Solving Agora’s “Meet The Tiny Company Holding A Real Cure for Cancer” Tease

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, June 14, 2016

Ray Blanco is running another ad with a near-term deadline for big anticipated stock movements — last time around, it was the pitch about Energous (WATT) and his conviction that Apple CEO Tim Cook would say something exciting about wireless charging for iPhones at the WWDC this year (that was yesterday, and Cook did no such thing).

This time it’s a more typical “data is about to come out” pitch for a biotech stock. Blanco’s ad has us fixated on July 1 for this one… so, while we should remind ourselves that these near-term teased catalysts often have much more to do with the urgent need to get you to subscribe to a newsletter than with the real prospects of a particular company, we do still want to figure out what stock he’s talking about.

(Yes, newsletter pitches use a specific date for “possible” future gains all the time, sometimes even a made-up date — that’s not by accident, they know that potential subscribers who set an ad aside and try to think about it rationally are not so likely to subscribe, so they have to get you to click that buy button QUICK while they’ve got you excited… and what better way to speed you up than by telling you that the biggest gains for this particular stock will start within days so you have to GET IN NOW?)

But anyway, the hook for this spiel is kind of interesting, and it clearly caught the eye of a bunch of our readers, most of whom apparently don’t wish to cough up $2,000 to subscribe to Breakthrough Technology Alert) — here’s the part that got my attention:

“BEHIND THE MOST SHOCKING MEDICAL NEWS OF THE 21ST CENTURY…

“Clue for Cancer Cure Treatment Buried Inside 3,418 Year-Old Egyptian Tomb

“Scientists at Silicon Valley “Start Up” Already At Work to Synthesize This Treatment into New Drug…

“FDA Approval Could Happen Soon.

“The best time to get in is before July 1, 2016”

Really? A cancer cure hidden in an Egyptian Tomb?

I couldn’t be happier… I really miss the old “Indiana Jones” teasers about intrepid explorers finding incredible wealth, those used to come rolling in every day pitching the incredible exploits of the latest oil explorer or junior mining company, dodging bullets in a war zone as they dug deep in the earth to find riches… and that kind of swashbuckling storytelling is really missed. Even if it didn’t exactly make all of us regular investors rich, at least we were entertained.

And, yes, the “cure cancer” bit is good too. Nobody likes cancer.

So what’s the story? Well, they actually segue into that big attention-getting news item with the glioblastoma trials at Duke that showed so much promise last month — Blanco does not, of course, share all the details, but the quotes and results in the lead-in are from that story, which made it to 60 Minutes (that coverage is from last month, though 60 minutes also did a piece on it back in the Spring of 2015).

That was about a particular cancer immunotherapy trial, in which researchers at Duke used an altered polio virus to fight brain cancer.

And I’m afraid that’s where the Egyptian connection comes in — they didn’t find some secret clue in a tomb, but Blanco’s copywriters no doubt knew that hieroglyphics would get our attention… so they included a photo of what they think is the world’s first representation of a polio victim, an image taken from an Egyptian tomb.

Does that have anything to do with the story? No, not really. It just reenforces the notion that investigators are using some frightful viruses as part of their war on cancer — largely as targeting tools, since the polio virus appears to be attracted to the receptors on many solid tumors, and as immune response boosters. There’s nothing new in that, lots of viruses have been researched for use in cancer immunotherapy since before folks were calling it immunotherapy.

So after all that, here we are with — an immunotherapy stock. As with similar ads they’ve run in the past, the great examples are from a variety of public and private research (like the Duke polio/glioblastoma work, which is probably licensed to an early stage private company made up largely of the scientists who worked on the team, I don’t think the licensee has been disclosed), but the examples are really used just to draw a picture of the excitement possible with immunotherapy in general… not necessarily to detail the specific drugs under development by the company they’re recommending.

Which company, then, is Blanco teasing? Here are some clues:

“The company at the head of this breakthrough was founded by a scientist we’ll call ‘Dr. Arjun.’

“Dr. Arjun got his medical degree in 1974, and completed his residency at Harvard Medical School in 1985.

“He’s also the director of the UCLA Institute of Urologic Oncology, Professor of Urology, and Chief of the Division of Urologic Oncology at the David Geffen School of Medicine.

“But in addition to his many talents in education and medicine, he’s also an outstanding businessman.

