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“This Tiny, Unknown Biotech is About to Unleash Its ‘Holy Grail’ Drug”

Biotech Supertrader teases that "This May be the Most Radical Advance in Medicine in the Last 100 Years"

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, January 8, 2014

Robert Morris is helming a biotech-focused stock newsletter that’s called Biotech Supertrader (modesty has no place in the world of newsletter promotions, of course), and I’ve never covered this letter before so I thought I ought to have a look at the latest teaser we’ve been asked about.

Morris, incidentally, has been featured in our pages before — but that was back when he was editor of China Stock Insider at the same publisher. That letter, like almost all China-focused investment newsletters, seems to have disappeared quietly into that good night … which probably tells you that it’s time to invest in China again, since the newsletter publishers are ignoring the Middle Kingdom and rushing out their pitches about biotech and tech stocks. At the time, Morris was teasing NQ Mobile (NQ), which has turned out to be pretty good if you bought it down there in the $6-8 neighborhood (though it’s been a wild ride).

So now what’s he pitching for his Biotech Supertrader?

Well, the destruction of “Man’s deadliest disease”, of course. Here’s how the teaser gets our attention:

“This Tiny, Unknown Biotech is About to Unleash Its ‘Holy Grail’ Drug on Man’s Deadliest Disease

“Their ‘Guided Missile Approach’ Could Save Thousands of Lives Each Year

“It’s about to become the most talked about advancement in cancer treatment in our lifetimes and you can lock in a life-transforming fortune if you act quickly….

“I’m urging my subscribers to load up on this stock NOW….

“I’ve just uncovered a tiny, unknown biotechnology company with a new cancer drug in phase 3 clinical trials which is showing remarkable success at treating several types of cancer.

“Their scientists have found an innovative approach to cancer care which involves a breakthrough in treatment. It goes deep inside the inner workings of our cells.

“Plus, this medicine looks to be many times more effective and with fewer side effects than the chemo, radiation, and drug therapies currently available.”

If there’s one thing that investors know can make them rich and make them feel good about themselves and the world, it’s a cure for cancer — we’ve seen that effective cancer treatments can and do (occasionally) turn little biotech stocks into gigantic successes, so the dream lives on that you’re going to catch one of these lottery tickets and own the next Genentech. Will we be so lucky? Well, let’s see which one he’s pitching:

“When this drug wins FDA approval – which I believe it will – this small company’s $4.16 stock price will go straight to the moon.

“And the market for this drug is absolutely huge!

“You see, this small biotech is targeting its new drug, let’s call it ‘drug S’, at cancers of the blood and bone marrow. And it is already in very promising phase 3 trials for these two types of cancer.

“But here’s where it gets really interesting. It looks like the drug this company is developing will also work on other types of cancer!

“There are positive signs it works on Non-Small Cell Lung Cancer (NSCLC) too. There are 1.1 million people with this type of malignancy. Just in the United States alone there are over 300,000 patients with this disease according to The American Cancer Society. Each desperate for a cure.

“Plus it looks like ‘drug S’ may turn out to be an effective treatment for ovarian Cancer. There are more than 204,000 new cases of ovarian cancer diagnosed worldwide each year with 22,280 of these in the United States according to the National Cancer Institute estimates.”

So … who is it? Thinkolator sez this is Cyclacel Pharmaceuticals (CYCC)

Cyclacel is indeed a little biotech around $4 (it closed at $4.35 yesterday), with a market capitalization of only about $80 million — so be careful, we’re a big enough group here that if just a small percentage of Stock Gumshoe readers got enthused about this stock it could drive the shares up, less than a million dollars worth of shares trade each day (Biotech Supertrader says they limited their readership to 750 people — I don’t know if that’s still their cap or if they’ve hit it, but we’ll have more folks than that reading this free article).

