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DeHaemer and “The Four ‘Coal Contracts’ You Need to Claim by March 8th”

What are these $2,000+/month "contracts" being teased by Christian DeHaemer's Bull and Bust Report?

Christian DeHaemer’s latest ad pitch for his entry level commodities-focused newsletter Bull and Bust Report ($49/year, used to be called Bubble and Bust Report) is all about coal… with the big premise that President Trump is behind coal and will be forcing the Chinese to buy a lot of U.S. coal as part of any trade deal. Here’s a little taste from the ad:

“When the Clock Strikes Midnight on March 8, 2019…

“CHINA LOSES & YOU ARE RICH

“President Trump Just Signed These Secret Trade War Plans… And Now YOU Can Collect Checks for $2,493… $4,112… and $6,383 — Every Month!”

And he goes into the “china will buy more coal” bit here…

“For years, China has manipulated its currency, taken advantage of unfair tariffs, and totally gamed the system against America…

“But the biggest problem America has had with China is the trade deficit.

“We buy way more of China’s stuff than they buy of ours.

“$375 BILLION more.

“That’s a problem!

“And President Trump has made it clear that China must buy more American products…

“Or he will just tax the stuff China buys from us to make up the difference.

“And guess what?

“China just caved.

“China has an insatiable thirst for one specific thing…

“Coal.

“China can’t use its own coal because it’s not as high a quality as ours.

“And they need it — lots of it — for energy and building infrastructure.

“As a matter of fact, China was on pace to buy 89 MILLION TONS of coal from America this year.

“And it just agreed to order even more.”

And that’s pretty much the big picture theme of the ad, once you get past the hyperbole, but he sums it up here:

“Any American can now ‘stake a claim’ in an operational coal mine…

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“And rake in the guaranteed cash that a claim can bring.

“It’s easy to do!

“You don’t have to visit any mines or know anything about coal.

“You just have to know three things:

  1. China caved to Trump and is buying more coal to close the trade deficit.
  2. Trump ordered power plants to buy more coal.
  3. Trump is a HUGE supporter of coal, and he’s fulfilling yet another campaign promise.”

I’m skipping over most of the political malarkey, mostly because that’s just there to get you riled up and cheering for or against a particular “team,” making sure that you don’t waste your time thinking deeply about the investment ideas mentioned.

So then we get to the meat of the spiel… the pitch for four actual “coal contracts” that DeHaemer thinks you should “claim” to get these massive monthly checks that will flow from Trump’s love of coal. I’ll go through them one at a time and see if we can get you some answers.

“Coal Contract Claim #1
“Claims: Limited Supply
“Rating: HIGH

“Operating in the Illinois Basin, this company controls 2.1 BILLION tons of coal deposits.

“Its four mines specialize in producing thermal coal — exactly the type needed by not only Americans but also overseas buyers like China.

“It has invested heavily in state-of-the-art mining operations and the related transportation infrastructure.

“That means it produces the kind of volume Trump’s directive requires and can move it quickly and turn fast profits.

“And you can make a claim for less than $4!”

That one is Foresight Energy LP (FELP), owner of, indeed, about 2.1 billion tons of (mostly) thermal coal that they mine and sell to US power plants as well as other customers around the world.

Here’s how they describe themselves:

“Foresight is a leading producer and marketer of thermal coal controlling nearly 2.1 billion tons of coal reserves in the Illinois Basin. Foresight currently operates two longwall mining complexes with three longwall mining systems (Williamson (one longwall mining system) and Sugar Camp (two longwall mining systems)), one continuous mining operation (Macoupin) and the Sitran river terminal on the Ohio River. Additionally, Foresight has recently resumed continuous miner production at its Hillsboro complex and continues to evaluate potential future mining options. Foresight’s operations are strategically located near multiple rail and river transportation access points, providing transportation cost certainty and flexibility to direct shipments to the domestic and international markets.”

Foresight is a MLP and is probably primarily owned by income-seeking investors, and carries a pretty high debt burden that they are gradually paying down, so it is likely to be both interest-rate sensitive and sensitive to changes in the price of thermal coal. They certainly have enough reserves to keep producing coal for years as long as prices remain high enough, and that will presumably lead to continued cash distributions to unitholders (since it’s not a corporation, they aren’t called “shares” or “dividends”), and distributions are unlikely to be taxed since the operating losses, including depreciation, are so high that the distributions will be mostly classified as “return of capital” and will just lower your cost basis… this is not uncommon among MLPs, whether the partnership is a natural resource producer like this or an infrastructure owner like the pipeline MLPs, though the producing MLPs are far more sensitive to commodity prices and operating costs.