“When he’s not teaching how to perform surgery or running the cancer institute at UCLA, he’s using his free time to start lucrative cancer treatment biotech companies.

“And the tiny ‘startup’ company Dr. Arjun founded went up 415% just 6 months after going public.”

OK, so they’ve got an accomplished guy in charge… and apparently the stock has already gone up a lot, but they think it’s going to go a lot higher. More clues:

“Right now, Dr. Arjun’s company is sitting in a perfect position for investors to start making 1,782% possibly starting as soon as July 1, 2016.

“All it takes is a little number crunching on a cocktail napkin to understand.

“Remember how cancer treatment spending is estimated to grow to $109 billion in the next five years?

“Imagine if Dr. Arjun’s company grabs just 10% of it… my conservative estimate.

“That alone would put its cancer treatment sales on par with the pharmaceutical giant Novartis, which owes $42 billion of its market cap to cancer drugs.

“Let’s say Dr. Arjun’s company claims a similar market cap… shares could climb upwards of well over 1,782% from where it is now.

“This could happen very soon, as their promising cancer therapy heads into the next phases before approval.”

OK, “conservative estimate” is a subjective phrase — but if this “Dr. Arjun” gets 10% of $109 billion in cancer treatment spending, that would mean $11 billion in revenue. There are some pharmaceutical companies with revenue that high, but that doesn’t mean projecting $11 billion in revenue for a drug that’s not yet approved is “conservative.”

There are some folks who are trying to make projections about what will be the leading cancer drugs in five years — they’re almost certainly going to be wrong, but their guesses provide a framework for thinking about scale. They think Revlimid will lead the pack with $10 billion in sales, and that others like Opdivo and Avastin will be in the $5-10 billion neighborhood. Revlimid is expected to hit $6.5 billion in sales this year (close to $6 billion last year), but it was first tested in the clinic in 2001 and approved by the FDA in 2005 after a very fast fast-track approval process… even with “fast track,” it takes time to build those big cancer drug franchises.

CELG has, of course, been a fantastic investment for anyone who held it for the past 10-15 years — it is very reliant on Revlimid for sales, though it has other products, and it is running at about $10 billion in revenue per year and has a $75 billion market cap — so perhaps that’s the kind of model the newsletters are hoping to see replicated.

But what is the company we’re being teased about? Well, “Dr. Arjun” has to be Dr. Arie Belddegrun… which means the immunotherapy company they’re teasing is Kite Pharma (KITE).

And no, I’m still not a biotech guy — I don’t know how to measure KITE versus the many other young CAR-T biotechs like Juno, Bluebird and the like, and investing my time in understanding specific biotechs is not worthwhile. Dr. KSS writes ably about the biotech world for the Irregulars and has had kind things to say about KITE in the past (most recent comment is here, I believe), but it’s been a pretty bumpy ride for all of the CAR-T biotechs (for those who aren’t paid members, Michael Jorrin also penned a piece about cancer care and summed up some of the trends, and the basic info about the CAR-T stocks, over a year ago here.)

So I won’t go any further in opining on KITE for you today, though I will note that this same newsletter has used different spiels to pitch this same stock twice in the past couple of years — first in October of 2014, then again about a year ago when Stephen Petranek was calling this the “iCells” cure for cancer. That iCells pitch was in June of 2015, and at the time they were predicting that you could get 1,782% gains in two years — they’re still using that same percentage, though now the returns are supposed to “start” on July 1.

The only specifics I’ve seen about “July 1” in KITE’s info (I may have missed something) note that they expect their next pivotal data in the second half of 2016… and, of course, the second half of 2016 starts on July 1. It doesn’t end until December 31, for those who are calendar-illiterate, but, well, that’s all I’ve got for you.

So what do you think? There are likely at least hundreds of you who know more about KITE than I do, and who understand the science and have some idea of the timeline… feel free to jump right in and share your thoughts with a comment below. Thanks!


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Dr KSS MD PhD (former columnist)
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I like $KITE and have a long position that’s in the green. I don’t think the profit projections are as rich as teased, but this company executes well and will likely get FDA approval for its first NDA. Its horizon is mostly limned by the unknowns CAR-T faces…and those include that CAR-T will be the province of the tertiary care center, will be high-priced, and will require aggressive peer to peer authorization. CAR-T will be last-line therapy, and still carries with it untamed toxicity potential. And it will be well over a year before CAR-T plays see the torrid fulminant… Read more »
jeff
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Ziopharm is able to control toxicity in dosage, with their rheoswitch.

