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Casey’s “5 Tiny ‘Pot’ Stocks Set to Soar in 2018 Pot Boom” teased in “Become a Marijuana Millionaire in 2018”

A re-check of the stocks originally pitched in Casey's "Marijuana Millionaire Summit" and now being promoted again -- including the "Amazon of Pot," "Home Depot of Pot" and "The Safest Bet in American Cannabis"

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, April 30, 2018

This article was originally published on January 11, but the Casey folks are promoting these same five stocks quite similarly with the bait of their “Become a Marijuana Millionaire in 2018” report, focusing on the impending Canadian legalization this summer, so we’re re-posting our January article here to answer some reader questions. The five stocks discussed last time around still seem to be identical (though they’ve added another one, which I haven’t looked at)… and if you’re worried that you’ve missed out, well, rest assured that the five stocks have not done well since they were teased as millionaire-makers in that “Marijuana Summit” presentation in January, I’ll include a chart on their performance-to-date at the end of this article.

But other than that, what follows has not been updated or revised since January… enjoy!

–From 1/11/18–

Can you still “make a fortune on the marijuana boom of 2018?” The Casey folks are out with a pitch about the new wave of recreational pot sales, spurred by California’s legalization and Canada’s impending legalization.

Justin Spittler and Nick Giambruno are the analysts Casey had on the presentation, and their goal is to “get in early” and “become the next marijuana millionaire” during this marijuana investing mania. The offer they’re making is a two-year subscription to Crisis Investing, for which they’ve teased some marijuana stocks in the past, only this time around they’re selling it at $1,795 for two years with no refunds (and, presumably, no refunds for those renewals that come through at $1,795 a year after that).

The hook is that there’s a guarantee that you’ll have “the chance to make 500% gains” on each of the five stocks they’re teasing in this presentation… which is obviously irrational based on the actual financials of most pot stocks in the near future, so they must be either using a far-in-the-distance deadline for those 500% gains or betting that there will be another wild spike in the pot stocks. Which there has again been, to some degree, over the past couple months, largely thanks to the Canada and California anticipation.

Oh, and that “guarantee” about all five of them reaching 500% returns? That’s not a “refund” guarantee, it’s a “we’ll give you another year for free” guarantee — which, of course, costs them nothing and is a pretty standard kind of guarantee for these higher-dollar newsletters or late. (“If you’re disappointed enough in this service to call and complain, we’ll give you more of this thing that you didn’t like, free!”)

So, anyway, what stocks did they tease in their “presentation” yesterday? Let’s feed the clues to the Thinkolator and see what we find… I’ve pulled what quotes I could from the presentation, but they didn’t provide a transcript and I almost poked my eyes out a few times having to listen to it all, so it’s possible that my wording is off a little bit on some of the quoted clues… consider those to be paraphrasing, please, not direct quotes.

The first one is teased as a Real Estate Investment Trust and the “safest bet” …

“The safest bet in marijuana… a dividend paying stock that gives you ownership of some of the most valuable real estate

This one must be a stock we’ve had on the watchlist for a while, Innovative Industrial Properties (IIPR). I put this on the watchlist because REITs that specialize can often be compelling — mostly because specialized REITs, who rent to tenants who are otherwise hard to serve or have facilities that are somehow difficult to replicate, can earn higher cap rates on their properties (that’s the term usually used for the cash earnings of a building or property — so a cookie cutter office building might have a cap rate of 5%, for example, indicating that cash earnings per year are about 5% of the purchase price, but a hospital might have a cap rate of 7% or a marijuana production facility might be at well over 10% (IIPR reported acquiring their earliest properties at a 13% cap rate, which is exceptional). That enables faster cash flow growth, and therefore faster dividend growth.

I still like the idea of this one, though it’s very early and they don’t have many properties yet — they haven’t been builders of properties, but have instead done “sale/leaseback” deals with a couple of growers to acquire properties as they begin to build the portfolio. They would get better scale if they could ramp up and buy a competitor like Kalyx Development, though I don’t know if that’s actually feasible (Kalyx is another marijuana landlord, they almost became a publicly traded REIT by merging with a SPAC last year but the deal fell through — so they’re private still).

Right now the valuation is a bit tough, since IIPR is trading at almost twice its book value — and that book value should be pretty fair, since it’s based on acquisitions they’ve made over the past year or so. But certainly they’re a far safer bet than most of the actual marijuana growers, since they don’t have a particular bet placed on marijuana prices, or even on legalization progress (so far, their facilities are rented by medical marijuana growing companies… which are probably less likely to face regulatory challenges than recreational pot companies).

IIPR is still quite small, roughly $120 million in market cap. If this were a normal sector, I’d suggest waiting it out for better prices… partly because to grow they’ll need to buy more properties, and to buy more properties they’ll need to raise more money, which probably means issuing more stock, and that has a tendency to depress the share price on dilution fears (even though almost all REITs have to sell shares to grow, and a 3% cost of capital — that’s their current dividend — is not so bad if your cap rate is in the low teens, that gives a lot of room for high cash margins, which can also help to fund growth).

But since there’s also the possibility that IIPR could just get a super-loopy valuation on marijuana enthusiasm (instead of just the “awfully expensive” valuation it’s at today), it might make sense to nibble now and hope for better prices later. After watching this for a bit and looking it over again as I was writing it up for you today, that’s what I decided to do today — I missed out on the chance to buy at the weakest part of the stock price fall after Attorney General Jeff Sessions put a scare into marijuana investors last week (it went from $36 to $26 in the space of about a day, but bounced back to the low $30s pretty quickly), but I’ll go ahead and enter a small position now and watch for other opportunities. I’ll be writing in more detail about that for the Irregulars later as I update my Real Money Portfolio.

This stock could easily fall 50%, which is unusually risky for a REIT, but pretty safe for a marijuana-related stock — that’s a lot better than the downside risk of 90%+ that many operating marijuana stocks might face during manic times like this. The upside, of course, is also far less dramatic — the stock is not going to rise 500% anytime soon, though there’s a chance that they can grow nicely for years if they’re able to buy more high-return properties… particularly if they’re able to use the debt markets to lever up their balance sheet in acquiring new properties, which can really boost REIT returns and dividends if done strategically. The real goal here is rapid dividend growth, since REITS that post high dividend growth rates tend to really get investors excited.

There’s also at least one other property-and-facility stock that gets some attention in the marijuana space, Americann (ACAN) — ACAN has talked about converting to REIT status, and they say they offer “a comprehensive, turnkey package of services that includes consulting, design, construction and financing to approved and licensed marijuana operators throughout the United States,” but there’s not actually any rental revenue or dividend payment to show for it yet, and I don’t believe they’ve done their REIT conversion (I could be wrong, but all the REIT chatter I saw from them talked up converting “someday,” and that was in 2016). They also indicate that they invest in other cannabis-related companies, but as of the last filing their balance sheet doesn’t indicate that they own anything of particular value just yet… perhaps that has changed since September, or they have “hidden assets” somewhere, but often the story gets well ahead of the business development with these kinds of stocks.

