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“This Tiny, Unknown Biotech is About to Unleash Its ‘Holy Grail’ Drug”

Biotech Supertrader teases that "This May be the Most Radical Advance in Medicine in the Last 100 Years"

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, January 8, 2014

Robert Morris is helming a biotech-focused stock newsletter that’s called Biotech Supertrader (modesty has no place in the world of newsletter promotions, of course), and I’ve never covered this letter before so I thought I ought to have a look at the latest teaser we’ve been asked about.

Morris, incidentally, has been featured in our pages before — but that was back when he was editor of China Stock Insider at the same publisher. That letter, like almost all China-focused investment newsletters, seems to have disappeared quietly into that good night … which probably tells you that it’s time to invest in China again, since the newsletter publishers are ignoring the Middle Kingdom and rushing out their pitches about biotech and tech stocks. At the time, Morris was teasing NQ Mobile (NQ), which has turned out to be pretty good if you bought it down there in the $6-8 neighborhood (though it’s been a wild ride).

So now what’s he pitching for his Biotech Supertrader?

Well, the destruction of “Man’s deadliest disease”, of course. Here’s how the teaser gets our attention:

“This Tiny, Unknown Biotech is About to Unleash Its ‘Holy Grail’ Drug on Man’s Deadliest Disease

“Their ‘Guided Missile Approach’ Could Save Thousands of Lives Each Year

“It’s about to become the most talked about advancement in cancer treatment in our lifetimes and you can lock in a life-transforming fortune if you act quickly….

“I’m urging my subscribers to load up on this stock NOW….

“I’ve just uncovered a tiny, unknown biotechnology company with a new cancer drug in phase 3 clinical trials which is showing remarkable success at treating several types of cancer.

“Their scientists have found an innovative approach to cancer care which involves a breakthrough in treatment. It goes deep inside the inner workings of our cells.

“Plus, this medicine looks to be many times more effective and with fewer side effects than the chemo, radiation, and drug therapies currently available.”

If there’s one thing that investors know can make them rich and make them feel good about themselves and the world, it’s a cure for cancer — we’ve seen that effective cancer treatments can and do (occasionally) turn little biotech stocks into gigantic successes, so the dream lives on that you’re going to catch one of these lottery tickets and own the next Genentech. Will we be so lucky? Well, let’s see which one he’s pitching:

“When this drug wins FDA approval – which I believe it will – this small company’s $4.16 stock price will go straight to the moon.

“And the market for this drug is absolutely huge!

“You see, this small biotech is targeting its new drug, let’s call it ‘drug S’, at cancers of the blood and bone marrow. And it is already in very promising phase 3 trials for these two types of cancer.

“But here’s where it gets really interesting. It looks like the drug this company is developing will also work on other types of cancer!

“There are positive signs it works on Non-Small Cell Lung Cancer (NSCLC) too. There are 1.1 million people with this type of malignancy. Just in the United States alone there are over 300,000 patients with this disease according to The American Cancer Society. Each desperate for a cure.

“Plus it looks like ‘drug S’ may turn out to be an effective treatment for ovarian Cancer. There are more than 204,000 new cases of ovarian cancer diagnosed worldwide each year with 22,280 of these in the United States according to the National Cancer Institute estimates.”

So … who is it? Thinkolator sez this is Cyclacel Pharmaceuticals (CYCC)

Cyclacel is indeed a little biotech around $4 (it closed at $4.35 yesterday), with a market capitalization of only about $80 million — so be careful, we’re a big enough group here that if just a small percentage of Stock Gumshoe readers got enthused about this stock it could drive the shares up, less than a million dollars worth of shares trade each day (Biotech Supertrader says they limited their readership to 750 people — I don’t know if that’s still their cap or if they’ve hit it, but we’ll have more folks than that reading this free article).