And the current yield is fairly high — they just raised the distribution to six cents/quarter, for a total of 24 cents a year, so that’s a yield of better than 7% if you buy at about $3. Whether that turns into a meaningful depends, of course, on how much you invest and for how long they can keep paying and raising the distribution, but it’s not a free cash rebate or anything like that. This is an investment with some level of risk and an expected cash return, but it’s also an investment in a depleting asset.

The lowest “monthly check” that I saw referenced in DeHaemer’s ad was $2,009, which would be $6,027 per quarter… so to get that with this particular investment you’d have to have just over 100,000 shares, at a cost of roughly $300,000. It’s a decent cash return, as you’d expect for a high-yield investment that investors perceive as being at least somewhat risky, but it’s not a windfall… and I guess it should go without saying, but if you start with $20, you’re not going to get massive monthly checks.

Coal has obviously been in decline for decades, broadly speaking, though there have been pockets of strong price performance as well — sometimes particular kinds of coal, sometimes just surges in Chinese demand or in natural gas prices (natural gas is the biggest competitor for coal when it comes to electricity generation, and is less of a pollution risk, and natural gas has been made cheap by fracking). This particular MLP has been around for almost five years, and investors who bought in 2014 would have seen their investment lose around 75% of its value, mostly, it appears, because the price collapsed in 2015 as the cash distribution was slashed from about $1.46/year to zero, before they restarted the distribution in 2017.

Yes, President Trump has talked a lot about coal and how much he loves it, but there are probably limits to what he can do for the coal mining business in the long run — and having a President who loves coal does not mean it becomes instantly more profitable to own all coal stocks… if you had waited until the 2016 election to buy shares of this coal MLP, you would currently be sitting on a loss of 48%.

Maybe that means this is a perfect time and coal will have a long resurgence, I have no idea… but I wouldn’t expect it to be a smooth ride one way or the other.

And the others? Let’s see the clues:

“Coal Contract Claim #2
“Claims: Limited Supply
“Rating: HIGH

“With coalmines based in Ohio and Wyoming, this company produced $7.4 million tons of coal last year.

“It specializes in thermal coal and is strategically located near rail and barge transportation.

“With Trump’s new initiative, it will be a dominant player in the Midwest, Northeast, and Rocky Mountain regions.

“You can snatch up a claim today for less than $2!”

This is odd, because going by both the hints and the little map image they they include in the ad, this one must be Westmoreland Resources (was WMLP, now delisted at WMLPQ in bankruptcy restructuring)… which, far from paying out a big distribution on March 8, filed for bankruptcy on October 9, 2018. Yes, you could have bought it for $2 on October 8, and it was expected to pay a dividend at the time (and had been paying distributions since 2015, though the fact that the indicated yield was ~30% last summer was certainly a red flag), but today it’s in “restructuring” and the MLP units are trading for less than a penny… which is a pretty good indication that the common unitholders don’t think they’re going to end up owning anything of value once the restructuring is complete.

I suspect that the copywriter put together a lusty “Trump loves coal, but the new House Democratic majority wants to steal your coal money so act fast!” ad without getting an update on DeHaemer’s favorite coal stocks, I can’t imagine any rational person is urging you to buy the delisted shares of a hugely indebted company in restructuring… but that is indeed an odd one to find in this list (and no, it’s not Westmoreland Coal, the non-MLP part of the company — that’s also a disaster and is part of the bankruptcy filing (ticker WLBA, now WLBAQ), but it’s been over a year since that one was near $2 (it’s now three cents) and I don’t think it ever paid a dividend.

We can only go up from here, right? What’s the next one?

“Coal Contract Claim #3
“Claims: Very Limited Supply
“Rating: HIGH

“This company is flying under everyone else’s radar.

“It is a smaller mining company recently acquired by a huge mining juggernaut with 1.9 billion in cash reserves.

“That gives it the infrastructure and funding it needs for fast growth.

