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What’s Casey’s “The New Ethereum?”

More Cryptocurrency Guessing as I Check out the teaser pitch for Marco Wutzer's new Disruptive Profits newsletter...

Also being pitched as "The ONE Coin to Rule Them All"

By Travis Johnson, Stock Gumshoe, September 27, 2018

We haven’t seen much in the way of brand-new cryptocurrency newsletters in the past few months… which is probably understandable, since so many of the hot ideas that the early opportunistic newsletters had us salivating over in December and January lost 90% or more of their value when the air suddenly floofed out of the crypto-token bubble.

So I was a little curious to see what the enthusiasts are touting now — there remain just about 2,000 different coins tracked by CoinMarketCap.com (I remember being bewildered when it went over 100 maybe a year ago), and there are quite a few biggish ones (as of this moment, you have to go down to number 17 on the list before you find one that has a smaller “market cap” than a billion dollars, and all the top 100 have nominal values of at least $50 million each.

Whether those numbers mean anything real or not in the end I can’t tell you, but it at least means that people are ascribing value to a lot of different altcoins — whether it’s because they like the technology, want to somehow buy a piece of “the future,” have particular insight into one coin over another, or just like trading and betting these semi-anonymous tokens that they don’t really know anything about, I don’t know. I suspect it’s mostly “maybe I’ll get lucky” speculation and momentum-chasing trading, since there’s always a market that appeals to that kind of behavior (many of those crypto-chasers moved on to the marijuana stocks, but not all of them), but it’s equally true that there are a lot of true believers in blockchain who think this is like renting out your garage to Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak. So who knows.

And Doug Casey, who has long adored speculation, particularly in mining stocks, is launching a new cryptocurrency/blockchain newsletter helmed by a guy named Marco Wutzer — it’s called Disruptive Profits ($1,595 up front, no refunds, autorenews after two years at $2,000/yr), and the real headline tease is that he’ll reveal the next bit winner in a special report called, “The New Ethereum: A Second Chance for 100X Gains.”

Here’s what Justin Spittler, who actually signs the ad letter, says about this:

“I can tell you with total conviction: This coin has the potential to replace Ethereum. And yet, it’s 1,000X smaller. I think you’ll agree it won’t stay that way for much longer….

“And while hundred and multi-hundred-bagger winners are rare, there’s no other place in the market with this kind of potential. In fact, I believe the next 100-bagger opportunity is one little-known coin insiders are loading up on right now.

“At last count, 32 VC’s have poured in more than $20 million. In just six months.”

There are even some creepy celebrity event photos with a younger Marco Wutzer standing next to Pink and Alec Baldwin, for some reason… and they establish his bona fides by saying that he was an early investor in eGold and other digital currencies in the pre-bitcoin era and made a fortune in crypto and traveled the world setting up cryptocurrency investments. I don’t know anything else about him.

And they’re positioning this newsletter as a “buy and hold” cryptocurrency newsletter — more like a venture capital model, less like a trading service because “traders get killed.”

The ad also cites some huge gainers in the crypto world…

“Like Stratis, which has risen 8,800% since January of last year.
“Spectrecoin, which has risen 2,150% since then.
“And Augur, which is up 1,269% over that same period.”

I suppose those numbers are probably accurate, if you pick the right day, but, of course, those projects barely existed in January 2017 and were priced at fractions of a penny — if you had bought anytime after anyone had heard of them or they became available on any exchanges, even as recently as May of 2017, you would have lost money if you held until today (though they all did go up 10X in value or so during the crypto bubble into December and January last winter before giving up all those gains).

And this new idea is marketed as “the next ethereum,” so first they have to explain that a little…

“Contrary to popular opinion…

“The single biggest force in advancing blockchain technology is NOT Bitcoin.

“Rather, it’s a digital currency called ‘Ethereum.’

“If Bitcoin is like email…

“Then Ethereum is like the Internet.”

And a bit more that…

“Ethereum is the greatest force in building out the blockchain.

