couple of dollars? can anyone explain please?

warrenator
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I take that back. Looks like Google pulled a switch on me when I was looking for it. It is indeed IDEX. No idea how that happened. Hope I didn’t confuse anyone.

kevinrawle
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kevinrawle

IDEX isn’t a good sock, very volatile- no dividend and only a 45% average return for the last 10 years. overall a poor rating.

robbins
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robbins

@Dave R – you beat me by a few minutes. I Googled around and came to the same conclusion. IDEX. Here’s the article about their name change…https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/seven-stars-cloud-announces-business-name-change-to-ideanomics-300702713.html

bunion132
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Thanks for the link. Did you notice the similarity in the verbiage between the video “tease” and the write-up you attached? I’m wondering if Gilder ghost-wrote the article on IDEX himself or if he “lifted” the words of the CEO. Hmmm…

mmdwacjm
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Anyone that misses out on IDEX will regret it until the end of their days. They are one of the most influential companies in EV buses , taxis, police cars, and motor bikes a nd light trucks. They setup the financing between municipalities and EVmanufacturers. They get a big piece of the sale and a smaller piece of the financing. They have many MOU’S with many cities in China to replace all buses to EV BUSES. They have a deal with tour bus companies to replace 800,000 buses by 2023 as mandated by the Chinese Gov. They inked a deal… Read more Β»

nw7us-tomas
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nw7us-tomas

But, with the situation with China vs. USA (initiated by President Trump), how volatile is IDEX stock as this tug-of-war continues? I’m going in, and will ride out the bumpy road. IMHO, I think the China issue will resolve in favor of the USA side of things. So, IDEX should rise, indeed.

Dave R
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The 5 Recommendations are
ALLT ,ATEN, CEVA, IDEX, KEM,MITK, PI

robbins
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robbins

Thanks!

nw7us-tomas
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nw7us-tomas

How certain are you regarding these (ALLT, ATEN, CEVA, IDEX, KEM, MITK, PI)? I’m starting my research on these. So far, as I looked at IDEX, I have mixed thoughts on that company. The track record thus far is pretty volatile. But, Gilder is signaling that the company has huge potential and will break out of the doldrums (if this is, indeed, the company that he touts in his paid material).

bunion132
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Thank you for your generosity! I was thrown off by the market caps mentioned in the video vs. today’s figures (higher), so I guess the clip is not recent.

jehu776
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jehu776

Are there 2 losers in the mix?

Joe Smoe
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Joe Smoe

What is your experience with the Moonstruck newsletter, tnx.

Mike Petersen
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Mike Petersen

That’s 7!

wei06880
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wei06880

I figured out the ATEN, but you guys beat me on the rest!

Steve
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Steve

What do you guys think of these companies?

Alex
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Alex

IDEX website is a joke, and none of the leaders have technical training MS/PhD etc. Articles published about them show an ill-defined business plan and constant losses. Is George Gilder really recommending this company?

robbins
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robbins

Steve – I realize most of us are in this thread looking for confidence in a stock pick, and this reply is not that. But, in the spirit of the community, and in case it helps you, I’m taking a shot to answer your question. Here’s exactly what I think of these companies… I think all these companies are in the wild west of blockchain development. Any one of them could breakthrough and most, if not all of them will fail as blockchain providers. As I understand it, the basic investment approach used by venture capitalists is they count on… Read more Β»

Steve Schafer
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Steve Schafer

Dave R: Are these companies from his Moonshot Newsletter?