“You can stake a claim for $13!”

This one is a little tricker — not many coal stocks have traded near $13 in the past year or so, even if we give some flexibility for the fact that it looks like at least one of these stocks is being teased with old data. Actual cash reserves of $1.9 billion, if that number was meant to have a dollar sign in front of it, would put it in pretty rarefied air among natural resources companies and therefore my best guess for you here would be Glencore (GLEN in London, GLNCY for the ADR, or GLNCF OTC in the US).

Glencore’s ADR did trade near $13 earlier this year, and they have been acquiring coal miners in recent years as they try to consolidate a hold on an unpopular and troubled industry, so coal is still a fairly small part of their business (about a third of EBITDA in 2018 came from thermal coal), but they’re becoming a larger coal player now — not as big as BHP Billiton (BHP), but still big, and with a hand in much of global commodities trading. And they have been buying back shares of late and pay a decent dividend (last year’s dividend was 40 cents for US ADR holders, payable in two installments in June and November, so that’s roughly a 5% yield at the current $8 share price — I don’t know what the dividend will be in 2019, it will depend on the financial results). Coal will be important for Glencore, for sure, though their Democratic Republic of the Congo mining operations for copper and zinc will arguably be more important, so there’s also clearly some political risk.

And that one counts as a guess, to be clear, DeHaemer could easily be talking up something else given those limited clues.

How about the last one?

“Coal Contract Claim #4
“Claims: Limited Supply
“Rating: VERY HIGH

“This is the most expensive claim I recommend, but it’s for good reason.

“Its coal deposits and mining operations span from one end of America to the other: Appalachia, the Illinois Basin, Louisiana, and the West.

“Its management and operation teams are packed full of the best in the business.

“And it is ready to take advantage of the new money rolling in thanks to Trump’s order.

“For around $30, you can stake a claim right now.”

This one is almost certainly Peabody Energy (BTU), the US coal mining giant that came out of bankruptcy protection about two years ago (they filed in 2016 along with lots of other coal companies, mostly because coal prices had fallen so far that they could no longer service their debt). They still have a good chunk of debt on the books, a couple billion dollars, but it’s much more manageable than the $10 billion or so in 2016, and the somewhat improving business has allowed them to pay down debt and buy back stock over the past year even as they pay out regular and special dividends. They have a special supplemental dividend pending now, in fact, they will pay out $1.85 per share to holders as of March 12, so that represents a solid yield of almost 6% on top of the “regular” dividend that is paid quarterly (the regular dividend is 52 cents/year, so that’s another 1.6%).

The shares have been volatile, as with pretty much all coal stocks, but they are currently at $31, way off of the July 2018 highs ($47 or so) and near a 52-week low (and, coincidentally, very close to where the stock was priced when it relisted for trading after bankruptcy, though it fell 25% or so immediately upon the resumption of trade in 2017).

There is a little bit of analyst coverage for Peabody, which has also been working to consolidate the industry a bit with some acquisitions in the past year, and if you want a relatively large “pure play” coal stock Peabody is probably the most reasonable choice — though analysts don’t see any revenue growth for BTU over the next few years, and earnings are expected to fall considerably from the 2018 highs… you can see the company’s 2018 results conference call transcript here if you want to get an idea of how BTU sees its own future.

And that’s all we have for your coal names for today.

Yes, President Trump still talks up coal and seems to be trying to fulfill his promises to coal-mining state voters, but it’s still a hard slog to prop up an industry that is generally disliked by pretty much all non-coal states, relies on foreign demand at a time when the dollar is quite high, has large environmental costs, and is no longer the cheapest baseline power option for US utilities (that’s now natural gas in a lot of places). Coal plants are still being shut down for economic reasons, even though coal companies enjoy a much friendlier relationship with regulators and the federal government. Things are better for the coal companies than they were in 2015-2016, but that’s not necessarily saying a whole lot — those were the years when most of the US coal miners went into bankruptcy (or at least came close).

I have no idea where it will all go, of course, and times of maximum pessimism do tend to be profitable times to invest in downtrodden natural resources stocks… but buying them in these huge slumps is still painful and a tendency is not the same as a promise, so be careful, sometimes whole businesses and sectors of the economy just die or get supplanted, too.

