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Doc Gumshoe – COVID-19 Miscellany, May 2020

I decided to add the year to my title in the event that this thing goes on for another full year, and I have to do an update in May 2021.   I pray fervently that such an eventuality will not come to pass, but it’s certainly possible.   Having said that, your obedient servant Doc Gumshoe continues to be an optimist, more or less, and continues on the alert for positive developments and hopeful bits of news.

Well, all I know is what I see on the internet, as Will Rogers would have said if he were around these days.   But here are some topics that Doc Gumshoe has looked at carefully, and which I hope you will think deserving of attention.

The first, and likely most important and most hopeful of these is the emergence of herd immunity.

When, and how, will herd immunity emerge to protect us from the coronavirus?

The “herd” I am referring to here is not cows or sheep, but us – the human population.   The way it works, and the reason it works, is that viruses are not able to survive on their own.   They can exist for a limited time outside of a host.   The duration of that limited time varies among different viruses; in the corona virus (now designated SARS-CoV-2) under normal circumstances it may be as long as 48 hours, but usually much shorter.   It depends, as probably you have heard, on its specific environment; for example, on steel or hard plastic, it might still be present and a possible source of infection 48 hours after it was first deposited there by a cough or a sneeze.   On some other metals, such as copper, not more than about 6 hours.   On paper, cardboard, textiles, and other absorbent surfaces, a considerably shorter time.   Of course, researchers have their ways of keeping the virus alive and active for longer.    

Therefore, in order to survive, a virus needs to penetrate a living being and kidnap the resources it needs to reproduce, which it manages with considerable efficiency.   Multitudes of viral particles can take up residence in a single living cell, appropriate the cell’s own functions, kill the cell, and emerge to invade other cells.   In the case of the novel corona virus, the spikes on the exterior of the virus have the special ability to attach to receptors on the exterior of living cells in the host.   These spikes, by the way, are what give corona viruses their name – they resemble a crown.   

When it penetrates the living cell, the virus is recognized as an invader, and the innate immune system of the living being that the virus has invaded (the host) will produce antibodies, which at the same time can attach to the viral particles and alert the immune system’s defense forces to attack the virus.   The host that the virus has invaded – human or animal – uses its immune response to combat and eliminate the virus.   An all-out war has been declared, and the host is the battlefield.   This is not necessarily agreeable for the host.   We – the human hosts that have been invaded by the virus – develop fevers, inflammation, aches, and other symptoms that we may interpret as signs that we are sick, but are in reality signs that we’re desperately fighting off a severe disease.

But even after the virus’s host wins this war – which we fervently hope the host does win – the antibodies remain, and act as sentries in case the virus should invade again.   It’s not known at this moment what degree of immunity those persons have who have been infected with the evil corona virus and fought off the COVID-19 disease, but what is known about viruses strongly suggests that some immunity will be present in those individuals.   How powerful that immunity will be and how long it will last is a matter of speculation at this time.   

Vaccines are the other pathway to immunity.   At present, more than 100 potential COVID-19 vaccines are in development.   We’ll take a look at a few of the more promising candidates later on in this piece, but despite a certain person’s promise to have 300 million doses of a vaccine available by January of 2021, that timetable seems a stretch.

A vaccine is carefully crafted to produce an immune response without causing the actual disease.   Frequently vaccines do cause some mild symptoms, and the symptoms do vary among the many vaccines.   The smallpox vaccine usually produced a single little pox on the skin at the site of the inoculation.   Many vaccines cause aching arms at the injections site, and mild headaches or a mild  sickish feeling.   (What Doc Gumshoe can state with total conviction is that vaccines do not cause autism.)   

In any case, those mild symptoms are manifestations of an immune reaction, which is what the vaccine is meant to trigger.   The immune reaction essentially means that the vaccinated individual now has a troop of sentinels which are primed to recognize the invasion of the specific pathogens and summon a militia of phagocytes and lymphocytes.   In the case of viruses, the most effective militia are a class of lymphocytes called T-cells, sometimes called natural killer cells, which are highly effective against most viruses.

(Exceptions to this are retroviruses like the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) that causes AIDS.   These are particularly successful in terms of viral life, because they do not trigger an immune response.   Instead, they take over the host’s immune system, disabling T-cells.   Individuals infected with HIV can live for years without exhibiting any symptoms.   However, during those years they continue to carry and transmit HIV.   This is good for the virus, but catastrophic for the human hosts.)

At this point, no one can say with certainty whether individuals who have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 and recovered have immunity to the virus, and if so, how strong that immunity is and how long it will last.   The assumption is that those individuals will have some immunity, and the hope is that the immunity will persist long enough to protect those individuals from infection in at least the near future.   The same hope applies to the effects of a vaccine.   

The hope, essentially, is that enough persons – either because they have had the disease or been vaccinated, or both – will possess a degree of immunity such that the virus cannot spread like wildfire through the population.   The percentage of individuals in the community necessary to provide immunity to the entire herd of humanity is not precisely known, but it is quite high.   The human race was protected from smallpox by herd immunity because almost everybody had been vaccinated against smallpox.   (That herd immunity has vanished at this point, since people are no longer routinely vaccinated against smallpox, but the disease itself has also vanished.)   Up until quite recently, herd immunity kept the measles totally under control, but then a few parents decided that vaccinating their children against the measles violated their principles, with the result that the measles reappeared, and there were even deaths from the measles.