And like many biotech stocks, it’s got some impressive scientists and it’s been losing money for a long time as they’ve been searching for a viable drug (their current lead drug also was a big focus of theirs back when it was in Phase 1 trials five or more years ago, so that’s a good reminder of the time these things take, it’s just starting Phase 3 trials now). It looks like they must have gone public in 2004, when they were about eight years old, and a quick scan of ten years of their financials over at Morningstar indicates that they’ve never generated more than a token amount of revenue (meaning, they’ve probably had some research collaboration payments or partnership funding, but never got a product to market), and have accumulated more than $250 million in losses to date. And had two reverse splits to keep the price from sinking far into penny territory.

So that’s not unusual, but it means that — as with all developmental-stage biotechs — it’s not about the financials or the fundamentals, it’s about what’s going to happen in their clinical trials and whether things are going well enough that they can continue to finance the trials … which get much more expensive as you progress through Phase 2 and Phase 3.

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All I know about them so far is that they say they’ve got enough cash to get through enrollment in their key Phase 3 study for “drug S” (which is sapacitabine) as of September when they last updated their investor presentation, but I know nothing about the science or the competing cancer drugs that are out there or how fabulous this particular one might be, so I asked our favorite medical writer, Doc Gumshoe (who, yes, is not a doctor) to check them out quickly and chime in. Here’s what he could share after looking into them for a few minutes (he’s just looking at the medical stuff, not so much the “investor presentations”):

    Cyclacel’s Prospects

    Cyclacel has three drugs in development at this time, and is involved in eight clinical trials with these drugs, not including two clinical trials that have been terminated. Their top contender is sapacitabine which targets the division of cancer cells. If you can prevent cancer cells from dividing and reproducing, you have the cancer whipped, so targeting cancer cell division (or mitosis, which is the technical term) is a highly promising avenue for treating cancer. However, we need to take note of the fact that sapacitabine is one of a large number of drugs that propose to fight cancer by this method.

    At present, all eight of Cyclacel’s clinical trials involve sapacitabine. Of these, at least one has been completed – a Phase 1 study of the safety and pharmacology of the drug. Four others are current, with no information about results. These are likely Phase 1 or small Phase 2 studies, to assess safety, determine what a correct dose might be, and evaluate whether the drug does what it’s supposed to do in human subjects with the target diseases, which in this case include acute myeloid leukemia (AML), cutaneous T-cell lymphoma, and some advanced solid tumors. Prior to the clinical trials, sapacitabine has demonstrated impressive results in delaying the spread of metastatic liver cancers in mice.

    From what I can gather from public sources (i.e., the NIH Clinical Trials Registry), there is one Phase 3 trial, which started recruiting patients in February of 2013 and is expected to be completed in late 2015. The trial is in elderly patients with AML, and compares alternating cycles of sapacitabine and decitabine with decitabine alone. Decitabine (Dacogen) is FDA-approved for treating AML and also targets cancer cells’ replication by attacking their DNA.

    It is possible that the Phase 3 trial by itself could lead to FDA approval for sapacitabine, depending on the strength of the results. However, that trial would not get the drug approved for use as monotherapy, since it is not being investigated as monotherapy. My guess is that Cyclacel is planning more trials of sapacitabine as monotherapy, perhaps in younger patients. And my further guess is that FDA approval is still quite a long way off.

    Sapacitabine is also in a Phase 3 trial with cyclophosphamide and rituximab for the treatment of relapsed chronic lymphocytic leukemia. Cyclophosphamide (marketed under several trade names) is a well-established chemotherapy agent used in a number of cancers, and has led to remission in many cases; however, it is associated with truly harrowing adverse effects. Rituximab (Rituxan, Genentech) is used not only in cancers but in some autoimmune diseases. And sapacitabine is also being studied in patients with previously-treated non-small-cell lung cancers.

    Although the piece from Biotech Supertrader said that the drug – identified as “drug S” –is also a promising treatment for ovarian cancer, I find no clue that it is being studied in such patients. [ed note: that’s because that “promise” is in the lab still, not in people — they had a press release about this in the Fall, “75% of Ovarian Cancer Patient Samples Highly Sensitive to Sapacitabine”, not studied in patients but on patient samples]

    Cyclacel has two other drugs in development: selicilib and a drug designated as CYC116. One selicilib study has been terminated, and in a second Phase 1 study, selicilib is used with sapacitabine in patients with advanced solid tumors. Remember, however, that Phase 1 studies are many rungs of the ladder below what’s needed to gain FDA approval.

