I heard that “stocks only go up.” Ha ha. And so does the dollar. But what if? What if we experience rapid inflation, banks get into trouble, financial markets take a steep dive… you know, the doomsday stuff. I saw mentioned somewhere that ETFs are not safe in that environment. I guess they’re implying you should buy gold and bury it in your back yard.
But here’s a slightly more grounded question: In that environment, are stocks safer than ETFs of stocks? I’m hoping to read more than just guesses… Thanks!
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Let’s call this one the “real” thread. Sorry, I accidentally posted it 3 times. The Post button didn’t seem to be working. Ha!
Stocks usually go up over long periods of time, but they have occasionally gone down for even as long as a decade. The dollar goes down over long periods of time.
As for ETFs vs. owning the underlying stocks, I would focus your worry elsewhere. In the very short term it is quite possible for either class to do worse if there’s a violent disruption in the market, but that should be very temporary — I’d be shocked if it occurred for more than a day. ETFs are maintained at NAV primarily through the mechanism of redemption — large institutions who are market makers in those ETFs can redeem the ETFs for the underlying stocks, and there is a profit incentive for them to do so if the ETF trades at a premium or discount.
I suppose it’s technically a little safer to own an asset directly rather than indirectly… but then you take on the additional risk of choosing the wrong individual stock, which is a dramatically higher risk than the risk that the ETF mechanism will be disrupted. If that’s your primary concern, you can also go with a mutual fund that’s not exchange traded, and give up that instant liquidity, since classic mutual funds always trade at their net asset value and can be redeemed only at closing prices each day so they avoid those kinds of “flash crash” moments when things get briefly out of wack.
Thanks for the informative reply! But I wasn’t talking about a flash crash. I’m talking about rapid inflation. I’ll say the nasty word that may label me: hyperinflation. No, I’m not the type to stockpile a ton of food, water, and ammunition. Just wondering about stocks vs. stock ETFs as an additional dollar hedge/safe haven besides physical gold ETFs (AAAU, PHYS, BAR, etc.)
Inflation shouldn’t make any difference for stocks vs. ETFs — the best protection from inflation is not gold, it’s investing in companies who have strong businesses and enough pricing power that they can raise their prices through inflation and not suffer much. The real loser is bonds, so the most direct protection from hyperinflation is probably shorting long-term bonds.