The way herd immunity works is by depriving the pathogen of a site to which it can spread and reproduce.   If in a class of 30 children, all are vaccinated, even if one child gets the measles despite being vaccinated, it doesn’t spread.   (Since no vaccine is 100% effective, some children who have been vaccinated may also get the measles.)      The child recovers; the measles virus expires since it has no place to hide.   But if a sizeable number of children are not vaccinated, the measles will spread.   

In brief: the transmission of a disease, whether bacterial or viral, is in inverse proportion to the percentage of the population that has immunity.   The more people that are immune, the less the disease spreads; the fewer people that are immune, the more the disease spreads.

I deeply hope that herd immunity rises in our country and the world because of the availability of a vaccine and the widespread use of the vaccine, and not because the corona virus itself has infected most of the world’s population.   And I also deeply hope that when this vaccine becomes available, the vaccine deniers don’t try to quash it by manufacturing rumors that the vaccine itself causes some dire disease.   A great deal depends on widespread vaccination – not less than the future of humanity and civilization.   

So, when will a vaccine become generally available?

That depends on whom you ask, and also where you’re asking from.   The White House proclaims that a vaccine will be available to one and all (at least here in the good old USA) by January, 2021.   To that end, a project has been announced whose objective is having 300,000,000 doses – that’s 300 million, by next January.   The project, dubbed Operation Warp Speed, is headed by Moncef Slaouli, who was chairman of vaccines at GlaxoSmithKline.   General Gustave F. Perna, who is in charge of the Army Matériel Command, will be the chief operating officer, tasked with getting those 300 million doses of the hoped-for vaccine manufactured and distributed.

The plan is that the fruit of their labors will be an effective vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 which will be exclusively reserved for Americans.   The plan, according to sources familiar with the plan, is to have 100 million doses available this November and the other 200 million in December and January of next year.   

The project initially focused on 14 candidates selected from the 110 or so possible vaccines that have emerged in the past few months.   That list of 14 was narrowed to eight, chosen in part because they represent different technologies, or platforms, as they are called.   Much of the focus thus far has been on just two technologies.   One constructed with the messenger RNA encoding the corona virus surface proteins that form the spike, or crown.   The other uses an adenovirus (one of the viruses that causes the common cold) to carry a protein that has the capacity to disable the corona virus.   However, other pathways to disable or eliminate the corona virus are being investigated, and the Operation Warp Speed project will consider these as well.

An official speaking for the project made the point that Warp Speed will not consider pushing any potential vaccines made in China or based on Chinese research, such as the inactivated virus vaccine which was recently shown to protect monkeys from the virus.   However, the winning candidate might well be manufactured by a company that is not headquartered in the United States.

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Warp Speed’s plan, based perhaps as much on hope as on careful preparation, is to have all candidate vaccines in human trials by July of this year.   At the same time, the plan is to conduct large-scale investigations of safety in hamsters and monkeys, in order to winnow out any vaccine that produces significant adverse events. 

In the meantime, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) has an initiative called Accelerating COVID-19 Interventions and Vaccines (ACTIV).   It’s relationship with Warp Speed remains unclear.   ACTIV plans to coordinate clinical trial of several COVID-19 vaccines, and is also considering human challenge studies, in which vaccines would be fast-tracked by immunizing healthy subjects (volunteers, of course) and then deliberately infecting them with SARS-CoV-2 or a weakened version of it.   This, I should hardly need to point out, is highly controversial.   However, a phalanx of courageous volunteers has already come forward.

One promising candidate is a vaccine in development by Moderna, Inc (MRNA).   In early trials it was found that the vaccine, mRNA-1273 produced levels of antibodies in trial subjects similar to those found in blood samples from persons who have recovered from COVID-19.   Moderna is planning to start late stage trials in July.

Other efforts to develop a vaccine include the Coronavirus Global Response, organized by the European Commission.   The World Health Organization (WHO) and other groups have formed the Access to COVID-19 Tools Accelerator.   And the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is watching about 15 vaccine candidates and will support the most promising among them.   These initiatives aim to achieve equitable worldwide distribution of vaccines when they become available.   Many experts have expressed concern that the Warp Speed plan, which would restrict any resulting vaccines for use in the US only, would deny access to such vaccines to the most vulnerable populations outside the US.  These concerns led more than 140 world leaders to sign an open letter asking governments to consider Covid-19 vaccines to be a “global good” and ensure equal access when the resource does become available.

What is the real fatality rate?

As of today, May 18, when I am writing this, the total number of confirmed cases of COVID-19 on the planet is 4,758,937, with 316,277 fatalities.   These numbers are certainly inaccurate, since every country tracks these numbers somewhat differently.   They are also certain to constitute a considerable undercount, because not every person was tested who had possible COVID-19 symptoms, nor was every person tested who died in the period since COVID-19 emerged.   

Ecuador stands out as a prime example.   Despite its relatively youthful and generally healthy population, Ecuador experienced a high rate of infection and death due to COVID-19, even based on the official confirmed figures.   However, consider this: between March 1st and April 15th, there were 7,600 more deaths in Ecuador than the average number during that span of time in the pre-COVID-19 years.   The number of deaths that the government had officially attributed to the corona virus during that period was 503.   If many or most of those 7,600 excess deaths were due to COVID-19, it would suggest that the actual COVID-19 fatality rate in Ecuador was as much 15 times higher than the official published rate.   (The term “excess deaths” is the epidemiologists’ terminology for the gap between the observed and normal number of deaths; the rest of us probably consider any deaths at all to be in excess of what is desirable.)