And like many biotech stocks, it’s got some impressive scientists and it’s been losing money for a long time as they’ve been searching for a viable drug (their current lead drug also was a big focus of theirs back when it was in Phase 1 trials five or more years ago, so that’s a good reminder of the time these things take, it’s just starting Phase 3 trials now). It looks like they must have gone public in 2004, when they were about eight years old, and a quick scan of ten years of their financials over at Morningstar indicates that they’ve never generated more than a token amount of revenue (meaning, they’ve probably had some research collaboration payments or partnership funding, but never got a product to market), and have accumulated more than $250 million in losses to date. And had two reverse splits to keep the price from sinking far into penny territory.

So that’s not unusual, but it means that — as with all developmental-stage biotechs — it’s not about the financials or the fundamentals, it’s about what’s going to happen in their clinical trials and whether things are going well enough that they can continue to finance the trials … which get much more expensive as you progress through Phase 2 and Phase 3.

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All I know about them so far is that they say they’ve got enough cash to get through enrollment in their key Phase 3 study for “drug S” (which is sapacitabine) as of September when they last updated their investor presentation, but I know nothing about the science or the competing cancer drugs that are out there or how fabulous this particular one might be, so I asked our favorite medical writer, Doc Gumshoe (who, yes, is not a doctor) to check them out quickly and chime in. Here’s what he could share after looking into them for a few minutes (he’s just looking at the medical stuff, not so much the “investor presentations”):

    Cyclacel’s Prospects

    Cyclacel has three drugs in development at this time, and is involved in eight clinical trials with these drugs, not including two clinical trials that have been terminated. Their top contender is sapacitabine which targets the division of cancer cells. If you can prevent cancer cells from dividing and reproducing, you have the cancer whipped, so targeting cancer cell division (or mitosis, which is the technical term) is a highly promising avenue for treating cancer. However, we need to take note of the fact that sapacitabine is one of a large number of drugs that propose to fight cancer by this method.

    At present, all eight of Cyclacel’s clinical trials involve sapacitabine. Of these, at least one has been completed – a Phase 1 study of the safety and pharmacology of the drug. Four others are current, with no information about results. These are likely Phase 1 or small Phase 2 studies, to assess safety, determine what a correct dose might be, and evaluate whether the drug does what it’s supposed to do in human subjects with the target diseases, which in this case include acute myeloid leukemia (AML), cutaneous T-cell lymphoma, and some advanced solid tumors. Prior to the clinical trials, sapacitabine has demonstrated impressive results in delaying the spread of metastatic liver cancers in mice.

    From what I can gather from public sources (i.e., the NIH Clinical Trials Registry), there is one Phase 3 trial, which started recruiting patients in February of 2013 and is expected to be completed in late 2015. The trial is in elderly patients with AML, and compares alternating cycles of sapacitabine and decitabine with decitabine alone. Decitabine (Dacogen) is FDA-approved for treating AML and also targets cancer cells’ replication by attacking their DNA.

    It is possible that the Phase 3 trial by itself could lead to FDA approval for sapacitabine, depending on the strength of the results. However, that trial would not get the drug approved for use as monotherapy, since it is not being investigated as monotherapy. My guess is that Cyclacel is planning more trials of sapacitabine as monotherapy, perhaps in younger patients. And my further guess is that FDA approval is still quite a long way off.

    Sapacitabine is also in a Phase 3 trial with cyclophosphamide and rituximab for the treatment of relapsed chronic lymphocytic leukemia. Cyclophosphamide (marketed under several trade names) is a well-established chemotherapy agent used in a number of cancers, and has led to remission in many cases; however, it is associated with truly harrowing adverse effects. Rituximab (Rituxan, Genentech) is used not only in cancers but in some autoimmune diseases. And sapacitabine is also being studied in patients with previously-treated non-small-cell lung cancers.

    Although the piece from Biotech Supertrader said that the drug – identified as “drug S” –is also a promising treatment for ovarian cancer, I find no clue that it is being studied in such patients. [ed note: that’s because that “promise” is in the lab still, not in people — they had a press release about this in the Fall, “75% of Ovarian Cancer Patient Samples Highly Sensitive to Sapacitabine”, not studied in patients but on patient samples]

    Cyclacel has two other drugs in development: selicilib and a drug designated as CYC116. One selicilib study has been terminated, and in a second Phase 1 study, selicilib is used with sapacitabine in patients with advanced solid tumors. Remember, however, that Phase 1 studies are many rungs of the ladder below what’s needed to gain FDA approval.