Lulu
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While Kite, Juno and Bluebird seem to be the same. Only one company has clear title to critical IP. CAR-T’s biggest problem is that it must be personalized and blood transfused to work. You’re not going to see pills n harmact shelves…

Teddi Knight
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The company has 185 employees and $19.5 million in revenue. Price to earnings is non-existent and earnings this year are negative $2.85 per share. Instead we can look at price to cash flow which is 128.3 times. Obviously this is a speculative trade. For those who like to gamble they may like this kind of stock, but overall these types of stocks can be portfolio killers for the average retail investor. If you want to gamble with money that you can afford to lose then I guess this is just another one of the hundreds of stocks that can be… Read more »
Dr KSS MD PhD (former columnist)
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I recently exited $BMY for a profit. It’s overpriced, and its checkpoint inhibitors will soon be recognized as first-generation attempts that will be supplanted by better agents. Too much Opdivo revenue is baked into shares, and yet the autoimmune problems with it are mounting.

alfie0077
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You always have great stuff!. Here is another puzzle. (It will be just as bust as 99.44% pure of all the stuff that is pushed. (remember the Ivory ads 99.44 percent pure). FROM, just straight from FOOL! (you are much much better than fool) Apple isn’t even responsible for developing the technology that makes mobile payments possible… And along with Google, Microsoft, Samsung, Nokia, Motorola, and just about every other major phone manufacturer, they’re now paying the company that invented this technology hundreds of millions of dollars each year to get it inside their phones. So the million dollar question… Read more »
J WAYNE MITCHELL
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I WOULD LIKE THE FULL STORY & THE NAME OF THE COMPY PER YOUR MESSAGE.
THANKS
WAYNE
Click here now for the full story, and to learn about the company behind this cutting-edge technology before the masses jump on board and drive its stock price straight through the roof…

Michael Jorrin,
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Michael Jorrin (aka Doc Gumshoe)

Lots of pharma outfits are looking at targeting cancers via viruses, which sometimes go after cancerous cells in preference to normal cells. KITE & JUNO may have an edge, but Amgen, for example, has an oncovirus that can be injected into melanomas that are considered non-resectable, and also seems to inhibit the growth of melanomas other than the ones into which it was injected. But there are obstacles on all fronts, and CAR-T is never going to be first-line therapy. I have held Celgene not for ten years, but for just about five.

Dr. FcFrag
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As a guy in the business (the make it work end of the business, not the stick the needle in the arm end) I can assure you that CAR-T’s are an order of magnitude more complex, and more expensive, than mAbs. I cannot see them as a 1st-line therapy for these reasons alone.

Individualized care is great in theory, but it will be difficult to put into routine practice.

Sailormike
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What do you think of INO’s dmAb approach to immunotherapy ?

Gr8Full!
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Juan Contreras
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There is a team headed up br Dr Carl June that is really making unbelieveable strides in curing leukemia and is using the same approach towards curing other cancers but sadly no one seems to be investing in his work. Google Dr Carl June, ” Fighting Fire With Fire”, and see how this guy is beating
at least one form of cancer. NO BULL!!

hendrixnuzzles
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Hi Juan. Novartis is investing plenty, they gave over $20 million to the University of Pennsylvania to advance cancer research, they are supporting June’s work in a major way.
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/news/News_Releases/2012/08/novartis/

$NVS no position

kare100
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Which US Oil pipeline has raised dividends each quarter since 2011? Thanks, Ron Kare

Harold Hansen
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Lots of good stuff out there! I’m really surprised
That they don’t have something out yet. It’s when
It’s mesmatized? that things really get rough.
I had prostate cancer, and they froze it off. Gone in
3 weeks. Thank God! But it hadn’t spread so I was
Very lucky!

j wayne MITCHELL
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WHAT IS THE STOCK SYMBOL FOR THIS CURE ??
THANKS,
WAYNE

blau1948
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The new look of Stock Gumshoe is difficult to navigate. After I entered a search, I clicked on search and it does not go anywhere. It was never like this before, I am disappointed and frustrated that I cannot consistently get to the bottom of my search.

Lisa
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Does anyone know what is being teased as the “Alpha cell” cure for cancer?

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