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shibouthomas
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shibouthomas
August 13, 2019 2:33 pm

Here how it works
1) You are made to believe that this is one of the best trading software they have ever discovered and no matter what they hold exclusive rights and in no way will sell it to the wall street even if offered a billion.
2) then they make you feel like a fool by telling you how much fortune you could have made , if you had joined a week back (around 15k-20k).
3) then they will hit an emotional chord, stating people have paid off mortgages, bought cars and island homes.
4) Then they will showcase what lifestyle they seem to be living and sort of make you fell envy about them.
5) then they will put the bait of a limited offer or a founder member offer and promise success.
6) then comes facing the reality, you pay for it, then you are forced to watch his videos, wherein he doesnt guarantee success everytime. Then it becomes a click bait to sell you more of their products along with alpha 9.
7) 90 days is what they will ensure you stick to giving you a carrot of profits, so that once the expiry is near you don’t get refund.
8) finally, you realize you lost more than you could profit and the dream of a island home takes you back to living in a rented apartment.
9) Tom gentile comes out with a new trading platform and you start to get paranoid again and then the journey continues.

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Pamela
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Pamela
August 29, 2019 10:35 am

Alpha 9 subscription, service, the A9 team and John Gentile do not provide a consistently good service. Thedeception in the advertisement is outrageous. It pulls the average person in making them think that Tom Gentile is just this good man who wants to create a legacy for himself of helping people get to a millionaire status like him by using his mastered and proven system. It has not performed at all! Not only does it not perform it has failed. Tom continues to advertise it dishonestly and keeps making buckets of money pulling people in and not caring how much of their hard earned money, savings he looses for them. I understand that there is some horrible dishonest people in the world but he is like another Bernie Madoff who not only used lies but also boasted about it. Tom putting his face out there like he is a good guy helping the average joe and he does not care what he has done to people. He encourages people with no trading experience to get into option trading telling them it is just a few clicks its so easy and the money will come in. He does not tell people they need a certain amount of trading experience to even qualify for the level of trading needed. You basically have to lie to get the qualified for option trading. The service is terrible. It does not guide you through each trade and leaves you hanging with loosing trades and huge losses and says nothing about that in his advertisements. The company cannot even update their portfolio in a timely manner. Trade alerts have been incorrect and then later in the day another alert comes out and says we gave you the incorrect information for that trade sorry for the inconveinence but here is the correct information. The trade has already been entered incorrectly. Yes that is a huge inconvenience. A9 does not even outperform just leaving your money in a Roth IRA or money market. So Tom continues to sell sell sell and boast about his money and trading success and trips to New Zealand… and leaves his subscribers in the dust with no care in the world. How does someone like Tom and Bernie live with themselves?? Mentally ill?

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Chuck Bobuck
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Chuck Bobuck
August 30, 2019 1:27 am

I watched the video all the way through…. several times he says that he doesn’t need the money…but he needs 500 people to send him $3,050.00……thats $1,525,000.00……..another lying and scamming maggot?

billharner
billharner
August 31, 2019 7:23 pm

I’ve always got my money back from ALL of these scumbags.
Simply keep written copy of the offer stating money back guarantee
then just advise your credit card company and have copies of written correspondence withing the time
frame you specifically stated you were cancelling per their money back guarantee.
The credit card company takes care of it every time in my experience.
The KEY is DOCUMENTATION

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George
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George
August 1, 2021 2:01 am
Reply to  billharner

So true. Your credit card company will resolve it for you if you have supportive documentation. Also, if you can’t get a merchant to stop monthly recurring charges, the fastest way to stop it is to call your bank and tell them you lost your card. You will be issued a new card with a new account number, and any recurring charges on the new account must be approved by the card holder. I have done it more than once. Merchants phone line is busy 24/7, they do this intentionally while they keep charging you. Just report the card as lost and game over.

christian010812
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christian010812
September 1, 2019 4:52 pm

TOM Gentiles is Definitely a scam , I got completely ripped off by investing over $15000 after believing the fantasy of becoming a millionaire in a 12 month following his Alpha 9 trading recommendations, money calendar and weekly pays, V3 trackers , crypto currency, he has so many ways to make you believe his scam , please do not be another prey if any of these investments methods were real , He would not be offering so many , Whats real is his ways of making us believe ,Im sure he does have many investments methods that work for him ,after collecting thousands in subscriptions scams , I just watched a new one called CANNABIS LOTS ,This time he shows you how you become rich buying and selling cannabis lots , He is constantly finding way to steal our money with a get rich quick scheme. LOST MOST OF MY MONEY LIKE A FOOL IN ADDITION TO $15000 in his subscriptions.