    CYC116 is an aurora kinase inhibitor, meaning that it blocks the action of an intracellular enzyme that facilitates cancer cell mitosis. This is a promising avenue of cancer treatment, however, the traffic on this avenue is fairly heavy, and includes several other classes of drugs including tyrosine kinase inhibitors, and taxol based agents such as paclitaxel (Taxol, Bristol Myers Squibb); docetaxel (Taxotere, Sanofi-Aventis), Abraxane (a newer formulation of paclitaxel from Celgene) and others.

    CYC116 supposedly also inhibits vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF), which induces the growth of blood vessels that nourish cancer cells. Inhibiting VEGF is a well-established means of combating cancer, and CYC116 could hardly be characterized as a radically new departure in cancer treatment.

    The one trial involving this agent has been terminated. That, of course, does not mean that development of CYC116 stops dead in its tracks – there are many reasons why a trial can be terminated, and ours is not to speculate without more information.

    Beyond those three drugs, it’s hard to guess what Cyclacel may have up its corporate sleeve. It is certainly true that a successful cancer drug – even if only moderately successful– can be transformational for the biotech that develops the drug. But the drugs that Cyclacel has under development do not appear to this skeptical observer to be radically new departures in cancer treatment.

    It’s important to remember, when trying to estimate the likelihood of a single drug demonstrating sufficient efficacy and safety to gain FDA approval and market share, that the competitive field is vast. As I mentioned earlier, Cyclacel has a total of 8 clinical trials in process at this time.

    For the sake of perspective, it’s worth knowing that at present there are 41,445 cancer trials being conducted. So those are the odds.

So there you have it — it’s almost impossible to find a development-stage biotech whose financials look great or that makes your heart go pit-a-pat over their valuation, especially in a biotech bull market like we’ve seen over the past year or so, and Cyclacel doesn’t jump out as spectacular on that front either, not unless you’re a big believer in the promise of their specific drug. They’re a small stock and they don’t get much attention, other than from the analysts who probably helped them sell shares in secondary offerings in recent years, and there aren’t any major “skin in the game” insiders as far as I can tell (the CEO owns $1 million worth of shares, but he gets paid more than that every year), and there’s only one really focused owner on the institutional side that seems to have any kind of biotech focus (Eastern Capital owns about 7% of the shares, roughly $5 million worth … don’t know much about them).

So I don’t see a lot to make them stand out other than Robert Morris’ apparent enthusiasm for the shares (which certainly goes over the top, he calls his special report “The End of Cancer Worries Forever“), and I don’t know enough about the science to be a believer (though, to be fair, I almost never speculate on developmental biotechs because they’re so hit-driven and I’m not smart enough to be a hit-picker in the sector). It is at least encouraging that they are enrolling patients for Phase 3, and that they probably won’t have to raise more money before they have some indication of how the trial is going, but sometime in the next year or two they’re probably going to have to either get good results from this trial that let them raise cash at a good price, or have promising enough results that some big pharma company wants to jump in and help fund development of “drug S” (or just buy up the whole company, as happens with some regularity when a little biotech gets promising results).

Oh, and they are presenting at an investor conference next week, so maybe they’ll have something interesting to share then. As you can tell, this one doesn’t jump into my cup of tea … but these kinds of stocks almost never do. Sound interesting to you? Interested in the science or the lottery-ticket possibilities of $80-million developmental biotechs? Have any experience with Robert Morris or know whether or not we should consider him a biotech savant? Let us know with a comment below.

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bwd1up
bwd1up
March 7, 2014 1:23 pm

Greenfire, I’m not following her, it was an email trying to get me to follow her, so thanks for confirming my decison not to follow her!

I don’t know how many subscribers she has, but maybe this could “pump” INO a little for those who are in it. I’m going to check this thread to see what the thoughts are by Dr. KSS, Subra and all the great minds on this thread to determine if I want to take a position.

Thank you to Travis for this site, and ALL of you wonderful folks who are contributing – I am amazed by the collective brain power here, WOW!

