DeHaemer’s “Next FAANG” — What are “The 4 MVPs of the Tap & Go Revolution?”

What are the four "MVP" stocks teased in ads for Bull and Bust Report?

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, January 22, 2020

The “end of cash” story has been around for a long time, and it has fueled several waves of investment teaser ads over the past decade or so… which led me to wonder whether DeHaemer is pitching anything new or different in the ads for his Bull and Bust Report (currently $99/yr).

So let’s dig in and check it out, shall we? The big picture notion that “cash is dying” is not a shock or surprise, of course, we’ve all noticed that we use less cash and see card terminals in more places, but here’s a little taste of the ad to get you started:

“Don’t be surprised to find that in less than five years, money as you know it will be a thing of the past.

“Millions of Americans like you and me will be carrying just one thing: their mobile phones.

“And you know the four MVPs I mentioned earlier?

“They are the SAME companies set to dominate this massive $100 trillion industry — at home and abroad.

“Think of this as your one and only chance to get positioned in the ‘Next FAANG…’

“Before the stocks go absolutely ballistic.

“Like grabbing a slice of Apple before it shot up by 1,600%…

“Amazon before it skyrocketed by 3,100%…

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“Or Netflix before it zoomed up by 5,700%.

“Here’s a surprise, though…

“You won’t find a single one of the ‘Usual Suspects’ on my exclusive list of top buys today.”

So how is it that these companies are making money on the “death of cash?” More from DeHaemer:

“Behind the scenes, my four MVP companies had designed an ingenious system to siphon off profits from practically every digital transaction made around the world.

“The ‘New FAANG’ companies are busy cornering a $100 TRILLION market for themselves.

“Even if they were to mop up a tiny one-quarter of 1% of this gargantuan amount…

“Which is very possible…

“That’s $250 billion straight into their pockets.”

That’s essentially what every payment network and payment processing company does — they charge fees that amount to a fraction of a percent of the transaction. No surprise there.

And we’re told that these “MVPs” are going to shoot higher soon, because they’ve identified a “catalyst” that will spark the stocks….

“SPECIAL ALERT: The New MVPs are about to get another unexpected boost by February 29, 2020.

“That’s when I expect Facebook’s much-hyped Libra project to be dead in the water. …

“Libra’s days are numbered. I expect it to go down in flames no later than February 29, 2020.

“Once it does, that will add even more fuel to the prices of our “New FAANG” stocks. Why? Because there will be one less competitor to split up to $100 trillion in revenue with!”

I can’t say that I ever took Libra very seriously, frankly, but it is still not quite dead yet — they have been losing partners, presumably both because this facebook blockchain money transfer project has been a lightning rod for regulatory criticism and because it hasn’t really moved forward beyond the “concept” stage. I don’t think there was ever a huge risk that Facebook would earn a big portion of the digital payments business, but it is still possible (payment systems and networks have evolved differently in different markets, and the “FAANGs of China”, particularly Tencent and Alibaba, dominate digital payments in that country).

And this is basically a “marketing overpromise:”

“To everyone’s surprise, the old FAANGs have handed control of the lucrative payments opportunity to a new supergroup called the MVPs.

“I expect their share prices to go ballistic on or around February 29…
When Facebook’s Libra venture goes belly-up.”

Thankfully for the lawyers, “ballistic” does not have a precise definition, and “on or around” could also mean, well, anyyhing. There’s a reason why ads lack precision on these points, even when they try to give you the idea that they know exactly what the future will hold… and that it holds imminent wealth.

So what are these “MVPs” teased in the Bull and Bust Report ad? Well, they aren’t the “usual suspects” in that they aren’t FAANG companies… but they are certainly the “usual suspects” for anyone who’s been involved in or researching the digital payments space over the past five years.

Which means you’ll probably be a little disappointed to hear the Thinkolator’s results: DeHaemer’s MVPs are, in the order of the acronym, Mastercard (MA), Visa (V), Paypal (PYPL) and Square (SQ).

Not a tiny upstart or unknown company in the bunch, right? Also, sadly, not a company that I own (though I’ve owned a couple of them in the past), because they’ve all been extraordinary performers.

They aren’t small companies anymore, nor are they cheap by any rational assessment (though truly, not many companies that have any kind of growth are cheap right now) — Mastercard is now a $328 billion company, still the little brother to Visa’s $463 billion, and even upstart PayPal is at $136 billion as they get close to the five-year anniversary of their split with eBay. Only Square could really even be called a “midcap,” with a market cap of about $30 billion.

But yes, they are dominant — or at least, the big guys are. The days of any kind of real opening to disrupt Mastercard and Visa appear to be long past now, the revolution of “tap and pay” and paying with your cell phones still works almost entirely because it connects to those legacy Mastercard and Visa payment networks that incorporate essentially every merchant and bank in the world.

Here’s what those four stocks have done in the 4+ years since Square went public (which wasn’t long after PayPal separated from eBay):

PYPL Chart

And in case you’re curious, that’s generally a little better than the performance we saw from the FAANG stocks over that same time period, on average…

PYPL Chart

MA and V are each roughly 1% of the S&P 500, which means they’re among the dozen or so largest companies in the world… so the only ones that are really substantially larger are, in fact, the FAANG stocks (OK, fine, and JP Morgan and Berkshire Hathaway and Microsoft and one or two others).