    CYC116 is an aurora kinase inhibitor, meaning that it blocks the action of an intracellular enzyme that facilitates cancer cell mitosis. This is a promising avenue of cancer treatment, however, the traffic on this avenue is fairly heavy, and includes several other classes of drugs including tyrosine kinase inhibitors, and taxol based agents such as paclitaxel (Taxol, Bristol Myers Squibb); docetaxel (Taxotere, Sanofi-Aventis), Abraxane (a newer formulation of paclitaxel from Celgene) and others.

    CYC116 supposedly also inhibits vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF), which induces the growth of blood vessels that nourish cancer cells. Inhibiting VEGF is a well-established means of combating cancer, and CYC116 could hardly be characterized as a radically new departure in cancer treatment.

    The one trial involving this agent has been terminated. That, of course, does not mean that development of CYC116 stops dead in its tracks – there are many reasons why a trial can be terminated, and ours is not to speculate without more information.

    Beyond those three drugs, it’s hard to guess what Cyclacel may have up its corporate sleeve. It is certainly true that a successful cancer drug – even if only moderately successful– can be transformational for the biotech that develops the drug. But the drugs that Cyclacel has under development do not appear to this skeptical observer to be radically new departures in cancer treatment.

    It’s important to remember, when trying to estimate the likelihood of a single drug demonstrating sufficient efficacy and safety to gain FDA approval and market share, that the competitive field is vast. As I mentioned earlier, Cyclacel has a total of 8 clinical trials in process at this time.

    For the sake of perspective, it’s worth knowing that at present there are 41,445 cancer trials being conducted. So those are the odds.

So there you have it — it’s almost impossible to find a development-stage biotech whose financials look great or that makes your heart go pit-a-pat over their valuation, especially in a biotech bull market like we’ve seen over the past year or so, and Cyclacel doesn’t jump out as spectacular on that front either, not unless you’re a big believer in the promise of their specific drug. They’re a small stock and they don’t get much attention, other than from the analysts who probably helped them sell shares in secondary offerings in recent years, and there aren’t any major “skin in the game” insiders as far as I can tell (the CEO owns $1 million worth of shares, but he gets paid more than that every year), and there’s only one really focused owner on the institutional side that seems to have any kind of biotech focus (Eastern Capital owns about 7% of the shares, roughly $5 million worth … don’t know much about them).

So I don’t see a lot to make them stand out other than Robert Morris’ apparent enthusiasm for the shares (which certainly goes over the top, he calls his special report “The End of Cancer Worries Forever“), and I don’t know enough about the science to be a believer (though, to be fair, I almost never speculate on developmental biotechs because they’re so hit-driven and I’m not smart enough to be a hit-picker in the sector). It is at least encouraging that they are enrolling patients for Phase 3, and that they probably won’t have to raise more money before they have some indication of how the trial is going, but sometime in the next year or two they’re probably going to have to either get good results from this trial that let them raise cash at a good price, or have promising enough results that some big pharma company wants to jump in and help fund development of “drug S” (or just buy up the whole company, as happens with some regularity when a little biotech gets promising results).

Oh, and they are presenting at an investor conference next week, so maybe they’ll have something interesting to share then. As you can tell, this one doesn’t jump into my cup of tea … but these kinds of stocks almost never do. Sound interesting to you? Interested in the science or the lottery-ticket possibilities of $80-million developmental biotechs? Have any experience with Robert Morris or know whether or not we should consider him a biotech savant? Let us know with a comment below.

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siva
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siva
January 20, 2014 8:02 pm

Alan: I hope the above thoughts of mine will take care of your concern on the ability to track tickers and information?

sivapann
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sivapann
January 20, 2014 8:12 pm

ALL: I’m overwhelmed (in a positive way) with the amount of information here. I’m also feeling that these are great information that we need a proper forum to track information, KarmaSS’s invaluable insights by tickers. We also need the ability to poll, add attachments, add sticky notes etc. I have spent some time and found http://www.proboards.com to be an excellent platform. I will volunteer to manage the forum. We can create a private and controlled forum and group information by categories, boards and threads. You can receive notifications to your inbox. proboards has apps for ios and andriod so you can manage messages from your gadgets. I have gone ahead and created a private board for us here:
biotechbuzz.proboards.com

If I see a positive nod from you all, I can scrap the content here and add it to the proboards. I’m also open to any other forums where we can manage and communicate information efficiently.