And, of course, the “coal contracts” checks you might receive by buying into these companies are not “free money” and they are commensurate with the investment you put at risk — the yields range from about 5-8% for the three that are still paying dividends or distributions (for those who are unfamiliar with the concept, expected yield is just the payment you receive as a percentage of your investment at the current market price — so if the yield is 5%, you’d expect to receive $50 a year on a $1,000 investment, and these are equity yields, distributions and dividends, not bonds, so the amount can grow or shrink and is not at all guaranteed… and the folks who owned coal stocks in 2015 and 2016 can probably vouch for the fact that the $1,000 you invest is not at all guaranteed to not go to zero, either).

That’s about all I’ve got for you today on these “coal contracts” … whaddya think? Find this downtrodden industry appealing? Think President Trump or increased Chinese demand will manage to drag the miners out of the doldrums again, or is the decline more of a persistent trend? Have any other favorites in the space? I’m not terribly optimistic about coal in general, but I’ll always try to keep an open mind… let us know what you’re thinking with a comment below.

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wade3
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March 4, 2019 3:10 pm

…Coal? You got to be kidding! In 2019?! What next will be touted?…Kodak film?…a manufacturer for floppy discs, fax machines, landlines?

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Glenn Henderson
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Glenn Henderson
March 4, 2019 5:36 pm
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Dont count coal out mine Alabama mining clean coal symbol HCC doing incredibly well with a dividend check it out.

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Allen Scarbrough
Allen Scarbrough
May 6, 2019 7:25 pm

Ditto, this $28 metallurgical coal producer (HCC) has paid out over $20 in (special) dividends over the last 2.5 – 3 years and has a PE of around 3.7x.
For the those not familiar with metallurgical coal, it is used primarily in the production of steel.

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Dave
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Dave
October 2, 2019 3:04 pm

For a company that skipped dividends completely as recently as 2016 and has a normal dividend payout of about 1%, I’m not staking my investment future on a company that has lost 25% of its value in one year.

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Paul
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Paul
March 4, 2019 10:55 pm
Reply to  wade3

I have a pile of 5 1/2″ floppy disks (that really are floppy) and the matching drive, because you never know when they might come in handy.

Charley
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Charley
August 26, 2019 6:20 pm
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Hi Paul just thought I would mention that our missles are operated with flopppy discs. Sounds weird but the reason is they are almost impossible to hack.

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Dave
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October 2, 2019 3:05 pm
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except it’s not that they are impossible to hack, its that the cost to upgrade the system is astronomical

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Eddie
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July 20, 2019 11:17 am
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China is to purchase more from us as they don’t have quality coal and we have a deficit with them.

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edw2269
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March 4, 2019 3:51 pm

I live in Southern IL and am very familiar with FELP. I wouldn’t touch them with a 10 ft pole, although they do ship most of their coal to China because it is high sulfur coal.

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danscot
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danscot
March 4, 2019 4:15 pm

”…Coal? You got to be kidding! In 2019?! What next will be touted?…Kodak film?…a manufacturer for floppy discs, fax machines, landlines?”

Spot-On – Coal and Oil for that mstter are literarly ‘Dead in the Water’ as renewables in both WIND/SOLAR keeps getting more and more compettetive and less destuctive to the Enviroment – ‘Batterries’ on the other hand is the next NEW Powerhouse on a global SCALE to resorce and maintain energy harvested – Simple but true ..

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tsivalls
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March 6, 2019 2:02 pm
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Oil is NOT dead in the water….good gracious I live in the Permian Basin and we are producing MORE than ever….if you think wind and solar can power everything you are clueless on energy and the demands of it around the world. Just to power my home on solar would cost over $70,000 in solar panels and the batteries have to be replaced again and again (I checked into it recently)….I will take Natural Gas and OIL….

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jflynch
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jflynch
March 7, 2019 7:54 pm
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Agree that oil and gas are big….was in Eastern Ohio last year….oil trucks were all over the place drilling wells….the big companies….coal…I wouldn’t get into it….unless your an expert.

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Vaughn
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March 4, 2019 4:29 pm

Your sleuthing prowess is exceeded only by your sharp analysis Travis. And thanks to both of those, we the readers can go with our gut hunch that the curtain’s coming down on the coal industry in general, and can therefore keep our cash in our Hip Nationals. Thanks again for your keen sleuthing!