Alex
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Alex

George G. is an Intelligent Designer that styles himself as a digital information guru yet thinks Shannon Information Theory is invalid.

bunion132
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Would you mind providing an example or two to illustrate your resolve? For instance, you’ve called IDEX a “joke”. Does it, or how doest it, invalidate the Shannon Info Theory?

madmark
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madmark

New to Gumshoe! Happy to be here. I read this topic with interest. While Gilder seems more of a huckster lately, I remember following him in the 90’s when he was (correctly) pushing Qualcomm, and I think he’s brilliant. I did some of my own research this morning, and ran into this promotion for his newsletter, and says that in the video he will reveal the stock pick. https://pro.gilderpress.info/p/GGM_moonshotslaunch_0619/MGGMV709/?h=true I didn’t finish the video as it’s one of those endless videos that never tell you anything. So I used the link for the transcript (it’s LONG!), however, and scanned through… Read more Β»

OSUfball
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Gilder’s name brings back fond memories. In the 90’s I did very well subscribing to his newsletter. Literally every stock pick of his would moonshot (Qualcomm, JDS Uniphase, Broadcom). Was it a function of him being correct about the underlying technology or was he just part of the late 90’s internet/tech mania and riding the crest?

nw7us-tomas
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nw7us-tomas

I had a chance to have lunch with Gilder, back in the early 1990s. It was quite a discussion and that had a good bit of impact on me and my view of things. Fond memories, indeed. I’m not waxing nostalgic, now, but still, I have respect for his and his team’s work.

madmark
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madmark

Here’s a video interview of the CEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLdxPBf01j4

I’m still trying to understand what IP they might own to make them more than just a financial consulting firm and dealmaker.

madmark
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madmark

Actually, these two videos are much better:

Alf Poor, IDEX CEO interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a18A-ekpIcg

Dr. Bruno Wu, Chairman Interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr6INMqMuDo

Alex
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Alex

International relations PhD from China. Not tech background. Smell scam

Jewel
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Jewel

Good call. IDEX tanked today, July 16, after news that a court case has been initiated by a top US legal firm to investigate concerns whether Ideanomics and certain of its officers and/or directors have engaged in securities fraud or other unlawful business practices

Alex
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Alex

International Relations PhD from China. Not tech background, smell scam.

bunion132
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Way to go, Gumshoers! Did you see what IDEX did today, July 8th? It’s up in extended trading as well.

nw7us-tomas
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nw7us-tomas

Yup. Since I put my money in (symbol IDEX), last week, today gave me a total return of +16.49%, overall, +19.83%. Just know that this will be volatile and there will be some down days, too. I’m in it for the long term.

madmark
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madmark

Just keep in mind, the very recent gains are likely due to people who saw the Gilder report buying in. I bought some at the open today. A small amount. But one thing that is bugging me is that on their website there is no reference to any of the technical people they have (and the company, seems to have under a hundred employees). Or patents. And the other thing I noticed is their recent acquisitions don’t have anything to do with blockchain–they don’t even seem like important acquisitions. Very minor. Makes me very suspicious. I’m only in it because… Read more Β»

nw7us-tomas
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nw7us-tomas

Other interesting data – holdings: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IDEX/holders?p=IDEX

Tommie
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Tommie

In his video that plugs his newest moonshot subscription, some companies that Gilder does mention are Brave, Bitmain, Blockstat, NEO, Cardano, EOS, IOTA, RaiBlocks, Jonetex and Rivetz. He mentions that these are private companies and that you need to get the inside–which means subscribing to Moonshots I’m assuming? What do subscribers think of it so far? Is it worth the cost? I research a lot into this type of tech (blockchain, etc.) so I’m interested in expanding my information sources.

Pete
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I know the NEO, Cardano, EOS, IOTA, RaiBlocks and Rivetz can be purchased on crypto exchange like binance or hitBTC. hitBTC does not always provide sufficient volume depending on the token.

madmark
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madmark

Well it’s a good thing I only purchased a very small amount if IDEX. Down 33% in 10 days. Ouch! I sure hope Gilder isn’t pulling the wool over our eyes, or got snookered by his partners in this investment scheme. I respect him, and hate to see this just be part of a newsletter scam.

londonstrasbourg
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http://jonetix.com/founders__directors
This is George Gilder’s favorites of which he is a director..It has invented an unbreakable cryptochain for IOTA I think it still is a private company

bunion132
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It’s been about 1-1/2 months since this thread started. I tried asking Travis for his input on these Gilder stocks (if not Gilder himself) under “Ask a Stupid Question” . By his response, I thought we’d get some input in a Friday file but I guess we’re on our own on this one.