“That’s why over 300 global businesses have joined a group called the Ethereum Enterprise Alliance….

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“Ethereum’s importance and size is actually vastly understated!

“All told, there are 496 different cryptocurrencies built on Ethereum’s technology.”

Which brings us, of course, to the tease about this “new ethereum” ….

“And the real future of this space, and big opportunity for you, is in what Marco calls
the ‘New Ethereum’…

“The original Ethereum has risen 41,000% since it launched back in 2015.

“The ‘New Ethereum’ can do just as well, if not better.”

One significant impediment to actually using cryptocurrencies in anything practical, we’re told, is transaction speed — both bitcoin and ethereum have had periods of time when transactions took half an hour to finish even when the network wasn’t buried in some sort of crisis, and hours or days at tough times… and it always takes substantially longer than credit card transactions, which is important for “transactional” type cryptocurrencies because credit cards are the gold standard of payment technology networks at the moment.

So lots of the new cryptocurrencies are designed to speed things up and make transactions much more efficient, without losing the potentially low-cost and high-security aspects that make blockchain appealing. So it won’t surprise you to hear that this “new ethereum” is being touted because of its speed….

“New Ethereum is on pace to be 5,000 faster than Ethereum!

“Ethereum can process 20 transactions per second…

“Paypal handles 193 per second…

“Visa can process 24,000…

“and Mastercard can handle 38,000….

“Now, look at the New Ethereum.

“It has the potential to process a whopping 100,000 transactions per second….

“It even has plans to reach 1 million transactions per second.

“That’s 41-times more capacity than VISA.”

OK, so we know that “potential” is not the same thing as reality… but still, that sounds pretty impressive.

The other clues indicate that this “token” has a “market cap” of something in the neighborhood of $25 million (1/2880th the size of Uber is the hint they drop, and Uber’s about $74 billion last I checked… and the “ethereum is 100X” larger puts it in this category, too, with ethereum’s “market cap” at about $23 billion now).

And we also get a “catalyst” that provides another clue:

“What’s facing us right now is a key deadline…

“While no official date has been set, ‘New Ethereum’—with its VISA crushing potential—is expected to have its ‘mainnet’ release.

“Up to this point, its core technology has only been in test phase.

“The ‘mainnet’ release means its technology is going LIVE—to the general public.”

Well, what is it? As I implied above, I’ll have to resort to guessing to some degree and can’t be 100% certain, but the Thinkolator sez our best match here is QuarkChain (QKC), which had its ICO this summer, is indeed a faster transaction network based on ethereum, and otherwise matches the limited clues fairly well.

You can see the ICO analysis of QuarkChain (QKC), from someone who undoubtedly understands the crypto marketplace better than I do, at Hacked.com here.

So how do those clues match? Well, about $20 million has been invested — $16 million in a private sale, $4 million in the ICO. Don’t know if that was by 32 VC firms or not, and that reference in the ad might have been to all of the cryptocurrencies he’s recommending as a group, but there are certainly a lot of VC/Hedge funds in the crypto space.

And it is poised for a mainnet release in the fourth quarter… which starts on October 1, though I have no idea whether it will actually take place on that first day of the quarter.

And the speed comparisons match — they say they’re getting about 2,000 transactions per second, with a design that they think can get them into the millions.

QuarkChain is essentially a new peer-to-peer transaction blockchain that solves the speed problem by hiving off transactions into a second layer and then re-confirming them with the original blockchain layer. At least, that’s how I understand it, so it’s probably far more complicated — they call this “sharding,” and there are other technologies who use this concept… I have no idea which one might be better, and a lot of the fairly large cryptocurrencies are also trying to tackle this same “transactional throughput scalability” issue with different designs and technologies.