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Tim
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Tim
September 8, 2019 4:10 pm

When did you buy a membership to this

Tom Meldrum
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Tom Meldrum
September 8, 2019 6:29 pm
Reply to  Tim

Thank you for telling us to beware of Tom! Why would anyone with a credible product limit it to the first 500 people. Red flag!

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gbyrd912
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gbyrd912
January 20, 2020 2:47 pm
Reply to  Tom Meldrum

The ads are never dated. So, 500 today, 500 tomorrow, 500 the day after and so forth. Designed to make you make a quick decision without doing due diligence and research.

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George
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George
August 1, 2021 2:06 am
Reply to  Tom Meldrum

I think he just says they are limiting it to 500 people to urge you to hurry and sign up. I seriously doubt his operation is turning away subscription dollars.

Tim
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Tim
September 9, 2019 1:38 am

I like to know more about your experience with this.

Phil
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Phil
December 6, 2019 2:17 pm
Reply to  Tim

Tim, you have the Alpha-9 guarantee wrong unless it has changed since I joined. I am a charter member joined last December and my membership expires next week. I stopped investing several months ago in Alpha-9. Also, most of Tom’s recommendations cannot be filled by the time they are received because they exceed the price limit. Also the text alerts typically arrive 5 to 10 minutes later then the emails. Tom recently stated in an email that 50% were not filled but I think it’s higher than that.

Here is the Alpha-9 100% money-back guarantee that I received. “If you don’t see 250 chances to double your money in a years’s time, all you need to do is call or send a quick email to my VIP Concierge team. ” I will not receive 250 chances at 100% gain (double your money) because the daily put spreads are kept at only 80% gain. That leaves just the calls and call spreads which add up to about 5 a week or 250 a year minus days the market is closed, but also there were days where Tom had no recommendations and days where many could not be filled because they exceeded the price limit. BTW, I have asked for my money back on other programs with no problems. As always, play on paper before using real money. BTW, I disagree about complaints on Tom’s Money Calendar Pro. I am a lifetime member and have always made money, and his trades do not close in a day or week, typically a month or two or close early when meet profit goal. He usually gives out two trades on Monday Also, most of his price limits are high enough to be filled.

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Phil
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Phil
January 2, 2020 12:09 pm
Reply to  Tim

Update on Alpha-9 Trader guarantee. My one year subscription ended in December, and I was able to receive a full $2500 refund. I had to point out where the 100% money-back guarantee was meant because there were not enough opportunities to see the minimum of 250 chances to double my money over a year’s time.

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Tim
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Tim
September 8, 2019 4:01 pm

I just received the link to Alpha 9 watched all the videos. then did an internet search to see what people are saying, found you guys. So some of you have used this system and did not get results. The guarantee seems a little shabby, after one year if they do not recommend 220 trades you can ask for your money back. So all they got to do is make sure you get 220 recommendation and you do not get your money back, regardless if they win or not.
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Like to here more from you guy who bought into this program what your experience was

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Dr. Alatf
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Dr. Alatf
September 10, 2019 12:12 pm

Money is not that easy to be earned. Then there will be any poverty in the world. His ideas pull good lucrative , greedy emotions. So people pay him& then no one knows if each one has any money. All stories will be the same. But how does he create such gaming & scamming platforms & ads to attract people? There is no rule of land so people could go to court to stop him for good, if not true?

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dalerekus
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dalerekus
September 20, 2019 1:50 am

I saw this was connected to Money Map – they are antimatter to anyone’s money!!!

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Greg
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Greg
September 20, 2019 12:35 pm

total rip-off and to top it off, most recently, I’ve received what ‘appeared’ to be a newspaper article taken to look ‘ original’, along with what would also ‘appear’ to be a hand-written note…..all about subscribing to Alpha 9, and this after having joined his FFC. It’s nothing more than more ads to invest more money for more subscriptions….. that never deliver results. It’s awful

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michael
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michael
October 7, 2019 5:10 pm

This news Sucks! I was all excited as i was listing to the webinar. So not good to here, but if this is truly a scam i am so glad that i read the comments…I left home contemplating coming up with this 3000 plus bucks, the thought of being able to make this kind of money occupied my mind off and on all day

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Alan
Alan
November 2, 2019 11:07 pm