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Vijay
January 20, 2014 9:17 pm
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Thank You for volunteering.

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hevElee
hevElee
January 20, 2014 9:38 pm

Extremely interesting and useful comment thread. Thanks so much to all who’ve participated and especially to Karma for all his time and contributions.

Rosenmeyer
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January 20, 2014 9:41 pm

fine effort siva but I think we should keep it right here in gumshoe Land

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sivapann
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sivapann
January 20, 2014 10:44 pm

Thanks Patricia, Any reason why you would like to stay here and not to a sophisticated discussion board?

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sivapann
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sivapann
January 20, 2014 10:46 pm

To make it easier, I have opened up the board for public view without any registration.
http://biotechbuzz.proboards.com

Please take a look and I think it has integrated facilities like Calendar, Poll, search etc that will ease our information management. Please do consider and provide your feedback. I do see a few of them already joined.

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Don Barrett
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Don Barrett
January 20, 2014 11:07 pm
Reply to  sivapann

I think that part of the problem in agreeing to use a medium that is more complex than this simple linear forum is that I suspect we all want different things out of the blog. For some, it is enough to quickly read through the posts, take notes on the hot mentions, and move on, or reply and move on. They want a quick and clean in and out.
Others may want to go much deeper into each topic, and fully utilize the time-consuming but potentially efficacious feature set of a full multi-threaded forum, which is daunting to the first group.
Frankly, since the major contributor with the most medical knowledge is Karmaswimswami, who has been so far reticent to comment on these choices, I think we should respect whatever wishes he expresses since, after all, he has freely given of his time and knowledge to make this all happen for us.
I am concerned that if we make this too bothersome and cumbersome for him, we will certainly lose more than we gain.
I personally like the linear forum methodology we have here, as it is simple, quick, informative, and useful.
The good solution may be good enough, and the robust solution may drown us all or at least cause those of us upon whom we rely to throw up their hands and say, “enough!!”

Don

sivapann
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sivapann
January 20, 2014 11:17 pm

Don – I agree with you that the forum is probably not effective without Karmaswimswami. I will wait for his word on this one way or other.

I just feel that this linear commentary model is not scalable, we are already 126 comments old and most of us would like to have access to this on our smart phones which in this case is not possible.

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sivapann
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sivapann
January 20, 2014 11:38 pm

Don – Another suggestion is groups.yahoo.com which is super easy and akin to a linear communication format. You basically comment from your inbox to an email alias and it gets pushed to the entire group.

I’m using this model for another purpose which is also quite effective.

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Rick Czernie
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Rick Czernie
January 21, 2014 12:10 am

Thanks for the education to all of you! As a doc, I wanted to share an experience that amazed me. I had a 2 month old show up with hepatitis B, contracted from a mother who carried it, which had been neglected in the newborn nursery. I tried to do what I could as the liver enzymes smoldered. The medical center tried interferon to no avail. At 12 months, he was expected to have a lifelong issue. At 6 months old, I started him on Silymarin, thinking it might do some good. Nothing changed, but I advised the mom to continue it, since there was nothing else to do. At 14 months, he got hold of it and consumed the whole bottle, about 30 days of dosing. A month later, he became immune to hep B and his enzymes normalized. Coincidence? Whatever, I’ll take it.

Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
January 21, 2014 2:11 pm
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Bless you for being another Doc that cares…………some of the greatest discoveries come by ‘accident’. I hope you are still prodding for answers/research.

karmaswimswami
January 21, 2014 7:47 pm
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Rick: interesting anecdote. Did he clear surface antigen? Is it known which HBV genotype he was? Was he immunized at birth? Silymarin has been studied quite extensively, and while it seems to cause liver test normalization, there is no evidence of it potentiating the immune system. There was no role for interferon alfa in him, and the doses given could cause growth retardation. I do not doubt it happened, but no reader should interpret that as a reason to take silymarin as therapy for virus hepatitis. It has been formally studied to death and found to make no difference virologically. Thanks for posting.