Here’s how QuarkChain describes itself in their white paper:

“Recently, distributed ledger technologies — decentralized and trustless blockchains (e.g. Bitcoin, Ethereum), have started rewiring the nature of our current economy, communications and knowledge. As the global financial transaction volume in all electronic payments grows, the low capacity of the current blockchain-based networks cannot cover the world’s commerce anytime. However, a simple pursuit of scalability usually sacrifices decentralization and security. Therefore, the ultimate goal of blockchain is to extend the scalability as high as possible while keeping security and decentralization in an appropriate level.

“QuarkChain is an innovative permissionless blockchain architecture that aims to meet the global-wise commercial standard. It provides a secure, decentralized, and scalable blockchain solution to deliver 100,000 on-chain TPS.”

You can read the whole thing here, it’s relatively detailed and understandable compared to a lot of the cryptocurrency white papers I’ve seen. There’s even a “risk factors” section, which is good to see and probably important for prospective investors to read.

So… will this be the next big deal in cryptocurrencies? Will there, in fact, be another surge in crypto-token prices? I have no idea, I still consider all cryptocurrencies to be interesting technologies that don’t make a lot of economic sense as investments — they are driven by either “scarcity” that supports some value as an “asset,” in the case of bitcoin, or, in most others, as speculations on the future value of a peer-to-peer network technology where there’s no particular “earnings” to speculate on and no “ownership” of the network given to the token holders.

The only real way I can make sense of the value of a crypto token is by starting in the future and working backwards, because the only real “earnings” done in these networks are the tokens earned by miners for doing the calculations that verify and endorse transactions and therefore make transactions secure and possible. So to guess what a token is worth today, I would have to estimate what it would be worth to the miners who earn those tokens in the future as payment for enabling the network, and then walk that back to say that if those miners see value in the future for these tokens they earn, what is an identical token bought today worth?

Which is why I don’t buy them, because that’s super-speculative even for a very established cryptocurrency like ethereum, and for most others seems akin to buying a junior mining stock when the miner sort of knows where they’re going to dig, but doesn’t yet own the land and isn’t sure which metals they’re looking for or what they’ll be worth. The fact that it might work out doesn’t mean the probabilities can be assessed in any rational way… at least for me.

Your mileage may vary, of course, and perhaps you enjoy analyzing and comparing cryptocurrencies, or just like the action of trading them — there’s no shame in that, cryptocurrency trading is, I think, the most sincere expression of speculative psychology you can find in the financial world, so it’s probably a great arena in which to test technical trading strategies without any distraction from fundamentals like earnings or cash flow or quarterly reports (or even, in many cases, press releases).

We’re also teased that Marco likes a few other cryptocurrencies, and we don’t get hints on most of them… but one is probably fairly relevant to your analysis of QuarkChain… this is what he says:

“… another is addressing the same scalability issues as the New Ethereum—and is probably its biggest rival.

“(Marco definitely thinks the New Ethereum will emerge the winner… but just like you have Amex, Visa, and Mastercard… there’s room for more than one player here.)”

My guess on that one is Zilliqa (ZIL), another fairly recent ICO that is developing a high-throughput system that also uses sharding. Their white paper is a little harder to understand, but they do have a “position paper” that’s a little clearer for us non-experts. They aim to release their “mainnet” for use in December or January, but while QuarkChain is definitely a guess I’d have to categorize this as a “wild guess.”

So I’ll leave you there, with some guesses as to the tokens Marco Wutzer is recommending for that new Casey newsletter… and my personal misgivings about figuring out what a rational price for any of them could possibly be. If you want to dabble in these or other cryptocurrencies, you’ll probably have to get out of the happy little Coinbase sandbox and go to a larger exchange, and different exchanges support trading in different tokens and often have different pricing, particularly for some of the smaller and low-volume cryptocurrencies — one resource I’ve used to find out where tokens are traded (and at what price and volume) is CoinGecko, and you can find their Zilliqa page here and QuarkChain page here if you’re interested in that kind of info.