Another one?

“Half of the marijuana patients in Canada as its customers… last year they started working on their recreational marijuana e-commerce site… an investment in this company is just like investing in Amazon when it was $20 a share.”

That’s almost certainly Canopy Growth (WEED in Toronto, TWMJF OTC in the US), the Canadian industry leader and probably the closest thing we have to a marijuana “blue chip” stock these days…. though it gets so much attention for this market-leading position that it’s again trading at a fully ludicrous valuation of well over 100X trailing sales, as investors anticipate a huge change with the recreational marijuana legalization in Canada that’s expected to go “live” this Summer (there are some other big players in Canada, too, like Aurora Cannabis… and Aurora is even more nutty at ~180X sales).

Canopy has always been the “real” marijuana stock I’d be most comfortable with, given its potential to develop the first really powerful brand in the consumer marijuana space, and the solid scale it has as it tries to grow the market, but I’ve never been willing to pay the steep premium price the shares have traded at for years now, and it’s hard to take a stock seriously that trades at this kind of valuation.

That said, your opinion could certainly differ. I’m perhaps too much of a fuddy-duddy on these stocks — and I said much the same thing about Canopy back when Giambruno was first pitching it as the “Amazon of Weed” back in October, so my caution there has resulted in missing a gain of about 150% in the past few months.

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What else do they hint at? They pitch the “Home Depot of Pot” and a sort of “picks and shovels” supplier to the industry thusly…

“Sell the goods and services that every grower needs, they’re on their way to becoming the home depot of pot.”

That’s not a lot of clues, but we get a little more later in the presentation:

“This company is where Home Depot was back in 1981, when it was just going public with a few stores in Georgia.

“One stop shop for hydroponics, soils, pest control, ventilation fans, etc.

“Stores in four states, foothold in California. Proven model but small enough to grow off the charts.”

We’re also told that there’s little competition — products aren’t available at hardware stores or on Amazon, no major retailer competes. Sales have almost doubled every year since 2014. Top picks and shovels play in the green gold rush.

That’s not enough of a clue to be definitive, of course, but this is very likely the little retailer GrowGeneration (GRWG). They have a bunch of stores in Colorado selling hydroponic growing supplies, and have also begun to build a presence in California, Nevada and Washington State. You can see their investor presentation from November here, which details their expansion plans (most of the other legalization states) and their strategy to consolidate the hydroponics retail industry to become a major player and become a reliable supplier to the surging number of growers nationwide — but so far they have just 14 stores, so they’re quite tiny.

And, perhaps thanks largely to Casey’s attention, the stock jumped about 50% today. so that makes it a challenging one to buy, should you be interested, but I don’t know a lot else about them… they’re small, they’re not yet profitable, the goods they sell have pretty good gross margins so they ought to be able to achieve economies of scale at some point (though I don’t know when), and they do have impressive same store sales growth numbers — which you might expect, for a company that’s basically still a startup in a very fast-growing industry.

I like this a lot better than I like the growers, just because the valuation is not as nutty and it’s a much easier business to understand (for most growers, we still really have no idea what the pricing will be like for regulated recreational marijuana, or whether legalization will bring prices down enough to really do away with the black market), but I expect they’ll be raising money to do more acquisitions pretty soon — they only have about $2 million in cash as of the September report (assuming they haven’t raised any since, I haven’t checked), and hydroponics stores are not likely to be selling themselves at discount valuations right now.

If you like the general idea of supplying materials but don’t like such a small retailer, you might take a look, too, at Scott’s Miracle Gro (SMG), the fertilizer (and other stuff) maker and seller that most of us know from its Miracle Gro line… but which has also spent a fair amount of money building up a specialty indoor hydroponics product line over the past couple years, with the CEO expressly focusing on becoming a major supplier to the legal marijuana industry. This wasn’t hinted at in the ad, to be clear, it’s just a stock that comes to mind every now and again.

Hydroponics is still not the biggest part of SMG’s business, as you might guess, but it’s a larger portion of their business than I would have anticipated — they break out this hydroponics business under the Hawthorne name, and as of last quarter Hawthorne accounted for about 10% of revenues and is growing substantially faster (both organically and through acquisitions) than their core business, though the operating margins are currently lower than the rest of the business. But it is meaningful… with $35.5 million in operating profits last year on $287 million in sales… so even though it’s not as big a deal as sales of Miracle-Gro (the core business had $2.1 billion in sales), it’s still certainly meaningful.

The core business is also growing, so analysts expect roughly 10% earnings growth per year for the next few years — and at $110 a share, the stock is trading at about 25X next year’s earnings. So that’s a fairly steep price to pay for that level of growth, but if marijuana demand helps to drive earnings surprises perhaps they can do better than the analysts expect… and it’s not steep at all if you compare them to most companies that are more directly related to marijuana, which are, in the main, not even profitable, so it’s really just a matter of perception and what investors are looking for. Certainly we’ve seen plenty of financial sector stocks have minor interest in bitcoin or blockchain technologies and get a surprisingly rich valuation based on that almost immaterial connection to the hot bitcoin story, so far stranger things have happened.

What else?

The next one is cited on the order form as “the company supplying the product that every legal marijuana sale in the country requires” … what does that mean?

Well, in this case they’re talking about packaging. Which lends itself to a stock that has been pitched before, Kush Bottles (KSHB). I don’t know if that’s actually the match or not, but it’s a reasonable guess… and another stock that has roughly doubled over the past two weeks.

Here’s what else they say about it:

“One thing better than anyone else… packaging for marijuana. Every sale requires special containers, this company has quadrupled customer base and price is still near recent IPO price. This could shoot higher as California begins selling in quantity.”

Could be, I don’t know. They do have sales, and the stock is valued now at “only” 17X sales… and until a couple weeks ago it was still trading pretty close to the IPO price (it went public at a little over $2 a share two years ago).

My concern would be the sustainability of any advantage or pricing power they might have in the marijuana packaging business, since they certainly aren’t the only company selling packaging that’s approved for marijuana, and growing industries bring in growing competition from suppliers.

Kush was pitched by Ray Blanco about a year ago near $3 a share, and I was fairly skeptical of it back then, too — the stock was pretty quiet for most of 2017, but took off just recently and is now above $5… though it also did turn profitable, which cheered investors some (for the August quarter, they had their best numbers yet — $8.6 million in sales, $200,000 in profit).

That’s still a hard business to value at $300 million, but it is, at least, moving in the right direction — and who knows, if they turn out to have some kind of real “lock” on the market for some reason, either because of industry relationships or regulatory requirements, and competition doesn’t emerge (that could be a pretty big “if”), they might grow into that valuation if sales are as phenomenal as hoped for in California and elsewhere. Not my cup of tea, but perhaps it will appeal to you.

But wait, we’re not done! One more for you…

“This company is unlike anything ever seen in the marijuana business… they have the one thing that every single grower in the industry needs.