Seems to me that CEVA and PI are the best of the bunch and doing reasonably well. Does anyone have a similar assessment?

nw7us-tomas
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nw7us-tomas

It is imperative to remember that Gilder is looking at LONG potentials. Yeah, in short-term bursts, CEVA can provide nice OPTION opportunities… but, I am ignoring the short-term volatility because I have my eye on the future, years down the timeline. If Gilder’s assessment of these are long-term focused, then that’s what we bet on.

nw7us-tomas
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nw7us-tomas

I’ve been tracking the stocks mentioned in this conversation (namely, the supposedly identified stocks from Gilder).

Here are charts ( http://nw7us.us/charts/ ) for 21-August-2019, and, a weekly-interval chart group made on 21-August-2019. The weekly interval shows some of these stocks have a lot of volatility, but that’s tracking with QQQ and SPY, loosely. The whole market is highly-variable.

I think that these stocks have promise, and I do have positions with each of these: ALLT MITK CEVA ATEN PI KEM IDEX

Here are the charts: http://nw7us.us/charts/

Thoughts?

bunion132
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@nw7us-tomas, The long term, overall picture of Gilder’s stock teases as a group has changed (I think) with the announcement that centenarian KEMET is in the process of being acquired by Taiwanese company Yageo Corp for $27.20 per share. Chart-wise, the price spiked after the announcement (as is common with such cases) and is now just basing at the top. I’m wondering what you (and interested parties on this thread) intend to do with your current KEM position, considering that the stock has turned out to be the best-performing of Gilder’s picks.

Dave R
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Dave R

\new moonshot on a hidden 5g player – MXL

RubyRed
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RubyRed

Hi guys, If you’ve invested in IDEX, here’s a snippet from one of George’s moonshot reports… “During our live event you may have heard me mention a company that I was very excited about β€” a $142 million public company headquartered in New York City. That company is Ideanomics (IDEX). Ideanomics operates a consulting business that helps create blockchain enabled financial services. The company has a lot of exciting projects, but the most interesting is its Fintech Village. The village is expected to be constructed in an area formerly used as part of the UConn campus. This Fintech Village is… Read more Β»

madmark
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madmark

Seriously?! Damn. Well, that’s a $2,000 loss I’m not going to try to try and recoup from any other Gilder promotions. Done with him. I’ve lost respect for Gilder now.

Andre
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to be fair – GG mentioned it but did not recommended to add to portfolio !

bunion132
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Thank you, RubyRed, for providing this valuable information. I had closed my small (thank goodness!) IDEX position at a loss just a few days before your missive thinking I would repurchase at a later time when the price decline stabilized. I know now that the position is closed for good.

madmark
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madmark

I just ran into a PDF of Gilder’s Moonshot report where he names stocks; found it on Amazon AWS. . As for IDEX, he says it’s “on his watchlist.” And as RubyRed has just reported, Gilder is no longer interested in it; and I the quote he pulled and posted is also found in this report. Get the report while you can, don’t know how long it will be here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/gilderpress-uploads/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/01155044/GGM_WealthFromThe.pdf I don’t know the date of this, maybe someone can tell us if it’s recent. His picks for the six Moonshots listed in the report: Impinj (NASDAQ: PI) Mitek… Read more Β»

Lael
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Lael

Awesome, Thanks for this.
FYI for what it’s worth. His first report of The Gilder Report and his two current recommendations so far are: TCEHY and MAIN

madmark
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madmark

MAIN has a nice chart. I’m surprised he picked a financial; I was thinking his newsletter was all tech/futurist picks.

Don Hanson
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A big use for blockchain as a ledger system is financial