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karmaswimswami
March 7, 2014 5:34 pm

Via the Helix and others: I am behind on posts here. Regarding PTN, bremelanotide is a short peptide with unusual cyclic structure because of an unexpected amino acid sidechain hookup. It must be given subcutaneously because of this. I see that as no real barrier except for maybe the first shot. People are uneasy about that and then realize that the needle is the size of a bee stinger and that it doesn’t hurt. It’s the same thing with getting type II diabetics onto insulin….they are needle-averse til they try it, and then marvel at how silly they were for being needle-averse.

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March 7, 2014 5:55 pm
Reply to  karmaswimswami

Thanks!
Just asked the little lady and she said yeah she’d do it too! I guess that makes me the only whimp who is needle-adverse.

karmaswimswami
March 7, 2014 6:35 pm

Nick: Thanks for posting that about Regulus. But I regard it as a waste of shareholder money. Santaris’s miraversen already goes after the same microRNA target and has efficacy. All well and good on making it oral, but it won’t work as monotherapy and will have to be trialled to the tune of billions, by which time other companies will be in insurmountable control of HCV.

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Nick Semuta
March 7, 2014 8:42 pm
Reply to  karmaswimswami

I would think that makes Benny still look very undervalued to say the least.

karmaswimswami
March 7, 2014 8:49 pm

Does anybody out there have thoughts on the biotech sector? In general? A lot of money has come out of it recently. The moving average lines on the NASDAQ Biotech Index have crossed, with the shorter trend line below the longer trend line. All of the recent HCV news, Regulus, AbbVie’s plan to submit, BMS’s plan to move ahead with daclatasvir/asuneprevir, the Biotron fracas in Australia, all took a lot out of Gilead today. Which makes it a buy. GILD has new data from just this week that three of its drugs in combo accomplish SVR in HCV in only 6 weeks in 96 per cent of patients! GILD rules! They control this for now.

The number of biotech IPO’s this year and the steep run-up late last year make me wonder if there is frothiness, if a minor top is in. Not that there won’t still be room for good companies to run, but there may not be this rising tide lifts all boats going on.

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newby3867
newby3867
March 7, 2014 9:11 pm
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Doctor Kss I intend to think that The Biotech Market maybe be getting into a bubble range like internet stocks did years ago.I think there probably is a mild correction looming with only the real company’s with the goods shining through.I hope I am wrong but this has been some run in the Biotech’s.

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Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
March 7, 2014 9:06 pm

For what its worth: Id offer this (in general). Obamacare will kill this markets’ rush. If its anything like the UK’s NHS, the emphasis will be on treating the many….not in selling the few a $100,000 pill. Companies will have to cut their waste/wages to stand a chance of being prescribable under the system. So the big pharma will rule by buying out/funding the promising treatments. Th rest will die for the lack of funding before they reach FDA approval.

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arch1
March 8, 2014 12:07 am
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Alan; Welldone! Wellsaid! I n few words you have stated what I tried to convey, not well, in many. 100% agree. Does that make you nervous?

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manymanyhaha
manymanyhaha
March 9, 2014 9:09 pm
Reply to  Alan Harris

The NHS is the only truly socialized healthcare system in an industrialized country. Literally, the government owns the hospitals, pays the doctors, etc.

Obamacare requires people to buy into a market based system.

Any comparison between the two is futile. Sorry.

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Alan Harris
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March 10, 2014 6:48 am
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In as far as it goes, you are probably correct…..at least on day one. But Obamacare and NHS share a fundimental. They collect and control a huge contribution pot, so they WILL have a huge effect on what is ‘affordable’ treatment. As I understand it (and I probably dont) your insurance companies give you just so many shots on goal….then they stop paying. The NHS treats you for life….come what may. But they can only do this by spreading the money thinly and only using the proven (and cheap) drugs. Who knows how Obamacare will evolve.

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om
om
March 7, 2014 10:01 pm

Dr KSS,
Do you suggest any Stem cell stocks.
There are many but i love to hear from you 🙂
Thanks again.