“90 cent penny pot stock seen having huge returns, like their inspiration in the mining industry.”

That “one thing every grower needs” must be either distribution or cash, I imagine… and the references to the mining industry give us the determinative clue that tells us, yes, we’re again seeing someone tease Cannabis Wheaton (CBW on the Venture Exchange in Canada, CBWTF OTC in the US).

Cannabis Wheaton is one where the story always appeals to me on the surface — their general strategy is “cannabis streaming”, sort of like the royalties and streaming deals that miners often use to fund development, and which were so lucrative for Wheaton Precious Metals (no relation, but their inspiration), Franco-Nevada and others. In this case, they help fund growers, get them distribution, and receive a share of production in return — but the financials have never made sense to me unless you assume that the price of marijuana is going to skyrocket and you’re convinced that Cannabis Wheaton will be able to easily raise nondilutive capital to fund all the “streaming” deals they’ve agreed to.

I wrote in more detail about this one over the Summer, when Giambruno was first pitching this stock for Casey’s Crisis Investing, so you can see my thoughts on it there… I’ve also commented on it in a few Friday Files as I keep getting tempted to look at the shares again, but the financials look worse each time I do so.

So, again, here’s one that I’ve missed as it has doubled — streaming companies are essentially financial firms, and valuing them at a massive premium to their book value seems to me to be a mistake.

There you have it, the answers for your top five Casey marijuana stocks, as best as the Thinkolator can figger ’em… and my largely conservative thoughts on those companies. I know a great many of you have been far more aggressive at investing in pot stocks, and have enjoyed massive returns (hopefully none of you have been stuck with the 90%+ losses that many of the juniors have had following those parabolic moves after the various legalization votes), so if you’d like to take the bullish side of that argument and share why you think any of these stocks (or other favorites you might have) are destined for greatness, well, feel free to opine with a comment below.

These are, in the main, real companies with real businesses, unlike some of the pot-themed or bitcoin-themed junk that gets promoted to the skies, so there are worse places to be if you like this general trend… they’re just not at “easy to buy valuations.” I might be wrong to be skeptical or conservative in this space, as I’ve been wrong many times before with past manias — only you can make that call for your portfolio.

Back to April 30 now… and as promised, here’s that chart to illustrate what those five stocks teased have done since they were, sez the Thinkolator, touted by the Casey folks in January:

So as you can see, the urgency of a “Must Buy Now” idea for making bazillions of dollars doesn’t always play out… even if the ad gets you so excited that you feel a little twitchy with your “buy” trigger. Take your time, think it over, if cannabis is going to become the world’s next huge industry there will be more than one opportunity to buy shares of the most appealing companies in the business.

We’ve kept the original discussion thread from the January article below, so you can see what other investors have been thinking in recent months… and if you’ve got anything to add, well, feel free to jump in and share. Thanks for reading!

Disclosure: Of the stocks mentioned above, I own shares of Innovative Industrial Properties, Amazon, and Franco-Nevada. I don’t own any of the other stocks mentioned in this article, and will not trade in any covered stocks for at least three days after publication, per Stock Gumshoe’s trading rules.

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triple-x
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triple-x
April 27, 2018 10:08 pm

Casey had another marijuana millionaire summit on the 26th. Of April 2018. Does anybody know or can guess which 6 pot stocks he is recommending this time?

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saint stephen
April 30, 2018 3:14 pm
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triple, Just read the previous posts on this thread and you should find them discussed in detail. I’m guessing prices will be flat until a political catalyst triggers a breakout. I’m just being patient until the dust settles. I own about 15 pot stocks.

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only6greens
April 30, 2018 4:23 pm
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its the same stocks same script reworked its no different and listening to both this one is made to look like a Q&A but it isn’t. I started investing in pot stocks in October was up some 100% but since Jan all the pot stocks including the casey ones are down its the cycle , Cronos has kept up because its has been listed on Nasdaq, But take a look at the Cronos and Weed reports easy links on seeking alpha but beware plenty of erroneous reports , but in my laymans view the results are great and they are developing a worldwide impact 500% no, but sustainable growth probably .

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john l pelosi
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john l pelosi
April 29, 2018 11:19 am

don’t fall for it just another way to rip $1900 out of your pocket. do your research

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cyberguy
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April 30, 2018 2:56 pm

What about the 5 stocks that Money Morning — nova X report is pushing. It sounds like KSHB ABD cbwth AND TWMJF — i THINK number 4 is IIPR any thoughts on number 5? What about his hot Canadian stocks?

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steveflick
April 30, 2018 4:42 pm
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I think Money Morning is Michael Robinson?, believe they are recently re-pushing what was put out last mid-November …..but maybe that was somebody else??
Investorplace.com put out 4-8-18 5 pot stocks GWPH, CRON, TWMJF, ACBFF, ZYNE. Also, Will Healy, InvestorPlace Contributor put out 4-11-18 5 Marijuana Stocks From a Budding Industry APHQF, CNTTF, TWMJF, HYYDF, MEDFF.
On 4-11-18 Reuters had a press release “Quebec signs weed supply agreements with six Canadian suppliers”, in anticipation of Canada starting dispensing recreational marijuana July 1st.
I just hope Canada and California does not produce too much marijuana. I lived in Colorado and voted yes in 2012. Moved to Washington state 2 years ago. Oregon last week prices went way down due to growers having bumpercrops / harvest / oversupply. As I replied to robertthebel few minutes ago, I am looking for US stocks of US marijuana growers and/or cannabidiol extractors.

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Belinda
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April 30, 2018 6:41 pm
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I live in Canada & on our national news the date for legalization has been pushed to late August or in the fall. Will not be July 1st.

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steveflick
May 1, 2018 1:03 am
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Thanks for the update Belinda.

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jbecket
April 30, 2018 3:28 pm

I invested in pot stocks back in November, doubled my money, then invested in Casy recommendations and lost 65%. And here they are again. I’m still at half of what I had.

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Blondellie
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April 30, 2018 5:36 pm
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Which stocks did you buy into in Nov?

Alejandro Garbuglia
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April 30, 2018 4:13 pm

Cronos Group

Alejandro Garbuglia
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April 30, 2018 4:14 pm

med read leef

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only6greens
April 30, 2018 4:47 pm

TGOD IPO Wednesday in the TSX keep an eye, Aurora own a stake so should impact a number of sticks this week up or down who knows !

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roberthebel
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April 30, 2018 4:58 pm
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Be careful with Tgod most that are dropping in the ipo route are way overpriced this close to the vote they should and need to be at there lows and as well as the other ipo they are owned 20 Pct by one company and 10 Pct here and there Aurora is funding them and has options to buy in at higher pcts of the company when ever they want to many money makers out there see what price it hits the market if it’s 4.00 plus unless you are a long term believer past legalization be sure to read the contracts on just how much of the company the company actually owns. Haven’t seen a ipo pot stock pay off the triple digit gains as the others do every single vote since the first up to this summers the last and that is a lot of years inbeteeen

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August 26, 2018 9:06 pm
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Robert, do you have an email I could contact you please?