(If you want to dip your toe into crypto-world and reward your friendly neighborhood Gumshoe, by the way, you can check out Coinbase using my referral code and you and I will each get a little reward — I think it’s $10 worth of bitcoin right now… I’m not arguing that Coinbase is the best way to buy or hold bitcoin or the other big tokens, and I wouldn’t dissuade you from using some other exchange, service or wallet — Coinbase was just the service that I found easiest to handle and I trust their system with some of my money.)

I’m sure we have plenty of cryptocurrency traders out there in Gumshoeland, and I’m happy to learn — so if I’m missing something important here, or if you’ve got other ideas for this tease, or other favorite cryptocurrencies that you think will become important and valuable, well, by all means use our friendly little comment box below to share those thoughts with us. Thanks for reading!

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gcfboulder
gcfboulder
September 28, 2018 6:33 pm

what’s the lightning network???

macrobody
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macrobody
September 30, 2018 2:37 am
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A second layer solution to make bitcoin transactions fast and virtually free

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ALE
September 29, 2018 3:02 am

It is 100 percent quarkchain. The 7.4 billion uber rides is listed in the quarchain white paper. The other crypto that he talks about doing 40,000 transactions per second is RCHAIN. The competitor to quarkchain is Zilliqa.

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one2many
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September 29, 2018 9:48 am

Central Banks have been quoted as saying they are looking at cryptos. Firstly, they would not like to see a repetition of the South Sea Bubble. Secondly, they are interested in the blockchain.
Both multinational and local companies possess large bank balances, and these are largely uninsured by governments. The bankers will sell them CDs, also uninsured, to get a higher rate. But if a series of cryptos underwritten by US Treasury, ECB, Bank of England, etc were available to buy or sell at par value, these could be used to bypass the commercial banks, and would also effectively be insured too. They might also squeeze the banks out of part of the FX business, as deals could be struck at mid rate.
This is probably where we are heading in my view – however existing cryptos would become worthless PDQ after central banks enter this market – now that’s a great example of event risk.

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ijgardner_
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October 19, 2018 9:22 pm
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Why do you say “existing cryptos would become worthless once banks enter this market”? Do you believe the banks will create their own crypto with support of the Government, thus making all current crypto worthless simply because if banks are shut out, the Treasury Department would also be shut out?

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October 20, 2018 2:16 pm
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Banker coins or the FED coin have been rumored for more than a year now, who would want or buy it other than bankers? They already print money at will. What would stop them from manipulating any crypto at will? If is isn’t decentralized (not controlled by a certain party) i don’t want it. The existing swift system and credit card networks work well for them, end of story. If they create anything crypto, guaranteed by banks and completely controlled by banks or politicians it will be no different than what we currently have….also note Satoshi Nakamoto released his whitepaper and design in 2009, immediately following the financial collapse and bank bailout. There is no need for a government controlled crypto, it would only be a ruse or other way to control the monetary system by the creators of the existing problem.

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ed taylor
ed taylor
September 29, 2018 10:22 am

travis or anyone with knowledge of wyatt research. They are a big pusher of mj stocks and takeovers. Any history or info on them??

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Kelly Mitchell
September 29, 2018 10:25 am

I do analysis for ICO’s so I do a lot of research. This article has a pretty good explanation of why Quarkchain, ADA, ETH, ZIL, even Cosmo will not take huge leaps in value, but application coins will.

https://medium.com/newtown-partners/application-protocols-are-the-better-investment-heres-why-7a2efdde594e

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Bob Schubring
September 29, 2018 11:59 am

Another interesting one going live soon is UEX, described in lurid detail at http:\unify.earth for those curious. UEX has an adaptive mining algorithm that adjusts the mining speed to match market conditions.

wino1943
September 29, 2018 12:10 pm

I stopped going to these “presentations” and webinars months ago. You never get to the real meat of the info unless you buy their newsletter. I agree with John, long winded BS slingers wasting my time telling me about their few successful investments.