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newby3867
newby3867
March 7, 2014 10:16 pm
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OM take a look at post 330.The good doctor posted on Stem Cell stocks there.Cheers,Glenn

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om
om
March 7, 2014 11:01 pm
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Thanks Glenn.

Ogle
Ogle
March 7, 2014 10:45 pm

To Dr. KSS. Dr. would you kindly look at my post #1140 and respond? Thanks.
As for the pullback in biotech the last three days, I look at it as a normal correction to get the excess momentum out of the sector. It will give us another buying opportunity as the prices pull back to reasonable levels. The weakest stocks will get hit the hardest and the stronger will hold up much better. Remember that prices always drop down seeking more buyers and will continue down until they find them. Todays’ sellers are just buyers who have switched to sellers to lock in their profits but the next wave of buyers is down there just waiting on price to pull back to their level ( like my 1.66 and 1.35 on BNIKF) and some of the sellers will again become buyers. If these bio stocks were mature companies, I would have been a seller in many of them last week. However, with the effect that news, articles, and FDA announcements have in causing instant spikes in price, it makes no sense to swing trade these positions, but rather to wait on the home run or the strikeout. Most of these stocks are Lotto tickets. You hold the ticket until the drawing and then either collect or tear up the ticket. Sounds cold and it is…..a cold speculation supported by the best information and judgment we can muster to try to avoid the poor candidates and that is where the SG and all the contributors all help each other to win this game. Don’t bet the farm but keep some capital ready for other positions.

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Nick Semuta
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March 7, 2014 11:59 pm
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Walter, I always enjoy your posts. Thanks. I believe the instant spike may be soon if they release a first dose news announcement for TT-034…mid march is basically end of next week. BNIKF longs can only hope.

Lou L
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Lou L
March 7, 2014 11:03 pm
arch1
March 8, 2014 2:32 am
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Lou; Henry Kissinger said “the best aphrodisiac is wealth & power” & he certainly seemed to have a way with the young babes. I have heard it said that the organ which brings the best aphrodisiac response in women is the ear & in men is the eye, at least somewhat true I think. There are some things machines will not displace humans in doing,, no?

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Tim Graber
Tim Graber
March 8, 2014 3:10 am

Several people have recently asked about PPHM which has had a good run recently. Dr. Karma commented on the company in Post #251. Here is a link to the Company’s Management discussion of this past quarter’s results –
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2075263-peregrine-pharmaceuticals-management-discusses-q3-2014-results-earnings-call-transcript
Although this is a local company, I have no inside knowledge, and am a layman to the biotech world. (I also lost money in my original investment in PPHM held from 2007 to 2011.) I purchased 500 shares based on Dr Karma’s comments. It seems like they are much further along in the process of determining if their approach has legs, based on what I can understand from the presentation.

karmaswimswami
March 8, 2014 9:15 am

I wonder if the tiny Canadian company Theratechnologies (THERF) warrants consideration? Yesterday at an HIV/HCV meeting, it presented results from a study of its FDA-approved drug tesamorelin. This drug is an injectable peptide that acts as a growth hormone releasing factor. The drug’s approved indication is to reduce belly fat in HIV patients, who often get rather potbellied as a consequence of metabolic derangements from HIV and ART.

In a study done at Mass General, tesamorelin was shown to reduce liver fat in these patients by 42 per cent. That is rather amazing, though I believe the data. And yet this company is only 27 million in market cap. A company with an approved drug but nanocap in status is not likely to remain nanocap. The drug’s approved status is not new, but it is a relatively unknown drug.

What I am wondering and trying to get data on is whether this agent could be used in just ordinary patients with belly fat and/or NASH. I am sure some MD’s may try to use it that way, though benefit is not proven. But I wonder about the drug’s costs and safety. It has been shown quite safe in HIV patients.