In the US, the indications are that in at least nine states the excess fatality rate has been far above normal.   These include California, Colorado, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Vermont, and Washington.   New York City alone has reported 13,831 confirmed COVID-19 deaths as well as another 5,408 probably related to COVID, but the excess death gap totaled 24,172, suggesting that there may have been nearly 5,300 unreported COVID deaths,       

New York State has so far tested about 7,500 for corona virus antibodies.     Statewide, nearly 1 in 7 tested positive for the antibodies, and in New York City, the number was higher – 1 in 5 New York City residents tested positive for coronavirus antibodies.   Those results suggest that about 2.7 million people in the state of New York have at this point been infected with the corona virus.

When I look at the ratio between confirmed COVID-19 cases and fatalities in various communities in my part of the country, the discrepancies are quite large, and surprising.   For instance, as of May 13th:

 

WhereConfirmed

Cases

FatalitiesPercent
Putnam County, NY1,10870.6
Westchester County ,NY31,6111,2453.4
Fairfield County. CT13,6361,0687.8
New Haven, CT9,5707457.8
Hartford, CT7,73297312.5

These differences probably reflect genuine environmental factors that affect infection rates and fatality rates.   Putnam County is a good deal more rural than Westchester County, thus making it easier for people to maintain social distancing.   In Connecticut, Hartford is more congested than New Haven or Fairfield County.   However, it’s also likely that there are differences in the availability of testing between various areas.   

The COVID-19 fatality rate has hit certain populations particularly hard.   For example, in a veteran’s care facility in New Jersey, 72 people died, more than 10% of the residents – not 10% of the confirmed cases, as we were discussing above, but 10% of the entire population of the facility.   Nursing homes and some hospitals have been disproportionately hit, no doubt due to the extreme difficulty (not to say impossibility) of maintaining distancing between persons, as well as the compromised health of the residents.   For example, 70% of the COVID-19 deaths in the state of Connecticut have occurred in nursing homes or senior care facilities.   The town where I live in Fairfield County has reported about 40 COVID-19 fatalities to date, but 38 of these have been in senior assisted living facilities.      

Housing conditions and living arrangements clearly affect the fatality rate, likely due to difficulties in maintaining distancing.   A person living in a multiple-story apartment building or housing project may have no choice but to ride in crowded elevators and walk in hallways that do not permit distancing.                

It has been clearly established that COVID-19 has affected some ethnic/racial groups more severely than others.   The fatality rate among black and Hispanic populations is significantly higher than among the white population, and this difference is largely attributable to economic disparities that are reflected in living conditions.   More crowding, sometimes resulting in several persons sharing one room, lead to a higher fatality rate, for obvious reasons.   It is also likely that there are more deaths from COVID-19 that have not been specifically attributed to the virus.   

The factors that point to a significantly higher fatality rate from COVID-19 than the confirmed deaths almost certainly apply to the rest of the world.   My source of information about the global spread of the disease is the John Hopkins website, which as of today shows that in 104 countries the number of fatalities has only attained double digits, and in about 11 of these, the number of fatalities is in the single digits.   For example, Botswana has reported one single fatality.   Those low fatality figures are almost certainly due to low testing rates.   Deaths in individuals who have not been confirmed as infected with the corona virus are not counted as COVID-19 fatalities, so it’s a virtual certainty that both the number of cases and the number of deaths are greatly underreported, especially in the less-developed world.

There are also differences in the rates of infection and death stemming from the way the disease is managed in different places.   An example is a comparison between fatalities in Sweden compared with Norway, neighboring countries with similar cultures and economic conditions.   However, while Norway has practiced the social distancing and restriction of a great many businesses and entertainment enterprises, Sweden has mostly skipped those restrictions, concentrating on the elderly population, based on the reports that it’s the elderly that the virus most impacts.   However, the fatality figures cast doubt on that calculation.   Sweden’s population is not quite double Norway’s, but the fatality rate is three and a half times that of Norway’s.  

What this might imply about the ultimate toll of the COVID-19 pandemic is a matter of speculation.   Comparison with the influenza pandemic of 1918 – 1919 is inevitable but not necessarily enlightening.   That pandemic was perhaps the second deadliest pandemic in history, second only to the bubonic plague that may have caused the deaths of a hundred million (or more!) during the 14th century, when the global population was a tiny fraction of what it is today.   The flu pandemic killed about 50 million people globally, and 675,000 people in the US.   There were more deaths due to that pandemic than to World War I.   Many of the measures used at that time were similar to the ones we have adopted today, including closing schools and places of public entertainment, requiring people to wear masks in public, and enforcing “no spitting” ordinances.

Estimates vary enormously on the number of infected and the number of deaths before the corona virus is tamed.   Most knowledgeable authorities project a rate of infection and fatality that will ultimately reach major multiples of current levels, particularly in less developed parts of the world.   Ultimately, a great deal depends on immunity, whether as a result of a vaccine or because of the numbers of infected people around the globe who have recovered and retained immunity.