I have only just joined v3 and a9. Have just changed my broker so will start trading these services in the next few days. Now that i have read all of your comments i am a little concerned but i can’t help to say that perhaps you people have entered these services with the wrong idea. Yes Tom says that you don’t need to know anything about trading options to be successful with his services and that is a bit of a lie. Trading options is nothing like trading stocks You dont just make a trade on a stock and walk away because a stock is a buy and hold. You need to always stay close to your trades with options to ensure you don’t suffer heavy losses behind your back. In fairness Tom offers heaps of training through his videos and weekly webinars. On top of that you get daily videos on the why’s he is taking a trade as well as why to get out. With all this information it is then up to you whether or not to make the trade. Like i said i have yet to make a real trade yet but with the few paper trades it all seems not bad. In saying that i have not seen any triple growth results but i have not seen any massive losses either. Option trading is a tough gig if you don’t know what your doing but i beleive that Tom is giving enough tools to get you going. I don’t think i will be a millionaire using his services, far from it, but there are heaps and heaps of other services that claim to make you a millionaire as well. I think if you use your brain and concentrate on every option trade you make you will get better at choosing which trades to take from his recommendations. Take a good look at the rubbish that’s out there and you’ll quickly find that Toms services are reasonably cheap given the amount of picks you get per week. Take a look at Oxford Club for instance. You pay a huge amount to join and then extra for special reports and 2 picks per month. Have you noticed that every single guru claims they where super successful hedge fund managers on Wall St and the only ones to have picked the FAANG before they got started. All born in the same trash can. Not just Tom… Good trading everyone

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Leonard
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Leonard
November 4, 2019 5:57 pm

I have a poor experience with Tom Gentile. Money Calendar Pro and weekly options service. Both services oversell potential profits, use testimonials to get you in and do not perform according to the advertising. The weekly options are especially poor as you only have 2 or 3 days to profit or they expire each Friday afternoon. Losses are stressful and the cost to subscribe very high.

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george manter
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george manter
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george manter
November 15, 2019 10:39 pm

I wonder if you took all recommendations and used a debit credit spread and purchased a stop loss order on the downside to protect against any major loss on the downside; If you use on line trading services all trades are free! So you save on the trading commissions. remember you are selling the option and picking up the spread upfront. Anyway look at you past trades and see if you used a debit credit spread if that would have worked? I would love to know.

Paul
Paul
November 20, 2019 4:21 pm
Reply to  george manter

I think you mean Credit Spread. That is when you sell the vertical spread. A debit spread is when you buy the vertical spread. A debit spread does not require a maintenance deposit and you buy it out of the money in hopes of selling it at a higher price when it moves closer to or into the money. I like credit spreads far enough out of the money so they are almost certain to expire worthless.

throne
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throne
August 28, 2020 12:12 am
Reply to  george manter

what the hell is a debit credit spread i think your confused on your terminology bud your stating the exact opposite directions and calling it a spread. its either a debit spread or a credit spread using both would be called something else depending on the strike price

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money tree
money tree
November 23, 2019 2:53 am

Thanks Travis for making these threads available online. This is so valuable. such a gift to have truth on the internet.

Sadly, even after seeing the terrible results at money map press with Tom Gentile, my crazy mind has been wanting to try alpha-9 because their advertising is so convincing- it makes it sound like they have “cracked the code.” And I know better!!!- Because I tried one of Tom Gentiles services in 2015-16 when i was scoping out investment advice on the internet.

I know this: If any of their ads were true, and their trading platform worked that good, everyone working there would quickly become the richest people on earth. It’s just math. If you take $10k and double it every month… you would have 41 million dollars in one year.
These guys definitely would not work if their trading platforms worked, they would just make money.
But they advertise like they can really do that! They say it so convincingly! SEC should shut them down.

Here is my story: They gave me Ninety days to change services if I didn’t like the one I chose, and they did honor that. So I got to try three different services. And unbelievably, they ALL lost money. There was no magic. No big success rate. Just win one and then lose one. And then they say: “We gave you the opportunity to double your money three times last month!” But they also lost 50% – 100% six times as well. Rinse and repeat.

Fortunately, I just dabbled to check it out, and usually didn’t trade, often waited after the rec, to watch and see. (I do almost all my investing like Travis’s philosophy- – find good companies, at fair value (or amazing growth potential) buy them and hold them until something changes for the worse. . . and also I like to do a few out-of-favor plays/options)

So first was Money Calendar Alert. To be fair, I think Tom Gentile really does like trying to teach people about options, how they work, why he loves them, different ways to use them. But with all the trades I saw, he was losing money on average. During my view he barely made any profit at all, vastly underperforming the market.