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Mark McIntyre
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March 9, 2014 5:14 pm
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Mark McIntyre
Mark McIntyre
March 9, 2014 5:24 pm
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From Pharmacists letter February 2011 hope this helps some
You’ll hear about Egrifta (eh-GRIF-tuh, tesamorelin), the first drug to treat abdominal fat deposits caused by HIV meds.
This lipodystrophy can be distressing to patients…decrease adherence to HIV meds…and might increase cardiovascular risk.
Egrifta is a human growth hormone releasing factor that’s injected subcutaneously once daily.
It isn’t a weight loss drug…it just helps redistribute fat and decreases waist size by about one inch.
It’s hoped that less abdominal fat and the potential for improved lipids will decrease cardiovascular risk…but this hasn’t been proven.
Egrifta and human growth hormone actually INCREASE the risk of developing glucose intolerance and diabetes…and might increase the risk of cancer.
Plus Egrifta is expected to cost around $25,000/year.
Tell patients to try diet and exercise first for lipodystrophy.
Explain that Egrifta doesn’t result in big waistline changes or help fatty deposits elsewhere…and the abdominal fat comes back if the drug is stopped.

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karmaswimswami
March 8, 2014 9:53 am

To Tim Graber: Thanks for posting about Peregrine Pharma.

It is a play on anti-phosphatidylserine antibodies. I wish there was an easy way to present graphics here. Every cell is surrounded by a membrane, and the membrane has exceptional properties. It consists of inner and outer leaflets, and behaves like a two-dimensional fluid. It is made up of phospholipids, molecules that have polar/water soluble heads and long carbon chain tails that are water-insoluble. The tails reside in the hydrophobic interior of the membrane.

Normally there is membrane asymmetry, with more negatively charged phospholipids being on the interior leaflet of the membrane, such as phosphatidylserine. In some cancers, PS gets translocated to the outer leaflet in the vasculature feeding the cancer. It IS a way of going after malignant (versus nonmalignant) cells, Whether it will actually work for targeting those cells for killing is another matter. My instinctive gut feeling is that these may fail in phase III. It is a well-run company, I think it is an exciting idea, and one for which Peregrine does not have competition, but it fact what often happens when PS gets flipped to the outer leaflet is that thrombosis occurs, as is widely a problem in tumors. I am very concerned that derangements in coagulation, since external-leaflet PS is so intimately involved in clotting, may hamper bavituximab.

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Tim G.
Tim G.
March 8, 2014 12:49 pm
Reply to  karmaswimswami

Thanks very much for your comments on Peregrine, PPHM. Clear and concise, as usual.

I should have pointed out in my post that you had reservations in your earlier response on their approach. (And just as an aside – I loved your reference to THE WEST WING TV show in your earlier reply. Your ability to weave popular culture with complex scientific terminology really adds to this thread.)

As has been covered earlier, there are stocks to trade and stocks to hold. Although I am not a trader by nature, I’ll approach PPHM as a trading stock. The trick is having the disciple to sell when the hype is in full swing.

Thanks again!

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karmaswimswami
March 8, 2014 11:00 am

To Walter Ogle: Yes. I am behind on posts in this thread. But I would be thrilled and happy to come and speak. Thanks for asking. That could really be fun for everybody. I would be delighted.

Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
March 8, 2014 11:17 am
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Bet thats put a smile on you face Walter.
Kss, can you come round to my place after and swab my deck ? 🙂

Leo S
Leo S
March 8, 2014 11:26 am
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Walter: Do you folks take out of state members?

Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
March 8, 2014 11:34 am
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Better still Walter, can you video it for everyone pls.

Randy Trier
March 8, 2014 11:50 am

To All: I have signed up for the OBR Roundup discussion event at the City of Hope. The topic is the future of gene therapy. I signed up because i saw that Louis Breton of Calimmune was one of the speakers. Also there is time for Q&A and networking noted in the schedule. For me,and others here who live relatively close, this is a great opportunity to ask some investment related questions.
1-Is trial going as hoped?
2-Why Calimmune did not follow through with previously planned IPO
3-What is time line for a Calimmune IPO
4-Does Calimmune have sufficient funding and if not would they be open to Venture Capitol investment from “The Gumshoe Biotech Investment Fund” TGBIF.
-Only half kidding about question 4-

For me to pose 2 or 3 spot on questions and look the man in the eye ,and study his body language, will be of great value.
I would appreciate help from our great community here to ask the right or appropriate questions. Maybe i am being naive as to this having any value to us? At least hearing the latest from Breton should be beneficial. Here is the link-
http://www.oxbridgebiotech.com/events/gene-therapy-risky-business/

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ScorpioRising
ScorpioRising
March 9, 2014 12:28 am
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It would be great if KSS could go to this event and report back on what he hears. If he wants to go on us, are there any takers willing to foot the bill for him? I’m in for $200.

jamespaul108
jamespaul108
March 9, 2014 10:39 am
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Me too.

