written by reader D R Barton Dark Edge / dark pool trades – new service 2020

By tommy2shoes, April 30, 2020

Any feedback on this? Sounds like option trades culled from large ”dark pool” trades, daily.
Seems plausible to me but hey… it’s Money Map Press

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CodyL
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got a link to see what it is referencing?

abstractpoet
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I watched the entire pitch and am intrigued. First of all, are there actual dark pool trades that take several days to process openly? If so, and IF someone can actually see these private exchanges in real time, then it makes sense that it’s valuable info. The institutional money will bump the stock and spur piggy-back buys when it goes public. His algorithm claims to select the hottest sectors with stocks that have the most dark pool money ahead of the expected bump. Price is $1,950 per year with actual money back guarantee, not just another year’s credit. Still pricey.… Read More »

lancew
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He’ll I’ll try it just put it on amex and if don’t make any money dispute they’ll take it off I just did that with marques booker I fell for his 1497 deal and she sent one text at midnight on Sunday 88 strike with a 8 put and 5 call which I had no earthly idea how that stuff works I tried to call them left messages just went ahead called amex over and done. I’m new do all this but all the stuff I’ve been watching seems like there either 49.95 or over a 1000 he’ll if you… Read More »

Andrew Lee
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Andrew Lee

lancew,

The presentation claims a conditional guarantee of at least 1359% from a year’s subscription. But the order form states at the bottom that it is a non-refundable offer. So caveat emptor!

MikeS
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MikeS

Andrew Lee, exactly, I just submitted a question to them via their form submission on the website https://darkedgeproject.com/contact-us/ Here’s the question I sent: My inquiry is on the Dark Edge Project, specifically the guarantee promoted in the sales page. QUOTE: “If my track record hasn’t built up to 1,359% total gains (including losses). Your membership dues will be returned to you. It’s that simple.” This guarantee seems to be directed to D.R. Barton, Jr. and his service as a whole vs. to the subscriber’s results, is that correct ? Also, at the bottom of the sign up form you see… Read More »

Andrew S Mutz
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Andrew S Mutz

Did you get a response?

exvestor
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exvestor

Ask if those gains promised are “cumulative gains”… a BS marketing term that presupposes that you put the identical lot of $10k into each trade, even though you have several positions at 10k ea. open at the same time. (Arithmetically limits your principal at risk to $x and adds all gains up to y%, whereas your actual principal at risk was $x times 2,5,7, 10 or 12 (or more.) If you have 3 trades at 10k each gaining 5%, you’d have average gains of 5%. In newsletter lingo, that would be “cumulative gains of 15%!!!!” — a 200% distortion of… Read More »

Denise J
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Denise J

Mike S.- Please let us know when/if you get a response to this question, and what they say. Thanks.

monty5235
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you know, If I was D.R Barton Jnr and I had discovered this ground breaking tactic I would advertise it but offer to prove it and ask each person reading the ad to send an email and I would send instructions on two deals but up the subscription to 5K per annum… wonder why they don’t offer to beta test with one what they are pushing.. rhetorical question by the way …. just as equally and more likely would be if I was J.R Barton and I had discovered this ground breaking tactic I would probably tell a few good… Read More »

gkissi
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Or simply do a monthly subscription instead of asking people to pony up the whole year’s subscription up front. The fact that these so called gurus don’t offer a monthly subscription tells me they are not confident they can produce the what they claim their system does. Lance Ippolito from has an options service that he claims is based on “Unusual Option activity” that indicates what “smart money” is buying for $2000 per year. After several emails and refusing to pony up that kinda money they sent me a quarterly subscription for $500 so I decided to try it out.… Read More »

Loralie
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Loralie

I just listened to his Infomercial about his Stock trading Blitz and knew to check for scam complaints. The profits he claims are ridiculous.

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OSUfball
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There are screeners that you can pay a monthly fee and get this info. FlowAlgo (http://flowalgo.com) is an example of one. I would not pay any guru to feed me this info as he or she is probably front running the info.

MikeS
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MikeS

Thanks OSUfball, this site sheds all kinds of light on the dark edge project, Ok, because you don’t know how to drive I’ll drive you around for 2,000.00 annually. No thanks, I’ll drive myself

OSUfball
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I actually found a free site called aidedtrade (https://www.aidedtrade.io). Just click the “X” on the subscribe now popup that appears. 100% free and no registration or free trial nonsense.

Denise J
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Denise J

I joined this service 10 days ago, and so far every option trade but one that has been suggested is losing. So, the pitch claims a conditional guarantee of at least 1359% from a year’s subscription (this was based on beta testing from Oct 2019 through Feb 2020) however, the order form states at the bottom that it is a non-refundable offer. I will give it a chance, but right now am feeling buyers remorse.

MikeS
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MikeS

Thank’s for the input Denise, sorry to hear buyers remorse 🙁 hopefully thing will pick up for you but it sure would help everyone else if you could keep posting updates. Have you been doing just the 3 trades a week or has it been more ?

jedwards92886
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Denise look at what Money Map Press is reporting for their first two trades:
100% in seven days and 124% in just 22 hours.
I subscribe to a few of their services I was thinking about starting a Money Map Subscribers site so we could share the information and recommendations they provide?. Do you have any thoughts?

Denise J
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Denise J

I wasn’t there for first two trades in Dark Edge. So, I cannot comment on that. jedwards92886, I’m not sure if you can share that information without violationg some SEC rules.

This was a comment in the trading room this morning.
10:43 AM: I am down $5,000 approx on six trades of DR,s

Denise J
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Denise J

I have been a member of the Dark Edge Project for a month now. Of the 12 trades that I have entered in, 3 have been 100% winners. However, the winning amount is not enough to cover the losses. When I first joined, we did not enter our trades with stop losses. As of yesterday, we now use stop losses. Right now to me, it does not seem that the Dark Pool Data has shown any more winning trades than good technical and fundamental analysis could achieve.

Denise J
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Denise J

For week ending 6/5/20, there were four 100% winning trades. However, there were three, 98-99% losing trades as well. I was not able to get in on the winning trades because I had my money tied up in the losing trades. We held these waaaay too long. Besides the stock moving against us, the time decay of the options chewed away at the price also. I used my $1200 stimulus money for this, and set that as the limit of what I would use. You need to have more money than that in order to do all these trades, which… Read More »

Denise J
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Denise J

Trading strategy has changed on DarkEdge. To minimize losses, we are now following this guideline. Sell-to-Close your contracts at 9:45am the morning after the first close at 50% below your entry price. Also, other analysis besides Dark Pool trades are being used to determine trades. The explanation is that any strategy has to be modified to fit the market conditions. This is true, but this is not what was advertised in the sales pitch.