How can we tell whether or not we have immunity to the corona virus?

As of about a week ago, a test for antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 has received FDA Emergency Use Authorization.   This test, developed by Abbott, analyzes serum from a blood sample for immunoglobulin G I(IgG) and takes about three to five days for a result.   According to Abbott, this assay has specificity of 99.6% and sensitivity of 100%.   The specificity figure indicates a very low likelihood of false positives, meaning that a person receiving a positive result with this test can be almost certain that he/she was indeed infected with the corona virus.   The sensitivity figure indicates that if the test result is negative, meaning that the assay did not detect IgG related to the corona virus, the person can be entirely certain that he/she was not infected. 

The value of an antibody test is that a person with positive corona virus antibodies is likely, but not certain, to have at least a degree of immunity.  Does that mean that this person can totally ignore the precautions that the rest of us careful folk are taking every day?   At this point, we do not know for sure.   However, knowing that in all likelihood we had the infection and have some immunity must surely ease our minds.   Wearing the face mask and washing our hands is no big deal.   Hugging and kissing our friends and acquaintances might need to be deferred for a while.   We can probably go out to dinner, but it would make sense to pick a restaurant where the tables are not too scrunched together.   I would be skeptical about going to the movies.   And if you run into a guy who’s sneezing his head off, give him wide berth.

The Abbott antibody test, which is used by Quest Labs and a number of other sites, is not to be confused with the rapid test for the presence of the virus itself, also made by Abbott.   That test, Abbott Laboratories’ ID NOW molecular COVID-19 rapid test, supposedly could deliver positive results in as little as five minutes.   Because of the speedy results, this test was adopted for use at the White House, and in one case apparently caused considerable confusion.   Vice President Pence’s press secretary, Katie Miller, tested negative on the ID NOW test, but a few days was tested again and tested positive.   She is one of two White House staff personnel who have tested positive and are now in quarantine.   

The ID NOW test was examined closely by New York University’s Langone Labs, using samples from 101 patients.   Those test results were compared with the result of the Cepheid Xpert Xpress test, and the NYU researchers found that the ID NOW test missed detecting the corona virus in a large percentage of the samples that the Cepheid test had found positive.   The false negatives rate ran from about 33% to 48%, depending on the way the test samples were stored before analysis.   The ID NOW test, by the way, is not a blood test, but a nasal swab test.   Abbott, as might be expected, strongly disagreed with the results of the NYU lab’s investigation, asserting that their analysis was not properly conducted and that their own research had put the false negative rate at about 0.02%.

Some conclusions, put forward with some hesitation

A Doc Gumshoe reader commented recently that it would be a good idea for me to put my main take-aways in bullet form at the end of these pieces.   I hesitate to do this, because those “conclusions” are less conclusive when stripped from the context.   But I can see that it might make some sense to do that, so here goes…

  • One, first and foremost, our salvation lies in herd immunity.   It’s possible, of course, that the evil coronavirus will just peter out, but we humans (by which I mean all of us) can absolutely not rely on that.   Herd immunity, whether because huge numbers of us have had mild cases of COVID-19 or because all of us have been vaccinated, is what will bring an end to this pandemic.
  • Two, it is absolutely imperative that, when a vaccine becomes available, we all get vaccinated.
  • Three, it is highly likely that the total toll, disease and death, due to SARS-CoV-2, will be much, much higher than it has been to date.   As bad as it has been, it will – at least in some parts of the world – get worse.    

If you think this is a departure from my usual optimistic self, you are mistaken.   I remain an optimist.   I have confidence in the resourcefulness and resolve of our researchers and of at least some of our leaders.   I also think that most of us humans are pretty good folk, and will hang together to see this through.

Thanks for your comments, and, to all of you, be well and stay well.   Michael Jorrin, (aka Doc Gumshoe)

(Ed. Note:  Michael Jorrin, who I dubbed “Doc Gumshoe” many moons ago, is a longtime medical writer (not a doctor) who shares his thoughts on health and medicine with our readers a couple times a month.  He does not offer personal health or investment advice, and does not generally write about investment ideas, but has agreed to our trading and disclosure rules.  You can see all of his past columns here.)

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David Leader
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David Leader
May 19, 2020 12:37 pm

One of the best articles I’ve seen on the subject very well researched – not bothered about the guy sneezing as he probably has a cold (although I wouldn’t want one of those either). I particularly liked the statement about herd immunity being the only way out and that either we get the disease or we vaccinate. I would add that the data from the antibody test is also vital as at the moment we have no idea what the true death rate is as we don’t know how many people have had asymptomatic disease. If we assume 1 in 5 to 1 in 10 people have already had it then the death rates look a bit less scary and we are on our way to herd immunity. So that is may be good news. My feeling on the vaccination front is that there is some reason to be confident about the Moderna vaccine but here in the UK a group at Oxford also has a vaccine which Astrazeneca have agreed to make 30,000,000 doses of by sometime in September. Looks cloud cuckoo land stuff to me but good on them if they can do it and I wouldn’t bet against them. A lot of very clever people are working on this and many of the great companies are joining forces – I think maybe this is something we can point at as the good side of capitalism in the future.