Dallasgirl
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January 21, 2014 12:15 am

I’ve spent the past two hours devouring the wonderful exchange of information and dialogue provided on these pages. I am overwhelmed with the plethora of information offered by Dr. Karmaswimswami, and others. Thanks to all of the contributors here. May we all be en”riched” by these comments and suggestions. I will be reading and re-reading much of the advice offered. Count me in on that newsletter if it ever comes to fruition, Doc !

Ken
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Ken
January 21, 2014 2:17 am
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Very informative thread. I have watched the NIH video on Benitec’s website. I have also looked into Alnylam’s and Isis’s RNAi approaches, and I plan to also review other oligonucleotide-based companies. There are 2 observations/questions I have I hope readers here can comment on:
(1) while Benitec’s ddRNAi/shRNA approach has many awesome benefits (listed here http://www.benitec.com/ddrnai.php) over externally produced siRNA approach used by Alnylam/Isis/etc., its targeting of the DNA creates permanent, and potentially unknown, effects. How will the FDA or the public perceive this risk? Does this mean drugs based on Benitec’s approach will either require longer (hence more expensive) clinical trials to achieve longer dated results or only have limited prescriptions as a last line of defense drug (hence smaller revenue potential)?
(2) as noted in the NIH video, one of the RAC investigators commented that after 20 years of gene therapy research, NO drug based on gene therapy has reached the drug approval stage. What has fundamentally changed that could possibly derisk the economics of drug discovery process for nucleotide-based therapies?

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karmaswimswami
January 21, 2014 7:39 pm
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Ken: thanks for commenting. In animal models, ddRNAi winds down, loses momentum after a few months. There will be finetuning. Choice of vectors. Choice of promoters (any encoded DNA strand must have a 5′ promoter to get transcribed, and promoters come in all potencies.
The lack of approval for gene additive or silencing therapies is mostly a fear owing to the Gelsinger event in 99. Mark Twain said that a cat that steps on a hot burner thereafter regards all burners as hot. No one really knows what killed Gelsinger. Was it the virus? Was it that genes were being transduced? He went into fulminant hepatic failure, but frankly we do not even know if that was from hepatocyte necrosis or apoptosis. But in fact most burners are not hot. Medicine is stepping back up to that plate…..tests in non-human primates, tests in humans with nonloaded vectors. The Gelsinger case was a runaway train, probably with too much of an untested virus. We will get past that stage. It is now clear that case was an exception not a norm. We are doing gene therapy in animals and not having problems and are having good outcomes. One of the key things in that case was that monkeys who got the same adenoviral vector that the patient got DID die. Penn researchers had concealed that. What they did with him was utterly reckless. But now monkeys are not dying and are having genes silenced or replaced.

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karmaswimswami
January 21, 2014 7:40 pm
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Thanks Dallasgirl! I will. I appreciate your support and graciousness.

William Bogert
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William Bogert
January 21, 2014 1:13 am

Karma, thanks for your fantastic analysis and sharing of your time. We are blessed to have you in this forum.

karmaswimswami
January 21, 2014 7:26 pm
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Wow, thanks man! I really appreciate it, I am trying hard. It’s a fun topic isn’t it?