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April 30, 2018 4:51 pm

Hope you don’t end up spending 10K in subscriptions before you make your first million with these guys. Since they really have no clue as to what might work, you get your choice of cryptos, junior gold stocks, pot stocks, Fedcoin, biotech, and a host of other off the wall hot sectors that you must get into within record time. You almost better off hitting the casino.

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Joe shangraw
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April 30, 2018 4:55 pm

Just recently started reading your articles clarifying the hype around all the stocks that are being pushed as Holy Grail stocks.
Suffice to say…a breath of fresh air. Keep up the great work.

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John
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April 30, 2018 6:20 pm

Investor place gave these out free Jeff Reeves..

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April 30, 2018 11:29 pm

What really makes me mad is these guys always say they are out to help the little guy. So I listened to 1 1/2 hours of these guys going on and on and on about stuff you can read from the company’s News Releases. Then it’s time to pay $1,000 to $4,000. Like who has that kind of money sitting in a bank account? Not “regular people”. Secondly, if you are buying Pot Stocks they are alomost all penny stocks with about a $2.50 average and some less than a penny. Why put out $1,200 for 5 stock information. Research and buy a whole bunch of stocks for $1,200. I have about 15 pot stocks. Total of about $1,800 invested. I don’t know tons on the subject but I bet I do a lot better buying on my own than wasting money on their 5 stocks.
RIDICULOUS.

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Daniel J
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Daniel J
May 1, 2018 7:43 am

Beware of anything “Casey” regarding Canada. I subscribed to one of Casey’s products for a time and based on the “facts” presented about the Canadian economy and government I am sure his analysts would have difficulty naming all 11 provinces. (That was a test!). In my opinion Casey is “pump & dump”. They tend to get into companies very early then provide analysis that benefits their investments. When enough suckers jump in, goosing share price, the dump happens. He also carries 50% training stop loss (ouch) and often is stopped out. Some guru. He is also often viewed in Canada schilling for totally unknown resource exploration companies. Would a true billionaire guru have to prostitute himself? Beware!

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George C.
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May 1, 2018 2:26 pm

Love this discussion and drilling through this “cloak and dagger” or “smoke and mirrors” hype — great job (as always), Travis. I watched the “summit” — painful! It seems that one company mentioned is “about to open a 1,000,000 sq. ft. growing facility. Perhaps, I missed something; but, which company is it?

steveflick
May 2, 2018 2:22 am
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George, the 1,000,000 sq. ft. growing facility is one of the 7 grower stocks I purchased – see my April 30, 2018 4:21 pm post in reply to Roberthebel April 12, 2018 7:55 pm post he replied to (added on) to his own post of March 26, 2018 1:34 am ……. just toggle up to that post; I can not remember which one of the 7 it was, but I read about it in researching each company symbol I bought (and more I didn’t buy) doing due diligence in early to mid April, 2018. As Roberthebel mentioned in one of his earlier posts in this discussion, some Canadian growers are building greenhouses on native sovereign land – akin to native Indian reservations in the US, perhaps that is where the 1M sq. ft. = 23.5 Acre greenhouse is being built. There will be larger grow Ghses in California.
Good luck on search.
I am looking for suggestions for US stocks of marijuana growers and/or cannabidiol extractors. …..guess time to do some searching ……any suggestions Roberthebel?, or anyone else?
Apologies late time, it is before midnight here on the west coast.

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shari
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May 2, 2018 9:27 am
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Hi Steve
I have a few US stocks for you to look into. Please note, I am no expert, notes are just off top of my head so don’t anyone crucify me if not spot on! Most of these are 1.50 and under so…get on it!!
MRMD: Marimed first mover on licenses and dispensaries in nearly all legal states and soon to be ones. DEFINETLY CHECK OUT
LHSIF: Liberty Health /licenses and grower mainly in Florida, Aphiria had a stake in but let go due to Canadian regulatory issues
TRTCD; TerraTech/ licenses and dispensaries in CA and NV, big grow facility underway in CA. Own some fancy brands and main thing is they have the corner on the NJ market with already operating grow facilities under Edible Greens organic lettuce and herbs (which they own). They seem set for big time, yet some skeletons in the closet. I bought in at .28 cents thinking on to a good thing, then they went and did a 15:1 Reverse split which was not a pretty picture for investors! Lots of mixed reviews on management etc, some still believe they have huge potential (I want to too!) Anyone out there have any comments on Terra Tech PLEASE as are still a great buy, if not too dodgy. Either way one to watch.

FFRMF: Future Farms/patented vertical farming technology and big into CEA (controlled ag environment)

POTN: Potnetwork (Robert mentioned POTN)

GLDFF: Golden Leaf / Oregon based for your OIL FIX

SNNVF: Sunniva/ Canadian company with foot in CA with big grow being built. Lots of hype, Robert had some comments. Canopy did a deal with them. Recently listed too HIGH. Worth checking out still. Some people think they hung the moon!?!

Others heard of but don’t know much about are AMMJ & CNAB

One soon to list after summer (I believe) is Med Man. Growers and Have a lot of high end dispensaries in upscale locations (Beverly Hills & 5th Ave NYC woo hoo) Cronos just did deal to open dispensaries in Canada. They want to be the Starbucks of dispensaries!! Very interesting, yet sure will open too high.

Any thoughts anyone on any of the above?? Would really love to hear. Hope this helps Steve and please feel free to return the favor with any noteworthy insight on financials (embarrassingly my weakness)☹ Happy researching!

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May 2, 2018 4:31 pm
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Forgot MPXEF – MPX Bioceuticial, Canadian company focused on US market. growers, dispensaries, medial JV with Israeli company, presence in Arizona, Mass, Nevada, Florida and soon NJ. For all women out there, they have a woman COO ex wall street, mother of 6! Are you familiar with New Cannabis Ventures website/app? Have a look will find company dashboards, interviews, rankings, news for Canadian and US companies and more. Lots of straight forward information.

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May 3, 2018 1:07 pm
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Thanks Shari, I will certainly check into New Cannabis Ventures website. We have 3 grown daughters, all professional and support womens rights, and 3 grandchildren – 2 granddaughters 12 & 1 1/2 (grandson 10). Always looking forward & hopeful to a better future, with Cannabis included.

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June 3, 2018 3:11 pm
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Shari, oops, my previous comment was meant for MPXEF. I did sign up for New Cannabis Ventures weekly newsletter from Alan Brochstein.

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May 2, 2018 4:43 pm
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https://www.newcannabisventures.com/cannabis-companies/ Covers a lot of US companies, some I mentioned not on there and not sure why.

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May 2, 2018 6:35 pm
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WOW!! Thanks Shari and DerbyDude. Others, be sure to read both Shari’s and DerbyDude’s entire post. I certainly will be busy the rest of this week doing researching and due diligence. Some of these companies I have read about in Cannabis Business Times, I will have to go back to some back issues. I too am weak on the financials, sorry. I am retired, career in Horticulture, selling to large acreage greenhouses and nurseries, but do not know any Marijuana growers personally.
Thanks again Shari!