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KennyG
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KennyG
March 9, 2014 11:04 am
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Count me in.

Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
March 9, 2014 12:12 pm
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A few more and we can employ the gezzer !!!

Randy Trier
March 9, 2014 12:19 pm
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I’m in as well!

Ken Meyer
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Ken Meyer
March 9, 2014 5:28 pm
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Where do I mail my check?

newby3867
newby3867
March 9, 2014 9:21 pm
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Count me in as well for our good Doctor!

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ScorpioRising
ScorpioRising
March 11, 2014 12:40 pm
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Maybe we can get Travis to organize any payments, since gumshoe is already set up for that sort of thing. First, does the good Dr KSS have the time and desire to go, what’s the ROM (I’m guessing 1200 or so for air, travel to/from airport, food, and lodging for 1 night), and can Travis arrange payment?

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karmaswimswami
March 8, 2014 11:59 am

Randy Trier: Good on you for participating. I would specifically ask about the lentiviral vector that they have devised that has, in its DNA, (a) shRNA to silence CCR5 expression and (b) an HIV fusion inhibitor gene. This vector is a gutted, non-pathogenic HIV variant, with enough “genomic space” for both sequences.

When will phase I with this begin?

Also, patients that got ddRNAi with antiCCR5 shRNA…how are they now? Are they all still on ART? Any dose reductions?

My feeling is that for their treated patients there may still be a problem with reservoir/sanctuary in mononuclear cells such as macrophages. In addition to other reservoirs such as testes. Do they foresee the reservoir problem as something that will be efficacy-limiting?

Also, do they view Sangamo as a threat? How do they reckon the efficacy of SGMO’s method versus theirs?

How does one get in on this discussion? Does one have to subscribe?

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Randy Trier
March 8, 2014 12:29 pm
Reply to  karmaswimswami

Yes i had to subscribe. No fee however. Once subscribed then able to sign up for event. There is also a related event in London March 19th.
Doc-Thanks for your help. I will do my best but i suspect someone in our community also lives fairly close who would have infinite more ability to pose the pertinent questions you have provided. As well as understand his answers. Better yet would love to be the recipient of a Karma/Breton information overload. Here is the website to subscribe-http://www.oxbridgebiotech.com/
I only joined to attend this event!

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Alan Harris
March 8, 2014 12:40 pm
Reply to  Randy Trier

Hi Randy….any clues where in London UK? I live there and could try to attend. Im even more clueless than you claim to be, and I doubt he’ll have time for more than a couple of questions from one individual….but if we collaborate, that makes 4 questions/answers.

Randy Trier
March 8, 2014 12:56 pm
Reply to  Alan Harris

Hi Alan. First of all thanks for the entertainment and help you have provided. Here is a copy of the event from Home page of Oxbridgebiotech.com –
Wednesday, 19th March 2014 @ 7:00pm
GENE THERAPY: INVESTMENT HOTSPOT OR AGEING NOVELTY?

New Hunt’s House Lecture Theatre 2, Guy’s Campus, King’s College London, 18 Newcomen Street, London SE1 1UL, UK
– See more at: http://www.oxbridgebiotech.com/#sthash.dp3ZLPbx.dpuf

Randy Trier
March 8, 2014 1:12 pm
Reply to  Randy Trier

Apologies Alan- Looked closer at this event and Breton is not there-Sorry

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Alan Harris
March 8, 2014 1:24 pm
Reply to  Randy Trier