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May 19, 2020 1:22 pm

Your statement that covid deaths will be “much much higher” is relying on the medical models that have proven to be catastrophically wrong, like 35 to 1 error rate? How can you seriously even mention those ridiculously errant stats. We were initially being scared by a model that promised 2.2 million Americans could die. That quickly went to 1 million, 500,00, then 250,000, then 100,000.

The promised ER room over load disaster has not happened. ER Rooms all over the nation are laying off non essential personnel because they are empty. There is strong evidence that many deaths are being wrongly categorized as “covid”. After the Federal government announced substantial financial reimbursement meant to support ER rooms, New York City retroactively reclassified over 3,700 deaths as covid overnight. The LA Times ,of course , did not miss a chance to fan the flames of fear with a head line that covid cases in NYC surged overnight.

The original reason for the lockdown was to flatten the curve. We heard for 2 months “the next 2weeks will be critical. The virus is expected to peak.” Now that has happened, the “2 weeks threat” is no longer being mentioned. Now, the conversation is that we need to be locked down until a vaccine is developed?

Your sentiment about vaccines is seriously over simplified. Of the measles outbreak that started at Disneyland in California, almost half had been vaccinated, indicating they should have been immune. They were not. While I’m sure there is value to vaccines, to assume there is no danger is categoricallycally wrong. The federal government funds a multi billion dollar fund to settle vaccine damage law suits, because our current law protects vaccine manufacturers from liability.

Any death is a tragedy, and I have no doubt people have died of corona virus. But the cure(shutting down the entire globe) is proving to be far worse than the disease. Estimates now are that many times more people will die of starvation, particularly in developing nations, because of the global lockdown.

The global lockdown was ill advised. The rush to a vaccine will also be ill advised.

Hopefully this will make it to your website. I suspect it won’t

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Investor Clouseau
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May 20, 2020 2:54 am
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You realize those were the numbers from modeling different (PPE and distancing) scenarios, right? That’s how modeling works.

The wrongly categorized deaths are conspiracy BS and that’s when I knew it your comment wasn’t worth reading further.

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jgreen22
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May 20, 2020 12:14 pm
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Actually, the deaths are much higher than reports indicate. It is mathematically simple to compare the observed to expected deaths for any locale. No modeling involved.

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Bruce Conaway
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May 19, 2020 2:06 pm

Comprehensive! Totally enjoyed.

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May 19, 2020 2:43 pm

“human challenge studies, in which vaccines would be fast-tracked by immunizing healthy subjects (volunteers, of course) and then deliberately infecting them with SARS-CoV-2 or a weakened version of it. This, I should hardly need to point out, is highly controversial. ”
Please point out why this would be even remotely controversial? What is controversial about allowing a volunteer to be a volunteer? We allow 18 year olds to join the military and give there lives in wars. I don’t see how human challenge studies are controversial if the subjects are volunteers. Also, why can’t phase 3 studies run concurrently with phase 2 studies? Why wait til July? I realize they would like to have the phase 2 data before starting phase 3, but when time is of the essence, it seems like it should be possible to make some conclusions based on phase 1, and proceed with some degree of phase 3.

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May 20, 2020 12:16 pm
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Because medical ethics and military ethics are not the same.

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May 19, 2020 2:43 pm

you think that’s liberty, spouting for EVERYBODY to be vaccinated? YOU don’t even know what’s in the vaccine and maybe you don’t realize that vaccine makers cannot be taken to court or held responsible for anything that happens when you take the vaccine- not even if you die or become disabled etc. YOU may want the vaccine, but isn’t that supposed to make you immune for whatever it is said to target? Well then you can let those who want to risk their own lives get on with it as it shouldn’t affect YOU. Agreeing to the premise that your body BELONGS TO THE STATE is a dangerous slippery slope into enforced chemo or radiation or even euthanize you at some certain age or if you are not productive/disabled/etc….Natural products might get banned under the pretext that they’re not good enough: you must take pharmaceuticals ……The time will come when even you will regret you agreed to this IMPOSITION.
YOU agree to enforced vaccination or to a situation where people can’t live a normal life if they don’t get vaccinated (eg not allowed to go to shops, gatherings, flying, voting, leaving the country, etc) and you will be the cause of future enforcements.
A eugenicist like Bill Gates who has been funding various labs in various countries for the last ten years AND politicians is now talking about GLOBAL vaccination with some implanted chip to prove your compliance. It shows clearly that this has been in the works for a long time. All it needed was a BIG SCARE to get people “asking for it”.
You want it, you have it. but forcefully object against ANY imposition!

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Investor Clouseau
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May 20, 2020 2:57 am
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Throw enough shitty arguments out there and see what sticks.
*shrug* It’s one strategy to live by, I guess. Stop beating your dead horse of “vaccines are supposed to make people immune!” because it’s a dead giveaway that you a) didn’t read or comprehend the article we’re here commenting on and b) you don’t understand the basic scientific principles at work.

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jgreen22
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May 20, 2020 12:20 pm
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I can appreciate paranoid reasoning, my great-grandfather was convinced the Russian Army was out to get him. He walked west to the ocean and took the next boat to NYC. But paranoid reasoning leads to poor health decisions.