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vivian
March 4, 2019 10:00 pm

“With coalmines based in Ohio and Wyoming, this company produced $7.4 million tons of coal last year.” that doesn’t make sense. you either mine tons or you make money. the two are different. Christian de Haemer is Belgian and he knows this. the copywriter probably knows nothing. there are various kinds of coal: brown coal, metallurgical coal, and black coal and I bet the author doesn’t know the difference here either.

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Paul
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Paul
March 4, 2019 10:53 pm

I’m going right out and sell all my cloud software stocks and REITs and semiconductor stocks and renewable energy stocks, and buy – coal! Because – it’s the real thing! Because – Trump loves it! Because – a newsletter said to!

What was I thinking, anyway, investing in renewable energy? What a fool! You can’t touch the sun, but you can hold coal in your hand! Why, it’s the Real Earth Solution®! What more do I need to know than that?

But I’m not gonna buy coal compaies; I’m buying the black stuff and keeping it in my basement until the Chinese come begging for it and pay through the nose to heat their pagodas.

I already have a bundle of buggy whips tucked away in a safe, humidity controlled place to cash in when people realize the big mistake they made, and horses come back.

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todd_atwood
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todd_atwood
March 5, 2019 12:22 pm

If hellbent on coal, might take a look at ARLP. Positive direction on revenue & profits, albeit only last 18 months. Significant, growing export/China business. 11 % yield w/ 150% plus coverage. Reasonable valuation – forward PE of 6.
….albeit coal (and K-1’s).

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Bob H.
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Bob H.
March 5, 2019 2:26 pm

Could I add some honest info on this subject…..Please.
Trump does NOT love coal…..Trump loves the JOBS it provides!!
Obama pushed solar and wind as long as manufacture jobs were in China.
The absolute best lab environment got a solar cell to be only 18% efficient. Most commercial solar panels are 12% efficient at best. Wind generators don’t run when too little or too much wind and suck thousands of kilowatts to keep the lubricants and blades from freezing & icing. (a super power storing battery would be the key) A coal fired power plant can operate 48 to 52% efficient and be clean, exceeding EPA regulations burning Lignite cheap 6,000BTU/ton coal. I worked for 33 years at one, retired 2010, plant still running.
China burns billions of tons of coal every year because the Paris Agreement allows them to pollute like crazy for the next 20-years. So where are the environment pit-bulls?? China imports a lot of coal from Australia. Shipping from the US would be much more costly. No mention of W.V. and Penn coal in the article. That coal is high quality, high BTU 12,000/ton that is used in steel making furnaces. China would love that stuff. Americans need to turn off the Brainwashing Fake news and go to the Library and get educated.

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money tree
money tree
March 6, 2019 7:37 pm
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Ii usually keep quiet, but since you mention getting educated, your comment has some incorrect facts. Many solar panels in production today are 20% efficient and better, they are phasing out the less efficient ones. Just Study SunPower and FSLR (first solar) for example. And look at what start-up company Rayton Solar can do with better than 24% efficiency. For laboratory results , technology is pushing 30%.
The issue of getting China to quit burning coal is complex, and I think the “environment pit bulls” know this. Perhaps they are fighting the fights they can win. China’s energy needs are growing exponentially, so it is a difficult situation. They themselves want to clean up their coal burning because in many cities they can hardly breathe.
I think if you want to compare energy consumption of windmills operation, it would only be fair to do so for coal burning power plants. Their infrastructure can be immense. Here in North Carolina, taxpayers get left with the clean-up bill time and time again, since corrupt government didn’t make the company responsible for spilling coal ash into the rivers clan it up. Same old story.
It is indisputable that we can burn natural gas cheaper and cleaner than coal, and that is why many power plants are switching over. $$$. This is great news for all of us, (assuming fracking is done responsibly.) The practice of mountain top removal for coal has been a true tragedy. Fortunately some charities are trying to clean-up some of those areas and re-establish vegetation. Shouldn’t this be also compared to lubricating and de-icing windmills? You are right though: super power storing battery is the key! without that, renewables are just not effective. And good news! They have already invented quite a few, many of them already being put into place for utility companies- in England, Australia, and here in the US.They are already preventing blackouts and saving the companies tons fo money for peak consumption times when price per kilowatt goes sky-high.
For a really good discussion on some of the truly major hurdles facing a departure from fossil fuels, and other good energy see “TED talks”: I especially like this one:
https://www.ted.com/talks/david_mackay_a_reality_check_on_renewables
but there are so many if you just search “fossil fuels” on ted.com.
(…Also, if we are going to keep it honest about what Trump loves…it’s… himself.
-not fake news)