Jack Lecomte
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Jack Lecomte
January 21, 2014 4:58 am

To Siva,
IMHO, as long as tidying things up is not vital for creative flourishing , many times its better to leave them as they are. There is this story about Building 20 at the MIT. Uggliest messiest, and most flexible (temporary wooden) building of MIT, where so many nobel prizes emerged (and where apples met oranges in total freedom)

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Alan Harris
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Alan Harris
January 21, 2014 5:09 am

Hi Siva
First, thanks for your initiative. Like others I have reservations. Too early in UK to have a good look at what you have set up….later.
Moving It all gets a bit political and throwing it open to a public forum risks letting in the abusive, brain dead Yahoo crowd. Certainly we must await Swami’s opinion as its mostly his knowledge and research we are being allowed to share. Doubtless he will come on line soon. But I also think you should email Travis@GS to discuss. He may have just the tool up his sleeve or wish to develop one via your good self.

sivapann
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sivapann
January 21, 2014 9:30 am

Hi Alan
groups.yahoo.com(This is different from the finance yahoo board) or proboards.com is a private and restricted set up and not a public one – just wanted to clarify on that.

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lskulow
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January 21, 2014 10:08 am

I have been reading this comment thread for a few days now and appreciate the educational and often entertaining comments!
Anybody have an opinion on Nuvilex (NVLX)?
From their website:
“Nuvilex has acquired worldwide exclusive rights to the cellulose-based live cell-encapsulation technology, also known as Cell-in-a-Box™, and described above, from SG Austria Pte. Ltd. for the development of treatments for any and all types of cancer. The rights to use the cancer drug-activating cells that will be part of Nuvilex’s treatment for advanced pancreatic cancer (see Pancreatic Cancer section of this website) were also acquired. The acquisition of rights to use the Cell-in-a-Box™ technology for the development of treatments for insulin-dependent diabetes has recently been completed.”
http://www.nuvilex.com/

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karmaswimswami
January 21, 2014 7:24 pm
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As regards their approach to treating pancreatic cancer, there hasn’t been a meaningful new study about this in over 10 years, and meanwhile more interesting and efficacious approaches have come along. The horses have all run past Nuvalex on this one.

The encapsulated cell approach to treating type I diabetes is ornate, rococo, gargoylish, Huxleyan. I have doubts it will ever make it to human trials (it’s only being looked at in mice for now). I have doubts about meaningful viability of implanted encapsulated cells. They may secrete insulin and fend off immune attack for a bit, but they will shortly conk out, die, starve. Meanwhile, insulin pumps work nicely, and islet cells are transplantable, and pluripotent stem cells are closer to being deployable to treat type I diabetes.

The company’s medical marijuana study initiatives…..I mean, so? Are they interesting? Studies of medical marijuana will change nothing and make money for no one except this company’s entrepreneurs. It’s a way of playing fizzbin with investor money til investors catch on to the nonsense.

What I am saying I am not aiming at you. Good that you brought up the company. I just do not think they are going to be around as a going concern for very long. They’re just trying to wheedle investors out of some capital to keep their jobs for a season or two.

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lskulow
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January 21, 2014 9:32 pm
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Thank you so much for your input. I went back to their website and read again with your comments in mind and saw things I didn’t see previously. Not fully understanding the medical jargon and FDA approval process can muddle the picture. I see now how old the cited studies are (2001 an 2003) So glad you took the time to respond. Thank you thank you thank you!

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Bob Paglee
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January 21, 2014 10:48 am

Dr.Karmi, I have just corralled another 3 ponies for my stable that you might consider if you are collecting nominees for a list– ABBV, Abbiv Inc; ARWR, Arrowhead Research, and AHRO, Athernova Inc. I also corralled some more Benitec for $.682