Hey ho…next time. Thanx

Dan
Dan
March 8, 2014 12:19 pm

Dr KSS,
With all the gyrations in biotech stock prices often based on inaccurate information, including Benitec, I don’t think I’m alone in wishing that you had an official position with Benitec as maybe a Public Relations or Human Relations designee? As you pointed out, even the recent pro-Benitec article in SA was fraught with errors. It seems to me that Benitec could benefit from just getting accurate information out there and I can’t imagine another individual more qualified than you with your vast knowledge and gifted writing skills, and it could be accomplished from afar. Heck, you might as well get reimbursed for all the great help you continue to do for Benitec.
I’m sure you would receive hundreds of glowing letters of recommendation from all the Gumshoe members here! 🙂

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Just Irregular
March 8, 2014 6:43 pm
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I agree with Dan here Dr. Karmaswimsami! You might want to look into it! Just my opinion! Thanks for all the help Dr. KSS!

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karmaswimswami
March 8, 2014 1:25 pm

Alan and Randy: Basically Calimmune is trying to use gene silencing to replicate the Berlin patient without stem cell therapy.

The (second) Berlin patient was a man from Washington state with AIDS who got AML. He got induction of remission followed by stem cell transplantation using cells from a CCR5-neg donor. Post-transplant, they eased him off his AIDS meds and he remains virus free now. CCr5 is a docking protein, HIV’s entry portal to lympocytes.

Why was this a success in him but CCR5 silencing incompletely effective in Calimmune’s HIV patients? I think it is because of the reservoir effect. The Berlin patient got “deep” cytotoxic therapy that killed off basically all of his white cell lineages, to rid him of AML, but also such that he needed stem cells to reconstitute his marrow.

Now CAlimmune wants to up the ante: add an HIV fusion inhibitor protein that enables its passage from cell to cell in the body to go along with the CCR5 silencing ddRNAi. It is an incremental step to curing people of HIV. I predict it will succeed, and that it will trounce Sangamo’s efficacy. I will probably try to write something about Oz company Biotron, as their viroporin inhibitor may also help drive HIV out of its sanctuary hiding places.

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KennyG
March 8, 2014 3:16 pm

Last week Adam Feuerstein wrote a bear article on RNN and took the stock down on Friday. Here is Terry Chrisomalis’ bullish response to that article.
http://www.biotechpicklist.com/why-im-bullish-for-rexahn-pharmaceuticals-in-march/

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Just Irregular
March 8, 2014 6:40 pm
Reply to  KennyG

Thanks Kenny for posting this link!
I am long on RNN and was going to ask what everyone thought about the stock? I was hoping I would find some answer to his remarks! If any of the Dr.s would like to reply to the 2 articles, I would love to hear your thoughts!

Thanks Again!

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Group One
March 8, 2014 9:19 pm

Should we take a breath here and focus on THERF? In recent years, it’s been a four or five buck stock that’s become worth a tenth of that. Now it has a drug that (astoundingly) reduces liver fat–and might cure pot bellies as well? While we rest with our BNIKF, let’s take a good look at this thing.

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tanglewood
March 8, 2014 10:38 pm

Hi Randy, Re #1235, I thought it was funny, there you are listed as one of the attendees at the conference, Randolph Trier, Trier Electric,inc. They will be shocked when you ask the tough questions Dr KSS has proposed!

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Randy Trier
March 8, 2014 10:48 pm
Reply to  tanglewood

Yes my electrical knowledge,smart home and LED technology will bowl them over!! Everyone has their strong points.I will be channeling the good Dr.. I will lull Breton into an encounter he never saw coming!!

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zpro
March 8, 2014 11:33 pm

Dr KSS or others, can you comment on how long RNN (or any other company) has been developing Supinoxin in general and Supinoxin p68 RNA specifically? My research show the first public use of the drug name Supinoxin dates back to Feb 6, 2012. Yet I see some references that Supinoxin has been around for a while. Adam Feuerstein of The Street states that Supinoxin has been in RNN’s drawer since 2006 and that it is nothing but an old dead end drug.
BTW – I just joined as an irregular, but have been following this discussion for several weeks. I am not an expert in medicine or sceince, but have worked in health care financing for 20+ years.
My thanks to everyone that has contributed to this discussion. You guys are Awesome.

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