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May 2, 2018 11:06 pm
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Hi Steve, my pleasure! Hope you find some you like. Let me know how you get on.

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May 2, 2018 9:31 am
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Steve, I think the best US stock which also is one of the best Canadian stocks is Sunniva. CSE: SNN, US: SNNVF. Sunniva is building the biggest growing facility in California along with oils processing. They are also building a significant facility in Canada. I am heavily invested in Sunniva. They are a real company and there is not a whole lot of stock available to the public which makes it even a better buy. For more information go to https://seekingalpha.com/article/4168443-sunniva-story-gets-better-better?app=1&isDirectRoadblock=false. Also look at Ted Ohashi’s other articles on Sunniva. Links are at the end of the article. The stock is an excellent buy at the current prices.

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May 2, 2018 6:41 pm
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Derbydude, same as above my reply post to Shari – thanks much for your US stock suggestion SNNVF and the seekingalpha link; I will certainly be researching them.
Thanks again Derbydude! for sharing.

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May 2, 2018 6:51 pm
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Steve, you are welcome. I find Ted Ohashi to be excellent. He also has an excellent free newsletter that mostly covers the Canadian market but cannot help but include some US activities like Sunniva. It includes technical analysis of stock averages and specific company activities. You can sign up for his newsletter by emailing him your name and country at LetsTokeBusiness@gmail.com. Tell him Derbydude sent you. 🙂

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May 3, 2018 1:20 pm
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Thanks Derbydude, I will be sure to sign up for Ted Ohashi newsletter. This morning I did purchase a little bit, $1.9k, of SNNVF. in research I like their large greenhouse building progress in Cathedral City (Palm Springs) & todays announcement of land purchase in Okanagan Falls (Vancouver BC) for Canada greenhouse campus. Probably won’t see increase in stock value until this fall/winter when first harvest comes out of CA, but looking to possibly free up a little more cash from portfolio to put into SNNVF.

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July 8, 2018 6:40 pm
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If your trying to get ahead of the hype gains coming up the week leading up to and the week/weeks following oct12 which is a indisputable pattern all the stocks bounce around the dates votes pass in Canada the only difference this time was Canada voted yes but delayed the sales till oct in the past just follow the charts all the 300-1200 Pct spiked happen on vote dates leading up to full legal even companies back in 2016 that hadn’t turned a profit hit unheard of highs. Learn from the Canadian legalization road the November primary’s will have the USA companies with much more customer base . A suggestion on USA road there has been no substitute for who ever got the earliest licensed canopy with a just 6 month advantage as a first licensed producer alphria and Aurora are still playing catch up. Canada is only lacking who will hold the largest recreational chain of stores there are a few but no one company is ahead by that much wheaton aphria canopy and the 12 others that have been voted in and where awarded specific providence ‘s contracts are the ones that will run the longest following the 12 of oct. the info available now is being limited because the big companies are legally allowed to fund instead of thebrokered deals giving out cash for millions of shares interest in the money causes all the big boys to drop and everyone who will survive sold begged and borrowed to play who can grow more for less and fighting and making deals for more than licensed and contract. In the USA even all the ceo and cfo ‘s have a bad track record terra tech has and still is to far infrint of the USA law passing map something that even all the free cash in the world can’t close the gap anytime soon. The sleeper is medmen not to be confused with medman which although they are owned by the same founders medmen who didn’t pop up as a 10 cent stock like medman they ipo’d there way in very quietly have the rights to open 20 more locations in la. Alone forgetting the rest of California who is becoming a mess by not honoring the laws but Boston mass and especially nyc 5th ave and 58th street a few blocks from Central Park just doesn’t happen without serious political ties they are currently open and have lines out the doors and unlike California where people are lining up waiting in line to actually by pot products in nyc all they can sell are t-shirts and vape and paraphernalia and First hand can say there is a hour wait to just get in the door at medmen which ny will be fast tracking along with Other east coast gold mine locations cronos who has been one of the steadiest gainer threwout invested to stay in the game taking a different route then Aurora’s buy everthing that isn’t nailed down to catch up to canopy. So strongly advice do your best to start buying in as close to the ipo price they will be the number one chain of pot stores in the USA and if weeded/ djacfand all the known and unknown companies that wheaton as they say streamed but do get 50 Pct of all profits of every company they financed from root to flower of every plant from oil to greenhouses to pick and shovel companies where part of the contacts stated to include privacy in who wheaton funded because it affected there stock prices inbeteeen votes especially the last companies before the gag orders were companies like abcan which has paid off there 3 year contract come August and although is the smallest of the large companies that are amping the global producers that also hold providence’s contacts meaning the stores located in the providences have to sell their products. Wheaton went all in when they became more than just a streaming company they now touch the plant and their dip under a buck reflects but the comments just like Aurora if watered down shares will not affect the stock like it was , “a real stock” would react so take advantage threw oct. make the big gains but if your playing the cannabis game and believe the weighting is on the wall in the USA for recreational legal and state to state transporting licencing leading to free passage medmen as a store chain and terra tec as a grower and a little bit of everything are the no brained plays just be cautious with buy in price in the short term leading up to oct. just like terra tec buy on the way down before the real money pours in and take advantage to be in ahead of vanguard and all the big investment companies which is what made the whole pot game one of a kind you never will again be able to buy in before the real money does because there hands finally got tied and although it’s been nerve racking about laws passing that pressure is lifted the tax revenue will force all the hands so buy in make your huge gains just don’t buy into any pot stocks by chasing them on the way up there will be no pot companies with stock values like Apple or google etc but Going Dom 1.00 to 20 bucks there is a lot of cash still to be made now that the USA is following the path . Hope that answered your question . Still wouldn’t go near snnvf opening over 12.00 advertising contacts for flower to canopy which when they can’t meat canopy will inherit a big Pct of the company that is so far behind and even under 5 bucks for a short time is way to high to early just like 90 Pct of the celebrity owned and backed the ipo’d in the game to many other companies with much more to offer and profit on around the entire USA can’t grow and get your products out of the state let alone the country maybe down the line under 3 bucks but will not survive the early Going watered down shares don’t be scared of that now all the big gains come off the hype around the dates there will be no steady 100 buck stocks and for the gw pharm new buy in people they aren’t a pot company they jumped in with a pot pharm item but the 125 dollar part of the stock is from the regular pharm items that ship has sailed but if buying a 130 dollar stock that will jump for a month to 175 will always come back down most have taken there 125 Pct gain and sold off in Jan 2018 to throw into the inmeds and the Cvs’s and Other micro prices stocks for the upcoming delayed because of Canada’s mistake in how long it takes to change laws around and set up taxes without the past skimming like early Las Vegas days luckily they signed up Shopify in most providences for the sales to pass threw and keep track of the seed to sale. Best of fortune to all involved as always

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May 2, 2018 7:44 pm

I bailed out of the webinaire after a repetitive, increasingly boring 40 minutes of charts and come on from Casey, and would never buy into that hype he’s peddling. I did start buying Pot Networks last year at 05 cents, then more at 12 cents. Got several hundred of Aurora Cannibis, a bunch of Cannibis Wheaton — had to pay 0.74 cents for that, plus InMed, a couple of others, and of course, Canopy Growth, all bought last year. Its been a wild ride — I was up $5K before Sessions made his remarks, then plunged down, now starting back up. I’m limiting the weed stocks to just $9K and am hanging onto the roller coaster.