Next: Weekly Cash clock- I “rolled-over” my subscription into this service. Look, the SEC should shut them down. I saw them lie about: I told you to get in this trade for $1.35 an option , and now its at $2.00. Well there was never a seller on the books at 1.35. I was a broker in ’93, ’94 and I’m telling you, they lied about results and they actually lost money over all. Also, oddly, very strange :::on the market, there were never any trades!!! on the options he was recommending. No volume! There would usually be no volume on the very options he recommended. How could this be if there are hundreds or thousands of subscribers. I don’t get that part. I kept records. I’m super skeptical (thank goodness cause it would have cost me a ton.)

So I “rolled over” to the Energy Inner Circle. I kept records. I printed all the advice, and then went back a year later and kept score. It is so awful I don’t know how anyone could be so wrong. Almost every singe stock pick is down down down. If Kent Moores is such and expert, he should know what’s coming! He claimed to. Over and Over. PQUE went from rec at $3.76 to $0.23. AXAS- flat, BBG – down 30%, CRK flat, MCF- rec at $7.89, half year later $4.34. I’m not kidding. He lost on 90% of his picks. I have it all printed in front of me as I type. These guys are a disaster. I feel so lucky I didn’t trust them, but I’m out my subscription money. Kent Moores has dedicated his life to energy policy, but that just has not helped him understand the stock market or how crazy macro economics can be. His investment advice is terrible.

Tom Gentile, & Chris Johnson & Kent Moores- they have no magic formula. Don’t do it. They are just win-one-lose-one, & talk a lot about the winner.
If they could lose 3 trades at 100%, and then make a 1000% up trade , that would be a great 700%. But they are not.
If they actually figure something out, I think we’ll hear about it on the news. Waste of money, Waste of time.

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Juan Franco
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Juan Franco
February 6, 2020 9:44 pm

I just started looking at the Alpha 9 trader today. I was truly excited at the sales pitch. Then I read the disclaimer and it was an eye opener. It pretty much reads that all their figures are theories and hind sight numbers only. Later I decided to look at other opinions on the web and found several papers which based on the wording appear to be produced by Alpha 9 trader and the final point is a call to action to get you back to the Alpha 9 trader.

I am glad I found this page as it has more realistic and useful information. I had already transferred money to cover my membership but for now I will continue with my real estate investing instead until I get more educated on the trading or stocks and options which is a new language for me.

Respectfully,
J. Franco
Next Level

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Cats Hit
Cats Hit
February 29, 2020 3:13 am

Like any Investment, due diligence s/b at the forefront of any trading decision! I’ve been a member of MMP(Money Map Press) since Tom Gentile’s origination of Money Calendar eventually renamed Money Calendar Pro! I have easily made back my investment of about 9k and easily cleared 100k, and still going strong. The first 2 years I struggled, actually loosing about 9k after being up 24k, why? POOR MONEY management and LITTLE due diligence! I have most MMP services, including A9, V3, MCP, WCC, FFC, as well as access to 5 other analyst’s recommendations. Like anything in life that is worth doing, it must be done well, which includes due diligence! This is not a read the email listen to the video newsletter, make money, you have to screen the trade yourself. I record in writing on Excel spreadsheet every trade all the Analyst make, and sometimes watch them, or if I see something I like, I buy. I’ve been known to double and even triple down on Apple, Netflix, and others that seem to be lucrative. Ill even wait to buy in until the expiration week, but I dont recommend this unless understand time decay. Im not trying to sell anyone on MMP or Tom Gentile, his service if you provide due diligence, manage your winnings, these services will pay off. You must understand money management as well! I have 4 accounts I trade out of: a $500, a $1000, a purely speculative $5000 max, and a strict double down account that had reached 84k, it currently sits at 37k. If I didnt hesitate on Corona Virus recommendation RCL (Royal Cruise Line) Id be back over 100k. In this case due diligence worked against me! Then again the $120k car Im eyeing, I may have wrapped it around a tree and be back to square one! You never know what life trades us for, so trade the markets with due diligence! MS

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April 5, 2020 9:01 pm
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Cats I too subscribe to many different publications from Money Map. I’ve found that many of their newsle

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Tony G
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Tony G
August 31, 2020 12:46 am

Iā€™m glad I found you guys. I almost bought into it. Thanks! Just saved a couple of gā€™s.

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