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Gene_S
Gene_S
May 19, 2020 2:53 pm

Must watch
How Bill Gates Monopolized Global Healthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQSYdAX_9JY&t=361s

Bill Gates’ Plan to Vaccinate the Worldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7A_cMpKm6w

Bill Gates and the Population Control Gridhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igx86PoU7v8

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Ray
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Ray
May 19, 2020 4:59 pm

Why does Dr. William Thompson of the CDC,who has been promoted, & still works at the CDC, disagree with you about autism in black boys under 36 months (rhymes with Tuskegee?)… After he was taped confessing , he declared himself a “whistleblower”; (smart move), & gave the documentary proof to congressman Posey of Florida.. I think that’s the story told by “Vaxxed”. It was amazing to see & hear how that movie was attacked universally, (using the same condemnation phrases[?]) in all “news” media; without ever mentioning the subject matter of the documentary… Only possibly topped by Tavis Smiley being taken off PBS (ch.13NYC), immediatly (same week) after having Robert Kennedy Junior on, telling us about Dr. William Thompsons’ Confession, which was widely available to hear (in his own voice) via the world wide web… He sounded sincerely remorseful, to his credit…

I recommend reading the “package insert” where measles is first listed side effect of the vaccine. Great way to guarantee more sales. See: physiciansforinformedconsent.org for more…. Please post or at least comment on the legally required “package insert”(s), in future, & recommend that all consumers read all package inserts for any drugs & vaccines they may contemplate taking , unless you or their doctor, is going to take their place in the grave, or at least give them a signed written guarantee of no harm being possible… I think it’s called “due diligence” … Lastly, the Nuremberg Court, & United Nations, both say we have the right to “informed consent” (even during wartime), No one (except you) should be allowed to experiment on you, even if they claim it’s for your own good, because, of course, they know better than you what is good for you and your family, and ,of course they have never been wrong…

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May 19, 2020 5:19 pm
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P.S.: I read that the wild polio virus strains are no more. Now the thousands paralized by polio have the vaccine caused strain… Interesting that in 1948, before the first polio vaccine (which caused so much polio it was outlawed in many states), Dr. Frederick Klenner was curing polio with intravenous ascorbate, in very large doses, of course. higher than the ones being used for more than a month & 1/2 to cure covid-19 in SOUTH Korea, singapore, taiwan, & China; see: ISOM.ca for more…

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newlife4.0
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May 27, 2020 8:47 pm
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India kicked Bill Gates outta the country for what he did to hundreds of thousands, if not millions – can;t remember – for the harm he did to children with his vaccines. The government of …I think Ethiopia? Somalia? Can’t remember, and my bookmarks are so cluttered I rarely go there now. Anyway, they bragged about Gates’ Foundation vacs with injectable “chips” for ID as being so wonderful.
This is documented folks. All this and more. Google is NOT your friend. Try Brave or something. Although a lot van still be found on Google; just not what used to be there, like official docs and stuff.

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joscors
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May 19, 2020 5:35 pm
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I was a pharmaceutical chemist and them a pharmaceutical salesman and if you bothered to read the package insert of every medication you were prescribed you would never take any of them. The manufacturers are forced to list any side effects that occurred during the trials even if the odds of them occurring are infinitesimal!

Ray
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Ray
May 19, 2020 6:14 pm
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We should be, as you say “forced to” read them before swallowing. If we get the statistical probability numbers, even better. When you give millions of doses daily to teenagers, & those drugs have the rare(?), “homicidal & suicidal ideation” side-effects; even if it is only 1 in a million, you can expect as many cases as the numbers of millions of doses. So why are we surprised when that “infinitesimal” number; kill & die… Stupidity? Willful ignorance? We didn’t read the insert(?)… We make our bed, & then…

newlife4.0
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newlife4.0
May 27, 2020 8:48 pm
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Plus the ingredients…

Ray
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Ray
May 22, 2020 6:57 pm
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I guess these posts are invisible to non-M.D. “Docs”… Why do I waste my time?

charls
charls
May 19, 2020 6:29 pm

I am curious about your collective opinions. Does the press release last Friday, May 15, 2020, by Sorrento Therapeutics, Inc. (Nasdaq: SRNE, “Sorrento”) appear to be part of the ongoing COVID-19 pump and dump schemes?

“Sorrento” announced that its anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibody, STI-1499, demonstrated 100% inhibition of SARS-CoV-2 virus infection in an in vitro virus infection experiment at a very low antibody concentration.

Sorrento Therapeutics stock skyrocketed as much as 244% on Friday, within an hour of trading Friday, SRNE rose from Thursday’s closing price of $2.62 a share to $6.76 at the end of trading. There were pre-market sales on Monday of $9.90 a share. Shares plunged throughout the day to close at $6.50. Today, Tuesday, May 19, 2020 the shares drifted down to close at $5.42.

Sorrento’s market value surged from $549 million at Thursday’s close to roughly $1.9 billion at Friday’s intraday highs. Prior to the pandemic, Sorrento’s 2019 revenue increased 67% year-over-year (YOY) from $21.9MM to $31.43MM according to its most recent 10-K filing. This shows positive organic growth, but is drowned out by its $235.35 MM total debt load.

The company has been burning shareholder cash. Perhaps the CEO did one of the most effective and egregious stock pumps in a year of chronic stock pumping. Maybe the SEC is looking at them and could potentially shut down the stock for a few weeks. Takes 500 million volume to pump a stock up, but only 60 million for the bottom to fall out.