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Timothy L Singleton
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Timothy L Singleton
September 29, 2018 12:21 pm

I know blockchain is going to have a big impact on the future, but damn if I know how to play it. I made a little change last year when it ran up. Soon as it did, I yanked my money invest in out and am letting the rest ride.

I still think silver is a better bet as long as gold is trading at more than 25x the price of silver, though. ..and GOLD, of course. I just like it. It gives me a happy to handle it.

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September 29, 2018 6:41 pm

Great analysis, QKC was a frenzied ICO. Changed terms for ICO participants though so I’d be looking at those new release dates. They are already listed on Binance so it will be interesting to see where they can get new momentum from.

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September 30, 2018 9:33 pm

I did a little research and came up with rchain

BlockChainSleuth
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BlockChainSleuth
October 1, 2018 10:43 pm

I came across one that looks interesting and will implement a method other than lightning networks or sharding for increased transaction throughput. The website is Elixxir https://elixxir.io/technical-brief#section-architecture. and they have developed a new blockchain. If you like cryptocurrencies, this might be a future one to watch. ICODROPS seems to indicate that they have already received $1.8 million. I have been taking a course on blockchains (primarily Ethereum focused) and this one has some interesting features in the architecture. Apparently the chief architect is Dr. David Chaum former creator of Ecash.

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October 2, 2018 7:05 am

FEW OTHER GUESSES TERNIO.IO & SEELE

only6greens
October 3, 2018 4:09 am

you would think that if any of these were hitting the nail o the head then we would see good volume and % price increases but from a quick glance from the resources listed below I cant really see any pattern that says we have this nailed. Rchain has fallen off today I wouldn’t expect that if Casey was getting any people onboard, QKC relatively stable small increases and ZIL slightly off QKC. With-ought any deep calculations I guess we wouldn’t see any dramatic increases as I suppose the newsletter =may get 1-3 K sign ups
! http://cryptomarketsignal.com/popular/ http://thestockmarketwatch.com/crypto/best-cryptocurrency.aspx https://coinmarketcap.com/gainers-losers/ https://cryptomarkettoday.com/markets/top-cryptos.aspx

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October 3, 2018 6:38 pm

So what is Kent Moors 100,000% oil game in TX.

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Fumero
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October 17, 2018 11:23 pm

Well, I very much respect Travis’s analysis. Before reading it I was pretty much convinced it was COTI what they were teasing. The “clues” led me to that one, considering Wutzer mentioned an October 1st deadline for the ICO.

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ijgardner_
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ijgardner_
October 19, 2018 9:26 pm

Has anyone done research on Raida Technology? It uses minimal computing energy, it thousands of times faster in terms of transactions. Sean Worthington is the developer of this technology and I have liked him from the first time I heard him speak.

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January 18, 2019 1:09 am

What happened to this discussion? Did it gt moved to another page? The last comment I see is now 3 months old…… please advise!

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May 4, 2019 11:50 pm

The New Etherium is not 1 but 3 different cryptos. The rationale behind it is the fact that these are the new generation blockchains superior to Etherium. Without further ado here they are. QKC, RHOC & ZIL. Yes I invested in all 3. Recommend you do the same, but keep the investments small. If either all or single one makes it, the returns will be great. But if all three go south a small investment would cause no stress to you.
I have a full lifetime subscription to Disruptive Profits. The recommendations and education from the newsletter is top quality. Willing to share with 2 other people. If interested drop me a mail. tantorrino@yahoo.com

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aquarius59
November 21, 2021 3:36 am

I don’t know about “new etherium” but Mr. Teeka is on an Etherium sell, suggesting it will soar fast in the ensuing months, but some algorithms suggest it will drop a grand shortly. However in the past other algorithms suggested it would drop when it was around two grand per owing to Eth2, yet it shot up. So, who really knows? I had dumped a ton of change into MANA then saw it drop about 40% after the mid May debacle. I sold half off to stave losses, yet now it’s up over 300%. Same with Elrond. Dipped down to about 80 per, now it’s up over $300. Such a crapshoot on any of it.

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