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May 3, 2018 1:43 pm
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Hang on gthorne, some of the better companies should start showing in a year or so, after a few harvests coupled with Canada & California legalized recreational sales, and of course more US states legalize medical / cannabidiods useage. unfortunately some companies will be culled out, that’s the unknown & big risk in investing.

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May 3, 2018 4:52 am

I have been up all night reading all of these comments. You all are very informative! With the legalization coming sometime this summer (July or August?), which are the top 5 Pot Stocks and/or ETF’s to buy into now?

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May 3, 2018 1:35 pm
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Hey Jim, I can not answer that. A lot depends on your Risk appetite. As you read many on wild roller coaster the last year with this totally new industry. I have read elsewhere advice to invest no more than 15% of your portfolio (or whatever $$ you are willing to totally lose) and hope you stay even with most and like a gambler you hit one winner. I am sure it will take you many many hours of research to find ones you like.
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May 3, 2018 2:13 pm
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Update Aurora shut down at 1030 am possible talks of purchasing medRelief which would change the entire Canadian cannabis market in a very different direction . This was talked about over 5 years ago eventually only 2 major marijuana companies. Would hold off making some purchases to see if this is the case

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May 3, 2018 9:55 pm
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Yes, trading in both Aurora & Medreleaf suspended by IIROC in Canada this morning, upon rumors of such M&A. After both Aurora & Medreleaf issued statements of no merger or acquisition or agreement, IIROC re-opened exchange/trading. Today’s close ACBFF + 0.82% and MEDFF + 1.76%. Medreleaf later put out statement that they had talks with Aurora …… so who knows who is wanting to or will acquire who????, and what 2 to 5 major marijuana companies will be in next year. May 1st Aurora announced acquisition of CMED CanniMed, until then the largest medical marijuana distributor in Canada (I think they keep their brand label, just lose their stock listing). Aurora has major stakes in companies globally, as well as Medreleaf does and other marijuana companies. I am just a minor retail speculative investor, hoping to gain a bit; know the big money is with the big boys and girls.

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May 18, 2018 9:55 pm
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well, that did not take long – May 14 Aurora ACBFF announced it was acquiring MedReLeaf MEDFF ” ….. will pay about C$ 3.2 billion (US $2.5 billion) in stock …..” Targeting August for closing deal.

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May 6, 2018 4:28 pm

probably he best bet for price appreciation in the space:
https://www.equedia.com/the-green-organic-dutchman-tgod/

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May 6, 2018 7:37 pm
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May 2 Aurora Cannabis participated in Green Organic Dutchman IPO to tune of 17.5% = $23.1M. Thanks for the equedia link; very informative. Waiting for OTC ticker for TSX: TGOD

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May 12, 2018 1:23 pm

Any opinions on RTI.V ? Has a connection with Aurora

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May 19, 2018 7:10 pm
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If your referring to radiant technology I found staying away from any company that is partially owned effects the jump they get and effects the hype profits if you playing this to buy low and sell at peak during the vote. Especially this any stock that they guarantee for a year it won’t fall below a certain price only could happen with a Canadian pot stock that’s illegal if it was a USA based stock

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May 12, 2018 2:28 pm

Can anyone suggest a good trade company that does otc, stocks….. i have morgan stanley, etrade, and Robinhood all of which do not. thanks.

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May 27, 2018 12:18 am
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Tdameritrade

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May 27, 2018 2:01 am
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Hi Robert, hope you are good. Wondering what your take on the seemingly? slow start to rally of stocks leading up to June 7th, final week! You once commented to look at selling asap once stocks hit your target within 2 days after vote. Were you referring to June 7th vote or might be interesting to hold on until sales start later in summer. thanks for you insight on the sell by dates!!

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May 22, 2018 4:07 pm

Travis, if you don’t mind, I’m curious about your take on $CBW, the Canadian cannabis streaming company. If I understand correctly, your main concern is future sources of non-dilutive, low-cost capital. How does this situation differ from other successful streaming companies, (mining comes to mind and companies like WPM) with roughly similar challenges for capital? Additionally, compared to cannabis cultivators themselves, CBW has reduced risk by spreading production among many cultivators. They also add value via expertise to help plan and launch new cultivators and access markets. The principal of $CBW is the fellow who started Canopy Growth ($WEED) and is among the more experienced cannabis industry experts. That extra value-added is worth something beyond just the cash, no?

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May 30, 2018 11:05 am

$CBW. Thanks for the response, Travis. Much appreciated. I’ll devote further inspection and noodling as time permits.

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May 31, 2018 11:41 am

$CBW issued serious kilos of stock to fund production deals, with share count rocketing to 168.6 million @ Dec. 31, 2017, from 3 million @ Dec. 31, 2016. That’s serious dilution on one hand but cheap ongoing production on the other. Overhead appears sustainably low within the streaming model, which may be morphing with outright purchases of production capacity along with streaming deals. More of a hybrid company than pure streaming? Still many unknowns here (eventual market price for cannabis, principally) but these folks know the cannabis industry inside & out so I’ll stick with a smallish position and keep watching. Anyone see things I’m not or have a different take on the $CBW picture?

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May 31, 2018 2:30 pm

Optimism is not exactly in short supply with Canadian cannabis!
Among other humorous things I’ve heard/read: Canada wants to be to cannabis what France has been to wine. Color me skeptical of that one but there is certainly significant profit potential for artisan and exotic growers who can command premium pricing. Likewise for value-added medicinals. Not sure either can achieve significant enough volumes, however, at least in an investable time frame. Dried flower is the vast bulk of the coming cannabis economy but pricing will be set by Feds who can and will print growing licenses to achieve desired pricing outcomes based on politics, not economics. Fascinating experiment. Not so easy finding the sweet spot for investing in it.

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May 31, 2018 2:44 pm

Hi Travis….the #Cannabis Wheaton Income (CBW.V CBWTF) does not show up on the thread via email. Is it suppose too?
Perhaps Ticker at the top works better for us using the phone. Thanks

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June 11, 2018 10:22 am
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Hi Lulu,

they have changed name to Auxly Cannabis Group Inc. (XLY.V)

Regards

Mike

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June 11, 2018 2:47 pm
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Hi all, my previously CBW now XLY stocks with Schwab are being blocked and I’m not allowed to sell. Instead of ticker symbol, there are a series of numbers although the new name is recognized. Thought it might cross over today and become valid but hasn’t. Anyone have same situation or thoughts on this?? Much appreciated.