There is a possibility that Sorrento’s stand-alone therapy, (COVI-GUARD™) is a winner and Sorrento profits wildly. There is also a scenario where the press release does not hold water and the stock price declines to the $3.00 range of much of the last year.

During a CNBC interview, the CEO didn’t come off as bombastic about the discovery at all. It seemed like Sorrento, with its quiver of other potential antibodies, has a plausible approach and he feels there will likely many alternate prophylaxis and treatment protocols in the event the virus mutates to make effective vaccines elusive.

Did any of you make money on the wild SRNE ride over the weekend?

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avav1001
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May 19, 2020 8:31 pm

Good article. There is another US COVID-19 and ready vaccine development firm INOVIO, about to finish phase 1 trial and ready to start phases 2/3. It is likely to be one of a few finalists in Operation Warp Speed.

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rohtsc711
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May 19, 2020 9:24 pm

Although I have not participated in any testing (other than posting a negative for the influenza test given to me at the time), I firmly believe I have already experienced Covid-19 back in January of this year. It started with the craziest dry cough that lasted 5-weeks. I did not seek medical attention until after the third week, and was eventually coughing up blood by the end of the fourth week. The clinic gave me a flu test and prescribed the typical codeine cough syrup and albuterol inhaler. But it was not until I tripled my daily intake of garlic, ginger, and Ester-C, along with a supplement called “i26 Hyper Immune Egg” when I finally overcame this malady. I anxiously await the “finger-prick home test kit” being reviewed for EUA by the FDA, being produced by Decision Diagnostics to determine if I currently carry the IgG antibody. I suspect that I already belong to the herd, but curiously await a valid vaccine for safe measure.

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Paull
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May 20, 2020 8:05 am

A second best option compared to a vaccine is an antibody treatment. Vaccines cause the body to produce antibodies. But you can also inject antibodies themselves. There are three ways of doing it, all are in advanced development:
1) Infuse plasma from a donor who recovered from Covid-19.
2) Collect thousands of such donations, pool these donations, then extract, purify and concentrate the antibodies into what’s called a hyperimmunglobuline (or passive vaccine).
3) Produce biosynthetic antibody cocktails.

Antibody preparations derived from human plasma will always be in limited supply. Biosynthetic ones can be produced in unlimited quantities. Antibodies may work prophylactically as well as therapeutically.

In theory one could eliminate the virus with antibody preparations if these could be shówn to work. But only in theory, as one would have to “passivlely vaccinate” the world population simultaneously over a period of few days.

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May 20, 2020 8:13 am

Perhaps this article from NTD.com can shed some light on the actual death rate. Very interesting article referencing the closing of 21 million cell phones in China. I never realized how cell phones are integral in their society, more so than credit cards in our world. Although never mentioned from any other sources except fo Bloomberg without the inference of 18-21 million deaths in China.

https://www.ntd.com/the-closing-of-21-million-cell-phone-accounts-in-china-may-suggest-a-high-ccp-virus-death-toll_447579.html?fbclid=IwAR3Up2TI_lFBU094wrxU7mx-OHGrgG5QoHWdLkjHJCjMT-Aa5fvuQhBCeD8

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hullevad
May 20, 2020 8:58 am

Abivax has a ABX 464 covid-19 in phase 2b/3 with 1000 people in a blind test. If it works ok there is hope that there will be less complications in the case one fetches the virus

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David Braunstein
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May 20, 2020 11:47 am

Thank you for your research and insights. Since the virus became news I have been following it carefully. I agree that a herd resistance in the population could end this awful situation. But from my readings I learned that there are different kinds of viruses. In some viruses antibodies lead to immunity; they are one shot pony virses. Other viruses act like packs of different viruses within one virus cell. Those types of viruses don’t really mutate, but just change their clothes so to speak. That means that a virus enters the human host wearing a black dress. Then a vacine is developed to kill the black dress virus. The vacine works and kills the black dress virus, but some of the virus in the host are wearing red or blue dresses which have no antibody protection. This kind of virus needs to be broad spectrum to get all of the disguises. I don’t know which kind of virus Covid-19 is, but if it is the second type we will have this virus around for years to come and it will likely need updated vaccines like the flue shots we have today.

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reggits
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May 20, 2020 11:48 am

Overwhelming biased opinion. It would appear that you imagine yourself to be just closer to God than everybody else.

I normally appreciate your informational columns. This one severely pissed me off and makes me question your narrative in general.

Conviction does not equal true knowledge Michael. And a little bit of knowledge does not equal understanding.

Please, in the future, save your highly personal beliefs to yourself, or others will be forced to oppose you with theirs, which, by the way, are just as valuable as yours. Unless, of course, you imagine yourself to be super-enlightened like all the other sanctified, practically deified, “authorities” making decisions about people’s lives.

For goodness sake man, until you have actually held your own child both before and after a vaccine-related incident, or watched helplessly as your young son with terminal cancer withers away because the medical establishment imposes “standard of care” regulations that prohibit even terminal cases from trying novel and promising alternatives – in large part because those approaches, if one worked, would not be patentable; or worse, because the cocktail approach doesn’t lend itself to nice correlations fancied by the Phased Trial approach, so the science of big data gets too hard for simple minded medical research types. (See, I have a hard-earned PhD, and all kinds of knowledge, and I can sling mud without understanding just like you can.);

Until you have real, documented, true science, not the faked or massaged data constantly pouring out of the media;

Please keep your opinions humble and open-minded. Nobody is offended by opinion. But when that opinion becomes law, because you have power over someone else, that’s a problem… and when the pendulum comes back and knocks you over just remember how you treated a whole subset of Gumshoe readers who also have informed opinions and have come to different “total conviction” than you.