karmaswimswami
January 21, 2014 5:41 pm
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Yes Bob, I have been atop those for a long time. ABBV is a great bluechip biotech play right now. I think I posted something here about it yesterday. AHRO I am following, and waiting for some input from the company. It has only one agent, one that may cause atheromatous plaque to regress. A long shot, but also genuine blockbuster potential. My Russian contacts do not know what the study sites for this agent for phase I and II are in Russia. I am uneasy about this. Arrowhead is interesting. They are using naked siRNA couple to lipid that gets taken up, as I recall, by the liver LDL receptor (a variant on Alnylam’s use of N-acetylgalactosmaine to target naked siRNA to liver via the asialoglycoprotein receptor). They gave their antiHBV to an HBV-infected chimp. What is interesting about these chimps is that they have all been used for tons of studies with many different HBV agents. Which means that their HBV is wicked resistant. Because of that, they have blood levels of hepatitis B surface antigen, DNA and E antigen that are not of this earth, grossly higher than one would ever see in a human with hep B. The chimp has a three log order nosedive with one injection, and also developed a moderate, but not dangerous ALT and AST surge, a sign of an induced hepatitis than adumbrates cure. Now, that was with only one dose, and they didn’t have the funds to dose others. This would not get them approval for a trial in humans in the US, but will be OK for a trial in chronic HBVers in Hong Kong. In Asia, there is a radically different attitude about HBV. There, it’s what your friends and loved ones die from. Anybody with a potential cure is welcome to do a trail in China. I don’t own any ARWR, but have a low threshhold for buying, especially on pullbacks or other news. As somebody who treats HBV and can vouch for what a pestilence it is, I can tell you that their data impress me. If they keep dosing with their lipid-siRNA conjugate, they just might have a cure on their hands. None of the existing therapies, such as entecavir, telbivudune, adefovir, lamivudine, do anything except suppress virus. Frankly, there just isn’t a great longterm batch of data to suggest these approaches are doing much more than marinading the virus so it becomes REALLY resistant.

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tanglewood
January 21, 2014 9:16 pm
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Hi Bob, What brokerage house are you using to purchase Benitec?

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KindergardenInvestor
January 22, 2014 11:37 pm
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I’m not Bob (obviously 🙂 but the only thing I’d say is don’t use Fidelity – they wanted to charge me a $50 fee in addition to the normal commission because they said BNIKF did not trade electronically. I bopped over to my Scottrade account and did the trade there for their standard $7 commission with no extra fees.

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Leo S
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January 21, 2014 10:57 am

Yes, Bob, it appears that a lot of corrals are being expanded this morning, including mine. Question: with 277,000 shares being traded instead of the average 8000, doesn’t a lot of this stock have to be coming from the company stash??? Anyone care to weigh in on this? Regards.

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biocqr
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January 21, 2014 12:17 pm

Be careful… Benitec is not a “tiny $50M market cap”
In Benitec’s 2013 annual report it states…
“At the end of the financial year, there were 439,857,844 unissued ordinary shares (2012: 428,985,202) over which options were outstanding”
Source (page 35): http://www.benitec.com/documents/BLTAnnualreport2013.pdf
There’s also 89,609,248 ordinary shares outstanding so on a fully diluted basis that’s 518M shares which @ .74 gives BNIKF a mc of $383M.
Also the licencing revs are miniscule…only $521K in 2013. source: page 29 of the 2013 annual report.

With no revs to fall back on, if ddRNAi were to fail, the share price would collapse IMO.

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biocqr
January 21, 2014 3:21 pm

Travis, thanks for the info. I did not see the 25:1 rs. I found a more accurate share count in this Nov 2013 presentation on page 18…
http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20131114/pdf/42kv85zz8v1zqt.pdf

As of Nov 12, 2013 the share count was 83,960,907 and the options on issue were 19,797,734.

The cash balance was $1.58M Aus and monthly burn of $231K Aus

Based on the shares + options of 104M the current diluted mc is about $83M U.S. ($94M Aus)

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January 21, 2014 10:22 pm
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Hi William, Benitec’s cash balance as at 30 September was $6.1m. Prior to this, they paid $5m to secure favourable terms with a Europeon company to conduct a PI/II trial for their lung cancer program. I expect they still have around $5.5m left.

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karmaswimswami
January 21, 2014 5:27 pm
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William: definitely sobering points, especially in light of today’s exuberance in BNIKF. But ddRNAi does work in other organisms, including plants and animals. It works famously in monkeys, and frankly they have 99.6 per cent DNA identity with us. It is not just the HCV trial. BNIKF has a trial for nonsmall cell lung cancer going as well. it is promising. There’s quite a bit of Kabuki theater going on as regards potential suitors and partners. Benitec seems to be the pretty girl many Big Pharma players want to date. Also, they have access to another credit facility to keep trials going.