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Thanks Mike, I was searching for it again yesterday and even googled it but nada. Appreciate yr help.

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July 29, 2018 12:28 am
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They know more that the business inside and out the ceo was the original ceo of canopy the list of as they refer to it as entrepreneurs is more like the list of the most susessful ceos and cfo’s from Forbes top 10 companies over the last 20 years that wouldn’t be politically correct even for a rumor they invested in them . The only company that has more than enough to supply and fill any order without having to worry about if the have too much when the product surpasses demand last of the ground floor price of the biggest companies in Canada would be a shame not to buy and sell off at the end of the hype that might run from oct17th straight threw the November primaries when it becomes public how much Canadian money is truly invested in not just the world market but the USA alone easiest 300 Pct short term gain on the long list of the Canadian cannabis companies that have been doing these gains buying in 3 months before a vote and selling off in between the charts all look the same every spike is a vote that took place . That’s the way the game works . Stocks with buy and sell dates written on the back . The only 5 year chart stocks that make sence to ordinary solid stocks are companies like Cvsi they don’t give you the chance to buy inbetween votes but the 5 year chart will look like all the companies you wish you were invested over the last 5 years no big dips just too long of a hold in a uncertain business.
Wheaton’s last round of the bought deal financing is just about done and not buying not buying now when the mid oct prices is in the high 2-3 dollar range would be a shame.stay away from the sunnivas and tilray sand all the other ipo versions and buying now at the stress free if legal will be a yes or no is not a concern even the most cautious of people can sleep well . I will copy and paste how there streaming contracts are written they are in a win win situation all backed by the streaming companies mandated calaserial is put up for wheaton to even concider putting them in business let alone the only good or better ways of being repaid by 50-70 Pct of 3-5 First profitable years . If there was a chance the stock wouldn’t fly by 2.00 wouldn’t even recommend taking advantage this has been going on for almost a decade with the first licensed companies don’t just look at the high for say the last jan1 vote put the line around the peak if the stocked closed at 3.00 on the days around the peak the days high can be as high as twice that . Pot stocks are a different bird and yes Now the game changes when the big money comes in and out and you don’t know which way is up or down and with the crazy ipo priced stocks like sunniva who thanks to the uninformed And should be ashamed of themselves people from seeking alpha who always need to say their boots are on the ground and have met with the ceo of the first of the worst Sunniva coming ipo at 13.00 plus really misinformed hard working people with horrible information just like tilray who at least has been doing business private sector but a pot stock going public over 5 buck let alone 10 or 20 give wheaton Cvsi canopy Aurora and alphria a bad name they all started with upside down loans as a company but at a 10 cent stock price don’t cross pot stocks that give triple digits every vote or date of importance with corporate ipo issued start price they are not pot stocks and feel bad for all who were mislead.t of fortune to everyone.

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July 29, 2018 12:37 am
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As long as it’s not a ipo pot stock that started over 5 bucks with a unknown bottom don’t be overly concerned with watered down doesn’t take anything more than the whole pot hype to get wheaton to go from .70 to 3.00 as soon as oct 17 comes around now that for the first time in almost a decade the July 1st date came with a catch the catch being caused by the finality of 100 Pct legal and all the laws Canada didn’t realize came along with seed to sale and the tax money but just a bump in the road and a opportunity to buy mor for less. Wheaton is solid and are now two companies in one and the pot stocks that have the right angle in a crowed small market to start have all yet to pay less than 200 Pct vote after vote for the last 8 years no exception. Best to all

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July 29, 2018 9:12 am
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Hi Roberthebel
Thank you for sharing, you really seem on top of how this market works. Can you tell us what stocks you favor the most going heading to Oct?
Any thoughts on InMed, Future Farms or Abbitas?
Thanks again

jerome50
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July 30, 2018 1:59 pm
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Hi Robert can you also comment on TBP Tetra Bio Pharma., and LDS – Life Style Delivery Systems…
Thx

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As far as lsdyf they got a little bump in revenue about 200k from the canna strips which are flavored strips for breath and flavors a health food store type item problem being California is really cracking down on someone new every other day since no one followed threw on all the official laws on the Cbd side with products not being inspected first they put a big hold on the major edible products since California is the pot capital of the world in their eyes especially and ignored ever little simple rule that every other state is doing what’s asked and the older dispensaries with their home made products just won’t fly with the fda requirements just like food if there is a recall they have to track it down to the batch it came from and most of the old school shops weren’t even having their marijuana inspected let alone adhering to the nonstop changing of requirements for labeling which is going to wipe out there First really positive month by having them change the original white label products with the ca approved as of Jan 1 that only the big chain stores run by medmen and terra tech have complyed so I’m staying away from a lot of the Cvs items that they are punishing because of California’s small weed shops relying on staying in business now that they are required to have purchased by outside companies and not from the stash in the back of the garage which is now a form of the black market so it’s getting messy for the smaller novality items especially with repackaging costs .just to many other similar companies to slip in with cheaper versions right down to a small item like that with the price range where it is now still not where I would be comfortably buying not having that guaranteed minimum 200 Pct plus return as well as not really coming out with any new products keeping pace I would look elsewhere. But like every other similar Cvs company you need to follow daily to see what’s planned and will be offered prior to oct17th as well as the USA primaries which turned this into the first no hype run with July 1st not being honored and the long delay finally coming out with oct 17 which for the small companies that will fall back to their prior buy in prices back in oct 2017 for the Jan 1st vote which sucked not being able to sell off after the hype gains and buy back in oct for the now huge November primaries which is shaping up to be a huge occurance mixing them so close and not both happening on the same day let alone same month. So the game changed for the better if you have been involved and playing with house money for the first timers a lot got shaken up not knowing what to sell the moment the date wasn’t going to be by august31. Forcing a lot of people to either sit tire and not being able to take advantage of the extra 2-300 Pct by the time the smaller tier 2 and 3 companies bottom back to 2017 lows unless they were guided to have the much deserved fair and buy more at the new low using oct 2017 prices as buy Ins .
As far as tetra bio who has no money coming in because of the hype gains that Bailey started before they ever got going which a company like them relies on making the oils for trial meds And not having the funds has plummets them to their oct 17 prices and below already which is usually great having where they bounced back in Jan 18 but they were a first time no body company then really had nothing to offer then except the hype gain on their stock prices and being they have nothing concrete that has any special angle as of yet another company even more so that I would much rather throw at a similar priced bio tec with patents in hand as well as pending . There are a ffew really good ones shaping up for huge gains but you really have to keep up with canopy Aurora aphria and a few more that bought up or into with the option to buy into deeper that are holding patents and already have marketed packaged products so remember unless you have a really different angle of a company or the next hot product under your belt I would dig that deep in the pile of pot stocks bio Reck or whatever with the small money backed companies are working with. Take advantage of August keep up on your research don’t get sucked into the bogus earning of some of the small companies relied on to keep that stock price like say pot network who was cooking the books and really threw a wrench in only having the diamond Cvs line and trying to fake their way into a larger market the earnings will give them a bump don’t chase they will bottom in late mid August , refering to the small non ipo companies that by diet knowing to sell off and take your 25 Pct and buy back in instead of 28 cents like a future farm and now being able to get in under 19 cents like back when the gave a nice quick 400 Pct gain are setting themselves up with their price drops with the non or brokered deals that will raise the share count but with pot stocks that you aren’t keeping after the sell off it’s the regular stock traders that run from that which isn’t how this works.
At both of there current prices and the minor moves that most misinterpret as growth by buying a even smaller company it’s just there way of staying in business for most and a big red flag be careful with companies that only have a track record with just the 2018 hype gains and no growth just teaming up with other companies gasping for air. All of us with no new product lines and the costly branding and Pablo g and packaging costs your better off if your looking for a new company stay clear of the crazy hi ipo’s that are popping up like tilray which is a great company but not going public in its early stages were never a part of the pot game but the unfamiliar real normal stocks and their brokers paying attention to a company that you and me never got a chance to invest before the big money stay away . Sproutly is a new company that you will probably be able to buy in between mid to upper .30 low 40 cents that have legit patents and improvements to the water soulable angle and delivery method as well as possible new extraction methods are the type you should be looking at if your trying to find another one or two stocks to add as a hold threw the new year or sell off at peak of yes vote in the USA ballet box for 100 Pct medical in the USA which is most probable to give the huge gains surfacing the 2016 Canadian CT’s as well as 2017 vote this has become completly global a lot of the little maybe maybe not companies may not make it threw the summer especially when Your really digging down that small of a company. Even a huge faint shag/ dojo/ Hulu got scooped up by canopy the owners took the cas and ran leaving share holders to bail at take there 20 Pct instead of there 400-500 Pct gain if they would of stayed with web md. . Sorry but a no on both where they stand now and no money to even say maybe wait and see. Best of luck as always hope my typingsis not to horrible
Rob h