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Ray
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May 20, 2020 5:08 pm
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I do not have sufficient “total conviction”, to bet my life-savings, & loved ones live’ s on any “truth”. I am not (in the flesh) currently that perfect, or God-realized… Based on his heartfelt guilt & remorse (when he was recorded, describing it), I would guess Dr. William Thompson had “total conviction”, that he, & his fellow CDC member doctors, should have done better. Better late than never… Please inform Robert Kennedy Junior J.D., that he has been wasting his time , & his family’s name, & his Law degree, fighting to expose the truth he has found in the documented evidence… & tell Member of Congress, William Posey, that the documents, Dr. Thompson gave him do not exist… Whew; That was a close one…

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Marc Henderson
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May 21, 2020 8:41 am

I think you missed the most important point to make over vaccines DOC……regardless which vaccine we want to talk about or compare, herd vaccination was never about our safety, and it never will be. Coronavirus IS manmade, for the introduction of a FEAR campaign, which obviously the world bought through a global shutdown of everything we aspire to be, HOOK LINE AND SINKER. Ask the vaccine king, Bill Gates about his self admitting, self professing depopulation agenda and how it will be achieved through vaccines, namely a coronavirus vaccine, and microsoft’s new improved RFID chip implant patent application numbered 2020060606. Breaking that down its 2020, the year and 666, where no man woman or child can buy or sell anything without it. But if thats not enough to convince pondering inquisitive minds, just follow the money trails, which is what YOU specialize in, for the money never lies, and they all lead to an intensely corrupt WHO, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, USA government official Fauci and so on. Until you ask the right questions brother, its impossible to get the right answers, regardless your perspectives or opinions.

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jaqcol7
May 21, 2020 4:08 pm

Michael – unfortunately there are haters and wackadoodles in every segment of society, and the behavior of the current federal administration has emboldened many of them.
Pay them no mind. Your post was fine! Every investment discussion is at its core “opinion”, if not about the facts, about the impact of said facts, and we are all entitled to our own. Haters gonna hate. These days they have very little else to do.

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ronwill
May 23, 2020 7:14 am

Loved the article. Great job. I think some of the posters use more than one login name that makes it seem like more than one person is saying the same thing.

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backoffice
Irregular
May 25, 2020 10:25 pm
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Good discussion doc all of these theories about the development of vaccines becomes scary when they start believing tracing devices are going to be injected via syringe with the vaccine. To me that action of and in itself would be against democracy, and I also do not believe this capability is even here yet.

newlife4.0
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newlife4.0
May 27, 2020 9:11 pm
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Well, as to that, I haven’t been here in months, andmy password book has two UN’s, so I tried one, then the other, then both…but they’re all in consideration or whatever, ( I’ll recall as I choose which to post this under!), so Idk what’s up. But for me, at least, it;s not deliberate. Mine are all 5/27/20. Maybe none will show up, maybe the one that’s (finally, so maybe that’s it), now showing will and the others won’t. Not deliberate; my passbook wasn’t clear, and it wasn’t showing for most of my posts.
Don’t assume sock-puppetry or nefariousness. It kinda negates your premise.

reggits
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May 25, 2020 1:36 pm

Thanks for the thoughtful response Michael, much appreciated. It’s good to know you (mostly) don’t actually condone forced vaccination, and I will leave the special cases you hold dear (e.g., children in schools) to time and circumstance and trust the better angels of your nature won’t turn a blind eye to the data as nature reveals her hatred of human manipulation. I posit that it will never be the case that humans finally outsmart microbiology, and the more we run from natural processes the worse our collective lives will get. This is, of course, my opinion :). But it’s backed up by mellenia of data – the human genome is eroding at an astonishing pace and trying to make it better keeps making it worse!

So as long as you clearly articulate that you vehemently believe something but are not willing to force your belief on me (everyone’s individual liberty stops at their neighbors front door) then I can smile at what I imagine to be your error. But as soon as you indicate that you intend to enslave me in your system, because you have power and you think you know better than me, you immediately become public enemy #1. And I will stop at nothing to defend myself and my family. For the record, I would expect you to do the same.

The irony here is… we have hundreds of variations of FLU vaccines, “tested” and approved. We get new ones every year! But somehow we still have tens of thousands of deaths from FLU every year. And a whole bunch of my friends, who dutifully take the annual vaccine, still get the FLU every year! Y’all, this is crazy!

But even crazier is the idea that artificial vaccines should be normal human consumption.

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tanglewood
May 21, 2020 4:18 pm

Dr Francisco Marty of Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston has had great success with Gilead’s drug Remdesivir
https://twitter.com/FranciscoMarty_/status/1257801535666307074

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backoffice
Irregular
May 22, 2020 12:12 am

what is the Covid 19 Vaccine that has been given orphan drug status when the company claims to have developed this vaccine in 3 hours? The company is 40 years old and really has no drugs in it’s inventory?

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backoffice
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May 25, 2020 9:57 pm
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The company has always managed to have items in the pipeline but they have yet made any marketable product.

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