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January 21, 2014 1:04 pm

Could Dr. KarmiSS, Travis or anyone please give me their opinion of CTIX, Cellceutix Corporation an odd little company being run very differently than others. They are working with P53 Guardian Angel gene and doing Phase 2 at Harvard deaconess and MD Anderson has asked to do research at no charge to the company. They released info on a new antibotic Brilacidin this morning for antibotic resistant strains. They just got 10 million from Aspire capitol so they have the money to finish trials. http://cellceutix.com/ . Thanks.

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karmaswimswami
January 21, 2014 5:07 pm
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Kipley: Thanks for posting. I was studying on this company last night. CTIX is definitely appealing. What appeals to me most is the brilacidin work. It is a mimic of a class of natural antibiotic substances called defensins, and these are an old and distinguished class of proteins found in all eukaryotic multicelled organisms. Bacteria have been a perennial life threatening issue for eukaryotes (plants and fungi too, not just animals) since t-naught, They work by puncturing holes in bacterial cell membranes, which causes entropy, ion fluxes, death. One very interesting thing about these pertains to vitamin D. While I have great skepticism about vitamins and the benefits ascribed to them, it has become quite clear, based on a spate of research last year in particular, that high serum vitamin D levels are associated with fewer flus. A nice study or two last year showed however that children with adequate vitamin D get far fewer (bacterial) ear infections and that adults undergoing surgery who have adequate vitamin D are about half as likely to get post-op bacterial events (wound infections, pneumonitis, etc.) I doubted vit D could help with bacterial disease, but then found a cache of papers: There is good evidence that vitamin D causes intrinsic elaboration of defensins to surge. A defensin-mimetic makes good sense. Frankly, brilacidin could really succeed famously against carbapenem-resistant enteric organisms (those make me quietly want to move to another planet). Bacteria will, natch, finally find some way around these, but from the looks of it, that may take a long time!

While brilacidin is mostly being explored for gram positives such as Staph aureus, there is already good data that it is quite panmicrobial, that it nukes gram negatives and anaerobes as well. And theoretically it should. I am not sure why it needs a phase IIb trial, but it dazzled in phase IIa. With the FDA screaming about how badly new antibacterials are needed, and with this one not showing features of liver or kidney toxicity, this might really meet with approval sans phase III. What is very cool about brilacidin is that it is totally sui generis. Nothing else like it. Nothing even remotely close.

I think not many people realize how awful the antibiotic issue is for medicine. The fact is, doctors overuse them. And they have been major components of cattle and poultry feed (the FDA is curbing that). Resistance will always be a big problem. New classes will always be needed, and yet very few companies are rising to this. I have a watch list of about 5 private antiibiotic developers I am waiting to go public. I have been long for several years on Cubist (CBST) and done well with it. Its main agent, daptomycin (Cubicin) is Rambocillin for Staph aureus. It is patent-protected through 2018. But I am not so sure CBST has got a great second act. It is behind fidaxomicin for C. diff. But frankly with fecal transplants and probiotics and Sanofi’s C. diff vaccine, fidaxomicin may be anticlimactic. I am not dumping CBST yet, but no one should buy here.

My sense in lookin at CTIX, which has really been quite up and down these years, is that there has NOT been a price movement that reflects brilacidin and its great promise. So it is definitely a hold on that premise alone, and may be a buy.

As to its p53 work, that is a tough call. P53 acting therapies are a siren song that has splintered many a good ship. I would not invest just on the hope that that therapy (Kevetrin) is going to succeed. Maybe, maybe not. I have a lot of intellectual doubts that manipulating the Guardian Angel gene is going to fix anything. Wait for an interim phase II report.

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David B.
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January 21, 2014 7:29 pm
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Kipley: CTIX is pretty intriguing. They have quite a few “shots on goal” for such a small company. As Karma mentioned they are having some nice successes as well even if the “guardian angel” theme doesn’t pan out. It’s a decent risk reward given their rather robust pipeline. I would put Xencor in this same category.

Warner
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January 21, 2014 1:20 pm

Hi All, I have been frustrated all morning trying to buy Benitec stock through TDA. I have been under the quoted price most of the time with no execution of the order With TDA I must use a limit order which should be no problem. Any thoughts? Thanks.

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