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August 2, 2018 7:52 pm
Reply to  roberthebel

Thank you Robert appreciate the insite!!
was a little hard to comprehend everything.. If I may ask now with delays in Canada and vote coming in the US what would be your top five under $1.00. I hold about 10 pot stocks bought all after the crash in Feb/Mar but they still have bled more and the delay hasnt helped, and underwater on most, so just trying to par my losses, get rid of a few at your suggestion and would like to add a few more.. Any info is much appreciated as you seem to have a good dial on the industry..Thx again for all your insite…

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roberthebel
roberthebel
August 2, 2018 9:09 pm
Reply to  jerome50

Unfortunatly pot stock don’t follow suit to ordinary stock as of yet except for companies like tilray that were private companies that ipo in and all the profits which there will not be starting at 20 bucks is insane . Pot stocks that all came about and most are still relying on bought deal finance which are crapping loans from a lot of times unknown sources and they give stocks away as part of the loan for free . Never ever as much as we have saw since basically Canada was down to the final votes of all votes full legal and for the first time in about 7 years the day they voted yes didn’t hold true and all the companies that give minimum 200pct and up every single vote begged borrowed and stole to make sure they would be able to meet the demands in Canada and globally and now that they moved the official date to oct 17th they are all at it again so there prices for the first time drop lower to the buy in price from back in oct- early November and with the USA putting pot on the ballot in November this will be even better that 2016 vote and even the first three votes where every stock was tripling even if they had no revenue . So I feel bad for the people that decided to finally join the game that maxed out there money they are willing to invest as short term as most are they never got the hype gains you would get if the vote went three and third doors were open for business and even the ones that bought in at the right time aren’t able to take advance of the gains that we are all expecting now with the world basically going legal one way or the other . These stocks you never ever chase and all though canopy will surpass 50 bucks a share it’s not worth just making 100 Pct they are the type of company most of us held waiting for this last vote in Canada . But on your case it was pre mature when feb 1 and feb 2 came it was like a rest button for some from the gains you got buying in oct for Jan 1 vote . . We did this when there was a lot of risk if the vote would ever be yes and putting in Justin t was to assure it would and then it became very easy to sleep at night knowing that if you bought into 20 stocks knowing you were going to sell off 17 of them and then playing with a lot more than just house money it became a life changer . Unfortunatly the Wall Street advisors that warned people since this started to stay away all of a sudden are pot stock experts and have given out some horrible advice . Understand the group of us that has been doing this for along time are able during this case to just but double or more when the stocks come down further to maximize the gains future farm is a great example we did around 400 Pct on them last vote and we ought back in around 26-30 cents a share and when it came down under 20 cents we couldn’t buy enough at that price knowing it’s a consecutive sell at 2.00 when the hype gains roll in come oct17 now with the november primary being on top of oct made this the best time to do 4 digest gains 2 out of every 6 stocks . The closer you get to a stock hitting its bottom takes a lot of reading and staying on top of everything about them so yes you bought in very early by pot vote standards added in with companies like Aurora who only trailed canopy by 6 months for First licenses playing catch up and buying everything in sight is why you can still grab them for 5-6 bucks . But they are the extreme to all the others and is a longer hold by far .we spend the time buying at what the low should be trailing the next date. None of us believe that a share of canopy will be the same as a share of micro soft at 100 bucks but there are some stocks like cvsi that if you pull up a 5 year chart will look like a 5 year chart for Microsoft a diagonal lone straight to the top and although we bought and held at .70 myself personally are the exception to the rule they never went between 2.00 and 8.00 during sell off . We avoid the stocks that have one or two days that it jumps and if you don’t take the 500 Pct and sell you end up with just 100 Pct or less and with what the top growers ,sellers and bio tec stock will be in a year is a mystery so except for a couple we are selling canopy all the way down to a future fam so the true bottom and the original price we figured to set to sell of at both changed . If you want to send me a text let me know what sticks you bought at what price and how many dollars you have to put into this would be happy to steer you in the right direction regardless if you bought in February you will still do incrediable for regular stock market gains all depends on which and who. But let me know where your at and no problem will give you the best advice from over 35 guys and gals that ran into each other and all shared what we could and got this down pretty well and would like to see all the regular people that always get the scraps that are left after the big money investment companies rape the stock before you can even buy it . We do not concider gw pharm a potstick and even all I own iipr those are different in every way possible than the stocks that still have the 3-4 digits pay offs. So if I can help shoot me a text

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jerome50
jerome50
August 3, 2018 1:51 am
Reply to  roberthebel

Hi Robert thank you for that gesture, I would like that very much, can you post your contact to text or I could just post here…Thx again…

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lskulow
lskulow
July 29, 2018 4:32 pm
Reply to  roberthebel

#ivitf
Hi Robert, I appreciate your comments and just wondered if you had an opinion on Invictus . Thanks in advance.

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