It’s hard to argue with at least the big three of this group — Square is in a more competitive situation and is less established, and that’s reflected in the volatility of the stock, but it is a strong emerging brand for retailers.

But it’s also hard to argue that Mastercard or Visa are particularly undervalued — they carry FAANG-like valuations and profit margins (50% profit margins, 13-15% revenue growth), and they could certainly keep chugging along, but they’re not surprise stocks that are likely to double on a piece of exciting news… they’re among the most widely-owned and widely-followed stocks in the world, and they trade at roughly 30-35X forward earnings.

These are all strong companies, for sure, but if I were picking just one I’d likely land on PayPal as being in somewhat of the “sweet spot” — they have a dominant position in online payments and a very trusted brand, right up there with Visa and Mastercard, and they’re also growing substantially faster (20%+ instead of 14%) and they trade at a very similar valuation to their larger partners and competitors.

That’s just my take, though, and these are all companies that you probably have some personal exposure to when you shop… and are certainly stocks you can research quite thoroughly on your own. I expect the trends driving them forward will remain quite robust, but it’s also true that at 30X forward earnings you’re already making the assumption that those trends will continue and that any disruption from outside events or new players (like blockchain) will either be minimal or will absorbed by the goliaths (it is, after all, awfully hard to sneak up on a $400 billion business and steal their bread and butter… Visa and Mastercard are not going to be “surprised” by any of the hundreds of blockchain-based payment system hopefuls).

What matters for your money, though, is what you think — do you believe that the “MVPs” will continue to have a run that reminds you of the huge investment success that the FAANGs have been over the past decade? Let us know with a comment below.

Disclosure: I own shares and/or call options on Berkshire Hathaway, Alphabet, Amazon, Facebook and Apple among the companies mentioned above. I will not trade in any covered name for at least three days, per Stock Gumshoe’s trading rules.


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Looking at the digital payments companies, any opinion on QIWI , a Cyprus based paperless money handler with operations in Russia, several Eastern block countries and UAE in the Arabian peninsula. Profitable with fairly high debt and 4% dividend covered by earnings? Potentially undervalued?

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Thanks doc, now you got me thinking of QIWI. I’m an expat in Russia, living in a town of about 20,000 peeps. I’ve more than heard of QIWI, I see their terminals (like bankomats/ ATMs) around town inside of stores. Seemingly as many as the two banks have here. Didn’t realize how many other countries they serve. I have a PayPal account that is next to useless here, don’t think their inroads will go far here, their customer service is terrible and perhaps nonexistent for Russian speakers. Hope I can find out some reliable info on QIWI.

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Thanks for your input, Scotte, I found info on them from a free site www. simplywall.st which has a 10 day free trial of their paid deluxe data or limited continued research free. They listed QIWI as 79% undervalued by their proprietary system. QIWI apparently paid too much for Rocketbank a while ago and are trying to unload it, hence higher debt than desired. I bought QIWI at about $18.50 per share a few months ago. Hoping for a double of course!

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Recently discovered simplywall.st myself. I like what I have seen so far.

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Join the discussion…I have used simplywallstreet myself, I can recommend them, well worth the time and expense (not very expensive)…

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A cut and paste… Qiwi plc, together with its subsidiaries, operates electronic online payment systems primarily in the Russia, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Belarus, Romania, the United Arab Emirates, and internationally. It operates through Payment Services, Consumer Financial Services, Small and Medium Enterprises, and Rocketbank segments. The company offers payment services across online, mobile, and physical channels through a network of approximately 110,000 kiosks and 34,000 terminals that run its proprietary software. It also provides Qiwi Wallet, which is an online and mobile payment processing, and money transfer system that allows customers to pay for the products and services of merchants, as… Read More »

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For me, you hit it on the nose. “Visa and Mastercard are not going to be “surprised…” And that’s what I fear most. You have quantified a value I had not thought of. Might be a good place to play safe and still earn a nice return. Thank YOU

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Yeah, bought PayPal just after it was separated from Ebay, I think at around $37. Also bought Global Payments (GPN), Euronet Worldwide (EEFT), and WorldPay (?) at the same time. WorldPay became either Fidelity National (FIS) or Fiserv (FISV), can’t remember which, through M & A activities,and the other I ended up with (oh, darn!) too via M&A, so I have them as well. Square (SQ) was purchased a few months ago around $60, so, happy with that so far. All you hear out there is the death of cash. Won’t happen, but more and more people are using cards… Read More »

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Heard from a friend returning from the far east, that many many merchants are requesting Alipay, over any other system. The idea is that the merchants, or service providers are not paying nearly as much in services and commissions . Something you could look into? Sounds like it may be a division of Alibaba

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I always enjoy reading your Sherlock Holmes analysis. I do however disagree with PayPal. They charge way to much for money transfers.

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Visa will use XRP (crypto currency) or so I heard, for money transfers/on demand liquidity… I’m hanging on to my XRP as many countries and hundreds of banks are integrating XRP as on demand liquidity protocol which speeds up transfer time from days to seconds between countries, banks and more at way cheaper cost for customers–mere pennies per transfer, of course depending on amt transferred. Anybody else have thoughts on xrp or other cryptos?