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Ray
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Ray
May 6, 2019 3:56 pm
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I personally will never stop usaing the internal combustiopn engines or any fosil fuels. The garbage being spewed about man made global warming now common refered to as climate change is a load of shi!t. Tons of crap being forced on the dumbed down youg’ins of today. Liberal democrats and liber socialist commie scientist have one idea for the world. That idea isd one world control, theylove power, they love controlling the massses. CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL, HOWEVER IT IS NOT MAN MADE, the climate simply changes periodically. I can remembert when it was predicted an ice age was on the way, now its ythe Ozone later is cauding greenhouse affects on the earth. These scientist work on theory, and my theory is as good as theirs.

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Stephen Walker
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Stephen Walker
March 6, 2019 1:23 pm

I would feel better that Ford will bring back the Edsel than coal making a major comeback. Just sayin.

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Robert Munoz
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Robert Munoz
March 9, 2019 2:13 pm
Reply to  Stephen Walker

Interestingly enough coal did in fact move when the Trump / China tariff news was announced. I caught something on the news last week just after I read this the first time and I believe they said that coal moved up nearly 5% at that time. Coal may have adjusted back I do not know because I don’t follow or trade coal but it seems the prediction was correct to some extent. It’s just that 5% isn’t a very big move I know

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M. G.
M. G.
March 12, 2019 8:20 pm
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We visited China for 3 weeks over a year ago, starting in Beijing, and traveling west along the Silk Road. We were in Beijing during the once every 4 year communist party conference. The premier had announced that about five thousand polluting small manufacturers in the region were closed/closing. The air was so bad that the buildings in the metro area were barely visible through the smog. My previous visit to Beijing, it was impossible to even see skyscrapers poking up through the polluted air during our approach to the airport. Even though this was in October, 2017, and the really cold weather had not yet materialized, smog over the countryside, in agricultural regions over 1500 miles away, was almost as bad. Two in four children on earth have respiratory problems. Climate change is real. It is NOT imagined… Fossil fuels are a significant contributor. Clean energy alternatives are available…

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Eddie
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July 20, 2019 11:45 am
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We need trade. What does China need? COAL

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lga112660
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lga112660
April 5, 2019 2:26 pm

The advisor is simply giving ordinary Americans the opportunity to supplement their current lifestyle. Instead of skepticism, one should do their Due Diligence and take a chance on Investment ranging from $4 to $30. Skip Starbucks for a week and Invest in your financial Peace of Mind.

Earl Gillis
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Earl Gillis
April 17, 2019 12:44 pm

I’m new to investing in “coal contracts.” Is a coal contract the same as a share in a col company or a say a bundle of shares–say for instance 100 shares–of a coal company?

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odaine
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odaine
May 2, 2019 12:32 am
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how do i get a coal contract or claim

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Joann
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Joann
June 11, 2019 6:56 pm
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I would like to know if you’re question was answered. I am very interested.

Eddie
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July 20, 2019 11:55 am
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Not exactly. I saw where if you wanted to make a percentage of coal. You have $300,000.00 invested. Your amount of the percentage amounts to $1000.00 a quarter. He didn’t say how much the contract was worth. Plus you can still lose. So having $20 in this there’s no profit. One was under bankruptcy but paying investors.

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richard Ott
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richard Ott
April 24, 2019 1:25 am

Isn’t the old adage something like ” if it sounds to good to be true….” Dehaemer almost hooked me, thanks to you and the internet I can now see clearly again! A long term bet on (chk) or (lng) makes a lot more sense in my view.

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Dale
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Dale
October 17, 2019 10:28 am

How do I participate in this?

Joe
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Joe
January 22, 2020 5:15 pm

The discussion is almost like little kids arguing about whose dad can beat up the other. Coal isn’t going away. It will be going through some time at the gym and therapy. And will be like that girl in high school that turned out to be like wow! Good luck ye impatient investors!

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